Daily Topics - Tuesday January 26th 2010

tea party imagesQuote:  “We are trying to construct a more inclusive society. We are going to make a country in which no one is left out." Franklin D. Roosevelt

Hour One - Has Obama just become a Herebert Hoover Republican? Max Keiser www.maxkeiser.com

Plus...Dan Gainor www.businessandmedia.org - Recommendations from the 2010 Sundance Film Festival, Park City, Utah

Hour Two - Is cash for Geezers now getting some support in Congress?

Hour Three  - Will the real tea partiers please stand up?! John O'Hara www.JohnMOHara.com


Quark (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Rachel Confronts White House Economist

Last night Rachel Maddow told V.P. Joe Biden's economic advisor and member of the W.H. Middle Class Task Force Jared Bernstein that the last thing this country needs is stupid Hoover policies (referring to last night's W.H. announcement of a budget freeze.) This is a conversation worth watching. I wish more progressives would stand up against the idiocy and timidity in Washington! (Video):


Brad (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

PBS and Sarah Palin

PBS has an online poll posted asking if Sarah Palin is
qualified. Apparently the right wing knew about this
in advance and are flooding the voting with YES votes.

The poll will be reported on PBS and picked up by
mainstream media. It can influence undecided voters
in swing states.

Please do two things -- takes 20 seconds.

1) Click on link and vote yourself.

Here's the link:


2) Then send this to every single Obama-Biden voter
you know, and urge them to vote and pass it on.

The last thing we need is PBS saying their viewers
think Sarah Palin is qualified.

Quark (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago


Thanks so much for that. Will do!

Mark K (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Obama has announced that he is supporting “freezes” in discretionary programs that most effect people, but none for Homeland Security and the Defense budget. Robert Reich pointed out the fallacy of such a policy during a recession, that government had to be consumer and employer of last resort. Maybe what Obama really needs to do is support crackdowns on tax cheats and loopholes. I hear these commercials with tough-talking tax attorneys telling you that they will get between you and the IRS from taking “your” money; it sounds a lot better than the IRS going after their money that you didn’t pay like every other law-abiding citizen. One happy customer of one these firms, who sounded like Jethro, claimed that he had saved $150,000 in taxes. He probably hadn’t paid his taxes in 30 years.

Richard L. Adlof (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

The epitome of the two Santa Claus theory is President Obama giving money to his beloved Wall Street and cutting spending to appease the wealthy.

Mark K (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

It seems apparent that in the past year Obama did what he thought was the “common sense” move and went to the Democratic Congressional leadership and asked them what could be passed and what could not. Since the Democrats in Congress by-and-large had no plan prepared to create jobs or formulate health care reform themselves, this was the recipe for a long, protracted grind that only highlighted the U.S. Senate’s inability to make the Real Big Move. They’ve got too many people pulling them in too many directions, and the people with the most money have the most pull, and those people are generally the people who want the least to change the status quo. That idiotic cover of The Economist, showing “big government” eating a human, plays right into the hands of people who want the fear of change to prevail, because only government is capable of doing to what is needed.

I was listening to Mike Malloy’s show last night (who gave Thom a “kind-of” compliment by saying he “sort-of” supported democratic socialism), and he riffed on the insinuation by the lieutenant governor of South Carolina that children on free or reduced school lunch programs were “animals” who should be drug-tested before they received their lunch. Malloy noted that southern states rank in the “top” of virtually every category that measures poverty, hunger, functional illiteracy, lack of health care, and church attendance. Yet these are all solid Republican states. How can this be? It’s easy enough to understand; in 2004, Harold Ford, the Obama of Tennessee, seemed to be on his way to a historic election as the first black voted to the Senate from a southern state since Reconstruction. But his opponent, Bob Corker, trotted-out a last minute ad featuring Ford in the same room with an attractive blond, and this was sufficient to strike the mindless fear of “miscegenation” and of the lustful black Sambo violating the sanctity of white womanhood into racist white voters. Meanwhile, Dennis Kucinich either has attended a “teabagger” convention where people rationalize their own abhorrence for minorities and liberals (which he chose not to see, or like Thom sees what he wants to see. Again, it has to be pointed out again and again that these people had no problem with banksters and corporatists when the Republicans were running the show, or when everyone had jobs. They didn’t even seem to mind that they were not making any money, or had poor or no benefits.

