Daily Topics - Wednesday January 20th 2010

angry imagesQuote:  "The people don't want a phony Democrat. If it's a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time; that is, they will take a Republican before they will a phony Democrat, and I don't want any phony Democratic candidates in this campaign." -- President Harry Truman - May 17, 1952

Hour One - Is it all about the Republicans vs. the phony Democrats?

Hour Two - Economist Dean Baker www.cepr.net  False Profits: Recovering from the Bubble Economy

Hour Three - Dan Gainor www.businessandmedia.org  Is it all about the Republicans vs. the phony Democrats?

Comments

Nels (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#1

@Rahm, thank you so much for your insight that progressives have nowhere else to go... oh but you forgot something you G.D. F'n brainiac, they can choose to stay home.

Brilliant Obama White House, just brilliant.

DRichards (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#2

It still seems to me that the republican and democratic parties are pretty much two sides of the same coin. Their actual polices are not all that much different. I would say that they have more in common, than they are different. As Clay Jenkins of "The Thomas Jefferson Hour" says; we have the big Hamiltonian party, and we have the smaller Hamiltonian party.

Ryan A (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#3

Here's some optimism from a college freshman:

The political revolution is coming, and even if the Republicans try to co-opt it, and it gets worse before it gets better, we will beat the banksters and corporatists and once again create an equal and fair society.

Ryan A (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#4

In the meantime, here's what I keep thinking about. Someone asked Will Rogers once "Do you belong to an organized political party?" To which he said "No Ma'am, I am a Democrat." Truer words never spoken, but he continued: "You've got to be an optimist to be a Democrat, and you've got to be a humourist to stay one." So look at it like this: Scott Brown, as a resident of Massachusetts, is still legally allowed to marry another man.

doctorlatte (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#5

I think people are really frustrated by the 2 party system... but at the same time, people do not understand the alternatives. Winner take all systems are difficult for that 49% of loosers to the 51% winners... but that winner take all model is even more unfair when only 2 parties get access to the game. How can a choice of two people be true democracy.

Nels (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#6

To keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect different results.

The definition of INSANITY

rewinn (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#7

Democratic "consultants" make money whether elections are won or lost, so actually winning is not a priority

Nels (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#8

Its been said that there is a fine line between genius and insanity.

I used to think Obama was a genius.

DRichards (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#9

Re: Libertarians and the free market.
Currently, the government is involved in the free market. Am I correct in the assumption that without government involvement we would not have the bailouts & corporate lobbyist? Is there a balance that can be achieved whereas government acts as a policing agency regarding corporate crime and unfair business practices, such as monopolies & tariffs, and yet other wise stays out of the free market?

Mark K (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#10

Be careful for what you wish for, Thom. This invite to “Democrats” to this teabagger convention can only have the ulterior motive of weaning away the weak-willed to either apathy and cynicism, or perhaps potential party switching. Obama has been so far under siege from the “progressive” side of the party that progressives often sound like Republicans in tone if not philosophy. If Obama is “hated” so much on the left (to the ear of the casual listener or “conservative”), there is obviously much confusion to be had from the “independent” voter. Such “confusion” rarely takes into account the campaign rhetoric of some of Scott Brown’s supporters in Massachusetts, where one wrote on Brown’s Facebook page that that Brown should “rape” Martha Coakley, while another looked forward to Coakley being “shot.” This is the “face” of the so-called “tea party” movement;

But bigoted nut-jobs aside, why would Massachusetts voters vote for someone who clearly is only against things rather than for them? The corporate media is saying that it is a vote against “big government” and health care reform, as if we expect it say anything else. Where is the media when change is needed? All we get are untruths or sound-bites from the right. Where are the Edward R. Murrows who would expose the nation’s ills in front of millions of viewers? All we ever get from network “news magazines” that should be exposing the evils of unfettered capitalism are tabloid-style crime stories designed to excite the lowest common denominator. But “big government” stepping in to bring in some kind of sense to the financial and economic chaos that “little government” has wrought is what is clearly what is required. That we need health care reform also seems obvious. But these so-called “independent” voters who form the greater portion of the state’s voting block apparently have decided that life’s a crapshoot or a coin flip, and instead of thinking “independently” they abandoned what little “principal” they possess and voted for the other guy, this time. Some “message” they are sending.

