Daily Topics - Tuesday August 10th, 2010

Quote of the Day: "We have no right to prejudice another in his civil enjoyments because he is of another church." --Thomas Jefferson

Hour One: BP Gulf disaster...what aren't we hearing in the mainstream media? Independent investigative journalist Dahr Jamail will be here www.dahr.org

Hour Two: Do Americans really believe that Obama is a Nazi?! Thom has a rumble with conservative Pam Geller, author of "The Post American Presidency" www.atlasshrugs.com

Hour Three: Net neutrality and the Google/Verizon deal...is it the end of the (world) internet as we know it? Craig Aaron of Free Press will be here www.freepress.net

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rladlof's picture
rladlof 16 years 1 day ago
#1

President Obama is the last Reagan Republican in Washington, D.C. and not a NAZI. I know it may be difficult to distinguish between the two at times . . .

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 16 years 1 day ago
#2

Well maybe 75% of the oil is gone, but 25% of the largest spill in the Gulf is still a sh!t load of oil right.

Of course I ain't buying the oil has pretty much disappeared BS anyway. Republican or Democratic, Government officials prefer to lie instead of talking about an awful truth.

N

stopgap's picture
stopgap 16 years 1 day ago
#3

I ran across of this quote by Bertrand Russell that seems particularly relevant today: "If there were in the world today any large number of people who desired their own happiness more than they desired the unhappiness of others, we could have paradise in a few years."

DRichards's picture
DRichards 16 years 1 day ago
#4

Is Islam a, or the, “religion of peace”?http://www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com/zblog/2010/08/zombie-apocalypse/An interesting article. As noted; if only 10% are "fundamentalist" that still makes one hundred million Muslims who detest our permissive way of life, our lack of an orthodoxy, our equal esteem for women along with men.

DRichards's picture
DRichards 16 years 1 day ago
#5

Do Jefferson's ethics work with those of Jesus?

http://www.jeffersonhour.org/

Also available as an iTunes podcast.

An excellent show regarding the founding of our government as a secular government, where each is free to worship what ever God they choose, or none at all.

DRichards's picture
DRichards 16 years 1 day ago
#6

White House: Some ‘crazy’ liberal critics of Obama ‘need to be drug tested’

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0810/gibbs-crazy-liberal-drug-tested/

Hmmm, ever hear of a republican white house attacking their base?

rladlof's picture
rladlof 16 years 1 day ago
#7

@THOM: Everyone knows that the less-green slimy amphibian who speaks with a constricted throat is . . . well . . . a hypocrite and a serial wife recycler.

DRichards's picture
DRichards 16 years 1 day ago
#8

The Government is Dealing with the Oil Spill Like the Soviets Dealt with Chernobylhttp://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/The U.S. also has a long history of covering up environmental and health disasters, as shown by the following examples.

WendyBluEyez's picture
WendyBluEyez 16 years 1 day ago
#9

Consistent? Yes, they're very consistent in their hypocrisy.

rladlof's picture
rladlof 16 years 1 day ago
#10

I believe that my hardcover copy of Unequal Protection is dated 2002.

quicksilver 16 years 1 day ago
#11

Anchor Babies. If you make kids born here to illegals, non citiziens, it will lead to problems like they have in Turkey and France, where there are generations of people that are not citizens. they have NO stake in the well being of the country. I say, keep them them citizens, but don't grant the parents the right to be here. They still have to go home and the kids can come back when they are 18. Something like that.

Jeanie's picture
Jeanie 16 years 1 day ago
#12

I doubt the Democratic party is going to collapse unless we put even more restrictions on abortion than there already are. (Thom said that in relation to citizenship.) Young people usually can't get them unless their parents allow them; poor people can't because they can't afford them; depending on where you live you can't get one because there's no abortion provider (no abortion provider in something like 85% of counties); you can't have an abortion in most places unless it's in the first 3 months, some after that with lots of restrictions, etc. I think there's quite enough restrictions on abortion currently. And yet desperate females will jump over the many hurdles when they can (and have illegal abortions when they can't) because they know that a forced pregnancy is not what is in their best interest. And anti-abortion stances are almost entirely pushed by rightwing religious people, which makes me even less likely to support their position.

Jeanie's picture
Jeanie 16 years 1 day ago
#14

From the Robert Gibbs clarification above, "Some [Americans] are frustrated that the change we want hasn't come fast enough for many Americans."

This is supposed to suffice for saying that nothing will satisfy us on the left, even electing Dennis K?? I am glad, though, that someone kicked his butt and made him issue his half-hearted apology.

Jeanie's picture
Jeanie 16 years 1 day ago
#15

John Shadegg is a Republican from Arizona. No surprise.

gerald's picture
gerald 16 years 1 day ago
#16

Any man’s death diminishes life. We are born to expand life in men, in animals, and in our environment. - Gerald

We should not pray to be successful; we should pray to be faithful in what we are called to do. – Father Frank

I believe that my calling is to provide operant conditioning to as many persons as possible. I believe that I have been called to condition minds to the fact that the United States of Hell is NOT a good, holy, and saintly nation. - Gerald

gerald's picture
gerald 16 years 1 day ago
#18

The internet must be free. It is our last hope for free speech and an informed America.

