Daily Topics - Friday - March 26th 2010


"Brunch With Bernie" Sen. Bernie Sanders

Plus...Geeky Science Rocks - your mouth has a sweet tooth, but so does another part of you...do you know what it is?


Nels (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

Special thanks to Senator Sanders for all his hard work and contributions to the Health Care (Insurance) Reform.

THANK YOU!!! Senator!!! (you rock)

Rick in Canadia (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

Breaking news;
The magic bullet took a sharp turn, to the left of course, and burned a backwards ‘B’ in Eric Cantor’s forehead..

Mark K (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

I recall that “SNW” told us recently that she had been “demeaned and demoralized” by a half-dozen surgeons in the course of trying to receive treatment for an ACL—their alleged refusal to provide her the treatment she wished due to “deliberate and willful discrimination” to prevent her from practicing her profession. She went on to say that it was 15 months before she found a “respectful and compassionate” doctor to treat her. Well, alright. But the way she ran on yesterday in one of her posts I kept thinking of Chrissie Brodigan, who writes for the Huffington Post, and who last year made “headlines” in the NY Post after an incident in the city subway, in which she was told by police that her 15-pound dog was supposed to be toted in a carrier when traveling on the subway. She was given an empathetic ear on Ron Reagan’s show, but she became somewhat discombobulated when Reagan became too inquisitive for comfort. She was obliged to confess that she had let loose a torrent of four-letter abuse on the officers—as well as an anti-Semitic slur (not surprising, given the anti-Israel slant of the Huffington Post) which strangely enough led to her arrest; I rather suspect that if “SNW” was honest, maybe she was the one who needed to “calm down”—if in fact she was providing semi-factual information and not making a racist “point” herself. I have seen and heard (and experienced) quite enough prejudice without having to meekly tolerate people justifying it in themselves.

Frankly I don’t know why they replaced Reagan with Norman Goldman on the local station, because Goldman sounds like a carbon copy of Ed Schultz, and Reagan offered a “liberal” perspective on various cultural topics of the day, which was a useful change-of-pace.

Mark K (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

Anyways, an analysis by David Leonhardt of the New York Times is declaring that the health care bill is the “federal government’s biggest attack on economic inequality” since it began to rise markedly due in large part by the policies of Ronald Reagan and his successors. An accompanying graph showed how the income of the richest Americans rose nearly 400 fold since 1980, while the median rose only 12 percent, with the most dramatic income disparities taking place during the Bush II years. At the same time, the tax rates for the rich have fallen further than the lower income bracket. This health care legislation will in effect reverse certain trends. New taxes on the wealthiest Americans, benefits that will flow to the lower income brackets instead of the higher, and the promise of affordable health care while reducing economic hardship due to lack of insurance means that the “age of Reagan” may be coming to a close.

Charles in OH (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

So, Dems receive death threats, faxes of nooses, bricks thrown through windows, gas lines cut at family member's home and the Repubs chalk it up to public discourse. Never mind that Republican members of Congress have surmised the doom of the republic. Ignore the man with the blow-horn spinning a yarn about Guv'mint putting Grandma to death. Overlook the woman at the podium encouraging the obliteration of the "enemy". These are not isolated incidents carried out by a few rogue scoundrels. No, these are the acts of outlaws being incited by jackals hell-bent on serving up the poor and middle-class to the capitalist elites.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

I hope Senator Sanders is successful at getting the States the ability to create their own single payer health care systems by 2014. I doubt that the provision will be survive to 2017. Too much chance that the Corporations will install all the subservient politicians they want by then (so long as nothing is done about Citizens United).

Charles in OH (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

I am amused by the Repubs examples of "see we are being threatened too."

Cantor takes a freak accident (probably somebody celebrating healthcare passage) and conflates it into an attack on his office. Maybe it was fired from one of those black helicopters.

And, "Mean" Jean Schmidt releases a "threatening" voicemail. The caller was clearly upset and used profanity. The caller suggested the Republican Party change its name, hardly a threat.

What I am not amused by is the cable media giving these "examples" equal billing to actual threats and acts.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

So what will be the next big push? Immigration Reform or Wall Street Regulation? or are both going to be worked on concurrently?

I personally think the best strategy would be to tackle Wall Street Regulation, if they can pass credible reform before the end of October, I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans actually lose more seats. Then Immigration Reform can be moved forward without giving Republicans the advantage of playing to their racist base at the mid term election in regards to immigration.

moonbat666 (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

@Mark. Norman Goldman started his radio career filling in for Ed. He also has a legal perspective that I find quite informative. The show is not exactly a carbon copy.

