Daily Topics - Tuesday June 22nd, 2010
By shawnt56
Hour One: If we deport 1 liberal for every illegal alien...how many conservatives can we deport for each barrel of oil spilled in the Gulf? Thom challenges Congressman Steve King (R-IA) http://steveking.house.go; Plus, Is what Fox News says true...that the Gulf efforts are failing because of beaurocracy? Congressman Brian Baird has the latest from the Gulf Coast http://baird.house.gov
Hour Two: Do we the people allow rich people to incorporate to serve society or to serve rich people? Thom has a rumble with conservative Carrie Lukas of the Independent Women's Forum www.iwf.org
Hour Three: Should gonzo porn be regulated by the Feds? Thom talks to internet safety expert Donna Rice Huges of Enough is Enough www.internetsafety101.org; And, Aden Fine, staff attorney for the ACLU will be here www.aclu.org
Comments
#2
Holy Smokes-
Check out this new film about transitioning to clean energy- with Hermann Scheer in it!
http://www.naturallifenetwork.com/news_detail.cfm?news=100
Hermann gets virtually NO media here in the US. Please consider having him on the Thom Hartmann show.
#3
Rep. King needs to learn that Man created God in his own image.
#4
I'm getting tired of hearing Americans talking about how corrupt other Governments are. Is Karzai corrupt? Is his brother involved in the drug trade? No more than the Government that installed him.
Even if our so called representitives actually represented our interests - the structure of our bicameral legislature precludes the will of the people ever being enacted. One state, two senators no matter the size of the population.
#5
Re General McCrystal;
The latest rumour is that General McChrystal won't come back in to the White House, and they are sending Martin Sheen up the river to get him...
Maybe Charlie Sheen..
".. ceiling fan overhead.. 'Kandahar.. ****'.."
The Horror...
Rick
#6
Ultra-Sheen
#7
I, gerald, president has cajones and I say we are leaving Afghanistan!!! It takes cajones to lead!!! Obama will not be re-elected in 2012 and so he should do at least one thing right and that is to leave Afghnistan. Just leave and pull up the cajones with both hands as we leave Afghanistan.
Thom, here is a thought. After your town hall meetings with Bernie on Friday you should have Louise co-host your radio show from 1-3PM or 1-2PM or 2-3PM.
Lock up the employers for hiring illegal aliens!!!
#8
Lot and Sodom and Gomorrha
The United States reminds me of Sodom and Gomorrha. Lot was chosen by God to take his family and leave the city and to not look back. God was about to destroy the city. Lot asked God to spare the city. He said to God if the angels could find maybe100 good people to spare the city. The angels went out and they could not find 100 (I do not recall the actual numbers.) good people in order to spare the city. Lot asked to the Lord to have the angels find 50 good people to spare the city. The angels could not find 50 good people. Lot, again, asked the Lord to find 20 good people to spare the city. The angels could not find 20 good people.
The United States has many good people dwindling to a precious few because the majority of the people have accepted the devil as their lord and master. The majority of the people have accepted political debauchery and political prostitution. The majority of Americans hate and they delight in killing and torture. There is a growing depraved indifference toward human beings and their welfare in America.
Karl Schwarz says that the Bush family as other American families is inhuman and inhumane. Americans are becoming inhuman and inhumane and they have chosen to be the devil’s disciples. The angels are looking to find enough good people so God could spare America but as Sodom and Gomorrha the good people are dwindling down to a number that will not be able to save America from God’s destruction.
May God in His judgment still have mercy on our souls!!!
#9
Thank you Thom for calling Bush II an idiot!!!!!
#10
A weak, helpless, and impotent presidency!
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/06/21/obama/index.html?source=newsletter
#11
Brilliant! - let the Bush Deficits Expire-
#12
Compared to?
Beats stupid, useless and illigitimate..
And President Palin would be doing what?
A lack of reactionary blustering is not impotence. It is control backed by thought.