Jeanie's picture
Jeanie 16 years 1 day ago
#19

Gerald, that woman’s article was all about the plans we have to attack Iran (similar to the plans we have to attack Canada, just in case), and how it would never work. She ends with, “So there is a plan for an attack on Iran, but [Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff and the highest-ranking American officer] would probably rather resign than put it into action. It is all bluff.”

gerald's picture
gerald 16 years 1 day ago
#21

@Jeanie, the United States has been a culture of violence for most of her history. Bluff or no bluff? Who knows? I believe that we need less heated rhetoric in our language toward Iran. Heated rhetoric can open up a mob mentality.

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 16 years 1 day ago
#22

Net Neutrality, we're arguing Net Neutrality, when we should be screaming for better public control/service in regards to Television and Radio. That's one of the most aggravating issues I have with the left, we wait until we're about to loose something then we very often do too little too late. We should be making such a push to take back what they (corporate America) has already taken from us, they wouldn't have the guts or time to worry about taking more from us because they would be too busy holding on to what they stole. But we don't bother, we often just take it at face value, ending up bad mouthing Fox and CNN, and wondering why MSNBC isn't as left as it makes itself out to be.

N

Gene Savory's picture
Gene Savory 16 years 1 day ago
#23

When I was working on my MS, my advisor told of the development of digital computers. He said, "if we got the correct answer two out of three tries, we considered it a success."

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 16 years 1 day ago
#24

Theoretically the human race will top out at about 9 billion on 2050, and then begin to decline. Our planet is estimated to be able to support up to 12 billion people. However, I don't know how many corporations our planet can survive.

N

DRichards's picture
DRichards 16 years 1 day ago
#25

Re: The difference between Republicans & Democrats.

I think Mr. Robert Gibbs comments illustrate that the "Democrats" are no longer the friend of the Liberal.

quicksilver 16 years 1 day ago
#26

On the corporations, don't worry, we will have one immense corp in every niche to supply all our needs! (snark!)

gerald's picture
gerald 16 years 1 day ago
#27

Sociopathy is alive in the United States of Hell.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/Understanding-and-Healing-by-Fannie-LeFlore-100810-622.html

Please take the time to understand the Project for a New American Century! The goal of this project and Leo Strauss' disciples is to exterminate 6.3 billion human beings on a planet that has 6.8 billion people because planet, Earth, can only sustain 500 million people.

gerald's picture
gerald 16 years 1 day ago
#28

Thom in criticizing the Obama administration was hard for him to do but he has shown growth in knowing our frustrations toward Obama. As for me Obama has not shown leadership!!!

Rick in Canadia's picture
Rick in Canadia 16 years 1 day ago
#30

Proper term for the Bush tax cuts and no estate tax; Billionaire Bailouts..

Bush's bank bailout qualifies too.

Rick

DRichards's picture
DRichards 16 years 1 day ago
#31

Re: If Obama stood up to Royalty, they would crucify him.

I think the same could have been said to Roosevelt. I think that if Obama were to stand up, the people would overwhelmingly stand behind him.

Rick in Canadia's picture
Rick in Canadia 16 years 1 day ago
#32

You are laying a lot on Pres. Obama as well as the Democratic leadership.

He is key to the whole process, but he needs to be backed up; every time I hear Democrats threatening to vote against or not vote for the party or president, I think of the province of Ontario a number of years back.

A relatively progressive Premier (= Governor) Bob Ray, tangled with some unions over contracts etc.. The Unions organized and pulled a lot of votes away from him in the next election.

The result; in came the Conservative party.. boy, they really showed him, didn't they?

Don't cut off your head to spite your butt, even if it's lodged firmly in there..

How about some work on your voting machines before it's too late, again? Tom, any news on that stuff? Also, when do you get to gerrymander things back to a reasonable map?

Good luck,

Rick

janeofdane's picture
janeofdane 16 years 1 day ago
#33

Regarding Gibb's remarks about the professional left,

Well the Obama administration is afraid of white people, http://open.salon.com//blog/rogershuler/2010/08/03/obama_administration_seems_terrified_of_white_people

So there!

pahrumplife's picture
pahrumplife 16 years 1 day ago
#34

www.pahrumplife.org writes re Google: In a way, if they get their way, Google and Verizon will have conquered the world. Corporatocracy (privateers and their enabling governments) will get what they want if they “pay” enough “homage” to the King. Could this be the end of all our favorite URLs? Or could it be the beginning of a technological revolution?

gerald's picture
gerald 16 years 20 hours ago
#35

Who is destroying the dollar?

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=137973

gerald's picture
gerald 16 years 9 hours ago
#36

I have been reluctant to criticize Israel because she is a Jewish state and as a Christian I have Judeo-Christian roots. But, Israel has been on a long path toward genocide of the Arab and Muslim people in the Middle East. Israel is part of the triad of evil that includes America and England. All three nations are evil, vile, and wicked.

http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/focus-u-s-a/focus-u-s-a-will-israel-really-attack-iran-within-a-year-1.307211

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