Daily Topics - Friday November 12th, 2010

Quote of the Day: The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. -- John F. Kennedy

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Hour One: "Brunch With Bernie" - Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) spends the hour with Thom talking about the important issues of the day and taking your calls www.sanders.senate.gov


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j.sea 7 years 1 week ago

Internet Freedom

In the game of Texas two step they will want us hopping wherever they point, which will be immigration (riles the fearful), DADT (riles the hateful), taxes (easy to manipulate that word) -- they will NOT want us to look over our shoulder as Internet Freedom disappears. Those seeking absolute control are absolutely aware that control of internet speeds is control of the people. If they can lock down the internet, the coup is complete.
Support Bernie in his work to prevent this immediately.

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Maxrot 7 years 1 week ago

I'm shocked that the Obama administration is preparing to cave into everything the con's want, and masking their actions as compromise.

Make no mistake, I'm shocked, not surprised that Obama is doing this though. You would think he would at least wait until the lame duck portion of this congress is over before talking about capitulation. Yet once again Obama is acting deluded and noble, conciliatory prior to walking onto the political battleground. What shocks me is that obviously he thinks he's representing the left, and that his base shares this belief. It shocks me that he's that out of touch.


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Gene Savory 7 years 1 week ago

Thom, your use of the pause is very competent.

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ChipT 7 years 1 week ago

Rants of an average middle class American.

I, like most middle class Americans, want to throw out the incumbent. I want to throw out the incumbent economic system. It’s time to throw out Supply Side Economics and return to Demand Side (Keynesian) Economics. Let’s compare the two economic systems. This is best done in terms the average American is familiar with. Let’s start with “trickle down”.

With Supply Side Economics taxes are cut largely for the wealthiest Americans. The theory is the wealthiest Americans will do things that will trickle down this wealth back through the economy to the rest of us. But what actually happens? If you give the wealthy more money they don’t spend it, THEY KEEP IT!!! There’s a surprise, that’s why they’re wealthy.

Now trickle down in Demand Side Economics. In Demand Side Economics the majority of taxes are paid those who can most afford it. The Government takes this wealth and they trickle down the money to middle class. When the government gets money they don’t keep it, THEY SPEND IT!!!

Let’s compare the last thirty years of Supply Side Economics with the thirty plus years of Demand Side Economics from 1946 to the start of Reaganomics.

During the thirty years of Demand Side Economics we grew the largest most successful middle class the world has ever seen. Good paying private sector jobs wore created. Our bridges, roads and dams were as good as any in the world. Family incomes grew virtually at the same rate in all sections of the population. It was a truly American system, equal economic opportunity for everyone.

After thirty years of trickle down economics the middle class is shrinking. Job creation is anemic and the jobs that are created are mostly lower paying jobs. Bridges, roads and dams are falling apart. Our airports and railways are outdated. The average workers pay has stayed flat while CEO pay has increased 300%. There has been a 3 trillion dollar redistribution of wealth from the middle class to wealthiest Americans. Where’s the trickle?

Demand Side Economics benefits everyone. Government Trickle Down, when done well, results in creation of more-skilled workers and more small businesses. In the 50’s hundreds of thousands of private sector jobs were created by the government investment in Eisenhower's Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956. In the 60’s millions of great private sector jobs resulted from the government investment in John F. Kennedy’s Apollo Space Program. This nation lived off the technological and scientific advancements of the Apollo program investment for more than 20 years.

With Demand Side Economics, Government Trickle Down spending can be sent where each dollar will have a high impact on moving America forward. Things like infrastructure, R&D and Education. In contrast, it is hard to see how Supply Side Trickle Down Economics sends the money anywhere. It simply makes the rich richer.

