Don’t mess with working people...

The backlash is underway against Republican Governors who attacked labor unions this year. Next month – voters in Ohio will get a chance to repeal SB-5 – the law pushed by Governor John Kasich to strip collective bargaining rights from public workers.

According to a new Quinnipiac poll – SB-5 is in big trouble with 57% of voters supporting repeal – and only 32% against it. But Governor John Kasich has it easy. While his signature legislation may suffer defeat next month – at least he’ll still get to keep his job.

The same can’t be said about Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker who passed similar legislation – and will likely face a recall election next year as a result. Don’t mess with working people.

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Pat Prachter's picture
Pat Prachter 10 years 49 weeks ago
#1

Let's hope there is no repeat episode of "finding" enough votes at the last minute to turn the tide. It has become the broken record heard throughout America this past decade.

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Drew Peacock 10 years 49 weeks ago
#2

Congratulations to the Jean Quan, Democrat mayor of Oakland, CA, for enforcing the law and breaking up the illegal occupation of the park. I hope the 99.999% of non protesters are not unhappy about paying the millions of Oakland, CA taxpayers dollars to clean up the mess left by this clown circus.

Good on Jean Quan

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Palindromedary 10 years 49 weeks ago
#3

Wall Street Zombie Kops (brains...more brains!) might have a harder time removing hundreds of thousands of patriotic Occupy Wall Street protestors if they were all amassed on the Golden Gate Bridge one morning preventing the commuters from entering SF some business day. And if there were a lot of abandoned vehicles on the GG bridge that would help snarl the traffic that would really tangle things up. Look what happened when MLK was shot. People brought cities to a standstill. Washington DC beltway was clogged with traffic. The assassination of MLK was truly horrendous but how much worse is it that the fascist ruling elite banksters and crooked Wall Streeters have rigged our economic system so that millions of people have been booted out of their homes and may die of starvation, exposure to the elements (especially with winter coming on), and die of a lack of medical care? This is a war that the ruling elite started and they have been waging that war against us for at least 30 years now.

Oh, and don't forget, that part of this war is using propaganda against us and they are now using fake on-line identities to spread pro-American and pro-ruling elite propaganda.

"Revealed: US spy operation that manipulates social media

Military's 'sock puppet' software creates fake online identities to spread pro-American propaganda

The US military is developing software that will let it secretly manipulate social media sites by using fake online personas to influence internet conversations and spread pro-American propaganda."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social...

Aside from the usual right-wing useful idiots who are against true democracy and who obviously sides with fascism and corporate greed, we now have paid military useful idiots who are directed to use multiple fake identities on-line to spread their anti-democratic propaganda.

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madbeats 10 years 49 weeks ago
#4

Thank you Palindromedary for admitting that what's going on with the economy has nothing to do with capitalism, or free market principles ("the fascist ruling elite banksters and crooked Wall Streeters have rigged our economic system"). The left always likes to blame capitalism and the free market on why things are messed up with the economy. They either don't know, or don't care that our economy is a fascist based economy.

It's refreshing to see an honest lefty! :)

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David Abbot 10 years 49 weeks ago
#5

The republicans are very lucky that we liberals are not like them. Because if we were like them, we would be pushing for laws that would put a 99% income tax on every person who makes more than $200,000 a year and all people who have more than $1 million in assets. We would put meters around rich people's necks and every time they take a breath of OUR AIR, they would have $5,000 deducted from their bank accounts, with a half-breath counting as ten breaths, and if they try to breathe less to save money, we jack the rate up by 100,000%. Whenever there was a war, all of the rich people- of all ages- would be immediately drafted to fight on the front lines, with sticks and rocks for weapons. When any liberal thinks that a corporation is responsible for someone dying, every person in that corporation above middle management would go to jail for 20 years and all of their assets would be used for feeding the poor, the board of directors would be immediately executed and their assets would be used for educating the poor, everyone who owns more than $10,000 worth of the corporation's stock would be executed and their assets would be used for repairing roads and bridges, all of the assets of the corporation would be seized and sold at auction and the proceeds used to buy houses for homeless people. All of the money that the war profiteers make would be seized and given to the people we declared war against. All of these programs would be administered by people who have never made more than $50,000 a year, and they would be paid no more than $50,000 for doing it. When members of congress retire, they would be free to seek other employment, as cleaners of porta potties. Republican governors would be forced to live in the worst buildings in the worst neighborhoods in their state, with no police protection because after all police protection of republicans is just another example of government spending run amok. Republican senators would be required to spend fifteen years in prison on the perfectly reasonable assumption that if the truth were known, they would have to do at least twice that much time for the crimes they have committed and/or the crimes that they will commit.

