Daily Topics - Friday July 30th, 2010

"Anything Goes on Townhall Friday!"

Hour One: "Brunch With Bernie" - Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) spends the hour with Thom discussing the issues and answering listener questions www.sanders.senate.gov

Hour Two: The latest on the Arizona immigration law protests - Dr. Mike Newcomb, host of the Mike Newcomb Show on 1480 KPHX in Phoenix www.1480kphx.com


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Gene Savory 9 years 29 weeks ago

I think the Third Amendment is the only one in the Bill of Rights that has not been shredded by people who have sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution of The United States of America.

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Gene Savory 9 years 29 weeks ago

A friend was in the US Army Rangers. He trained dogs used to detect explosives and drugs. He told me that the handler could get a dog to "alert" on amost anything and therefore provide "reasonable" suspicion for a fishing expedition.

I don't recall that a defendent may somehow cross examine an animal. "The dog barked" is a pretty flimsy excuse for "probable" cause.

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buckbuck11 9 years 29 weeks ago

I would like to know how we're going to be able to counteract the avalanche of monopoly money that's going to flood the airwaves with negative ads. Last night there was a whole minute in the middle of the Rachel Maddow Show trying to convince people that if the tax cuts are allowed to lapse, everybody's taxes will be going up. There's also this right-wing think tank called "The Tax Foundation" that's touting a tax calculator on its website (www.mytaxburden.org) that shows your taxes increasing no matter what your income. I just don't know how we will be able to get the message of Republican obstructionism in the Senate out to average folks who just don't pay attention to what happens in Congress.

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buckbuck11 9 years 29 weeks ago

I really hate when callers who like to hear themselves talk waste Sen. Sanders' time. :-/

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stopgap 9 years 29 weeks ago

JUDGES' DECISION RUINS MY CAREER!! Yeah, that's right, my future plans are on hold. Judge Susan Bolton's overruling of the "Papers Please Law" has ruined my career.

I was busily working on a new line of shoes to be approved by Governor Brewer, the Arizona Legislature and California Congressman, Brian Bilbray; that when worn, would assure the safe passage of the wearer throughout Arizona. The shoes were to be marketed under the brand name, "ASS", (Arizona Safety Shoes). The idea being that when stopped by the Sheriff Joe Arpaio, merely show him your ASS, (Arizona Safety Shoes). And you're free to go.

Leave it t Republicans to love putting their feet in their ASS (Arizona Safety Shoes).

Now Congressman Bilbray, Governor Brewer , and conservative supporters of this law throughout the U.S., may never realize their dream to compare and feel the quality of each others ASS, (Arizona Safety Shoes). If Sarah Palin can strut her ASS (Arizona Safety Shoes) for $50,000 a session; then these shoes must be good!

And ASS would be easy to care for. Each pair comes with a special white cloth to wipe clean your Arizona Safety Shoes. True conservatives even prefer to spit shine their ASS.

Now Judge Bolton. See what you've done?

harry ashburn 9 years 29 weeks ago

re: #3:bewared mixed metaphors! How can an avalanche "flood" anything without melting first? I guess we're taking for granted global warming. :)

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louisehartmann 9 years 29 weeks ago

Welcome Buck. We'll check out that site. Thanks for posting about it.

harry ashburn 9 years 29 weeks ago

Re: #5: Best of all, each pair is laced with sarcasm!

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n8chz 9 years 29 weeks ago

I second what the caller is saying, implement a global minimum wage.

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Jeanie 9 years 29 weeks ago

Thom is on a roll. I wish I had that list of all the things the Repubs blocked. Or Thom saying it. It could be the ring on my cellphone.

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Gene Savory 9 years 29 weeks ago

In Michael Moore's Sicko, a group of 9/11 responders went to Cuba to get health care. They couldn't get into Guantanamo where prisoners had health care. I think they ended up in Havana, where the Commie doctors helped.

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Gene Savory 9 years 29 weeks ago

@jeanie #10: How about Boehner yelling, "hell, no, we won't!"? That would get you kicked out of the restaurant.

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Zero G 9 years 29 weeks ago

David Cameron in Turkey the other day also blasted the Israeli blockade of Gaza and the assault on the Gaza Flotilla...