Come on.
Rick
#13
@Foodfascist, I second your comment!!!
#14
BP is a corporate felon, but it's dependents (empoyees) want it to go back to doing the same thing that it was doing when it was convicted... MORE DEEPWATER DRILLING ! I am sorry, but we don't release INDIVIDUAL felons just because they are the breadwinners for THEIR dependents.
#15
Palin would be blaming Clinton...
#16
or Carter.
#17
any .com site can be setup to route automatically to another site (say .xxx) in fact any site can be setup to automatically route to another site. It doesn't cost any thing to create the link, or re-route, so no one has to give up their domain name (.com name), they just have to setup the link.
N
#18
Pornographers on the web want what every other business on the web wants... Money. When it comes down to it, Thom's suggestion of creating an age verifying domain group is workable.
N
#19
ooh- ask Adam about Crush Videos-
#20
@Maxrot- through eye ball signature?
#21
Palin would be blaming President Bartlet but she would still send him to Afghanistan after General McChrystal-Kurtz..
#22
Yeah, wonder what would the general's opinion of President Palin be?
#23
Breaking- Russian Battleship docking at San Francsico - last here 1863 to support the unions- green960.com
#24
How About 'a good on you' to all the food activists who won this re GMOs/
High Court Delivers Ruling that Leaves Ban on Planting of Roundup Ready Alfalfa in Place in First-Ever Case on a Genetically-Engineered Crop
The United States Supreme Court announced its decision today in Monsanto v. Geerston Farms, the first genetically modified crop case ever brought before the Supreme Court. Although the High Court decision reverses parts of the lower courts’ rulings, the judgment holds that the ban on planting Roundup Ready Alfalfa still stands until and unless future deregulation by the Agency occurs. This is a major victory for the Center for Food Safety and the Farmers and Consumers it represents!
In the majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito, the Court held: “In sum…the vacatur of APHIS’s deregulation decision means that virtually no RRA (Roundup Ready Alfalfa) can be grown or sold until such time as a new deregulation decision is in place, and we also know that any party aggrieved by a hypothetical future deregulation decision will have ample opportunity to challenge it, and to seek appropriate preliminary relief, if and when such a decision is made.” (Opinion at p. 22).
The Court also held that:
- Any further attempt to commercialize RRA even in part may require an EIS subject to legal challenge.
- The Court further recognized that the threat of transgenic contamination is harmful and onerous to organic and conventional farmers and that the injury allows them to challenge future biotech crop commercializations in court.
USDA indicated at the Supreme Court argument that full deregulation is about a year away and that they will not pursue a partial deregulation in the interim. Any new attempt at deregulation in full or part will still be subject to legal challenge.
Many of you may have read press this morning reporting that the 7-1 decision announced by the Supreme Court today went entirely in Monsanto's favor. Not to our surprise, Monsanto’s PR machine is working hard to overpower the truth in today's decision in the first-ever Supreme Court case on genetically engineered crops (Monsanto Co. v. Geertson Seed Farms). While the decision is complicated, this Court opinion is in many ways a victory for CFS and a defeat against Monsanto—especially given that it is still illegal to sell or plant GMO alfalfa.
CFS’s Executive Director, Andrew Kimbrell authored an article in today's Huffington Post to help clarify the legal ramifications of the decision. Grist also has a good piece outlining the decision, as does Eco Centric.
Despite what Monsanto is claiming—and what many mainstream media outlets reported earlier this morning—today’s ruling isn’t even close to the victory they were hoping for. Generally speaking, Monsanto asked the Supreme Court to rule on three main issues: (1) to lift the injunction on GMO alfalfa; (2) to allow the planting and sale of GMO alfalfa; (3) to rule that contamination from GMO crops not be considered irreparable harm.