Brown (who looks like Mitt Romney’s twin brother) clearly stands for nothing but the status quo that created that disorder to begin with; but the state’s voters, if they really had any sense of their personal stake in the nation’s wellbeing, should have realized that it is conservatives—both Republican and Democrat—who are stalling genuine “change” and simply voting for another Republican only further insures that nothing will change. This vote for another do-nothing Republican can do one of two things: force Democrats to realize the danger of seeming to be hopelessly divided and incompetent (which abandoning health care reform will only bring more sharply into focus) and show some semblance of unity on the vital problems of the day, or (as Mike Malloy implied in his own imitable sarcastic way) that the Democrats are what some people say they are—spineless cowards.

If we say that “teabaggers” controlled the “message” in Massachusetts, we can also be honest and say that they are not demanding “change,” either. They are too self-interested with greedy little minds for that. They didn’t care when the Bush administration set the table for fiscal irresponsibility with his initial $1.5 trillion tax cut, most if it for the wealthiest Americans (some of whom are leaders of the “movement”), conducted much of public policy in secret (most infamously energy policy, out of which came the Enron scandal), and some say deliberately allowed predatory lending to disrupt the homeowners market for their own nefarious purposes, leading to the current financial meltdown. What is fascinating to note is that after the disputed 2000 election, Bush initially stated that he had “heard” the electorate that backed his opponent by over 500,000 votes, and that he would reduce the amount of the tax cut and curb some of his other “initiatives” meant to further enrich his millionaire and billionaire friends. But Bush was weak, and the right of right wing of the Republicans demanded all, and Bush “caved” before he was sworn in.

On the other hand, most Democrats—particularly in the Senate—apparently felt no wind of change after the 2008 election, or even a mild breeze. What did senators think the voters wanted when they essentially gave them a 60 vote majority? Even the Blue Dogs should have known the sense of the country, and put away their petty complaints or the petty minds of some their right-wing constitutents. But they didn’t. Obama can be blamed for not making specific demands or putting forward a coherent framework for what he wanted for health care reform, but he may have thought that it would be too easy to attack, just as the Clinton’s 1993 proposal was. He put the onus on Congress to pass something they could vote for, and this was a recipe for a public relations disaster. Only a few congresspersons and senators really have a grasp on the complex nature of the health care industry; if Obama was serious about reform as something substantive and not window dressing, he would already have had a team of experts on the issue to formulate a coherent plan easy for Congress to digest; instead we have a smorgasbord of sometimes conflicting ideas (how is taxing “Cadillac plans” supposed to reduce costs rather than raise them?) and special deals and pork which makes mock of uniformity and certainty.

Yet does it make sense to penalize the Democrats at the voting booth because they “disappointed” us? What message are Massachusetts voters giving us when they vote for an irresponsible Republican whose core supporters are apparently far-right psychos who would condone the “rape” and “assassination” of the Democratic candidate to replace the Kennedy seat? Is it perhaps they never really were in support of “change” after all. Perhaps they considered electing a black guy as president sufficient “change.” If they were serious about reform, they would have been out their demanding it of both Republican and Democrat. But they did not. Yes, we hear the progressive left sounding off on left-wing radio, but as far as the “mainstream” media is concerned, “we” don’t exist. Hell, most Americans don’t know that “we” exist, let alone members of Congress. Progressives exist in a world that seems alien to most Americans; I was listening to the Ed Schultz show the other day when he engaged—or rather tried to—a “teabagger.” This guy only confirmed my belief that teabaggers are far-right lunatics expectorating the nonsense they get from the Becks and Hannitys of the world. Yet given the choice, the mainstream media gives these people all the rope they want, while the left is given a piece of twine to bicker with and tangle themselves up in.

Boris31 (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#11

Omission was rampant throughout the election coverage, I flipped through quite a few channels last night and never heard even one pundit mention 600 MILLION was spent to influence Healthcare last year. Most of that spending was of course was negative.

The Teabagger's received countless hours of every media format. Palin & Cheney rants were reported endlessly.

So I'm not surprised that Obama or any Democrat would take it on the chin in 2010. Omission certainly ruled the night.

Nels (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#12

Let the Republicans follow their leaders in lock step... right off the cliffs.

Progressives have a mind of their own, Obama can either lead them or get outta' da way! But if he expects that they're going to follow his lead no matter where he chooses to go, then he's go another think coming!