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Zero G 9 years 29 weeks ago

David Cameron: Israeli blockade has turned Gaza Strip into a 'prison camp'

Prime minister intervenes in Middle East dispute and hopes Turkey can stop Iran's nuclear weapons programme

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Gene Savory 9 years 29 weeks ago

There is also a pipeline that runs from Superior, Wisconsin, to Pontiac, Illinois. There is a line that runs parallel to the large supply line that carries light crude north to thin out the heavier oil from Canada. These lines run under some of the best farm land in the world, and I'm worried about the disaster in store for us when the lines leak from abrasive junk or other stresses.

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Gene Savory 9 years 29 weeks ago

How about stopping my uncle because his heavy Polish accent would raise suspicion in AZ?

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camplunalinda 9 years 29 weeks ago

remember Marla Ruzicka --

she proved to lawmakers that the U.S. Military counted civilian deaths --

General Tommy Franks "we don't do body counts" --

20 something CA surfer died 10 days after moving from Afghanistan to Iraq --

her Campaign for Innocent Victims in Conflict --

http://www.civicworldwide.org/ --

thank-you for your consideration --


with so many options -- MM

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Gene Savory 9 years 29 weeks ago

@Thom: An enlightening argument that helps the bemuddled see the economic distress that causes people from poor economies to the US is, "who wants to leave their family, friends, and the land of their anscestors to go to a strange land and risk dying in the process?"

Economic refugees are the same to me as political refugees.

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Zero G 9 years 29 weeks ago

US Grows Isolated on Aggressive War

By Peter Dyer
July 28, 2010

scottgee1 9 years 29 weeks ago

After Thom's conversation with Victoria, I find myself wondering why Bush and Blair aren't on trial at the International Criminal Court in the Hague being forced to explain their actions.

Have accountability and justice been taken completely off the table for the rich and powerful?

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Gene Savory 9 years 29 weeks ago

I remember that Paul Wolfowitz told Congress that the war would pay for itself. He should be dumped into a dungeon somewhere for attempting plunder. Plunder is a known international crime.

harry ashburn 9 years 29 weeks ago

re: #20:Years ago, Bush bought a huge rancho in Paraguay, with whom we have no extradition treaty. The ranch is huge, i.e. 50,000 acres? Tony Blair can stay in the servant house.

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Gene Savory 9 years 29 weeks ago

@Harry: Blair would be more appropriately ensconced in the Dog House.

scottgee1 9 years 29 weeks ago

Thom, even IF people wake up and demand that Sherman and all those other items on your checklist be enforced . . . what can we do?

It's manifestly obvious that the Rethuglicans control the voting process so even if we "get active" that action can be nullified by the companies who run the elections. After watching the Dems roll over yet again after the blatant election fixing done in Alvin Greene mess, I'm certain the crooks will be further emboldened and make sure the people they want to win will win in November and beyond.

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Gene Savory 9 years 29 weeks ago

Prohibition is one of the best ways to turn criminals into billionaires.

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Gene Savory 9 years 29 weeks ago

How can any sane person blame a person whose lifeboat is sinking for trying to get into another lifeboat?

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DRichards 9 years 29 weeks ago

Obama seeks to expand arms exports by trimming approval process

The United States is currently the world biggest weapons supplier — holding 30 per cent of the market — but the Obama administration has begun modifying export control regulations in hopes of enlarging the U.S. market share, according to U.S. officials.

President Barack Obama already has taken the first steps by tucking new language into the Iran sanctions bill signed in early July. His aides are now compiling the "munitions list," which regulates the sale of military items.


Future amo to use against our troops?

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DRichards 9 years 29 weeks ago

What does Russia, Israel & the US have in common?

More than 30 countries have ratified the Convention on Cluster Munitions — the threshold for it entering into force — and over 100 have signed it since 2008. Holdouts include Russia, Israel and the United States. All three of those countries have used cluster bombs in the past decade: Russia during its conflict with Georgia in 2008 (Georgia also used cluster munitions against Russia); Israel during its conflict with Hezbollah in 2006 (Hezbollah also used cluster munitions against Israel); and the U.S. during the initial phases of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. (Neither the Taliban nor Saddam used cluster bombs against U.S. troops.)

