Daily Topics - Wednesday May 5th 2010 - Happy Cinco de Mayo!!

Hour One - U.S. Congressman (D-IL, 4th District) Luis Gutierrez http://luisgutierrez.house.gov Is it possible to build a society that doesn't depend on poverty level wages?

Hour Two - Keith Sadler UAW worker lost his job,
barricaded in his foreclosed home When is America going to revisit FDR's Homeowners Refinancing Act?www.ustream.tv/channel/toledo-foreclosure-defense-league

Plus...Jeremy Scahill www.rebelreports.com Erik Prince says Afghani's are just "barbarians who crawled out of the sewer".

Hour Three - Rep. Brian Baird (D-WA, 3rd District) Should members of Congress be allowed to bet against falling markets??? Really??

Comments

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#1

Happy Cinco de Mayo everybody... and Happy Birthday Karl Marx, you wild and crazy German Philosopher!!

Lets all drink some Pacifico, Revolt and move to a Commune... woo hoo!

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Meet John Doh 9 years 41 weeks ago
#2

Happy Cinco de Mayo!

Here's some great music from La Santa Cecilia

http://www.myspace.com/lasantacecilia/music/playlists

All for songs are worth listening to.

Doh!

harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#3

Feliz Cinco de Mayo a todos mis muchachos! Cerveza para todos!

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#4

I agree in the most part with Congressman Gutierrez, but I think we can go further. More than just pseudo amnesty. Change the function of the Immigration Agency, make it their job to inspect businesses employee rolls, and if they find business that obviously hire immigrants, ensure that they are paying adequate wages. Return the labor dept. back to being an agency that protects and advocates for labor. Drastically reduce the draconian blockades at the borders, we can approve several times more people to come in to our country. Having an implausibly long waiting period to get in legally is just encouraging people to jump the boarder.

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mstaggerlee 9 years 41 weeks ago
#5

As I stated in a late post yesterday, the "crime" of being an illegal immigrant is (in most states) a Class D Misdemeanor - classified right up there with other dangerous crimes as vagrancy and loitering - i. e., a crime of POVERTY. That, in my opinion, is the crime that the right wing seeks to prosecute more often than any other - the crime of living while non-wealthy.

harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#6

re: immigration: here's an idea...let's treat the problem rather than the symptoms. the problem is poverty and repression in Latin America; at least partly due to our international monetary and trade policies, esp. NAFTA. That's more the base of the problem than US employers. Lets do both.

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#7

@mstaggerlee, I believe (as I think Thom points out), that the real issue it businesses wanting (not needing) cheap labor. I truly believe that the first thing to be done is to fine (heavily) organizations that specifically hire immigrants and exploit them. As well as tightening up laws that allow business to transfer their liability of hiring immigrants to the immigrants. I worked for a company that to this day is legally hiring Mexican immigrants that provide false Social Security numbers, if one number they give is listed as illegit, they're allowed to go get another one and try that one. Its perfectly legal for the company to do that, they only need to have records that show that the Social Security number didn't show up as illicit. It BS, management knows exactly who is and isn't legitimate, and they know whose wages they can therefore keep low.

So long as companies are allowed to act so, labor will continue to have boots to their neck. Labor Unions and Immigration Activist better cooperate, because each ones interest overlaps and is tied together.

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mstaggerlee's picture
mstaggerlee 9 years 41 weeks ago
#8

By the way, friends, when Thom says that Bush administration's regulators were "in bed" with the Oil industry, it is becoming pretty apparent that he's NOT speaking colloquially. You can take the phrase quite LITERALLY!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/sex-lies-and-oil-spill...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/11/washington/11royalty.html?_r=4&hp&oref...

mstaggerlee's picture
mstaggerlee 9 years 41 weeks ago
#9

Re: Texas Board of Ed - Getting Thomas Jefferson out of the textbooks won't be their biggest problem. Their real headaches will come when they try to shut down the Jefferson Memorial in DC, and to get his face off of Mount Rushmore. :D :D :D

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#10

@mstaggerlee, they're in bed together, and we're getting screwed. Lube up, here it comes again.

@harry, America is a 1st world country and Mexico (our next door neighbor) is a 3rd world country, there is something awfully wrong with this picture.

re: people don't want to do this job or that job because its demeaning... that's just BS. I don't want to do the job I do day after day, I do it because I need to support my family, eat and have a roof over my head. If I qualify for several jobs, I'll take the job that pays me the most vs working me the hardest. I believe most people would do so too.

