Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker answers his master's call

This from copied with permission (and at the request of): www.buffalobeast.com - after they put it up, their site was hacked down, so they asked us to repost it here - this is entirely their ariticle/editorial content.

We cannot attest to it's veracity here at Thom Hartmann, but it sounds real. Mother Jones and Huffington Post are now all over the story, so its accuracy/reality or lack thereof will come out quickly...

Walker's office has apparently verified that it IS his voice on the call...

Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker answers his master's call

David Koch”: We'll back you any way we can. What we were thinking about the crowd was, uh, was planting some troublemakers. Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker: You know, well, the only problem with that—because we thought about that...

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"He's just hard-lined—will not talk, will not communicate, will not return phone calls." -Wisconsin state Sen. Tim Carpenter (D) on Gov. Walker (source)

Carpenter's quote made me wonder: who could get through to Gov. Walker? Well, what do we know about Walker and his proposed union-busting, no-bid budget? The obvious candidate was David Koch.

I first called at 11:30 am CST, and eventually got through to a young, male receptionist who, upon hearing the magic name Koch, immediately transferred me to Executive Assistant Governor Dorothy Moore.

“We've met before, Dorothy,” I nudged. “I really need to talk to Scott—Governor Walker.” She said that, yes, she thought she had met Koch, and that the name was “familiar.” But she insisted that Walker was detained in a meeting and couldn't get away. She asked about the nature of my call. I balked, “I just needed to speak with the Governor. He knows what this is about,” I said. She told me to call back at noon, and she'd have a better idea of when he would be free.

I called at noon and was quickly transferred to Moore, who then transferred me to Walker's Chief of Staff Keith Gilkes. He was “expecting my call.”

“David!” he said with an audible smile.

I politely said hello, not knowing how friendly Gilkes and Koch may be. He was eager to help. “I was really hoping to talk directly to Scott,” I said. He said that could be arranged and that I should just leave my number. I explained to Gilkes, “My goddamn maid, Maria, put my phone in the washer. I'd have her deported, but she works for next to nothing.” Gilkes found this amusing. “I'm calling from the VOID—with the VOID, or whatever it's called. You know, the Snype!”

“Gotcha,” Gilkes said. “Let me check the schedule here...OK, there's an opening at 2 o'clock Central Standard Time. Just call this same number and we'll put you through.”

Could it really be that easy? Yes. What follows is a rushed, abridged transcript of my—I mean, David Koch's conversation with Gov. Walker. Listen to the whole call here:

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Walker: Hi; this is Scott Walker.

Koch: Scott! David Koch. How are you?

Walker: Hey, David! I'm good. And yourself?

Koch: I'm very well. I'm a little disheartened by the situation there, but, uh, what's the latest?

Walker: Well, we're actually hanging pretty tough. I mean—you know, amazingly there's a much smaller group of protesters—almost all of whom are in from other states today. The State Assembly is taking the bill up—getting it all the way to the last point it can be at where it's unamendable. But they're waiting to pass it until the Senate's—the Senate Democrats, excuse me, the assembly Democrats have about a hundred amendments they're going through. The state Senate still has the 14 members missing but what they're doing today is bringing up all sorts of other non-fiscal items, many of which are things members in the Democratic side care about. And each day we're going to ratchet it up a little bit.... The Senate majority leader had a great plan he told about this morning—he told the Senate Democrats about and he's going to announce it later today, and that is: The Senate organization committee is going to meet and pass a rule that says if you don't show up for two consecutive days on a session day—in the state Senate, the Senate chief clerk—it's a little procedural thing here, but—can actually have your payroll stopped from being automatically deducted—

Koch: Beautiful.

Walker: —into your checking account and instead—you still get a check, but the check has to be personally picked up and he's instructing them—which we just loved—to lock them in their desk on the floor of the state Senate.

Koch: Now you're not talking to any of these Democrat bastards, are you?

Walker: Ah, I—there's one guy that's actually voted with me on a bunch of things I called on Saturday for about 45 minutes, mainly to tell him that while I appreciate his friendship and he's worked with us on other things, to tell him I wasn't going to budge.

Koch: Goddamn right!

Walker: ...his name is Tim Cullen—

Koch: All right, I'll have to give that man a call.

Walker: Well, actually, in his case I wouldn't call him and I'll tell you why: he's pretty reasonable but he's not one of us...

Koch: Now who can we get to budge on this collective bargaining?