Rick in Canadia (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

Aren't you going to be going back to the polls with the misbegotten twins; unlimited corporate money courtesy of your Supreme Board of Directors, and the same corporate-controlled voting machines?
The right is going to use anything else to grab attention; what about trying to get control of your voting system?

Up here we use paper ballots that can be re-counted, and still get our results back that night.

moonbat666 (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

Bernie, does Michele Bachmann's firing up the crowds and telling her constiuents that she wants them armed and dangerous rise to sedition?

Nels (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

Senator Sanders makes a great point, pushing for alternative energy would be a wonderful tack to take now. Would be awesome to see a lot of ribbon cutting ceremonies on Solar Plants and Wind Generating plants, or at least the announcement of hundreds of sites that are being studied for environmental effects of building such power plants on these sites.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

@Rick, nothing would please me more than seeing our voting system improved, and I think that should be worked on regardless of the big push. Ballot reform and instant runoff voting is just necessary.

However, I'm talking about what's the next battle that can draw out the Republicans and show them for what they are. I doubt many of them will stick their neck out much to fight fair elections, and unfortunately most Americans don't seem to care about the voting irregularities, for it to become a big issue.

But I so totally agree with vote reform, and also an amendment that strips Corporations of the status of Human Beings once and for all.

moonbat666 (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

There would be no illegal immigrant problem if there were no illegal hiring of them. Neither the Dems or Repubs really want to address the real problem.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

Maybe filibusters should be limited like time-outs in a football game. You can only make x amount of filibusters per Congressional session. Then parties could still use it, but only when they felt it was absolutely necessary.

KMH (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

Filibuster- why cant we just cap the number of times a senator can call for a filibuster, like in any sports games, where only a certain amount of 'time outs' are called?

KMH (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

@Nels- thx goodness! Looks like we had the same idea at the same time! [I had to take the time to log in- you were already logged in.] :)

KMH (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

Wow- we have really got to hand it to the Democrats, really, and of course Progressive Radio and ourselves! The world really IS changing.

BTW- Money Bomb tomorrow for Alan Grayson-

Alan Grayson is the first Democrat to represent Orlando in 34 years. He’s in the crosshairs of the insurance and Wall Street lobbyists. Please join me in supporting his March 27th money bomb. Pledge $35, $50 or more now at CongressmanWithGuts.com

Nels (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

@Rick I also had this thought on the way in to work this morning. The Democratic party and supporters need to put out just one simple message over and over:

"Vote Republican, the Banksters and Corporate America are depending on you!"

Past it on Billboards in and near every Republican dominated district, and in areas hardest hit by home foreclosures, see how much money it takes for Corporate America to spin that message.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

@KMH, well if we both thought of the same thing, then I would say there is some merit to the idea. Great minds think alike and all that ;-)

KMH (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

ha! very good- and not to change the subject but the President is all out there so proud of his nuclear arms reductions - this idea was unleashed on the net, and I must confer, "when will we realise, especially given all the innovative clean renewable energy technologies available inlcuding solar thermal, that nuclear power plants are really just a way to hide the proliferation of nuclear arms science. The technology to enrich nuclear material continues to advance. Recently, a known terrorist was found to be working at a nuclear power plant. "

Song When will they ever learn, when will they ever....learn.- Where have all the flowers gone.

Mark K (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

For free-for-all Friday, I want to talk about how one afternoon last week I walked into the break room at work, and I observed something very much amiss: soccer was on the television screen, and not an NCAA basketball tournament game. My immediate reaction was “Why are we watching this garbage???” Somewhere from a back room I heard someone say “You tell them, Mark.” It seems that we have a sizable minority of employees who are European and African immigrants for whom soccer is their sport of preference. I have to admit that one must be careful in discussing the relative merits of soccer and basketball, given that soccer fans tend to be rather more “emotional” about their sport. Nevertheless, I thought it was somewhat rude for someone to switch the channel from basketball to soccer without asking anyone. Since the pro-basketball element seemed reticent, I went on to say that this was America, and Americans (mostly) didn’t give a damn about such a simple-minded sport like soccer. This managed to persuade one person to brave turning the channel to the basketball game, an action which immediately led to one soccer fanatic leaping to his feet and express his extreme displeasure. A brief argument later the television was turned off—until enough soccer fans left the room to make it safe to turn the basketball game back on.