Read More http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/07/u-s-ducks-as-cluster-bomb-ban-takes-effect/#ixzz0vC1guKKT

harry ashburn 9 years 29 weeks ago

re: #23, in Spanish, "dog house" is translated as "servant's quarters".

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Gene Savory 9 years 29 weeks ago

Hmmm ... #29:

casa del criado doesn't quite translate to casa de perro.

Tony Blair is more of a lap dog than a servant. Servants have to know stuff.

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pahrumplife 9 years 29 weeks ago

www.pahrumplife.org writes: Just in case the choir has not seen this yet, here is the article and video, showing a question-evading governor, from a good reporter at KPHO Phoenix TV concerning Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) lobbyists apparently tied to AZ Governor Jan Brewer as top advisors.
http://www.kpho.com/news/24362212/detail.html Reply

harry ashburn 9 years 29 weeks ago

re :30: right. I remember Blair's "Im not Bush's lapdog" speech. He then sat down on the stage next to the podium and licked his genitals for several minutes.

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gerald 9 years 29 weeks ago

Dear Thom’s Listeners,

I knew it, I knew it! Thom Hartmann continues to amaze me. One of Americans has four terrorist files – domestic, foreign, humanitarian, and animal trainer. Thom admitted on his radio show, July 29, 2010, that Higgins will attack larger animals. We knew that he attacks human beings. Information on Thom’s terrorist activities keeps piling up.

The FBI can without any subpoena check our internet. They can build any case against average Americans. We must now feel the noose tightening around our necks in our lost freedoms. The America and the American dreams are now shattered forever. We can no longer trust our elected officials and our federal government.

Sincerely, Gerald

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gerald 9 years 29 weeks ago

Ordinary People

I would like to take sometime to write about ordinary people who exhibit extraordinary behaviors. These behaviors from ordinary people offer me not just joy but the possibility of hope for our world.

There are five such people that I will discuss but you and I know that there are more people who also exhibit extraordinary behaviors.

The first person is American soldier, Camilio Mejia, who is in prison because he no longer has the desire to kill people. Camilio did much soul-searching and he made his decision to stop killing people.

The second person is Sergeant Kevin Benderman who went trial on May 9, 2005. I do not know the result of his trial. He served with valor during his first tour of duty but he refused a second tour of duty because he no longer wants to kill people. Kevin also did some soul-searching and he chose not to kill anymore.

The third person is Marla Ruzicka who was killed in Iraq trying to help the Iraqi people. She was a twenty-eight year old beautiful woman who is lost to us. We will never know her true potential and all the good that she would have spread across our world.

Cindy Sheehan is the fourth person. Her son, Casey, was killed in Iraq. Cindy opposes the war in Iraq from the very beginning. She is a parent who would not rationalize about the death of her son. She will not say that Casey died for a just cause in a wrong and an immoral war. She has had the courage to speak out against the war and she is a member of Gold Star Families for Peace.

The fifth person is George Vine. George is a remarkable man. He is a Jew who was in the Nazi concentration camp. He lost family members and friends in the concentration camp. He was asked a question if he hated the Nazis and George said that he did not hate the Nazis. He said that life is too short to hate people. Bush and his evil cabal could learn some lessons from George Vine.

These are five remarkable people who have shown great love for humanity. May God bless all the peacemakers of our world!

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gerald 9 years 29 weeks ago
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gerald 9 years 29 weeks ago

Deaf, dumb, and blind probally summarize the United States of Numb Nuts!!!


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gerald 9 years 29 weeks ago
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WhiteBear 9 years 29 weeks ago

"Lunch with Bernie" and the whole Thom Hartmann "shtick" is getting more than a little tiresome. Thom is clearly protecting the Senator from any real discussion of Obama and the Democrats failure to present and fight for a genuine progressive agenda. We have proof positive from the Wikileaks revelations that the US government is involved in an unwinable, immoral and genocidal war in Afghanistan (not news to me). These revelations are dismissed by the Senator with the lame "We need to find a better way of dealing with the Taliban and international terrorists". End of discussion. On to the next attack on the despicable minority Republicans. And the Democratically controlled congress, like the trained monkeys they are, vote for $Billions more every time the Pentagon demands it. Furthermore, Obama is actively supporting the creation of a surveillance police state (see Washington Post "Top Secret America") by requesting more warrantless spying on Americans, this time their emails. Nothing has changed. It's all for show and in the margins. It's Dubya Redux. The wars and subjugation continue. The Banksters rule and the Pentagon and Militarists continue their insanity. Progressives who fall for this and vote for Democrats are FOOLS.

