Daily Topics - Wednesday February 3rd 2010

afghanistan 2 imagesQuote:  “Talk about centralisation! The credit system, which has its focus in the so-called national banks and the big money-lenders and usurers surrounding them, constitutes enormous centralisation, and gives this class of parasites the fabulous power, not only to periodically despoil industrial capitalists, but also to interfere in actual production in a most dangerous manner— and this gang knows nothing about production and has nothing to do with it.” -- Karl Marx

Hour One - Why do you think that creating a million more terrorists and inflaiming the Islamic world is somehow going to "save" Obama's presidency? Are you suggesting that this will work out for Obama just as that nice little war in Iraq worked out for Bush? Daniel Pipes www.meforum.org and www.danielpipes.org

Plus...Ron Lopez, Employed at Toyota (NUMMI) factory for 18 years; his wife for 15 years. Toyota to close NUMMI plant in Freemont, CA

Hour Two - Dick Kay, Political reporter for NBC TV in Chicago for 38 years www.doogiesplace.com Are the Democrats getting their mojo back?

Plus...Mark Karlin, Editor and Publisher of Buzzflash.com  Buzzflash "Wings of Justice" award for "Unequal Protection", also Chicago primary

Hour Three - Eamonn Fingleton www.unsustainable.org  Japan - Economy...who's recovering, who's not and why?

Plus...Steve Keen www.debtdeflation.com From Austrailia - Economy...who's recovering, who's not and why?


Los Angeles, CA - Saturday, February 6th, 7:30pm at the Downtown Independent Theater (251 S. Main Street in L.A.)  - a special screening of Robert Greenwald's powerful film "Rethink Afghanistan"...speakers include Thom Hartmann, Robert Greenwald, and Anand Gopal, Afghanistan based correspondent for the Christian Science Monitor.  Free tickets!!   But you MUST RSVP at  www.rethinkafghanistan.com/screenings


Nels (not verified) 10 years 34 weeks ago

Well Gerald, I don't disagree with your premise that America is operating above the law... or king of the world if you will. My point was more to the practicality of calling out our current administration as War Criminals. It would seem far more realistic to pursue members of the last administration first and foremost.

I personally would like to see the United Nations become a more effective arbitrator between nations as President Wilson initially envisioned the League of Nations at the end of WWI.

A world that is subject to the will of a minority of countries will always be unstable. I don't see how putting Obama in the Hague resolves this, another American President will fill his shoes... it may remove some symptoms, but the cause is still there.

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 34 weeks ago

Here are the last two paragrphs of Brent's article.

A recent Gallup poll found that 76 percent of Americans believe government should limit corporate political spending. There will be a tidal wave of public support for making American elections American-only.

Our system is corrupt to the core. If a special interest offered bags of cash in return for a politician's vote, it would be a criminal felony. Our system is designed to legalize what is essentially this transaction. The least we can do is not further globalize the corruption.

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 34 weeks ago

@Nels, I do not know criminal law but I believe that Obama would be tried after he leaves office.

I have called on Obama to join the International Criminal Court to investigate Bush/Cheney. Obama has refused to let America become part of the family of nations. Obama has chosen to follow in the Bush/Cheney footsteps and be a war criminal.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 34 weeks ago

I can only hope that the Fox News disciples are unable to blunt the flood. I feel that the American people would never allow our government to be in the condition it is if they knew the nature of its condition. Many however, seem far more satisfied with being told every thing is fine except for what the progressives are trying to do.

"If you repeat a lie often enough, people will begin to accept it as the truth."
(Do I really need to site the source for this phrase?)

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 34 weeks ago

@Nels, the United Nations could be an important factor in world peace but we have many Americans who have scorn for the UN and the UN has had some corruption problems and so the UN may not be the answer. What a waste of such an organization!!!

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 34 weeks ago

@Nels, when 94% of the MSM is controlled by liars, how can Americans really receive the truth in order to make the right decisions. Their motto is to keep Americans stupid.

Tom Palmer (not verified) 10 years 34 weeks ago

Gerald: I have also called on Obama to invetigate the bush crime family,I finally started calling Eric Holders Office1-206-514-2001. I do this every week and ask that they invetigate the bush crime family.We all need to call and get friends and relatives to call.We need rule of law back so politicians have to answer to us.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 34 weeks ago

Yes Gerald, the UN is really just a store front, so that the gangsters pulling the strings can continue their unlawful activities. No one is policing the police, no one is managing the managers. Its a pity that so many citizens of the world are being poorly abused by the few who have found themselves lucky enough to be pulling the levers of power.

However, my point is this, marching these criminals into a world court and ultimately dispatching of them in one way or another, doesn't resolve anything. Sure it feels good, but what's the point of it, if while we're prosecuting one criminal, 10 more are up and coming because we didn't change the systems that produced the situation?

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 34 weeks ago

Tom, thank you for the telephone number!

Nels, it is important for people who comment on Thom's blog to request or record from the computer to a video disc Lindsey Williams words. He has three discs that last three and one half hours.


or call 888-799-6111

Lindsey Williams has great information to share. His discs are not copyrighted. He wants as many people as possible to see and hear his words. It would be my guess that these discs are free.