Walker: ...I think the paycheck will have an impact...secondly, one of the things we're looking at next...we're still waiting on an opinion to see if the unions have been paying to put these guys up out of state. We think there's at minimum an ethics violation if not an outright felony. Koch: Well, they're probably putting hobos in suits.

Walker: Yeah.

Koch: That's what we do. Sometimes.

Walker: I mean paying for the senators to be put up. I know they're paying for these guy—I mean, people can pay for protesters to come in and that's not an ethics code, but, I mean, literally if the unions are paying the 14 senators—their food, their lodging, anything like that...[*** Important regarding his later acceptance of a Koch offer to “show him a good time.” ***]

[I was stunned. I am stunned. In the interest of expediting the release of this story, here are the juiciest bits:]

Walker: ...I've got layoff notices ready...

Koch: Beautiful; beautiful. Gotta crush that union.

Walker: [bragging about how he doesn't budge]...I would be willing to sit down and talk to him, the assembly Democrat leader, plus the other two Republican leaders—talk, not negotiate and listen to what they have to say if they will in turn—but I'll only do it if all 14 of them will come back and sit down in the state assembly...legally, we believe, once they've gone into session, they don't physically have to be there. If they're actually in session for that day, and they take a recess, the 19 Senate Republicans could then go into action and they'd have quorum...so we're double checking that. If you heard I was going to talk to them that's the only reason why. We'd only do it if they came back to the capital with all 14 of them...

Koch: Bring a baseball bat. That’s what I'd do.

Walker: I have one in my office; you'd be happy with that. I have a slugger with my name on it.

Koch: Beautiful.

Walker: [union-bashing...]

Koch: Beautiful.

Walker: So this is ground zero, there's no doubt about it. [Talks about a “great” NYT piece of “objective journalism.” Talks about how most private blue-collar workers have turned against public, unionized workers.]...So I went through and called a handful, a dozen or so lawmakers I worry about each day and said, “Everyone, we should get that story printed out and send it to anyone giving you grief.”

Koch: Goddamn right! We, uh, we sent, uh, Andrew Breitbart down there.

Walker:Yeah.

Koch: Yeah.

Walker: Good stuff.

Koch: He's our man, you know.

Walker: [blah about his press conferences, attacking Obama, and all the great press he's getting.] Brian [Sadoval], the new Governor of Nevada, called me the last night he said—he was out in the Lincoln Day Circuit in the last two weekends and he was kidding me, he said, “Scott, don't come to Nevada because I'd be afraid you beat me running for governor.” That’s all they want to talk about is what are you doing to help the governor of Wisconsin. I talk to Kasich every day—John's gotta stand firm in Ohio. I think we could do the same thing with Vic Scott in Florida. I think, uh, Snyder—if he got a little more support—probably could do that in Michigan. You start going down the list there's a lot of us new governors that got elected to do something big.

Koch: You're the first domino.

Walker: Yep. This is our moment.

Koch: Now what else could we do for you down there?

Walker: Well the biggest thing would be—and your guy on the ground [Americans For Prosperity president Tim Phillips] is probably seeing this [stuff about all the people protesting, and some of them flip him off].

[Abrupt end of first recording, and start of second.]

Walker: [Bullshit about doing the right thing and getting flipped off by “union bulls,” and the decreasing number of protesters. Or some such.]

Koch: We'll back you any way we can. What we were thinking about the crowd was, uh, was planting some troublemakers.

Walker: You know, well, the only problem with that —because we thought about that. The problem—the, my only gut reaction to that is right now the lawmakers I've talked to have just completely had it with them, the public is not really fond of this...[explains that planting troublemakers may not work.] My only fear would be if there's a ruckus caused is that maybe the governor has to settle to solve all these problems...[something about '60s liberals.]...Let 'em protest all they want...Sooner or later the media stops finding it interesting.

Koch: Well, not the liberal bastards on MSNBC.

Walker: Oh yeah, but who watches that? I went on “Morning Joe” this morning. I like it because I just like being combative with those guys, but, uh. You know they're off the deep end.

Koch: Joe—Joe's a good guy. He's one of us.

Walker: Yeah, he's all right. He was fair to me...[bashes NY Senator Chuck Schumer, who was also on the program.]

Koch: Beautiful; beautiful. You gotta love that Mika Brzezinski; she's a real piece of ass.

Walker: Oh yeah. [story about when he hung out with human pig Jim Sensenbrenner at some D.C. function and he was sitting next to Brzezinski and her father, and their guest was David Axelrod. He introduced himself.]

Koch: That son of a bitch!

Walker: Yeah no kidding huh?...

Koch: Well, good; good. Good catching up with ya'.