Yes, I think that republicans are lucky that we are not like them.

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stonesphear 10 years 49 weeks ago
#6

"Exodus" serves an example of the power of "collective bargaining"

Fortunes are made off the backs of labor and fortunes are lost whipping the backs of labor.

Pat Prachter's picture
Pat Prachter 10 years 49 weeks ago
#7

David Abbot: Great comment.

madbeats: It's refreshing to see an honest lefty??!!

If righties are moving their lips, they're lying

dianhow 10 years 49 weeks ago
#8

as a former Repub Now left of center No one I know blames Capitalism Its lack of common sense regulations that are the problem .Once Wall St was set free Greed & avarice took over. Many yrs under Reaganomics 1981 deregulation- unfunded debt and corp cuts- -Bush 1-2 Cheney & Bushs 6 yr GOP congress' wealth favoring policies, long failed wars wasting trillions , based on lies & profits led to disaster Iraq was a huge gift to AL Quada Bush said in 2001 ' WE will get the folks who knocked down these buildings' NO Bush failed Obama got Bin laden & top Al qauda - helped with ghadify Thats Leadership . ! Bush admin ignored many CIA warnings about a coming attack 9 /11 Last one was on Aug 6 2001 It said 'BIN laden determined to hit inside the US' Bush did NOT keep us safe Bush & CO created many more enemies by unjustly attacking Iraq based on fear lies & war profiteering

dianhow 10 years 49 weeks ago
#9

15 of 19 9 / 11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia ! None from IRAQ Even Cheney finally admitted Iraq was not involved in 9 / 11 after years of lies that Fox Beck Hannity Bachman & CO still repeats to this day

dianhow 10 years 49 weeks ago
#10

Well said Thanks

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George Reiter 10 years 49 weeks ago
#11

To quote Theodore Roosevelt,"... his labor - was a perishable commodity; the labor of to-day - if not sold was a perishable commodity; the labor of to-day - if not sold to-day - was lost forever. Moreover, his labor was not like most commodities - a mere thing; it was part of a living, breathing human being."

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cygnus1 10 years 49 weeks ago
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I am just in the midst of watching this clip and as it is very long I decided to post it here for all the viewers. Whether you agree with all it says or not is entirely up to each of you.

The French government sent a list of passengers to the U.S. government proving there were no hijackers on board, but the U.S. government went ahead with its own version.

Aside from all this, what needs to be protected most of all, right now, for we, the people, is "free speech," for it is well on its way out, with martial law well on its way in, in a much more formidable way than you would ever expect, with over 600 secret camps having been built across the United States of America just awaiting the arrival of the people who do not agree with government, corporate powers, the wars, and Wall Street. Though we must move past these penny anti issues of who does what in the elite's government of the United States and around the world, it still behoves us to also "understand" what has brought us to our knees.

