Daily Topics - Friday August 13th, 2010

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gerald 7 years 14 weeks ago

A Reoccurring Nightmare

When the brown shirted Bush was in the White House, I experienced a nightmare. Even though he has been removed from the White House, this nightmare has reoccurred from time to time. Here is my reoccurring nightmare.

Her name was B.J.

My dreams are more like nightmares that I cannot shake. Here is one of my nightmares.

Her actual name was Barbara Jenna Doe. B.J. was an all American young lady – attractive, intelligent, a vibrant personality who made people feel good. She was planning to go to Yale in the fall. B.J. did very well on her SAT and ACT tests. Her summer was planned in preparation to attend Yale in September.

The military draft was reinstated and so the sons and daughters of the poor and the middle class were drafted. B.J. received her letter to report to boot Camp in mid-August. In December B.J. came home for Christmas. Her parents were excited to see her. Daddy had a gleam in his eye every time B.J. was home. Barbara Jenna looked sharp and impressive in her formal military uniform. Her parents were proud of her.

After Christmas B.J. returned to camp and in mid-January B.J. and her company received orders that they were going to attack Iran as part of Bush’s Christmas wish list through more lies. In mid-February her parents received the dreaded letter saying that Barbara Jenna Doe was killed in action. The letter did not reveal how she was killed but friends were able to find out that BJ’s truck hit a land mine. The truck exploded and her one leg went through the window of a nearby building; her one arm slammed against a wall of a building; her torso remained with the truck; and her head went through the windshield of the truck and rolled down the street and stopped at a curb. What a waste of human potential to be killed for the Bush lies.

B.J. was not like one of Bush Sr.’s fourteen grandchildren who have never served in the military services. She was drafted and she had to serve in the military armed services.

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DRichards 7 years 14 weeks ago

Geeky Science

How Brilliant Computer Scientists Solved the Bermuda Triangle Mystery

Natural gas—the kind that heats ovens and boils water—specifically methane, is the culprit behind the mysterious disappearances and loss of water and air craft.

The evidence for this astounding new insight into a mystery that's bedeviled the world is laid out in a research paper published in the American Journal of Physics...

...The methane—normally frozen at great pressure as gas hydrates embedded within subterranean rock—can become dislodged and transform into gaseous bubbles expanding geometrically as they explode upwards. When these bubbles reach the surface of the water they soar into the air, still expanding upwards and outwards.

Any ships caught within the methane mega-bubble immediately lose all buoyancy and sink to the bottom of the ocean. If the bubbles are big enough and possess a high enough density they can also knock aircraft out of the sky with little or no warning. Aircraft falling victim to these methane bubbles will lose their engines-perhaps igniting the methane surrounding them-and immediately lose their lift as well, ending their flights by diving into the ocean and swiftly plummeting


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Gene Savory 7 years 14 weeks ago

Garrison Keillor used the product "left handed men's underwear" in a skit.

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camplunalinda 7 years 14 weeks ago


1+ hour yesterday on the phone with DISH --

after i received an e-mail from DISH --

''we applied your request to remove programming" --

humm -- i didn't request removing FSTV or LINK TV or C-SPAN!?!?! --

my question to DISH "how come #9415, #9410 are no longer even listed as channels offered?" --

working with DISH techs 1+ hours could not pull up those channels --

finally the remove was removed --

OH JOY -- i need my FSTV!!! --

maybe it was a POP-UP that i tried to clear?!?! --

i guess for $15.00 a month i get prompts to remove programming??!!?? --

OH JOY -- i need my FSTV!! -- MM

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camplunalinda 7 years 14 weeks ago

"JOY of JUSTICE" Ralph Nader --

http://www.booktv.org/Watch/11751/In+Depth+Ralph+Nader.aspx --

Lynda A. H. --
Lynda wrote:
"Ralph Nader clears my brain of nonsense" --

thank-you for your consideration --


with so many options -- MM

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camplunalinda 7 years 14 weeks ago

always something --

like soaking in SOAP LAKE today!!

Chief Gorge + tribes took that bath too!!

and throngs from Seattle before the Great Depression --

before the Grand Coulee Dam works diverted the water --

most of the healing water hotels + spas were burnt to the ground --

some "...Super-Rich.." have artfully revived this WA state ghost town --

it is a lush life -- MM

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SoloPocono 7 years 14 weeks ago

Morning Joe and Germany??!!