I have this theory why Americans are less fanatical about soccer than other nationalities. Americans are individualists, they’re not “team players” by nature. When a kid dreams of being a football, baseball or basketball player, he or she is not dreaming about being a “team player.” They’re dreaming about individual achievements: hitting 50 homeruns, scoring 30 points or running for 2,000 yards. The coach might preach “team,” but the individual is thinking what he or she can do to stand out above the rest. That is why players and fans are so fascinated with the multitude of statistics that defines American sports. Now, in the case of soccer, it is very difficult to quantify what being a “star” is. Hardly any “points” are scored. “Bend it like Beckham?” What the hell does that mean? There can be little else than winning for queen and country (or mayor and city) to motivate a soccer player. Maybe during the Olympics Americans have some sense of national togetherness, but in the professional world, it’s the big individual numbers that earn you the big paycheck. I would also conjecture that this lack of team spirit is pervasive in the real world, perhaps more so on the right than the left.

KMH (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

@Nels- too bad we did not get the question down soon enough for Thom to pass that onto Bernie-- and I could not hear Bernie as he spoke because that sound muffled on the speaker I was listening through, so then I thought, oh heck someone else surely will think of this and I need not log in....

Rick in Canadia (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

Good, now the spin would be; 'anti-business'.. communist, vegitario-fascist.. etc. etc.. The 'demonization of the insurance companies was well done and justly deserved. If the Repugs run on re-instating all that it would be great.

One question there; after things like the 85% benefit rule etc. come into effect, do you expect a year later to see court cases from the Insurance companies trying to recoup their 'losses'?
The Supreme Board of Directors would probably rule with them..
Good luck,

KMH (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

Mike Vanderbo - really, you have got to hear the Alan Colmes podcast on the Vanderbo interview. It is CREEPY. Alan did a great job with him, too, Alan did draw out the guys take on the SSI and Disability. Mikes first response was that it was hard to live on so little, then he went into some bizzare spin on how well he has already paid for it, so he deserves it. Alan said, yes, and so dont you think others deserve it too. REally, worth tracking down and listening too, really creepy. This was day before yesterday.

KMH (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

I have replaced my Obama sign with Buy American - that really stumps them and no more road rage incidents- yes, I had about 3 of them in this redneck city. Democrats should stop taking California for granted, the inland cities are all Rush Limbaugh territory. We are doing what we can, but it gets scary here, really.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

@Rick, I live in California, when any threat to removing or limiting Insurance Companies stranglehold on car insurance would send the Insurance companies running to the Courthouse. And whenever court cases were decided against them, they would appeal and basically ignore the ruling as best they could.

So I don't even think the Insurance Companies will wait. In fact I'm quite certain their the ones behind so many state general attorney's pledging to bring cases.

KMH (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

I actually wrote the Whitehouse this morning and told them they have some culpability in the violence because they are not getting the word out about what is in the health insurance reform bill. If I do not need to see one more piece of footage of some braggidosio politician's talking head in lieu of a one page official document summarizing what is in the bill for the average American.

Marion Delgado (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

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Mark K (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

A few months ago when I turned on the radio to listen to Ron Reagan's show, which for me is No.2 behind Thom's show, I heard this voice talking and I thought "You mean they're airing 6 hours of Ed now??" That's probably why he was such a convenient fill-in for Ed. I still find it hard to distinguish them--in fact they're both lawyers. I still say that it is kind of dull to have both on back-to-back.

And we would solve the illegal immigration "problem" if we had a workable work visa program and not one based on xenophobia. I have already wrote about the problems here in Washington concerning apple producers after they were forced to fire most of their labor force because the feds gave them a list of people they employed with questionable credentials. Who are they going to replace them with except more people with "questionable" credentials? And they ask do we want our produce imported from China or in-country? They point out that it is impossible to get a white person to do the work without making impossible demands. People don't seem to want to ask or answer those questions. We need a work visa program that is much less expensive and onerous for employers who demonstrate a need for workers willing to do the work wherever they come from, and makes it more likely that those workers will leave the country when the work is done.

Mark K (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

Sorry, I was referring to Norman Goldman in the above post.

rewinn (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

I'd like to ask every candidate for public office if they call for the swift arrest and (upon conviction) lengthy imprisonment for anyone who smashes windows.

So far, Mr. Cantor says he "does not condone" it but he has not called for his supporters to be arrested.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

Re Violent Right Wingers: Fear breeds hate, their scared little a-holes, and now they're acting on hate. Let them spend their energy throwing bricks and running, like spoiled children you just need to let them wear themselves out so they can go back to sleep.

