Daily Topics - Wednesday January 27th 2010

hell imagesQuote: "The point in history at which we stand is full of promise and danger. The world will either move forward toward unity and widely shared prosperity - or it will move apart." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

Hour One - State of the Union, Pimps and Corporate Personhood - your calls

Plus...Bill Bradbury, Democratic Candidate for Oregon Governor, former Oregon Secretary of State www.bradbury2010.com Proposes forming "Bank of Oregon" if elected Governor (Why do we need state owned banks?)

But wait - there's more...Supreme Court ruled corporations have personhood, so a corporation is running for Congress? Eric Hensal "Designated human" at "Murray Hill Inc. for Congress" campaign murrayhillincforcongress.com Supreme

Hour Two - State of the Union, Pimps and Corporations as Candidates - your calls

Plus...."Everything You Know is Wrong"  Bill Wiese www.soulchoiceministries.org "23 Minutes in Hell"

Hour Three – Why are you supporting "Too Big to Fail?" John Lott www.johnrlott.blogspot.com


Mark K (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

It appears that right-wing activist James O'Keefe, responsible for the undercover "expose" of ACORN, was arrested, along with a couple of friends, for tampering with Sen. Mary Landrieu's office phones in a "Watergate" style operation. Interesting to see where this goes.

There was also something interesting I read in the book “Game Change” that certainly puzzles. Obama was apparently bored with being a U.S. senator, because he had to spend a lot of time with a bunch of old men (and women) who were bursting with self-inflation and did nothing all day but “yak, yak, yak.” Knowing this, why did Obama decide to give them the responsibility of formulating health care reform? Did he think they needed something to do to occupy their time, like something important? Perhaps this should be a lesson to him—that kids, no matter what their age, need parental guidance.

Mark K (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

I also want to say that Thom reminds me in some ways to Brett Favre (which coming from me should be taken as a compliment). Favre did what he could to advance the Vikings’ cause, but the team allowed their quarterback to be beaten to a pulp and look like a jigsaw puzzle with a couple of pieces gone (wasn’t that a Jim Croce song?). It makes me think that the Vikings didn’t deserve to go to the promised land. One sportswriter noted that as Favre was hobbling out of the stadium, he was wrapped-up like a mummy—not just because of the injured angle, but an injured hand, bruised thigh and ribs. After the game, one of the offensive linemen supposedly asked Favre what more could he do; the appropriate answer would have been the next time not to take a break from blocking the opposing player in front of him every other down. For you interception freaks, Favre’s career int. percentage (3.2) compares favorably to the likes of Marino, Elway and Aikman, and even more favorably to Blanda (6.9), Namath (5.8), Bradshaw (5.4), and Unitas (4.9).

Anyways, like Favre, Thom soldiers on despite getting continuously battered and bruised, taking hits for the team even from the people he thinks are his “teammates.” Take the teabaggers, for instance. Thom took sack after sack from John O’Hara, who claims to represent the true nature of the tea party “movement.” O’Hara disabused Thom of all of his romantic notions about teabaggers, that they were playing on the same “team” with the same idea of how to “win” the game. Teabaggers are not “populists.” Teabaggers are against health care reform. Teabaggers are not against CEOs and Wall Street hooligans making millions and billions of dollars (they only care if “their” taxes are paying for those bonuses). Teabaggers are against government spending to create jobs. Teabaggers think that tax cuts are the answer for everything. Thom isn’t going to “win” with these guys, let alone go to the Super Bowl (unless he pays for the tickets).

DRichards (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Poll finds Americans trust Fox News more than any other network
A poll of (only) 1,151 registered American voters, who were asked whether they trust each of the major television news networks. Ranking number one: Fox News Channel.
"49% of Americans say they trust Fox News to 37% who disagree," the poll's authors wrote. "Predictably there is a large party split on this with 74% of Republicans but only 30% of Democrats saying they trust the right leaning network."

DRichards (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

What Should We Make of Obama's "Spending Freeze"

As Wikipedia describes it:

In economics, austerity is when a national government reduces its spending in order to pay back creditors. Austerity is usually required when a government's fiscal deficit spending is felt to be unsustainable.