I can't wait for Thom to rationalize Obama's impending attack on Iran. That should be something.

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gerald 9 years 29 weeks ago

@WhiteBear, I, too, would like to hear Thom's comments on our probable Iran attack. I will include an article in my next comment. Obama is more of a war criminal than Bush II. Try to figure that one out!!!

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gerald 9 years 29 weeks ago

Obama, the mass murderer and war criminal, and our nation's soul is damned for eternity!!!


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gerald 9 years 29 weeks ago

I sense that the United States of Satan's Disciples is wallowing in the darkest pit of hell.

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gerald 9 years 29 weeks ago

If it's not the Jackboots stomping on my face, it's Obama jamming it to me in another BOHICA Day.

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gerald 9 years 29 weeks ago


Moral decisions in and of themselves cannot be considered immoral unless you know proportionality. There are three actions to consider in proportionality, such as intentions, circumstances, and consequences. I cannot judge Bush and Obama but I have perceptual opinions.

Here are my perceptual opinions regarding Bush’s attack and Obama’s policies and practices upon Iraq.

Intention – Bush wanted to make himself look like a big man to his father and to himself. Oil may have also been an intention as well as permanent military bases. Obama’s continuous policies and practices of the Bush administration reveal more clearly that oil is a big factor in our attack of Iraq.

Circumstances – Bush lied to Americans that Iraq was an imminent threat to America’s safety and security. Obama offers more elegance in his lying to the American people. If we do not go into Iraq, they will come here and we will no longer be safe and secure. Do we feel safer and more secure now? The American government controls Americans through fear. Our government will always find a scapegoat to blame and in turn to control our people more and more.

Consequences – Bush’s decisions laid the groundwork for war crimes, mass murders, crimes against humanity, torture, and rape of a foreign land. Americans have their freedoms and rights taken from them through the Patriot Acts. Obama has also embraced the Patriot Acts and the war in Iraq. Both Bush and Obama are war criminals. Obama continues with Bush’s policy of crimes against humanity.

America’s economy is such that the middle class is being dissolved. Contracts are given to boyfriends and Americans do not know where the money is going.

Bush’s attack upon Iraq raises proportionality to a level that his decision to attack Iraq is an immoral act. Obama continues a disproportional attack upon Middle Eastern countries, such as Pakistan and Yemen. Grave eternal consequences are upon these persons and their souls and also with the people and their souls who have agreed with these brutal and inhumane actions upon the Middle Eastern people. Obama’s drone policy is an immoral act with grave consequences.

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gerald 9 years 29 weeks ago

The Legacy

What kind of legacy is the Republican Party leaving our children and our children’s children? A party that was strong on moral issues now supports decadence and sodomy. A party that stood for fiscal responsibility, balanced budgets, and a smaller federal government has spent money like drunken sailors; the budget deficit will be $9.5 trillion by 2014; and under Ronald Reagan and George W Bush, four cabinet positions have been added to the federal budget. These actions are from a party that controls Congress and the Presidency. Where does the Republican Party really stand on any issue? Can we really trust a party that talks with a fork tongue?

The Republican Party stood for privacy and citizen rights and it also stood for states’ rights over federal rights. Let us not forget that the Republican Party also stood for

strong local control over federal control. With the Patriot Act the law of the land citizens no longer have their freedoms and their rights. The Republican Party appears to have gone schizophrenic on many issues. Is the party also willing to sell its soul to all the special interest groups for votes? The Republican Party has left us a sad legacy. All we have now are the memories of a once great party. I ask the party leaders, “Why, oh why, have you forsaken me”.

Let us look carefully at Bush and his legacy. His insensitivity is well documented: he appears to be a psycho; he lies constantly; he permitted 9/11 to happen; invading Iraq was stupidity beyond belief, he is a murderer and a war criminal; he was appointed emperor by fraud; he is lazy; and Katrina reveals the true emperor who is incompetent, inept, clueless, pathetic, useless, and worthless. Bush was even a sorry excuse for a ruler.

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gerald 9 years 29 weeks ago

Oil Spill North!


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