JUST before I walked into the room to discover I'd forgotten to shut off the TV before that JERK say: "Germany, now THERE's a Country that has it all together." He then went into all the good economic numbers coming out of Germany.

I could only think-My GOD, the Jerk has woken up!! I "thought* too soon.

He followed it by going into a rant about how they did it ALL through "cutting spending, getting rid of needless entitlement programs and Unions"HOW the HELL can this JERK get away with saying that on National TV??!!! I *thought* that was Murdoch's lawsuit that said it was FINE to "Lie" on "Entertainment networks"--WTF does "Morning Joe" promote itself as?? NEWS or entertainment??!!nevermind...I know the answer to that....

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DRichards 7 years 14 weeks ago

Re: Money

No, it's not about money, It's all about greed. It's about an ego so big, that it only thinks about itself.

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Jeanie 7 years 14 weeks ago

Rightwing callers are really nuts. They don't want to pay for "educating other people's kids"? They don't want to pay one cent for anything (although they want every benefit this country offers). How exactly are poor people supposed to pay for education for their kids? Same with health care. If you can't afford it, you don't deserve to have it. That is a terrible attitude. So un-American and so cruel.

(And I wish Thom had asked that last caller how much he was willing to pay someone to cut his grass. His attitude was that they should accept any amount, no matter how small, and he was outraged that they didn't. The same attitude conservatives have toward working people.)

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Jeanie 7 years 14 weeks ago

BaltoJim, he said he was on Sirius.

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Jeanie 7 years 14 weeks ago

Honestly, I'd like to have enough money to not "have" to work either. But if I didn't have to work, I'd be able to volunteer. Because what is the use in being shiftless? Why do conservatives love the shiftless wealthy?

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Maxrot 7 years 14 weeks ago

To the caller (Mike the moron) who wants to live in a million dollar house without working or doing anything to earn it. May I suggest you contact someone like Paris Hilton and ask how she does it. I'm sure the eliminating of the "Death Tax" and minimal Capital Gains taxes will have something to do with it... oh and also having an obscenely wealthy family couldn't hurt. (There's your infamous welfare queen, idgit)


BaltoJim 7 years 14 weeks ago

The caller LIED to you, THOM!

The XM radio channel 167 "America Left" DOES NOT play your show live! They play "The Ed Schultz Show" during that time (12 - 3 p.m. EST). Your show is played on delay from 3 - 6 p.m. EST. I know because I sometimes listen to your show on XM during my drive home from work. Right now, I'm listening to you live via the KTLK web site.

So when you asked the caller if he was listening to you live and he replied that he was listening to you on XM, he LIED!

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Jeanie 7 years 14 weeks ago

Maxrot--someone else who uses the word "idgit". And I had previously felt so alone.

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Maxrot 7 years 14 weeks ago

Its real hard to expect Obama to be less like Bill Clinton when he surrounds himself with so many Clintonites.


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Jeanie 7 years 14 weeks ago

Thom thinks that Obama will get a wake-up call and become more like FDR going forward if the elections turn out bad. But what if instead he goes farther to the right?

BaltoJim 7 years 14 weeks ago

He did? I could have sworn that I heard him say he was listening on America Left, the XM channel (which is a different channel than Sirius Left). I don't doubt you, you may very well be right. I'll check it out when Thom's show comes on XM... ;-)

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Foodfascist 7 years 14 weeks ago

Follow the Dirty Money website- cool! you put in your zip code and then up pops your senators and congressperson and how much money they have taken from the oil industry.

Check it out here: http://dirtyenergymoney.com/index.php

Tyee 7 years 14 weeks ago

Why did John Kerry conceed defeat so quickly?

Remember, he's a Skull & Bones' member, just like W. I would surely assume that this brotherhood would mean more to Kerry than any presidential hopes that he hed. Kerry was an electoral shill, or perhaps patsy, so W could get elected ......Just like when Kerry oversaw the Iran-Contra hearings!



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Jeanie 7 years 14 weeks ago

BaltoJim, I thought he said Sirius and a show with "Left" in the title. But I have been wrong before.

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rladlof 7 years 14 weeks ago

YO! Perhaps it is not how little you offer folk to cut your grass that keeps from giving you the time of day AND folk are not lazy or shiftless if they don't wanta cut your lawn while you berate and belittle them . . .