Development projects, welfare programs and other social spending are common areas of spending for cuts. In many countries, austerity measures have been associated with short-term standard of living declines until economic conditions improved once fiscal balance was achieved (such as in the United Kingdom under Margaret Thatcher, Canada under Jean Chrétien, and Spain under González).

Private banks, or institutions like the International Monetary Fund (IMF), may require that a country pursues an 'austerity policy' if it wants to re-finance loans that are about to come due. The government may be asked to stop issuing subsidies or to otherwise reduce public spending. When the IMF requires such a policy, the terms are known as 'IMF conditionalities'.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Congrats Thom, Oregon, all you crazy Pacific Northwest Progressives.... way to go.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Maybe California can catch some of the Oregon rationality... hope it is contagious.

ron (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

i feel some of the big bonuses and salary need to be pointed out by obama and even more clearly (to the regular folks) than thom has been thom been saying about the wages the one health care ceo got 700 million in 5 years i believe is the amount but i did the math on the actual amount on a 40 hr work week which i doubt he accomplished came out to 67,000 $ an hour now that catches peoples attention and hes just one guy . come on obama spring your trap tonight say i even offered them what they wanted a spending freeze and still not enough WHEN WILL THE GREED STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phil (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

This decision (Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission) will essentially remove the voice of "We the People" from our representatives in Washington, DC. Now, it is clear that the largest corporations are going to use elected representatives as puppets to control the government for their own ends!

The pretense is past! Corporations are now powerful enough to use us ALL (Republican or Democrat) for their will, out in the open.... no need to hide the greed and corruption! With the help of the Supreme Court, Corporations RULE !

And now that the transformation is complete, it can be said that Corporations HAVE MORE RIGHTS THAN HUMANS!

Long live Corporations!

Jonakron (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

"What would Jefferson say about our current SCOTUS"

This is how Jefferson viewed corporations in his day -

"The selfish spirit of commerce knows no country, and feels no
passion or principle but that of gain." --Thomas Jefferson to
Larkin Smith, 1809.

Jefferson is rolling in his grave today watching his republican democracy slipping away from the country he so loved.

Zero G. (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

22 Democratic senators voted to confrm John Roberts as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court - despite pleas from the "Democratic base."

Who should we look to now that the court has opened the money floodgates into the election campaigns?

How many Democratic senators are now prepared to vote to reconfirm Ben Bernanke as fed chair? If Capt. Hazeltine (Exxon Valdez) were to ask you for a ship's captain's position how would you react?

Who was telling Bush that the "fundamentals of the economy are strong"?

Whisky Tango Foxtrot - it's not a dance...

Nels (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

I don't think Greed ever stops, its like a black hole it just keeps feeding on everything it can. That being the case regulations need to be re-instated and enforced.

The cons will continue asking for more and more, no matter what. That is their one and only strategy. And they stoop lower and lower to achieve their goals, tactics include, whining, crying, blustery empty threats, holding their breath, being ultra hypocritical and well pretty much acting like a bunch of petulant 3-year-olds.

Ryan A (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

To all the libertarians who are rejoicing at the Supreme Court decision: Let's open up the political system to real competition, and monopolies (or duopolies) stifle competition! Let's create a "free market" for our elections where any qualified candidate can have a chance to get elected.

mstaggerlee (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Thom asks why Dubya is not being subjected to the kind of scrutiny that Tony Blair is undergoing in the UK. The answer is obvious.

By and large, here in the US, we're OK with the wars. Or, at least, those who hold the REAL power are.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

In regards to the State of the Union Speech, I'm not all that excited about it. I certainly hope the President takes a firm stand, but my expectations are low. Even if he does make promises I like, I'm still not going to believe it until I see it.

"Actions speak louder than words!"

I haven't any trust in ANY... (let me repeat that) ANY POLITICIANS' word. Not worth the air their spoken into.

(I doubt I'll find many who disagree with me here, sorry if I'm just preaching to the choir. Just venting.)

Zero G. (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Obama's words are already bad, increased spending for the military and homeland insecurity, spending freeze on domestic programs. Guns, no butter.

Steve Pipenger (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

I know what I would say if I were there vis a vis Joe Wilson: nothing. Because I wouldn't go. I'm also not going to watch. I can't watch this guy because I'm sick of the flowery, feel good language. When I wake one day and he has done just one of the following, I will care again:

1) fired Emmanuel
2) fired Geithner
3) fired Summers
4) ordered stop loss under DADT
5) proposed repeal of DOMA (because he believes it to be unconstitutional)

Absent just one of these things, he's Bush. Every time I see movement (listening to Volcker), then he proposes this crap with a freeze.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Zero G., perhaps we can use Gun oil as a butter substitute.