And has Thom taken the time to wonder why the teabagger movement, which is in fact as small as it is loud, gets so much attention from the corporate-owned and right-wing media, while the left gets almost no attention? Is it because teabaggers actually serve the interests of the corporations? It’s not such a stretch; after all, teabaggers ARE anti-Obama and anti-liberal, representing those most likely (not that they necessarily will) not oppose the agenda of corporations, if only because they too have greedy, selfish little agendas. And does the fact that far fewer younger voters came out in 2010 necessarily equate to a “protest” vote? I think not. It was clear that many younger voters were excited to vote for Obama, because he represented something new, exciting—and young, like them, as opposed to Hillary and McCain. Coakley? She looked old and ossified, she didn’t excite them. Younger, healthier voters don’t care that much about health care reform. Obama should have gotten out there fast and early with a positive message, but again as I mentioned yesterday, the Democrats assumed too much and didn’t have anyone on the ground measuring the extent of disaffection, and taking steps to counter it.

I just purchased the book “Game Change,” and among other things I learned is that Obama was receiving contributions from “big-time” contributions from “Wall Street players” from the jump. The result, we may conjecture, is that he “owes” them. What exactly they felt he owed them is plain enough to see. The question we have to ask ourselves does Obama feel he has no choice but to deal with the (Wall Street) devil in order to have the “freedom” to pursue his other objectives?

Richard L. Adlof (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

President Obama and BECOME a Hoover Republican? Wrong verb tense and implies that he was ever anything else.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

I don't believe in Santa Claus, however, two drunken sailors I understand. Couldn't hurt the Democrats to call the Republicans what they are, drunk with power corporate shills.

Guess Obama has decided to knock a hole in the back of the boat to let the water out from the front :-(

DDay (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago


Sarah Palin will be in Minneapolis to join Michele Bachmann on April 7th. Ms. Bachmann's district has the county with the largest per capita number of working women, single women who work, and women with two jobs. (Anoka County). Neither of these women are friends to women's issues or working people. People should gather here and push back and shout down these two charlatans in high heels. Ed Shultz indicated that he will bring his TV show here to help push back. We need the help here! If you would like to join us and visit our fair region, let me know...I'll help find you a room or a couch. I'll buy you an adult beverage or two, too! United we stand.

P.S. April ain't too bad here either...usually. :-)
P.S.S Maybe we can lure Quark to come out and play with us!

Quark (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Mark K,

We have noted that one of Obama's biggest financial supporters was Goldman Sachs.

Quark (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago


Post the particulars when you get them. I'll alert all the progressives I know, too!

Nels (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Damn those speculators, I knew it was all there fault... I guess the greedy banksters were just victims after all. There self-centered greed and parasitic behavior is really just fine.

What a load of ......

Quark (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago


BTW, even though my husband and my wedding anniversary is in April, the last official "frost day" (for gardeners) is the last day of May. (I swore I wouldn't live in a "cold place" so, of course, here I am!) Like the old adage about Heaven and Hell, I'm here for the company!

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Before I share some information, I want to offer a suggestion. We do not have in our newspapers a labor page. Thom, each of your hours has four segments for a total of sixty segments for the week. Would it be possible to have one or two segments a week devoted to labor news and labor guests?

I wish now to share some information. At times Thom has some humor on his show to lighten our day. Aside from these humorous pieces, please listen carefully to what he says. For example on January 25, 2010 Thom mentioned two pieces of information, such as retirement plans and Ronald Reagan.

Retirement plans came on the scene to eventually eliminate social security programs. Right now our COLAs are frozen for two or three years. This freeze is a prelude to the eventual elimination of social security programs and the elimination of Medicare programs will follow. But, money will not be frozen for wars and mass murders of God’s children.

Thom mentioned that Reagan showed signs of dementia in his first term. Dementia does not come overnight. It is a process that takes ten, fifteen, and in some cases twenty years to actually surface. With dementia Reagan was not running the presidency or the American government. I believe that Nancy was upset with the people in the White House because they were poor advisors to him. We must remember that is the way for our shadow government.

My counsel to the people who listen to Thom on the radio is to pay close attention to what he is saying.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

You can blame a 4 year old all you want for cutting himself with a knife you left in his reach, but the responsibility lies with the parent.

Regulate, regulate, regulate. You can't expect a drug addict to leave the unsupervised unlocked medicine cabinet alone.

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

I have not been receiving Thom's newsletter for the past several days. I am wondering if he has stopped writing a newsletter? His newsletters can be time consuming. Maybe one newsletter per week would be sufficient?

Nels (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

@Gerald, well said, a couple of labor segments a week would be great. Hope Thom takes your suggestion to heart.

Blue Mark (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

A budget "freeze" is foolish while there is 10 percent unemployment (actual rate of 17% including discouraged and part timers who can't find full time work), pure 1937 logic. But I could support it IF it is really just a return to the PAYGO rules that gave us the Clinton surpluses and that Bush abandoned - Once unemployment is reduced.

Of course the best way to reduce the deficit now and for the foreseeable future is to switch to single payer health care.

Richard L. Adlof (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

@THOM: NO! What is going on is the President and the DLCers in the White House acting like the DINOs they are . . .