War by Deception 2011 The shadow government and shadow economy

"The defense industry makes money off of ANY conflict so why Iraq. Because there were a threat to Israel. We could have bought the oil for FAR less than what it cost to steal it. Big oil did not create ANY of the lies that lead to war, and yet PNAC wrote ALL of them. This was a war for and by Israel. Even the invasion priority #1 was to take out the Western portion of Iraq the only place with range of hitting Israel. Zelikow admits as much that the war was for Israeli interest.

by Ryan Dawson"

www.whatreallyhappened.com

(I have no idea why before I wrote at the top of my post that I have all this muddle above it. Sometimes this happens when you copy and paste, but I did not do that until later. - Cygnus1)

MaryMary's picture
MaryMary 10 years 49 weeks ago
#13

David, either the moon is full, (I should check), or the dosage of the medications you take needs to be ajusted. What a wild, psychotic, imagination you have when one or both of the above happens.

cygnus1's picture
cygnus1 10 years 49 weeks ago
#14

David Abott! Brilliant!

Great article Palindromedary. We know there are spies throughout the internet, upsetting forums and disrupting discussions and setting up fake websites, so this update is valuable. Thank you.

Palindromedary's picture
Palindromedary 10 years 49 weeks ago
#15

Madbeats: Actually, I don't have anything against capitalism, pe se, but it is laissez faire capitalism that I find objectionable. Capitalism has to be regulated by government to protect the people against rapacious and unfair practices or it turns into the criminal structure it is today.

But when government is bought off by that cabal of ruling elite that has amassed the major portion of wealth to the point that the majority of people greatly suffer then that is the kind of capitalism that needs to be stomped on and ground into the gutters where it belongs. These greedy laissez faire capitalists have turned common sense capitalism into gutter capitalism. Gutter capitalism has no problem with spying on people, murdering people, and manipulating people to their graves. In fact, I believe that there are a number of selfish and smug arrogant little sh!ts who believe they deserve to live high on the hog and believe that the world is too populated and are working toward killing off a large segment of the world's population any way they can.

Many of these small-minded people seem to think they deserve the good life, and others don't, because they are superior, harder working, and more dedicated. Well, many of these ruling elite are just plain lucky....they either inherited their money or they were skillful at tricking other people out of theirs. I don't mean all business people are inherently bad but the goal of most is to maximize their profits...and many..maximize their profits in anyway they can get away with it.

Many, with a remnant of a conscience they still have, perhaps, have to lie to others and even to themselves in order to do what they do to other people. The corporate world is even worse. The whole structure of a corporation is to battle for whatever profits they can...they believe they owe it to their shareholders..if not to themselves...but mostly to themselves.

Of course, the incorrigibly selfish try to pigeon hole those of us who challenge their piggishness into a "red-baiting" (or capitalist hating) corner. But, of course, that is so "yesterday" that it just doesn't work anymore...especially when the masses of disenfranchised and really ticked off people are not as gullible as they used to be during the McCarthy years. Their bastion of laissez faire capitalism has managed to wreck economies everywhere. The neoliberal capitalist model has failed and is bringing chaos to the world.

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2950-10K 10 years 49 weeks ago
#16

It's no secret to most of us that republican Governors like Walker amount to little more than tools used by 1%ers like the Kochs to garner 99% of the representation. So of course they carry out the anti union directives coming from these arbitrary powers.

Unions tend to create a level playing field much to the dismay of the sociopaths with feudal impulse. They also represent ordinary citizens banding together in true Democratic fashion in order to exercise rights that should exist to begin with. Heaven forbid a little power escape the hands of a few, thats too much like DEMOCRACY! I feel the tide is turning, but I'm amazed there are still non billionaires willing to vote republican!

Palindromedary's picture
Palindromedary 10 years 49 weeks ago
#17

Interview of Glenn Greenwald by Truthout.

GG: "...one major difference between Bush and Obama is that Bush at least had one major political party pretending to find his abuses objectionable. By contrast, Obama has very little opposition: Republicans are being consistent by cheering for limitless executive power and civil liberties abuses carried out in the name of fighting Terrorism, but now, Democrats are either indifferent to those actions or outright supportive because they're now being carried out by their own party's leader. Bush's radicalism was seen as controversial right-wing dogma, but Obama has transformed it into bipartisan consensus, and thus strengthened it."