DDay (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#13

@mstaggerlee

Re: Health care now

Thank you for answering my inquiry about where we agreed on the issues surrounding health care reform yesterday. I don't really disagree that fixing our health care is an imperative. In a perfect world, fixing health care now would be a rational choice. American politics is anything but rational, as proved yesterday in Massachusetts. Taking on such a huge task is laudable. I believe it is a bridge too far coming out of the gate. Accomplishing such a massive societal change, in opposition to entrenched and powerful special interests requires momentum and critical mass behind it politically. It requires preparation. I look to the history of President Johnson when he accomplished civil rights reform. Johnson had the Senate and House clear their agendas by passing whatever "junk" bills that where on the dockets. He cleared the boards
to prevent any distractions or obstacles from derailing his efforts for the first two months. Johnson also used the mood following the assassination of Kennedy to help blitz his opponents politically. He struck while the iron was hot, but, not before preparing the field to favor his success. I believe history is instructive. I believe our President put the carriage before the horse.

Yes, we must solve this pressing need to reform health care ASAP. People are hurting as is our economy. How we get there is what I'm concerned about. When the front door is barred, I suggest that coming through the back door may be the fastest route to our goals. The Blitz-Krieg failed, let's start the siege.

Donald (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#14

Thom, remember who was the fiercest proponent of Lieberman when he was under attack in Conn. Lanny Davis was on tv everyday defending this traitor. Unfortunately because Davis calls himself a liberal, he is what the public expects from liberals and Democrats.

5RingsFitness (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#15

get em Thom, no quarter

Donald (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#16

Remember when Rahm Emanuel uttered the words, Obama doesn't have to worry about the left, well the left (progressives and liberals) just sent Obama, Emanuel, and the Democratic leadership a strong message; YES YOU DO! If Obama and the Democratic leadership fails to heed this warning, they deserve the drubbing they will get in November. They need to know that no matter how much money they get from K Street, wall street, and the health insurance companies, they still need the people's votes to put them in office. They would do well to heed the shot across the bow sent to them last night; but I fear they won't.

DRichards (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#17

Please refresh my memory
Did the Progressives give Bill Clinton enough time? What did Bill Clinton deliver after two terms?
Why did the republican & Democratic parties band together to keep any 3rd parties from the debate?

AVATAR (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#18

The Democrats always seem to have some excuse as to why they cannot get things done. Perhaps the problem is that they seem to not know what they are supposed to be doing. How simple would it have been to have simply extended medicare, instead it has been an absolute Clown show all year. And Obama keeps dissing the progressives. He will not recognize us. He used our agenda points while campaigning and then kept in Larry Summers, Tim G, all the justices.

That said, there are only two ways to pull. And the prissy progressives need to understand that by putting in another big banker playboy, we are even further from our camps direction.

And then they wonder why nothing gets done.

Plenty of blame to go around for everyone.

Gerald Socha (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#19

I knew in the first three months that Obama was a failed president.

Recently, I had an experience that I would want to share with you. As I was lying in bed, someone or something surfaced a thought before me. In America we are seeing much pain and suffering. The pain and suffering will be with us for another two generations. Maybe by 2050 this pain and suffering will ease. If it does ease, I will not be here to see the easing. I will be one hundred and ten years old. There is no way that I will live that long.

Before I drifted into a deep sleep, I had a vision of the Old Testament and The Book of Job. I recalled what Job said to his neighbor regarding all his pain and suffering. Job said to his neighbor, “It is God’s will and God knows best.”

Some people will see God’s actions as a punishing and vengeful God but these people will be wrong. I look upon pain and suffering in my natural world as God’s love and mercy for me. Feeling the pain and suffering in our natural world means that we will not have to experience eternal pain and suffering in our supernatural world.

Some people will see the Cross and see hatred and death but I see the Cross as love and life. What greater love can God give us to let His son die for our sins so that we may have eternal life? Yes, the Cross is about love and life.

I have tried to help make our world a better place through my comments and posts but our world will not be a better place until our nation and our citizens repent.

The pain and suffering will continue because IT IS GOD’S WILL AND GOD KNOWS BEST!!!

Darrell (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#20

Obama needs to either promote and defend the progressive ideals that gave him his office and majority or go the way of Mass. I won't vote for a Republican ever but I won't be voting for a Republican lite Dem like our Patty Murray in WA either. If someone has held office longer than two years, then vote 'em out!

doctorlatte (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#21

I wonder what the media was like in 1952??? For instance, I sometimes feel as if people today believe whatever they hear or read in the media. Given that many of the media outlets are coprorate owned, I am worried about the "facts" that people debate. Given that we only hear sound bites, and substance is lost in stories about clothing, I do not believe that voters today really know what they want. Politics today is all about being on thin ice. At any point, the news could choose to run wild on a super small story. For instance, if a politician gets the name of an athlete wrong... what does that have to do with anything. Or the famous Howard Dean scream.... Did media in 1952 have that much influence.