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Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#11

The Texas School board are just a bunch of (_)_)'s

mstaggerlee's picture
mstaggerlee 9 years 41 weeks ago
#12

If we're gonna be talking about grammar, here's a slide show from the NYTimes website showing some amusing useage of the English language in Shanghai.

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/05/03/world/asia/20100503_CHINGLIS...

Here's the associated article -

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/03/world/asia/03chinglish.html?src=me&ref...

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#13

Whoa, whoa, whoa, what's this about riots in Greece? I knew Greece was tanking, but on the news break (KTLK LA) they talked about 3 bank workers being killed by being trapped in a bank set afire by protesters against the Government that's trying to prevent bankruptcy. Anyone know more about this story? or is this something that's going to take 5 days of festering before we pay attention to it?

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harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#14

OUTRAGE! Headline..it ought to be the death penalty for eating a minor child!

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/05/05/world/AP-EU-Russia-Cannibals-Sentenced.html?_r=1&ref=news

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#15

BBC report on Greek protest (re: my last post). Getting real crazy over there.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8661385.stm

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harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#16

@Staggerlee: re: oil and sex. Apparently oil and sex do mix after all. Unfortunately, petroleum products erode condoms, so they can still reproduce. Too many gushers.

ELOphan 9 years 41 weeks ago
#17

Thom,

About Keith Sadler that you just had on....

Last January, Marcy Kaptur, the pro-life Democrat that represents Ohio's 9th district that includes the city and suburbs of Toledo, told people on the House floor to become squaters in their own homes until the bank can produce the mortgage in question.

Michael Moore featured her speech in his movie "Capitalism: A Love Story"

Here's the video of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYLLqoVqouU&feature=related

Perhaps you could have Rep. Kaptur on to see what she's doing to help Mr, Sadler.

harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#18

@Maxrot re; TSB: thats the best emoticon ive ever seen...a pair of boobs!

harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#19

@maxrot..can you add nipples?

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#20

@harry your to high up, here's it's neighbor (_))::::::D (add colons as macho insecurity dictates :-) )

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harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#21

@Mstaggerlee re: grammar: the funniest sign I ever saw was an immigrant family's attempt to translate the name of their chinese restaurant into english, and they used a computer translation program. Here's what they named their restaurant in huge letters:

"Translation Error Exception" :D

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#22

@harry, if you like those, how about this one (not directed at anyone here) ,,|,,

(I'm sooo going to get marked offensive for these)

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harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#23

@maxrot: you scamp! perverting me like that...where's the internet police when you need them? oh yeah...you just showed me. :)

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#24

I thought generosity was the opposite of greed, and empathy was the opposite of sociopathy.

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Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#25

@harry, sorry, now your going to have to wash your eyes out with soap.

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harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#26

@Maxrot: re:greed and sociopathy: welcome to the 21st century

harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#27

@maxrot, I usually use Comet. Um....didn't your finger have one too many commas?

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#28

To the caller pointing out the NYC terrorist desire to act upon drones being used in his country. Two wrongs don't make a right, no liberal with half an understanding of their position would support the Military Industrial Complex.... (,,|,, Mr. Caller dumb (_)) )

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gerald's picture
gerald 9 years 41 weeks ago
#29

Conditioning and Modifying Behavior

I want to start by saying that the conservatives are brilliant. Yes, they upset me but they are brilliant. Democrats are stupid. The late Robert Novak said that the Democratic Party is the stupid party.

What makes the conservatives so brilliant? They are conditioning the American psyche to modify their behavior. They use both conditioning and behavior modification. You can modify behavior by repetitive deeds and words. For example, if the conservatives fling enough crap on the wall, some crap will stick. You keep flinging crap and more crap will stick. Conservative tactics are brilliant and we must give them credit for their creativity.

I do a lot of ranting and venting with the hope that some of my rants and vents will be embedded into your brain. I rant and vent with truthful articles and words. The conservatives are effectively changing American behavior by conditioning the American psyche with nonsense.

Make no mistake the conservatives are brilliant.

Americans are on a roller coaster ride with this boom, bubble, bust economy.

If you want to understand how the conservatives are using conditioning, you will need to gain more information from B. F. Skinner’s operant conditioning and the use of behavior modification to shape Americans’ behavior. The conservatives are using reinforcement to shape our behavior. We can deprive people of their needs to shape their behavior. Reinforcement or lack of it will shape behavior.

gerald's picture
gerald 9 years 41 weeks ago
#30

G. K. Chesterton said in the late 1930s that human beings are working for slave wages. We are all slaves.

harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#31

@Gerald..the neo-cons, esp. Karl Rove are brilliant, but even worse is they are amoral and lack ethics; at least outside their circle of friends and family. They;re great at denial and not thinking about the basic rules of life most of us learned in Sunday school. or they think "a rising tide lifts all boats" or some other such slogan.