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Foodfascist 7 years 14 weeks ago

Tom Friedman is a guest of Mayor Johnsons here! Help! How do we get Thom Hartmann to speak here instead!> google greenwise sacramento

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camplunalinda 7 years 14 weeks ago

WIKILEAKS -- the good --

This week, NATO announced uniform guidelines for addressing civilian harm in Afghanistan. This is a major victory for war victims and one we've been working hard to achieve.

thank-you Marla Ruzicka founder of CIVIC --


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camplunalinda 7 years 14 weeks ago

WHEN the Grand Coulee Dam works diverted the water --

most of the healing water hotels + spas burnt to the ground

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Gene Savory 7 years 14 weeks ago

I don't need any farms - I get my food from Jewel.

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louisehartmann 7 years 14 weeks ago

Food - I refer to him at Hannibal Cat....ter...<s>

If it was Higgins - The guy would have been in trunk basting in tuna oil!

harry ashburn 7 years 14 weeks ago

Dear Camplunalinda: re: FSTV: Dish network is evil. Dish network answers to the devil. Dish network had to pay a multi-million $$ class action lawsuit for their phone harassment. Fortunately, they picked on Senator Arlen Spector. Dish network made my life hell for a year and a half 'thou i ve never been a customer. Just 'cause some deadbeat gave them my phone number.

harry ashburn 7 years 14 weeks ago

dish network phoners wouldnt belive I wasnt their deadbeat customer. When I asked to speak to her supervisor, her response was "It wouldnt do you any good."

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Jeanie 7 years 14 weeks ago

"Dish network answers to the devil"

Tell us how you really feel, Harry.

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Jeanie 7 years 14 weeks ago

It sounds like the education of men would also be important. Or enlightenment of men. Because educated/enlightened men wouldn't want their women/wives/daughters to be treated like dirt. Equality also wouldn't hurt.

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Maxrot 7 years 14 weeks ago

@louise, Higgins sounds like my kind of cat.


harry ashburn 7 years 14 weeks ago

re: 35 Jeanie...ya had to be there....

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rladlof 7 years 14 weeks ago

RE: Institutionalized Racism in the Republican Party:

The Republican Party have injunctions against them regarding caging going back to a 1986 dissent decree . . . Heck, the Civil Rights are


Nixon’s much touted “South Strategy” has largely designed as a backlash against the Civil Rights Acts on 1966.



RE: Current Examples of Racism in the Republican Party:


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DRichards 7 years 14 weeks ago

Re: Because educated/enlightened men wouldn't want their women/wives/daughters to be treated like dirt.

Yes, if it were not for the Enlightenment we would all still be living in the Dark Ages.

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rladlof 7 years 14 weeks ago

RE Mr. Jefferson’s Quote for Today:

I love your mind dearly, but chimpanzees, lions, macaws, crocodiles and a multitude of other animals also eat their own . . . Humans just agonize about it.

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DRichards 7 years 14 weeks ago

It seems to me that the Enlightenment was also a breaking away from the Abrahamic religions.

As Joseph Campbell said; (paraphrased) we have taken a Middle Eastern Tribal religion from another place & time, and have tried to make it our own.

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Maxrot 7 years 14 weeks ago

@rladlof, only some humans agonize about it, others relish it.


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Gene Savory 7 years 14 weeks ago

I think Jefferson was referring to the abstract cannibalism, in which we can feed on our kind even across generations.

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pahrumplife 7 years 14 weeks ago

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harry ashburn 7 years 14 weeks ago

re: #46: reminds me of the "Saturday Night Live" skit where a southern surburban family took-in prisoners to make ends meet. THAT reminds me of the skit with Jodie Foster about saving the bees. Prophetic, huh?

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WhiteBear 7 years 14 weeks ago

Sen. Bernie Sanders response to a caller's question about ending the insane Afghanistan war was once again reflexively answered with the Osama Bin Laden 9/11 mythology. Either the Senator knows little beyond the totally unsupportable official conspiracy theory, or that he does know, and for whatever reason, can't and won't discuss it. This event was the genesis of the immoral and genocidal wars and the immense disaster we are all now in. There is nearly a universal code of silence on this subject in almost all media, including Thom's show. No elected official of our government ever says anything beyond what the Senator said much to the detriment of the country and the world.

Trump Is Using Racist White People To Make The Rich Richer

There is this whole mythology that Donald Trump came to power because 53% of white women voted for him, because 66% of white working men who didn't have a college degree voted for him.

That may be, but those are not his constituents. Those are his suckers. Those are his rubes.

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