It makes me crazy when Democrats propose letting the Bush tax cuts expire for wealthiest Americans and the Republicans respond that the Democrats are engaging in class warfare and redistribution of wealth. Supply Side Economics is class warfare and over 3 trillion dollars of wealth has already been redistributed. Where’s the outrage with Republican class warfare on the middle class and a massive redistribution of wealth to the richest Americans. It’s time to end class warfare and redistribution of wealth by returning to Demand Side Economics

Demand Side Economics taxes those who can most afford it and invests in America. It gives everybody an equal economic opportunity at the American dream. No matter what the arguments are against returning to demand side economics one thing is for sure. America was better in every way economically before Trickle Down. It’s time to “Restore Sanity” to the U.S. economy.

Chip Travis

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Maxrot 7 years 1 week ago

So where do we focus our efforts to take back our country from corporate domination? Where are they week, where can we stick the lever to pry them out of their position? When are these questions going to be asked, let alone answered on a national scale?


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Erik300 7 years 1 week ago

I heard that the reason longevity is increasing is because of the decreasing death rate of children which boosts the whole population longevity rate.

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rladlof 7 years 1 week ago

NO!!!! President Obama is and always has been a wishy-washy, mediocre, just-right-of-the-center-of-the-road, pro-corporatist/proto-capitalist. His Senate voting record amply pointed this out and America failed to realistically consider the documented facts about him.

WE did this to ourselves.

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Gene Savory 7 years 1 week ago

It seems that Hillary Clinton was correct when she posited that Obama had to offer only a speech he gave in 2002.

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cmoore68 7 years 1 week ago

My senator, George Voinivich, who is retiring at the end of the year is recommending a 25 cent increase in the gasoline tax. How about suspending tax subsidies to oil companies? Either way the price of of gasoline will go up, but at least the taxes I currently pay can be used for something more worthwhile like alternative energy.

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Gene Savory 7 years 1 week ago

A great comment on the Bush comic book: "I'll read it after he reads it."

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ottomine 7 years 1 week ago

We got in on the end of Thom speaking of a U.S. government offical telling a foreign offical his intent tod get rid of President Obama. Who was the official? Thanks

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Maxrot 7 years 1 week ago

Come now rladlof, what choice did the American people have in doing this to themselves. What was the other choice, Clinton, she wouldn't have been much (if any) different in policy. Do we ever get to chose worthy candidates for President? Heck even FDR was a mistake by corporate America, they expected him to act in their favor.

I just can't agree with the statement that its our fault that we chose this, when there was never any choice to begin with. Its like saying I decided to wear gray slacks instead of blue slacks to work today, as though that is some major decision, its not like I'll consider if I should wear blue jeans, shorts, speedos or slacks. The powers that be don't allow me those types of decisions at work, or in the voting box.

I understand your frustration with the DLC, and share it, truely I do, but blaming the victims isn't resolving anything. Somehow, someway changing the underlying functionality of our political system needs to be done, otherwise we will continually be given the choice of a 'Giant Douche' or a 'Turd Sandwhich', sponsored by 'Johnson & Johnson' and 'McDonalds' respectively.


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rladlof 7 years 1 week ago

If deficit-enhancements/welfare-for-the-wealthy work . . . Where are the farging jobs?

The moneyed interests have had happy-ending hand-outs for eight years or so now . . . Where are the farging jobs?

If the wealthy hire folk when they have more money . . . Where are the farging jobs?

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gharlane 7 years 1 week ago

Thom, why are you doing the Republicans' work for them?

You started off the show noting that two NPR "reporters", on two different NPR shows this AM, in their interviews, repeated the egregiously false lying Frank Luntz talking point that supposedly "most Americans are concerned" about whether "all Americans" will get their tax cuts extended. Yet you stated explicitly WOULDN'T NAME THE SHOWS. Well, Sweet Jeebus, why the $#@%! not??? What ethics rules would it violate? What would be wrong with it? Seriously. All that mentioning the show's names on-air would do would be to EMPOWER YOUR LISTENERS to visit the NPR website and hear for ourselves... and then get in NPR's face and COMPLAIN the way the reichwingers do whenever something goes up they don't like. Instead you decided to remain silent and disempower your listeners. Why? Why are you doing the Republicans' work for them?