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#32

@harry, I suppose it has one too many commas, but I don't know what to substitute as a symbol for a thumb... besides I didn't create these emoticons, I'm just recycling. (Being a gamer that goes on MMORP* sites, I get exposed to all sorts of cleaver emoticons)

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*Massive Multi-player Online Role Playing

harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#33

@maxrot: very entertaining, none the less..

Foodfascist's picture
Foodfascist 9 years 41 weeks ago
#34

Wow- good job with 'Jack'- he actually resolved for himself that government was the best way to resolve the matter. Seems like more and more conservatives are calling in.

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#35

@gerald re #29 post, I would have to say I agree with your post almost in its entirety. Your rant doesn't seem so acrimonious this time, far more reasoned and provoking then decrying all of America. However, I would say that the Con's are far more lock step and focused, whereas the left is scattered and busier with infighting then forming a unified message. As group-think goes, yeah the right is more effective, it is one of their strengths (nice to see the T-baggers f that up for them too).

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Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#36

@gerald #31 yep, that seems to sum it up nicely, shhhh behave now, or Master will take away your daily bread ;-)

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gerald's picture
gerald 9 years 41 weeks ago
#37

If you are friend of Kwame, the former Mayor of Detroit, his family needs your help. He was forced to leave his position under federal government pressure.

http://friendsofkwame.com/

gerald's picture
gerald 9 years 41 weeks ago
#38

Kwame needs $1 million to pay for debts. His family must have an elevator that doesn't reach the top.

gerald's picture
gerald 9 years 41 weeks ago
#39

@Maxrot, what makes the conservatives so brilliant is that they have taken operant conditioning to a higher level. This conservative conditioning will be with us until the United States of Hell ceases to exist.

harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#40

@Gerald, I think a big part of their success is the fundamentalist Christians in the party feel they are on a mission from God. Their motivation is eternal salvation; so they're willing to exert the effort to run for school board, etc. make phone calls, pester congresspeople, etc.

gerald's picture
gerald 9 years 41 weeks ago
#41

@Maxrot, I do try to provoke some thought for Thom's listeners.

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#42

@gerald, conservative followers are lemmings, and progressive followers are sheep. Conservatives like to believe they're top dog, and progressives like to believe they're as independent as a cat.

That's why conservatives are easy to command and will obey dutifully... right off the cliff.

And why progressives bleat at the slaughter line, pleading their personal case.

Man is a pack animal, its implausible that we'll shake this instinct. The lunitics are indeed running the asylum... the world 'round.

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NashvilleDave 9 years 41 weeks ago
#43

Quick comment off topic. Thom please take a little time talking about what's happening in Nashville. We've had the worst flood since 1937 and the national media almost completely ignored it. Take a look and see whats happening. We need help! Links below are photos of the devastation.

Thanks!

Dave

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/flooding_in_tennessee.html

http://bit.ly/nashvillefloodphotos

http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23nashvilleflood

harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#44

@Maxrot: you're right. My liberal aunt knitted me a progressive-wool sweater when I was in college. Moths loved it.

harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#45

@Nashville .sorry, Thom rarely has time to read this blog while on air. YOu might try the live chat page.

gerald's picture
gerald 9 years 41 weeks ago
#46

@harry ashburn, you are absolutely right about the fundamentalist Christians and the Republican Party.

@harry ashburn, I see eternal salvation by pursuing a path that emulates Jesus Christ's heart that is filled with love, mercy, and forgiveness. I believe that we are all our brothers' keeper and we need to live by the Golden Rule.

harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#47

@nash but don't tell the chat people about this page.. thanx

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#48

@gerald, I find it's better to provoke thought by offering my own. If I were to try to shove it down their throat, I shouldn't be surprised to find it regurgitated and myself, as a result, avoided.

"A teaspoon of sugar helps the medicine go down" - Mary Poppins (wow I got to quote Mary Poppins today, how cool is that ;-) )

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Gene Savory 9 years 41 weeks ago
#49

The trouble with mad bombers is that anger makes them stupid.

harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#50

@Gerald; me too, i took to heart the first things i learned in sunday school. whether or not salvation is involved, I just see it as the most humanistic path.

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