Jason (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#22

As long as we continue to expect real change from the President, we will continue to be disappointed. Presidents are politicians and therefore lag behind public sentiment. The only way to effect real change, just like it was with the labor movement and the civil rights movement, is to assemble and demand and not concede. True social change comes from the bottom up, never from the top down.

DRichards (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#23

Re Tea Baggers
I know of only one person who has actually attended a tea party event. I would not consider this person to be part of the radical right. This person is against big government, the bailouts & corporate lobbyist. I would say that this person is disillusioned by both the democratic & republican parties. It seems to me that the republicans are trying to hijack the tea party movement.

AVATAR (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#24

NAFTA was passed with 50 votes. And yes, since 1923 the Republicans have not had a super majority. And look at how much of the world has become like them.

Tom Harkin...to re introduce a bill to kill the fillibuster?

AVATAR (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#25

I've seen it happen time after time. When the Democratic candidate allows himself to be put on the defensive and starts apologizing for the New Deal and the fair Deal, and says he really doesn't believe in them, he is sure to lose. The people don't want a phony Democrat. If it's a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time; that is, they will take a Republican before they will a phony Democrat, and I don't want any phony Democratic candidates in this campaign.

But when a Democratic candidate goes out and explains what the New Deal and fair Deal really are--when he stands up like a man and puts the issues before the people--then Democrats can win, even in places where they have never won before. It has been proven time and again.

http://www.trumanlibrary.org/publicpapers/index.php?pid=1296

rewinn (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#26

I don't want to hear any B.S. about "The Blame Game" or "Circular Firing Squad" or "Finger Pointing".

If you don't analyze failure, you can't succeed.

If you don't take a hard look at why you did not succeed, you are not really interested in succeeding.

In the software industry, debugging is king!

Gerald Socha (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#27

Stephen Lendman writes great articles that are usually seven pages. His work is well woth the read.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Outsourcing-War-The-Rise-by-Stephen-Len...

Gerald Socha (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#28
Nels (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#29

As Abraham Lincoln said of McClellan when this general kept refusing to engage the enemy: "If General McClellan does not want to use the army, I would like to borrow it for a time."

Such a quote really applies to Obama and the progressive side of the party.

Charell (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#30

Why is no one talking about the Kennedy-Sanders Clinics in the current Health Care Bill? It's better than the Public Option!

-- 14,000 nationwide Community Health Clinics
-- Expand CHC capabilities to match VHA technology
-- 45,000,000 people served (vs. only 3,000,000 with Public Option)
-- $$$$$ to attract 20,000 primary care physicians, nurses, etc.
-- Drugs at VHA prices !!!
-- Dental care
-- Patient billing scaled to income

Source: vets74 diary at DailyKos

Zero G. (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#31

The true face of the Obama administration is evident in the Haiti "relief" effort. Instead of food, water and medical supplies being priorities, we see a massive military occupation, prioritizing security - when observers on the ground are not seeing a security problem.

Doctors without borders had an aid flight diverted, as was a plane carrying Caricom heads of state. George W. Bush being named as a face of humanitarian aid, after he orchestrated the 2nd ouster of the popularly elected Aristide. Clinton made sure that the reinstated Aristide's hands were tied to the neoliberal agenda, after the first coup d'etat ochestrated by Poppy Bush.

Clinton has been called the W's fourth Bush brother, but I had thought that had been Bandar Bush.

The US owns the Port au Prince airport, according to an agreement with the Haitian government, conveniently installed by the US...

Return Aristide and democracy to Haiti.

DDay (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#32

The only lessons to take from yesterday's election in Massachusetts is first, all politics are local; and secondly that the predominant reason for Brown's victory was the electorate's anger. He won 69% of the independent vote. Independents are the largest block of voters in Mass. Martha stepped on her tongue too many times and pissed off the madding crowd. Compounding Martha's problems was the fact that the progressive are pissed off too. Many of them stayed home. So the independents were angry, the Republicans were suddenly energized, and the left was disgusted. It was a perfect storm. Mass hysteria.