Nels (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

You give someone enough slack and more often than not they hang themselves. :-<

rewinn (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Mark K - I must demur to your characterization of "teabaggers". Certainly their leadership is stuck on anti-Obama but there are a whole lot of unemployed- or underemployed blue collar angry people. They are the natural allies of progressives but for two things:

1. The Teaparty thing gives them an explanation for their dire state that is simple and straightforward.
2. Liberals aren't reaching out to them enough.

Much as I enjoy teabag jokes (c'mon it*is* fun) it is time to move on and remake the FDR alliances. A good place to start is ending the Fed, decrimializing the reimport of prescription drugs, stopping the export of American jobs.

And then there's unlimited corporate money pouring into election - talk about the Fed or AIG pouring money into elections. I promise, THAT will get some agreement going.

I've had good luck and learned a few things talking with Shane at Operation Pitchfork: http://www.operationpitchfork.com/ now you go find a real (non-corporate) teaparty group and try to chat with them.

Or enjoy laughing at them, and lose. It's a choice.

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Nels, a segment or two on labor would give his show more balance. Thom has said that labor and jobs are the economy and not the Wall Street numbers.

Greg Palast does a great job as an investigative reporter.


I am listening to Thom's show and his guest has just said that the quality of politicians are poor. No one seems to want to govern.

Here is my two cents!!! Obama is a FAILED PRESIDENT. He is toast!!!

Nels (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

From the sounds of it, looks like we'll be getting a Republican Congress/Senate this year, and a new Republican President in '12.

How depressing that Obama went to Clinton for his history lessons instead of FDR.

Gawd, I hope were not getting some sort of Palin/Quail leadership.

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Obama should resign right now!!! His resignation would be great for America in the short term. As far as the long term America is in the process of her demise.

DDay (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

@ Quark

Re: Michele and Sarah

Will do...and thanks. These two are radioactive. When you bring two radioactive masses together they reach critical mass resulting in a explosive event. We need to teach them some physics. We should be able to put on a bigger event than the Tea Baggers. There are more of us. We just need to get off our asses and push away from the CRTs and gather. If we build it...the press will come.

rewinn (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

An executive order requiring that all uniforms worn by our military personnel be made in America using fabric made in America would create a lot of jobs, and not requiring getting past a GOP filibuster or armies of lobbyists.

If anyone sued over this, the lawsuit could be dragged out for years.

So why not try it?

Nels (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

@ Gerald, is Obama really a failed President, or are the Democrats a failed party. It seems that they have gone down the path of status quo, and that's a conservative direction.

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Nels, our two older sons voted for McCain. They voted for him because the Republicans got us into this mess and let's see how they get us out of this mess.

Obama is unraveling as president because he is not a leader because he is not a leader and he is too inexperienced. Obama makes me throw up.

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

I wrote the DNC back in April and I said that Obama is a failed president. I have known for at least ten months that Obama is useless.

Quark (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago


Not only is Obama no leader, he doesn't seem to have a "core". He doesn't seem to really CARE about anything. (Maybe he is taking a lobotmizing antidepressant.)

Paul Wellstone could get excited and get a crowd excited, too. Are ALL the Paul Wellstones dead?

Quark (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

s.b. "lobotomizing"

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Nels, good thought! The Democrats are a failed party. I am not a fan of the late Robert Novak but he had it right by saying the Democrats are the stupid party. They cannot break the cycle of their stupidity.

geph (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Thom just used the term ConservaDems. Having personally preferred DINOcons for years, perhaps a new term is needed to express both what they are and what we should do to the false Dems and the Fraidycrats who enable the Cons:


Cornhusker (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

In light of the recent SCOTUS decision...

Create an independent campaign watchdog organization whose sole purpose is to evaluate the facts presented in ANY campaign material pushed to the American public... be it by TV, radio, internet, mailbox etc. Source citations would be required.

If the content is found to be factual, a copyrighted seal would be issued - regardless of the opinions expressed in the ad. Visual and audio versions of the seal would be needed. The material would be posted on their web site as a function of locality and topic.

If the copyright is misused, those responsible for the ad (original requestor and any group down chain) would be subject to a fine of 10% of their net worth). The fine would go to a public campaign financing fund.

The evaluation would have to be objective and timely.

A media blitz would educate voters to look for the seal or to distrust the content of the material being pushed at them.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

@Gerald, I understand your disgust. However, who would they put in his place (and I do mean they, because we have little if any decision in it). It matters little who is allowed to lead because the position seems to be titular to me. Personally I'm hoping that this trial of fire will toughen Obama up and he'll snap out of it. But from all I know of his life he's an overachiever, a straight A kind of student, you don't get straight A's by rocking the boat.