Walker: This is an exciting time [blah, blah, blah, Super Bowl reference followed by an odd story of pulling out a picture of Ronald Reagan and explaining to his staff the plan to crush the union the same way Reagan fired the air traffic controllers]...that was the first crack in the Berlin Wall because the Communists then knew Reagan wasn't a pushover. [Blah, blah, blah. He's exactly like Reagan. Won't shut up about how awesome he is.]

Koch: [Laughs] Well, I tell you what, Scott: once you crush these bastards I'll fly you out to Cali and really show you a good time.

Walker: All right, that would be outstanding. [*** Ethical violation much? ***] Thanks for all the support...it's all about getting our freedoms back...

Koch: Absolutely. And, you know, we have a little bit of a vested interest as well. [Laughs]

Walker: [Blah] Thanks a million!

Koch: Bye-bye!

Walker: Bye.

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So there you have it, kids. Government isn't for the people. It's for the people with money. You want to be heard? Too fucking bad. You want to collectively bargain? You can't afford a seat at the table. You may have built that table. But it's not yours. It belongs to the Kochs and the oligarch class. It's guarded by Republicans like Walker, and his Democratic counterparts across that ever-narrowing aisle that is corporate rule, so that the ever-widening gap between the haves and the have-nots can swallow all the power in the world. These are known knowns, and now we just know them a little more.

But money isn't always power. The protesters in Cairo and Madison have taught us this—reminded us of this. They can't buy a muzzle big enough to silence us all. Share the news. Do not retreat; ReTweet. The revolution keeps spinning. Try not to get too dizzy.

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Comments

vince1s1's picture
vince1s1 8 years 33 weeks ago
#1

Hi Thom, I was listening to the Ed show like I do every day. In regards to why the President is not addressing the issue in Wisconsin, and he will not I feel because of the corporations investment in Global Trade, the mindset in Washington is not to deal with the illegal countries involved in trade but rather lower the American standard of living so as to keep their profit margin stable. Your right it is war but on a very well thought out, very high level strategy that requires very detailed steps in order to accomplish its objectives. Citizens United, by the way Mr. Hoffa is a sell out and no one really respects him because of is under the table dealing and I use to belong to his union, he sold us out for temp workers back in 2006 and 2007 where once Airborne Express now is DHL was allowed to set up and get rid of all its senior employees with benefits of course, only to eventually close its doors and reopen under DHL. That is only one example, I have many more. The President will never address the real issue because he is a corporate Democrate, period! His ideal logy is different from what he portrayed it to be when he was running for the office.

Vince

lake Forest, IL

yakative's picture
yakative 8 years 33 weeks ago
#2

While it's hard to find a quid pro quo smoking gun in this conversation, it is damning enough that the governor of a state who is presumably busy doing the peoples business has 20 minutes to give to an OUT-OF-STATE "constituent", especially when he whines about protesters coming from out of state.

MsPattyO's picture
MsPattyO 8 years 33 weeks ago
#3

Wow! This really is about money and power. This is about the Republican party making certain the Democratic party loses it's major funding source; unions. Once unions are essentially obliterated, so is the infrastucture they have to organize and raise funds. It is also stripping others of the power to prevent unilateral decisions on selling off essential resources in the State of Wisconsin. After hearing this, go to TPM for more details included in this legislation.

StevenMcVay 8 years 33 weeks ago
#4

He's not one of us? Is this the so called "shadow government" coming to light? If nothing else it seems like conspiracy. Shouldn't the feds be placing Walker under arrest?

Paradigm Mine's picture
Paradigm Mine 8 years 33 weeks ago
#5

Thom,

I heard the conversation you had with John Nichols. If there is a criminal investigation into Walker, could the use of political power to control the citizens at the behest of a private corporate interest borderline treasonous behavior?

-Adam.

rewinn's picture
rewinn 8 years 33 weeks ago
#6

At the end of the conversation, fake Koch offers to bribe Walker with a trip to Cali and a "good time", and Walker agrees.

Why is this not a bribe a.k.a. felony? Walker accepted the offer of a reward for his services, which should violate many laws.

pmn colorado's picture
pmn colorado 8 years 33 weeks ago
#7

This is disgraceful. A reporter misrepresents himself and tapes the conversation without consent and you think Gov. Walker looks bad. You know you make it easy for the right to look good. This is a dirty underhanded trick utilized by those that have no cleverness or intelligence. This reporter should go hid under a rock with the rest of the democratic representatives. Remember the tax payers are the real victims in this mess.

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