Charles (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

I just can't get my head around how McCain's platform is what we voted for.

Go back and look at his healthcare reform; companies across state lines, taxing employee benifits, no public option ...

Now his spending freeze is being pushed. Listen to the tape, Obama is using almost the same words.

Bush appointees. We voted to change the face of government yet many holdovers remain one year into this administration.

Zero G. (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Nels, ask the Haitians how that's working out.

from Democracy Now! http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/27/headlines#2
Tear Gas Fired at Haitians Seeking Food Aid
In Haiti, starving Haitians were tear-gassed Tuesday after crowding a relief center with scarce food aid. Desperate earthquake survivors had rushed to grab bags of dried grains after the center ran low on supplies for a second consecutive day. Brazilian forces with the UN mission to Haiti fired tear gas at the crowd.


Notice that it was only after the food supplies started running low that the Haitians were unruly, if they had trucked more food and less tear gas....?

Charles (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Can someone tell me who the Democrats were that would not vote for Errol Southers as TSA chief? I ask because Sanders hold on Bernanke will most likely be overturned with a 60 vote, 40 Republicans and 20 ConservoDems. Since a hold is just the intent to filibuster and can be suppressed by the same 60 votes, there had to be at least one Dem on the same side of Jim Demint.

DRichards (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Re: Homeland Security

My father lives in Arizona. When he moved his house trailer to a new location down the street, he told me that it was Homeland Security who had to come and inspect it; making sure it was at the proper elevation in case of flooding.

Go Figure... What does that have to do with "Homeland Security"?

Bill (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Thom---Can you touch on Toyota's moral decision to put the company in jeopardy by doing the right thing.

ctk (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

thom says that republicans want to make the electorate cynical and angry and not turn out? i have always been cynical and i started getting angry when i started following politics more closely. it doesn't make me want to stay home. it makes me want to vote for and work for even more the people who i think are a whole heck of a lot more capable than the ones that are in office now.

i see republican obstruction and in some cases democratic enabling of republican obstruction and i get into a mega throw the bums out mode. i don't stay home, i get louder.

Zero G. (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago


Since FEMA is under the Dept. of Homeland Security, and FEMA would deal with a flood if the unfortunate event occured. FEMA used to be a stand alone agency with a cabinet seat.

Charles (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Caller Jeff referring to employers in the trades only hiring independent contractors. This is their way of passing the entire cost of employment onto the employee.
The real problem is the practice is now being taken up in temp services. The service places the "independent contractor" in a job for a fee. The IC is then issued a check for a portion of this fee with none of the earnings taxes applied. They then pass the full tax liability on to the IC. These are generally low-wage jobs.

The Church Lady (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

re: "I haven't trust in ANY POLITICIAN"
As I have said before, I think blanket statements are usually unfair and inaccurate. I don't believe the USA is an evil nation. I believe we sometimes do evil things. I don't believe all politicians are liars or dishonest, I believe some of them act out of true fealty to the people's best interests and should be admired. That doesn't mean they aren't human, and make occassional mistakes. Paul Simon (Illinois), Paul Wellstone, Al Franken, Russ Feingold, Dennis Kucinich, Dick Durbin, and Byron Dorgan are all, I believe, good public servants. There are many others who aren't senators. It is never good policy to throw the baby out with the bath water. Call me a weirdo, (I am), but I admire good lawyers and good politicians. They are sometimes our best hope. They may even be our only hope for positive change for a just and free future.

Marcia (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Let's cut to the chase. What would I like to say to the president tonight? Who are you and what have you done with the Barack Obama we elected?

Nels (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Perhaps this Conservative Real Estate traveler to hell, actually got off his plane in a southern state during the summer.

Although I can see how this guy's life lead him to this eye opening experience.

Zero G. (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Its God's Guantanamo...

Richard L. Adlof (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Bill Wiese did meet his God just like the other folk THOM rattled off . . . Rapturians do worship the pain and suffering and hate and . . .