We still have nothing to fear but fear itself. Well that and ignorant gun toting reactionaries screaming at your bumper sticker.

brian a.hayes (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

its time to push the debate on where have our american jobs gone. to talk about what the so called milton freidmans free trade has taken america. is it a better world where each country protects it commerce.

Rick in Canadia (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

So, if this big brave road raging right-winger gets thrown in jail, I wonder if his viewpoint on same sex marriage will change when he becomes the same sex spouse of a big white supremacist as the only way to stay alive..

KMH (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

NEXT Al Gore's group is asking for signatures to turn the nation's economy to clean energy legislation here http://cpaf.repoweramerica.org/page/s/wegotnext

We are really going to have fun wathcing the knaves defend the oil and coal companies

KMH (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

Just thinking, perhaps the term Milton Friedman is too sacred a monument to desecrate in order to get what we want-- maybe we need to start thinking along the lines of new models. Am learning demand-pull theory from Daniel Kammen- Director of Renewable Energy Lab at Berkeley, and aide to President Obama as I understand.

Measuring the role of technology-push and demand-pull in the dynamic development of the semiconductor industry: The case of the global DRAM market
Purchase the full-text article

References and further reading may be available for this article. To view references and further reading you must purchase this article.

Wonjoon Kima, Corresponding Author Contact Information, E-mail The Corresponding Author and Jeong-Dong Leeb, Corresponding Author Contact Information, E-mail The Corresponding Author

aKorea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology

bSeoul National University
Received 1 June 2005;
accepted 1 July 2008.
Available online 11 November 2009.

This paper reexamines and resolves the long dispute over the source of technological innovation by suggesting an integrated technology-push and demand-pull model. We derive an equilibrium model within the framework of differentiated product analysis and explain the dynamic interaction between these two sources of innovation. Based on the empirical analysis of the global DRAM market, we show that the relative importance of technology-push and demand-pull in technological innovation is described by an L-type curve which describes the phenomenon where technology-push is greater than demand-pull in the early stages and then decreases as demand-pull becomes greater. Our finding suggests that the role of supply and demand is different in inducing technological change and their relative importance changes with product development over the technological life cycle; the marginal prices of products are an important factor in determining the principal forces of technological innovation between these two sources.

JEL classification codes: O32, O31

Key words: sources of technological innovation; technology-push; demand-pull; Nash equilibrium of technological innovation; DRAM

Nels (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

@KMH, thanks for the link, went there, signed it, passed it on.

Charles in OH (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago


It snowed in Dayton last night so Al Gore must be wrong.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

Bullet falling from the sky randomly, or is God sending Cantor a message?

Charles in OH (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago


God, maybe. I still think its was a local celebrating healthcare passage.

KMH (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

BTW-- do y'all know that David Fromme was fired from the American Enterprise Insttitute? Did Thom announce this today? Think I heard it on Bill Press.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

@KMH I don't think Thom talked about it, but it was on MSNBC last night.

Anjha (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

Thom, do you have the links to your geeky science news?


Making Progress (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago


The above link is for an hour long Q&A with Joseph Stiglitz where he explains how we got to this point and where we are going from here. He is a pessimist and says it will get worse before it gets better. This is worth a listen because he basically expounds on Thom's Economic point of view. It's Heavy!

Nels (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

@Charles, maybe God celebrates with shooting guns ;-)

KMH (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

hhmmm... more on the demand pull versus push...

The Demand-Pull Supply Chain System

With a push-based supply chain, products are pushed through the channel, from the supplier to production through to the distribution organization to the retailer. The manufacturer establishes orders and production at a level in line with historical ordering patterns from customers. The distribution points forecast orders based on what it believes will sell. When the market doesn’t react as it has in the past, it takes some time for the push-based supply chain to respond to changes in demand, which results in overstocking or bottlenecks and delays (the bullwhip effect), unacceptable service levels and product obsolescence.

In a pull-based supply chain, procurement, production and distribution are demand-driven so that all activity is based on actual customer orders, rather than forecast demand.

The pull demand system controls inventory investment, thus stabilizing supply chain performance, allowing supply chain managers to make rational tradeoffs and decisions regarding supply chain variables and performance.


mstaggerlee (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

@KMH - I think you mean David FRUM ... David Fromme is somebody else.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

I understand that Palin's documentary is budgeted for $1 Mil per episode, not that Palin gets $1 Mil per episode.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 20 weeks ago

Oh God please please please let Palin sign on as a third party canidate!!! Oh pleeeeaaaassssseee!!!!

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