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Maxrot 7 years 1 week ago

@rladlof, in answer to your questions in comment #13....

They're offshore.


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stopgap 7 years 1 week ago

If GM is "Government Motors" as the "TEABAGGERS" like to call it: considering that GM is now making huge profits, doesn't this prove that the government actually can run a business better than the corporation that took GM into bankruptcy.

And if Jon Stewart thinks that calling George Bush a "war criminal" cuts off the debate; I've got news for him. Republican Debate is an oxymoron. They ended the debate 30 years ago. You cannot debate with a party that refuses to acknowledge facts and creates their own definitions.

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gerald 7 years 1 week ago

Bernie Sanders did a great job of answering excellent questions from Thom’s callers. I have been listening to Thom for about four years. Thom has had great radio shows in those four years but this week was Thom’s greatest week. He focused on tax loans for the American rich and he defended social security and the program’s solvency. Obama’s problem is that he is a corporatist and an elitist.

If you listen carefully to Thom, he is trying very hard to maintain an upper stiff lip about America’s future. His comments on taxes and social security have been great. These comments are truly great. The problem is that the United States of Mortal Sin does not have a future. Here is my reason – the American psyche is totally embedded with hatred, corruption, and lies. This psyche will NEVER diminish. It is an everlasting psyche.

Thom reminds me of a drowning person. It is said that a drowning person will surface three times before he drowns. Thom is currently between his second and third surfacing but he will eventually surface a third time and drown. Thom’s voice will be lost. He seems to be losing some of his beliefs in America’s future and that Obama will be re-elected in 2012. What Thom won’t say but I will say it. The United States is damned and doomed. Ninety percent of our citizens will be enslaved to ten percent of the American population.

Please remember these words from time to time. “WHAT WE HAVE IN JESUS IS AN AMAZING FRIEND!!!” Please, let us never forget that Jesus is truly an amazing friend.

It is always better when we are together!


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gerald 7 years 1 week ago

If an orangutan can be a friend with a hound, why can't fascist-Nazis and the Democrats be friends?


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Maxrot 7 years 1 week ago

Robbing from the poor to give to the wealthy. This is the history of the mankind from the get go, its no wonder that Robbin Hood and Pretty Boy Floyd are such mythic figures of their times. Its not criminal to be wealthy and a thief. Justice may be blind, but obviously justice is not being served in this country.


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Maxrot 7 years 1 week ago

Easier to get an Orangutan and a Nazi to kneel at the sight of a cross than it is to get the Left and Right to see eye to eye.


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gerald 7 years 1 week ago

The fight begins now!


For some reason this article fails to link!

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gerald 7 years 1 week ago
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making progress 7 years 1 week ago

Malcolm Gladwell 3 minute talk on Income Inequality "We're off the Rails"


This is The Most Concise Articulation of Our Income Inequality You'll ever hear! He really has a way with words.

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gerald 7 years 1 week ago

The above two articles can be found on today's opednews.

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gerald 7 years 1 week ago

A Toady and a Sycophant

A toady is a flatterer in hope of gaining favors from the rich and powerful, a sycophant. A sycophant is a servile self-seeking listener. A sycophant is also someone who clings to a person or group of wealth, power, and influence and he is someone who is useless to society. In other words Obama was never suited to lead or to be president of the United States of America. He is a failed Grand Experiment. Before noon on January 20, 2013 Obama will be out as president. A toady sycophant’s reign will have ended. He is also a disgraced recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize. What I am saying about Obama upsets me because I voted for him and I had high hopes for him as president but he has revealed that he did not have the character or the tools to be president of our country.

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gerald 7 years 1 week ago


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gerald 7 years 1 week ago

God Is Involved

I have tried to delay this comment. This comment brought me an internal conflict that is similar to an old fashion alley mugging. The words in my comment have preyed on my body, mind, and soul. I am revealing to these words because I believe passionately in what I will say to you. I have tried to share information that would call Americans to move in the direction of God and for our repentance. We, as Americans, have chosen not to repent and so here is my comment, a dire and sad comment.