Yeah, I'd like to see Howard Dean as President, but our choices will always be restricted to a centrist Democrat or a Right to the Right Side Republican, so long as the people get spoon fed CNN, Fox, MSNBC .... well all the Corporate channels, with precious few if any independent channels (Free Speech TV). I think if Obama were to bail now, it would absolutely kill the progressive movement because it would be incessantly blared on all the channels "that the progressive movement was so wrong headed even their precious leader quit." You have to keep in mind that the majority of Americans are watching American Idol, or Real World. They don't care about the ideology of either political party they just want to go with the one that makes them "feel good". Bush made them feel good, Palin makes them "feel good"; Obama makes a lot of them feel numb and dumb, so they don't want him. Obama really needs to get back the spark he had during his campaign, and a major part of that is shedding the personnel he took on when he took the White House.

We'll now I'm just ranting, so I'll stop here.

rewinn (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Out of 300 million Americans, the best guy Obama can think of is Ben Bernancke?

He is so important that a filibuster will be disallowed ... more important than health care reform?

Obama is handing Congress back to the Republicans, because Independents hate Bernancke

Quark (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Nels and Gerald,

BOTH parties are failed parties. That's what the Tea Parties and Perot, before them, were about.

DDay (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

After reading your posts for near six months I am relatively certain that your intentions are good. I must however question the validity of your messages. You are taught by your parents that America can do no wrong...you find out that isn't true so you decide all America is evil? Now you tell us that your older sons voted for McCain because the Republicans did such a bad job that they should clean it up? This is further proof that the apple indeed does not fall far from the tree. If you want to help things, I suggest that you join the Republican party. They could use some people with good intentions, and it would be beneficial to all if your decision making abilities were adopted by the GOP. You could become kind of a Trojan Horse for us. A poison pill! Consider it. :-)

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Quark, Obama has $150 million from his campaign and so he really does need to work after one term. If I had $150 million, I might care as well.

I love Paul Wellstone and his quote. Hopefully, Minnesota and all our states can elect another Paul Wellstone.

The late U.S. Senator said, “Politics is not about power. Politics is not about money. Politics is not about winning for the sake of winning. Politics is about the improvement of people’s lives. It’s about advancing the cause of peace and justice in our country and in the world. Politics is about doing well for people.”

Great quote from Paul Wellstone!!!

Thom, you are too optimistic in speaking of Obama. He's a loser.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

@Quark, I cant disagree with your assessment that both parties are failed parties. Of course it occurs to me that really in a lot of ways they are just two sides of the same coin. And its not so much that they have failed, so much as their handlers have succeeded. The Government is currently being held under in the bathtub.

Blue Mark (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

There is an article on Huffpost about despised Rahm Emmanual is by progressive.

Who would you like to replace him. Who is progressive and has the chops to push through good policy and get Congress to follow?

Someone like a Howard Dean with LBJ's powers of persuasion?

DDay (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

@ Nels

I like and agree with your "rant". Few things are black and white and most of them are best left to childhood.

DDay (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Lawrence O'Donnell for chief of staff.

mstaggerlee (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

@Brad - 2 things about that poll ... you linked -

1) It's from September of 2008 - just after her selection by McCain - and it's about whether or not she's qualified to be the VICE-president, not the President.

2) The "No" votes outweigh the "Yes"es by 95% to 5%.

I don't think any further action on our part is necessary.

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

DDay, my parents never said to me that America can do no wrong. I said that they patriotic Americans. The good Catholic sisters preached how great America is. But, the good sisters never said to me that America can do no wrong.

DDay, I do not know if you have children. We have children and we have had them to think for themselves. We have never made our children clones of their parents. We are very proud of our sons because they can think for themselves. They are true Americans. True Americans are discerning Americans.

DDay, I am a member of the KMA club in retirement. I am not interested in being politically correct.

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Quark, you are right; both parties are failed parties.

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

My parents WERE partriotic Americans.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Sound's like Thom wants a Teddy Roosevelt. However Roosevelt was a fluke, he was made the Vice President to McKinley because the party leaders wanted him to go away and nothing like the Vice Presidency to take a politician out of the public eye. When McKinley was assassinated, well much to the consternation of the party bosses, Roosevelt became President. Somewhat similar to LBJ's rise to power, but of course the differences are numerous and stark. Point being, powerful, outspoken progressive politicians don't get to be president, it takes unforeseen circumstances for that to happen. Christ I hope we don't get any "unforeseen circumstance" with this President... perhaps a stroke or heart attack for a right leaning Supreme Court Judge wouldn't be so terrible for the country, but that would really be more an act for God.

Richard L. Adlof (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago
Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Nels, I did not like Bush II because I viewed him as a stupid person and a mass murderer but he did have a pair of cajones.

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