Gerald Socha (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#33

Here is another great article from Paul Craig Roberts.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Rule-of-Law-Has-Been-L-by-Paul-Crai...

Nels (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#34

BTW, I don't think I've seen anyone post a comment about Coakley. I must say, her sorry campaign really does share in this loss. I mean give me a break, she lost Kennedys' senate seat. She lost it because it was hers' to lose.

AVATAR (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#35

Well...this Brown guy IS a chameleon. He IS pro-choice. Maybe we can bring him around?! At least on environmental issues -- join Shane Brooks Tea party 90% solution Operation Pitchfork http://operationpitchfork.com/2.html

Zero G. (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#36

@doctorlatte: I wonder what the media was like in 1952???

The Mighty Wurlitzer
How the CIA Played America
Hugh Wilford
http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog/WILMIG.html?show=reviews

AVATAR (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#37

Brothers and sisters - see The Whitehouse on Facebook. I just discovered that page after following it from the official contact page. Be sure you put in The Whitehouse. We need to balance out the rivalry over there.

Aldous Tyler, Host of TMI (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#38

There is a complete misunderstanding about how to read polls that track how people who declare themselves "Republicans", "Democrats" and "Independents" vote, and this misconception strongly favors the GOP. Here's the problem:

If a pollster asks someone what party they affiliate themselves with, generally, there will be three big answers: Republican, Democratic, or Independent. I'm counting Green, Libertarian and the like out here, as most polls don't even report those answers. So, what do these answers mean?

If I say I'm a Republican, it means that I am willing to tell a complete stranger that I am mostly or completely comfortable with what the GOP stands for and is pushing for (or against). The same applies if I answer Democratic. But how many Liberal and Progressive people are willing to verbally ally themselves with Democrats right now?

That leaves us too-Liberal-or-Progressive-to-call-ourselves-Democratic folks to answer "Independent", and over the past year, more and more of us have been distancing ourselves from the big "D" party.

But that's not how pollsters and the mainstream, common media interpret things, and it is why they are wrong. To the average media person, an Independent voter is someone in the middle, who could vote Republican or Democratic with equal ease, depending on other factors. Now, don't get me wrong, there are a good percentage of Independents out there who fit that description, but I posit that over the past decade, they've been on the wane, and more of us who feel ill-at-ease with how capitulatory the Democratic Party as a whole has become has risen.

So, what does that mean? For one thing, it means that when a pollster or media person presents a poll saying 50% of Massachusetts voters are Independent, they think it means they could vote either way, and the message that carries to the candidates is: be more centrist. However, what is actually happening is that as the candidates and elected officials play more to the right, they lose us "Liberal Independents", causing us not to vote for the Republican (which we'd virtually never do), but also not to vote for them in the numbers we otherwise would.

The other effect is that when a Democratic candidate loses, the assumption is that, because Independents overall were very unhappy, that everyone in office needs to play even more to the right. This loses them even more of this Liberal Independent support, and is yet another boon for the GOP.

And all because our polls are based on the fallacy that most everyone who is Liberal will want to call themselves a Democrat.

What we must do is convey the truth to our candidates and elected officials: the further center you play, the less of us you have in your ballot box. This isn't your father's Independent grouping anymore. It's time to wake up and smell the Liberal.

AVATAR (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#39

@Nels you are right. we have some snobby arrogant limousine liberals in our party. They are too arrogant to even educate or to sell. After listening to both candidates myself, I might have been tempted to partake of the deceptive marketing.

I have tried working with our local democrats here, and many of them are really little robots. We do have a Wellstone Club here and they are very cool.

doctorlatte (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#40

I submit that when voter turn out is low, this is due to the fact that voters see the tweedle dee and tweedle dum options as phony. I dream of the politician that can bring out a true landslide victory. Regardless of party, I do think that this person is out there somewhere,,, perhaps in your chat room. Wouldn't it be rare if someone could inspire every American to get out the vote. Or, is it the issues, and not the candidate that people vote for? I hear many comments that seem to indicate that often people check the box based on just 1 issue... ugh!

AVATAR (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#41

Here is an example of how the Democrats should message: Republicans dont want Americans to be able to see a doctor.

Then, maybe the average American, that reads at a 6th grade level, will understand.

DRichards (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#42

RE That leaves us too-Liberal-or-Progressive-to-call-ourselves-Democratic folks to answer “Independent”, and over the past year, more and more of us have been distancing ourselves from the big “D” party.