We will need to know how God deals with the world. He is intimately involved with every single activity in the world. God knows every reality that exists within His mysterious reality that every being is sustained by Him. Whether we like it or not, God is involved in every famine and harvest. Whether we think about it or not, God is part of every virtuous act and dastardly deed. Whether we like it or not, the history of the world, the story of our life, and the activity of God are intertwined together, world without end. God is involved in every peaceful mission and in every war.

America has turned her back on God; America has killed God’s children; America has followed false prophets like Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, and Obama; and America will always remain greedy, selfish and self-centered. America is also the most evil, vile, and wicked nation on planet, Earth. What is happening in America and in our world reminds me of the story of Job.

In the Bible there is in the Old Testament, the Book of Job. Job lived about 500 or 600 years before the birth of Jesus Christ. It was also around the time that God was not pleased with His people. God has given everything to the people and they were not listening to Him. They were not willing to help one another and their lives were very sinful. God was going to destroy the earth.

For some reason God was going to give the world another chance. He was going to test the world with one person and that person was Job. Job was a man of prayer and he would also praise God. God blessed Job with wealth, land, property, and family. God slowly started to take away what He had given to Job. Job still prayed and praised God. A neighbor came by one day and he talked to Job. He said to Job that God was punishing Job and Job still prayed and praised God. How could Job continue to love God? Job said to his neighbor that it was God’s will and God knows best.

God was so moved by Job’s words and loyalty that He spared the earth from destruction. Job’s behavior silenced God. God would speak only one more time. God spoke at Jesus’ baptism in the Jordan River. “This is my son in whom I am well pleased.”

From Jesus’ death to the present we keep hearing that God works in mysterious ways. With God there are no surprises. No, God does not work in mysterious ways. He has given us His son and the words of Jesus. Our problem is that we refuse to listen to God’s son and His words. God has been testing the world through the United States of Mortal Sin. God has not chosen a person; He has chosen a country. The United States of Mortal Sin is now the Job of the New Testament.

Job, the country, has failed every test. Job, the country, holds steadfastly to hatred and lies. She has also embraced murders and war crimes. She has also turned her back on God and God’s son, Jesus. Christianity is no longer Job’s religion. Job and the country’s beauty believe that they are better than God. Like Lucifer, the most beautiful of God’s angels, Job believes that God is not needed and the axis of evil is better than God. Job’s axis of evil clings to money, nuclear weapons, and false prophets and their words.

Job, the country, will also bring down the rest of world and its population. Job has failed God and her destruction and the world’s destruction are imminent.

We must never forget that the pain and suffering upon our nation will be endless because Americans refuse to repent. Yes, it is God’s will because He knows best. God is involved in every activity and aspect of our life from our joys and from our miseries. The slaughter of the Democrats by the fascist-Nazi Party, aka the GOP, was God’s will and He knows best. The domination of the United States Supreme Court over ninety percent of Americans is God’s will and He knows best. The enslaved of ninety percent of the people by ten percent of the American rich and American corporations is God’s will and He knows best. You must never forget that GOD IS INVOLVED.

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gerald 7 years 1 week ago
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gerald 7 years 1 week ago

I cannot speak for women but in conversations with my wife she has said that raising children is very difficult. Many women lack health care; there are less good paying jobs to help raise a family; and why should women raise children so they can end up in wars that will last one hundred years. Women today are giving great thought to having or not having children.


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gerald 7 years 1 week ago

Obama is truly functioning more like a fascist-Nazi than as a Democrat!!!!!

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Semantic Monitor 6 years 38 weeks ago

Any consideration for booking Writer /Author Malcolm Gladwell on the Thom Hartmann Show?

Gladwell does excellent work in deconstructing “human behavior” and yielding best-sellers?

How would Gladwell deconstruct the current social, economic, and political landscapes?

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That may be, but those are not his constituents. Those are his suckers. Those are his rubes.

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