Zero G. (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

He created it, but its not his jurisdiction.

Richard L. Adlof (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

@Zero G. @ January 27th, 2010, 10:25 am: LMAO!

Richard L. Adlof (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Roman folk needed to scapegoat a dude.

DRichards (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

(According to Christianity), God loves us so much that he will send us to hell to burn forever if we do not love him in return, and accept his sacrifice of himself, to himself for our sins.

Charles (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Glad to here you will take calls from Hell, Michigan.

Zero G. (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Crucifiction - stress position until death.

DRichards (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

I understand, but why is FEMA part of "Homeland Security"? What does FEMA's juristrisction have to do with keeping our homeland safe from terrorism?

Zero G. (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

From Robert Parry's Consortium News:

Bush Silences a Dangerous Witness

By Robert Parry
January 26, 2010 (Originally published December 30, 2006)

Editor’s Note: The hanging of Ali Hassan al-Majid, known as “Chemical Ali” for his role in using chemical weapons in Iraqi wars of the 1980s and early 1990s, silenced yet one more witness who otherwise could have filled in the blanks of the Reagan-Bush-I roles in secretly assisting Saddam Hussein’s armies, the so-called Iraq-gate scandal.

If Majid had been turned over to the International Criminal Court – rather than prosecuted by kangaroo tribunals set up in Iraq by George W. Bush’s administration – he could have been systematically debriefed about what U.S. officials, including George H.W. Bush, did to facilitate Iraq’s acquisition of dangerous chemical weapons.

Instead, Majid – wearing a red jump suit, his head covered by a black sack and a noose around his neck – was dropped through the trap door of a scaffold on Monday. His potential to embarrass the Bush Family was eliminated, just as was done to Saddam Hussein three years ago, as this Dec. 30, 2006, article (slightly modified) recounts:

Charles (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

The Department of Homeland Security keeps us "safe" from threats from both inside and outside the country. And, apparently from Pat Robertson's god.

Zero G. (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago


Bush wanted to securitize and privatize in the event of a Shock and Awe event, ala Blackwater in New Orleans, 82nd Airborne/Marines in Haiti.

Military/security gets all the funding, they and only they then, have resources in the event.

Richard L. Adlof (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

A FUAX News Affiliate won the right to lie a decade ago . . .

Richard L. Adlof (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

I argue the FEMA is Homeland Security and suggest that terrorism should be confined to Fatherland Security's purview.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

I think this Real Estate guy who claims he had a out of body experience in hell, was no more the a pragmatist who realized his current career was awash, so he came up with the easiest (and most odious) for to get easy money, start a church.

I don't know if I believe in hell, but I want to (how else will we ever get justice for Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush, Rice....)

Charles (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago


Spot on.

My wife and I had this discussion over the weekend. It seems quite easy to claim a nonverifiable revelation or vision and take that claim to the masses. A good YouTube video is all you need.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Charles, tell me about it... you'd think this guy would've had at least a modicum of imagination and not claim that "Hell is just like what your Sunday preacher says it is, but even more so" (I'm paraphrasing of course).

I'd say at this point he's on the edge of plagiarism.

I wonder, in regards to the oldest business, which came first the Preacher or the Prostitute? I already know which one I view as being harmful to society.

geph (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Is a hostile takeover of one corporation by another now considered rape or enslavement?

DRichards (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

But doesn't God (usually) use a cave to give his revelations in private?


Charles (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

That was in the days before toasters and potato chips.

Richard L. Adlof (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Bernanke seriously needs to go . . . Only the input of Darrel Issa sheds any doubt.

Dave (not verified) 10 years 4 weeks ago

Pre-State of the Union Musings:

1) Now that the Supreme Court has officially declared that corporations are "persons", corporations should be TAXED AT PERSONAL INCOME TAX RATES! Sounds good to me, plus these new "persons" will not be able to take tax deductions for their political donations! In addition, a "persons" gambling winnings are fully taxable, (read:credit default swaps)!

We should also look at raising the top marginal income tax rate and raise the capital gains tax on gains above $50,000 per year!

2) Cuts to education? Damn, I guess we won't be able to afford those new "revised" textbooks from Texas!

3) No cuts to the "Arts", you know security theater, brought to you by the "Department of Homeland Security" theater company!

I can hardly wait for the address......

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