Hmmm. That sure does sound like me! I classify myself as an independent, because I am mostly a progressive who no longer identifies with the Democratic party.

Nels (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#43

Obama's habit of reaching out to the right wingers is tantamount to fraternizing with the enemy. I don't care one wit for the Washington insider friendships, it's BS, its always been BS. The Democratic leadership rather enjoy the trappings of wealth than to work for the people who put them there.

To me its just plain disgusting. I doubt that all but a few democrats are willing to fight the good fight, the rest will just curl up in their comfortable positions and remain on "autopilot". Voting them out is our only hope, but good luck on getting the DLC to go along with that.

I can only hope Obama finally gets the message, as well as I hope he doesn't interpret it as a need to double his efforts reach out even more to the right to appease them.

Nels (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#44

Kennedy is responsible for the crash yesterday... he never should have gotten a brain tumor... what was he thinking?

(That's just a little right-wing thinking)

Gerald Socha (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#45

I grieve for Haiti and for America's evil ways.

http://ncronline.org/blogs/road-peace/grieving-haiti

DRichards (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#46

The First Anniversary of Hope and Change
By Anthony Gregory
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=541Bush's Ninth Year?

...While many left-liberal partisans continue to cheer on Obama and attempt to hush all dissent, some on the left have become critical of Obama's continuation of Bush's policies. Those who recognize Obama's first year as essentially an extension of the Bush administration still often fall short of recognizing the fundamental issue here: This was practically meant to be. The two parties hand power off to one another, but the essential political realities remain in place. Caroll Quigley, the brilliant historian of the establishment, wrote in Tragedy and Hope:

"The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy.... Either party in office becomes in time corrupt, tired, unenterprising, and vigorless. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies".

Richard L. Adlof (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#47

Scott Brown rode the President and DLC's coattails into his Senate seat. The DLC slunk into the White House, put forth a fairly pro-Corporatist agenda, abandoned Progressive roots THEN blamed the woman for losing . . . A week BEFORE the election. The DNC NEEDS to purge the Democrats Loving Corporations and remember 'demo' refers to flesh and blood PEOPLE.

The present Administration has a closer relationship with Senator Lieberman than it does with the American Citizenry. And finally, where were Harry Reid and the DSCC in this?

AVATAR (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#48

@Nels, you know RFK Jr. is taking on Massey Coal CEO in a debate over global warming. - He will especially need our support.You can watch online and we can send strong and supportive thoughts.

The debate is 6pm Jan 21 http://www.ucwv.edu/events/energy_forum.aspx

Zero G. (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#49

Another huge telling point on the reality of the Obama administration is the Justice Dept. under AG Holder. Unless you prosecute the torturers, you have not ended torture. Indeed, isn't it always the law enforcement community that uses the terms of "closure for the victim," in advocating the death penalty or other harsh punishment? How can there be such closure for the victims of our torture if the torturers remain free?

Please see:
No Comment
By Scott Horton
January 19, 3:14 PM
The Official Response Begins

http://www.harpers.org/subjects/NoComment

DDay (not verified) 9 years 46 weeks ago
#50

@ Aldous Tyler,

I completely agree with you. I live in Minnesota's 6th Congressional District. Home to Michele Bachmann and widely considered to be one of the five most independent Districts in America. I have been fighting State Political Dems and the DCCC for 3 cycles because they believe that the way to beat someone like Bachmann is to find someone who leans right to run. This district was responsible for electing Jesse Ventura who is hardly a conservative. The independents here are drawn to two things, in my estimation. They like a fighter... and they seek authenticity. Ideology bores them mostly. Thank you for your two cents worth. It is golden to me.

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"The powers that be are running roughshod over the powers that OUGHT to be. Hartmann tells us what went wrong — and what you and I can do to help set American right again."
Jim Hightower, National Radio Commentator, Writer, Public Speaker, and author of the bestselling Thieves in High Places
From Cracking the Code:
"Thom Hartmann ought to be bronzed. His new book sets off from the same high plane as the last and offers explicit tools and how-to advice that will allow you to see, hear, and feel propaganda when it's directed at you and use the same techniques to refute it. His book would make a deaf-mute a better communicator. I want him on my reading table every day, and if you try one of his books, so will you."
Peter Coyote, actor and author of Sleeping Where I Fall
From Unequal Protection, 2nd Edition:
"If you wonder why and when giant corporations got the power to reign supreme over us, here’s the story."
Jim Hightower, national radio commentator and author of Swim Against the Current