GG: "Financial elites own and control the government, so it's not surprising that the government they own and control failed to hold them accountable for their crimes. As I say in the book (With Liberty and Justice for Some), expecting the government to prosecute their Wall-Street-owners is like expecting a tenant to evict his landlord.

Beyond that,the ethos of elite immunity is that the more important someone is, the more urgent it is that they not be subjected to things like investigations, prosecutions, and especially prison, even if they were caught committing serious crimes. After all, this propaganda teaches, we need Wall Street tycoons (or CIA torturers, or NSA eavsdroppers) for our own security and prosperity, so shielding them from punishment is in the common good. The rationale for elite immunity is really that Orwellian.

Geithner said, just a few days ago, that there were Wall Street prosecutions and that more are coming, "stay tuned." Can he be taken even remotely seriously?

Absolutely not. Periodically, the U.S. Government will commence civil enforcement actions against Wall Street firms, and they almost always end with some absurdly low amount in payments that the firms simply write off as the cost of doing business. This is designed to cast the appearance of accountability, but given the magnitude of the fraud and other crimes, the "penalties" are negligible. The last thing the Obama administration is going to do heading into an election year is meaningfully sanction the industry that played such a key role in funding the President's 2008 campaign and which they want to fund his re-election bid."

http://www.truth-out.org/why-elite-class-protected-under-americas-justic...

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thecoloradokid 10 years 49 weeks ago
#18

This is a very interesting and, I think, factual article! (Comment regarding Palindromedary "Wall St. Zombie Kops" #4) Correct facts, that is, regarding the Fascist forces beating the drums against the Occupy Wall Street protestors and other things of an anti-democratic nature. But, the writer makes a point about the tie up of traffic in the beltway when MLK was murdered.

I would like to add another observation or two: I think Fascist forces, both within and outside the CIA and FBI were involved in the murder of JFK. For backup please read well known author and columnist Joan Mellon's book "A Farewell To Justice, Jim Garrison, JFK's assassination, and The Case That Should Have Changed History." Jim Garrison, District Attorney of New Orleans, despite having his office bugged and having CIA infiltrators in on his daily thoughts figured out early on the planning by the CIA/FBI operatives. He was able to bring a credible case against Clay Shaw, who denied he worked for the CIA, but Garrison lacked the proof despite the fact both the CIA and FBI knew differently. Clay Shaw was acquited because he didn't have the proof that Garrison needed to convict. Also, Garrison was hampered by vicious rumors set out by the CIA that attacked him personally and professionally. He also figured out early on that Lee Oswald didn't fire the gun and wasn't a participant except for the purpose of being a "patsy" as he said he was. Oswald also asked for a certain person at the FBI (!) to be told of the charges against him; he was interviewed for approximately 12 hours and yet no notes are in existence! Jack Ruby was well known to Oswald and was a CIA operative himself. This goes on and on, and anyone who looked like they were giving out too much information to Garrison, were put to death. Garrison also gave credance to other assassins being the ones to fire from the famous "grassy knoll", to a shot from the front of the motorcade that hit him in the throat and blew out the back of his skull. Even the autopsy was made to seem what it wasn't. An eye witness account finally was shown a copy of "her" affidavit and declared it to be exactly opposite what she said on the form; also, the signature wasn't hers, and there was no notary present when she signed the document, but there was one now! The Warren Report was riddled with inaccurate facts; Garrison was denied evidence that existed.

JFK fired Allen Dulles, Director of Central Intelligence, after the Bay of Pigs fiasco; Richard Helms, Deputy Director, Plans, and chief of clandestine services on the date JFK was murdered finally admited, under oath, that Clay Shaw was indeed working for the CIA. Congress revisited the facts, found credible evidence of many facts not correctly brought out in the Warren Report and ordered the FBI to investigate and report back. This was in 1979. No information has been received to this date. Also, one last salient point; key aspects of the case will not be be admitted to the public until the year 2029! That is 66 years from the murder of JFK. No one will probably be alive on that date that was implicated in the case!