In fact, the court only ruled on the first request which it did affirm by stating that the injunction was overly broad and should be overturned. However, the Court ruled in CFS's favor on the other two issues, which in many ways are more important as the fact remains that the planting and sale of GMO alfalfa remains illegal. The Supreme Court ruled that an injunction against planting was simply unnecessary since, under lower courts’ rulings, Roundup Ready Alfalfa became a regulated item and illegal to plant. In other words, the injunction was “overkill’ because our victory in lower federal court determined that USDA violated the National Environmental Protection Act and other environmental laws when it approved Roundup Ready alfalfa. The court felt that voiding the USDA’s decision to make the crop legally available for sale was enough.
The Center is victorious in this case in several other ways: most importantly, the High Court did not rule on several arguments presented by Monsanto about the application of federal environmental law. As a result, the Court did not make any ruling that could have been hurtful to National Environmental Policy Act or any other environmental laws. In addition, the Court opinion supported the Center’s argument that gene flow is a serious environmental and economic threat. This means that genetic contamination from GMOs can still be considered harm under the law, both from an environmental and economic perspective, another huge victory for CFS.
We could not have gone all the way to the Supreme Court without your support—thank you! Your letters, phone calls and donations have been invaluable in the efforts to ban GE alfalfa. We will keep you updated on any Agency attempts to deregulate GE alfalfa and on the ongoing EIS process. In the meantime, if you have not already done so, please take a moment to contact your Congressional representatives and ask them to sign the “Dear Colleague” letter circulating in the U.S. House and Senate urging USDA to ban GE alfalfa.
Further background information on the history of this case and scientific studies are available at http://truefoodnow.org/publications/supreme-court-briefs/. Today’s press release can be found here: http://truefoodnow.org/2010/06/21/supreme-court-ruling-in-monsanto-case-is-victory-for-center-for-food-safety-farmers/#more-1217, and The Supreme Court decision can be viewed here: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/09pdf/09-475.pdf
#25
Actually, if you setup an administration account that you only have the password to, and then setup your firewall to only allow specific websites through, you can pretty much limit your internet on the computer. If you're kid is smart enough how to get around that, then I would say they're also smart enough (and knowledgeable) enough to interpret the porn sites they can view after that.
But this is just a red herring, this is avoiding the 500lb gorilla in the room, and that's censoring the Internet as well as the beginnings of privatizing it. If your 10 year old needs a phone, or is being left home alone, you've got bigger problems than what they're looking at on the Internet.
No one seems to care that these same kids can what all sorts of war footage, and other violent content. It's a hypocritical argument as far as I'm concerned
N
#26
wow! that's so weird..the MSM makes it seem gm alfalfa is now allowed.
#27
**Reflection of the Week** "For us Christians, the life in Christ has to be the starting point and inspiration of social action, not the ideology of left or right, nor a merely intellectualized, sophisticated understanding of the social , political, economic implications of Christian faith. That is not enough. We have to ask ourselves whether we are really in love with God and our neighbor and whether our commitment flows from compassion and love more than our ideological comfort zones and passing social trends and bandwagons." Allan Figueroa Deck, SJ, Director of the Secretariat of Cultural Diversity in the Church of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, from his keynote address at the Catholic Social Ministries Gathering in Washington, DC, February 7-10, 2010.
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Thom Hartmann Show! Please consider having this guest on- Alan Colmes had a leader from there on and this is the Christian block recruting Christians to take care of the Environment. The fellow on was named Mitchell Hetchcock- from what I could hear, and do not know the spelling. I belong to no religion but have the spiritual new age stuff going - My purpose here is to say how estatic I was to hear this fellow http://creationcare.org/
Perhaps I was really happy because just a few days ago a depressed frustrated individual asked me-what can we do- And I thought, you know, if we could get the Christians on board- we could get them turned around....and if we stopped letting the right tell them that our position was to kill and eat fetuses.....if it doesn't make sense, it is because someone is lying about someone's position- well please check out the site and the interview from the Colmes show last evening.