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 34 weeks ago

Tom, thank you for the telephone number!

Please call the 888-799-6111 number for more information. Ordering through the mail may cost some money. I was led to believe that people could record the discs without a charge.

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 34 weeks ago

Nels, you need to view and hear Lindsey Williams' discs for some great information.

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 34 weeks ago

As I listened and watched Lindsey Williams, I have five side of notes on lined paper. His discs were a combination of economics, politics, and religion. He stressed that the elite want control, total control over you and me. They want us to be poor financially and to enslave us. He says that the elite can give us everything on earth but they cannot give us salvation. America must repent to be saved. The Bush family is part of the elite group and I believe that is why Jeb Bush will be elected president in 2012. According Lindsey Williams Americans have two years to bring back our country and prevent our enslavement.

Rick in Canadia (not verified) 10 years 34 weeks ago

RE the Bonus and stock option system;

A modest proposal;
Everybody not cashing in would love to see the exorbitant bonus and stock option windfalls taxed, but to effectively jump on all the abuse is not going to be practical even if 'the powers that still think they be' would allow it.

I think it could be done by examining the various sources of payment and treating them differently in the tax system.
Yes, there would be screaming and crying, but this might be a fair way to do something;
It is reasonable for capital gains to be treated differently from earned income.
Businesses are given breaks on business expenses and that's fine to encourage growth etc.

The system of big bonus payments and stock options is not strictly speaking tax evasion, it is tax avoidance; a legal use of the rules to minimize tax paid.

I would propose treating profits from stock options, mainly when they are bought and flipped for the quick cashing-in, differently from the capital gains from a long term investment or property.
Perhaps the tax could be less if a CEO has enough confidence to actually buy that stock and watch it go up in value.
I would even take it to the difference between dividend cheques and the increase in your house price..

I'm not sure how a bonus is treated vs normal earned income. One way or the other, there needs to be a reasonable upper marginal tax rate.

Finally, the word 'MARGINAL' needs to be used and continuously explained on air so more people actually realize that we are talking about tax that only applies to the very top portion of huge incomes.
I am sure a large proportion of the public, Fox or non-Fox News, hears 60% tax rate and yells out.. 'that only leaves me 40%!'.. We need charts to show what 60% of the $20k over the $250K threshold would really be..

Anyways, what about different treatment of diferent forms of capital gains?

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 34 weeks ago

Control, Manipulation, and Power

I had a chance to review the video discs by Lindsey Williams. Here are some of the highlights from his discs.

There is a group of people who do control our world. The American dollar will collapse. Inflation will increase in two years. Gold and silver are the only money that matters. War is planned after two years. The name of the game is control, manipulation, and power. Not everything is about money!

The elite are not divine. The elite are laughing at stupid Americans. The elite are the devil’s messiahs. The elite are trying to remove our God to control Americans. The original purpose of education was to teach us how to read so we can read the Bible. Today, the purpose of education is to be patriotic Americans in order to pay our taxes.

Where do we want our rewards? Do we want our rewards to come from God or from the American government?

The elite want to set up a New World Order. We will all work for the American government. America is in trouble. We will be poor by inflation, deflation, and slavery.

The American taxpayer gave the elite $2.5 trillion and in return the elite gave us a $9 trillion deficit. A JOB means Just Over Broke! The collapse of the American dollar and inflation will be gradual. ALL ORIGINAL WEALTH COMES FROM THE GROUND!!! Gold and silver come from the ground. Money for the elite is gold and silver. Paper money means nothing to the elite. The elite’s plans are by intentional design.

In the U.S. Constitution there are not the words, separation of church and state. The current standard of currency for the world is crude oil and the American dollar. The American dollar is being phased out as a viable currency. The world is dumping the American dollar. Our politicians have betrayed us. The Bush family is an oil family and they are part of the elite.

The American dollar is worthless and it will collapse the world economy. In two years America will be bankrupt, inflation will rise, salaries are slashed, and soup lines will be here but will the soup lines have any soup. Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God! – Thomas Jefferson!

There will be war throughout through out the world in two years. Everyone will be working for the American government. Gasoline will be $10 per gallon. We have no job in America. The elite have moved all of our jobs out of our country. 501C3 binds the pastors from speaking out against our country’s policies and practices. Churches, today, do not have pastors with courage. Only Divine Intervention can save America!

The elite do have ethics and they must reveal to us what they intend to do. This revelation is subtle. The elite do not have salvation. They have a god and their god is of this world and his name is Lucifer. The mouthpiece for the elite is the national media.

The elite want only nine mega-banks. The elite are vicious people. Watch for the bank takeovers! Watch for the number of bankruptcies! Do we have access to our safety deposit boxes? Watch the movies Hollywood produces! Do these movies glorify violence and war? Watch the pace of inflation! At the end we will see a limit on how much money we can take out of the bank.

Here are the control measures to enslave Americans banking or the control of our pocketbooks, health care, the Patriot Act, Youth Corp or the SS Brownshirts, mandatory service in society for adults, gun control, travel restrictions, and media restrictions.

The elite do not act the part of criminals. The elite leave the impression of being responsible and respected people.


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