Read Joan Mellon's book and make up your own mind. Since the release of thousands of documents by the CIA and FBI in 1992 Jim Garrison's work is being shown as very credible indeed. He paid a high price though as his health deteriorated under the onslaught by the forces against him. Even so, a very nervous CIA operative Garrison interviewed admitted to him that he was about 92% correct with the facts and theories he had developed.

Back to MLK. I now think JFK, RFK and MLK were eliminated as being too populist, and therefore Communistic, which was the favorite buzzword in those days. The Fascists have consolidated their power within the Republican Party and because of the great wealth divide between the very rich and the middle class they are able to use money as the power to keep them down. Unless the voters get wise and use their power at the polls the Fascist forces will just keep rolling along, getting stronger.

Republican arrogance and intransigence on any matter before Congress can be explained in this way; they know they have the backing, money, etc. of their Fascist masters. So far, money talks, but will there come a day?

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leila 10 years 49 weeks ago
#19

There seems to be NO backlash against New Mexico's Tea-Party governor yet. She continues to find devious ways to push through her anti-public school, anti-child, anti-labor school reform. Educators will continue fighting this so called reform, but this fight became even harder when President Obama and Secretary of Education Arne Duncan endorsed Governor Martinez's plan. President Obama has accused Teachers' Unions of fighting to keep the status quo. As an educator I know this to be false. The status quo wants to choke public education and privatize our school system. President Obama's education reform plan will change our public schools, but not for the better. He promised educators a seat at the reform table, but has not followed through with this promise. He believes just as Jeb Bush and Michele Rhee (former DC Education Chancellor) that you can fire your way to better education. The unfunded mandates of No Child Left Behind are the status quo, and as a teacher I am definitely fighting the status quo.

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MaryMary 10 years 49 weeks ago
#20

Leita, I'm a teacher as well. As a teacher, my job is to teach children, not fight the status quo. Do your job!! Teach.

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Palindromedary 10 years 49 weeks ago
#21

thecoloradokid: Thank you very much for all of that...and I strongly agree with you on all points. I was listening to Jim DiEugenio on the BlackOPs podcast (#547) today...and they talked about the JFK assassination and specifically about Lee Harvey Oswald. They played some old audio tapes of various people involved including interviews with Oswald before that day on Dealy Plaza. Very, Very interesting! Yes, I think Oswald worked for, or thought he worked for the CIA, and was being used as a patsy who had no idea about the planned assassination. Our 3 letter covert organizations are good at finding patsies. And one thing they said was that even the FBI (Hoover anyway) didn't believe that it was a lone gunman and the Warren Commission wouldn't even enter or consider the report from the FBI because it deviated from the "lone gunman" theory. It's just like the FBI did not even believe there was sufficient evidence to go after Osama Bin Laden. I think the American people are finally waking up to what kind of criminal overlords we have...after all...how can anyone ignore what has happened to the average working person over the past 30 years...and especially since baby Bush and his doppleganger, Obama. Smoke and mirrors, communists and terrorists, are no longer the believable boogeymen propaganda of the fascists. The real terrorist are the ones who have been picking our pockets and who have been waging a covert war against the majority of Americans. They've uses psy-ops against us and had some of us fooled for a while...others are still fooled and foolishly defends the fascists who exploits us all.

David Abbot's picture
David Abbot 10 years 49 weeks ago
#22

MaryMary, do what you do, my grandmother gives better insults than you. And she's dead.

MaryMary's picture
MaryMary 10 years 49 weeks ago
#23

David, I'm not trying to insult you, plus I could never top the insults you do to yourself. That jibberish you try to pass for "intelluctual" thought is an insult to anyone who wants to see real changes made. Me and millions more like me, are the ones who are going to bring about any changes, but I dont' think anyone will line up to follow you. In fact, if you are the typical progressive, we'll run the other way. I'm not surprised about you dear departed grandmother insulting you. She is probably ashamed of you as well.

David Abbot's picture
David Abbot 10 years 49 weeks ago
#24

I didn't say she was insulting me...

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