Occupy the planet!

Occupy the planet! Over the weekend – the Occupy Wall Street movement swept across the world – as hundreds of thousands of people took to the streets in Europe, South America, and Asia to push back against too much corporate power in government. In Rome – demonstrations turned violent – as police cars and a government building were torched causing over one million dollars in damage. Here in the United States – where protests have remained peaceful for a month – tens of thousands of people filled Times Square in New York City – and tens of thousands more occupied thousands of cities across the country. In at least four different cities – including New York City – Chicago – Denver – and Phoenix – hundreds of demonstrators were arrested for engaging in peaceful civil disobedience.

After decades of globalism and the emergence of an international banking system that has made transnational corporations and their CEOs mind-boggling rich but destroyed the social fabric of nations across the world – the backlash is now well underway. This is a time of social, political, and economic revolution and the forward march of history, like water running down a mountainside, can't be stopped.

In a few years, this world will be a very different place than it is today.

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teneraansis's picture
teneraansis 9 years 49 weeks ago
#1

Obviously the nature of America's problem is also the world's problem, speaking of banking fraud. America's discontent is also the world's discontent. So please read this on banks and elections:

The anger against outrageous banking practices is now becoming visible throughout the world in OWS-type protests, and is fully justified. Banks indeed use their money-creation trick to loot people's real assets, thereby shifting legal ownership away from the people by foreclosing on all those defaulting on their loans. Bankers have never once pounded a single nail into any timber of all the homes they drive their owners out of. People build assests, not banks. Having said so, we must be careful not to burn down the house we live in unless we have another one to move into. Calling for a boycott of the banks is not the way to go, because if we block the people's access to their daily banking operations or encourage them to pull out all their deposits in cash - then what? From that point on many auto-deposits to pensioners, workers, etc. could not be made by governments and industry, and all banking activity for mere survival would be prevented. So a boycott out of the blue is not the answer.

How then can we lick the banking tyranny without kicking down the doors to our streetcorner banks? The banking system is a hierarchy, a pyramid-of-power system, controlled from the top down and forced from there upon the people. Therefore, to remedy this situation, as cygnus1 suggested, we need to set up first a people's (99%) parallel government backed by all police and military forces, and then proceed to expell all 1%'ers out of their positions of control throughout the banking and governmental systems. Only then will the transition from today's order of iniquity become replaced with a temporary system which will work in the interest of the people, and only then can all debts and mortgages safely become erased which are now being used to steal assets from the people to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Such a move will not include the destruction of buildings, computers and other infrastructure already in place. It will merely replace the people now running it in their own selfish interests with new ones on the basis of ethics and compassion for the people.

The people of the United States need to understand that see-saw'ing between Republicans and Democrats will not solve any of their political problems. The election of Obama is a classic example of the impotence of the U.S. electorate to effect a change for the better. The power structure of Washington has for a long time ceased to function in the interests of the people, but caters to all interests of the 1% who now legally own and control all assets stolen from the people by the money-trick which I explained in item 1). In my opinion no more elections ought to be held in the U.S. until the people have succeeded to set up their own government backed by the military and police forces. That's all I have to say at this time.

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cygnus1 9 years 49 weeks ago
#2

In addition to that, which, Teneraansis has spoken is the understanding that the people's shadow government, before it comes to the fore, must not think that the ones who occupy those positions are there for their own benefit, for whenever you work with any type of money system you will have people at all levels who become self-challanged in becoming power hungry and will abuse that right.

Positions in the shadow government of the people are only temporary. The men and women who occupy that government must realise that the police and military still work with the people and not for them. In this way they will be kept in line by the people as they temporarily carry out their tasks.

The shadow government is ONLY A TRANSITIONAL GOVERNMENT to take the people comfortably from the situation they find themselves in now (with governments who do not belong to the people but to the 1%), and the new system of the Purchase Order, of which will be explained later.

Remember, as you call on the governments in your country, the ones belonging to the 1%, to help you, you call upon the wrong people. THEY ARE NOT YOUR GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE at all, therefore do not call upon them to fix anything for you, the people - YOU MUST FIX IT YOURSELVES.

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joanverdon 9 years 49 weeks ago
#3

How about promoting moving $$ from banks to Credit Unions - let people know how quick and easy it is to open credit card accounts and how easy and FREE it is to make withdrawals (convenient locations). Thomm, please have guests on your show to give people the facts of how they can do it?

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Palindromedary 9 years 49 weeks ago
#4

"What kind of nation is it that spends far more to kill enemy combatants and Afghan and Iraqi civilians than it does to help its own citizens who live below the poverty line? What kind of nation is it that permits corporations to hold sick children hostage while their parents frantically bankrupt themselves to save their sons and daughters? What kind of nation is it that tosses its mentally ill onto urban heating grates? What kind of nation is it that abandons its unemployed while it loots its treasury on behalf of speculators? What kind of nation is it that ignores due process to torture and assassinate its own citizens? What kind of nation is it that refuses to halt the destruction of the ecosystem by the fossil fuel industry, dooming our children and our children’s children?"

"The faux liberal reformers, whose abject failure to stand up for the rights of the poor and the working class, have signed on to this movement because they fear becoming irrelevant. Union leaders, who pull down salaries five times that of the rank and file as they bargain away rights and benefits, know the foundations are shaking. So do Democratic politicians from Barack Obama to Nancy Pelosi. So do the array of “liberal” groups and institutions, including the press, that have worked to funnel discontented voters back into the swamp of electoral politics and mocked those who called for profound structural reform."

"Liberals lack the vision and fortitude to challenge dominant free market ideologies.They have no ideological alternatives even as the Democratic Party openly betrays every principle the liberal class claims to espouse, from universal health care to an end to our permanent war economy to a demand for quality and affordable public education to a return of civil liberties to a demand for jobs and welfare of the working class. The corporate state forced the liberal class to join in the nation’s death march that began with the presidency of Ronald Reagan. Liberals such as Bill Clinton, for corporate money, accelerated the dismantling of our manufacturing base, the gutting of our regulatory agencies, the destruction of our social service programs and the empowerment of speculators who have trashed our economy. The liberal class, stripped of power, could only retreat into its atrophied institutions, where it busied itself with the boutique activism of political correctness and embraced positions it had previously condemned."

--Chris Hedges

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/a_movement_too_big_to_fail_20111017/

While the rich were waging a class war on the rest of us, the "liberal" institutions were wimpering..."can't we all just get along?" It looks now like the people are finally beginning to say to hell with the faux liberal institutions and are now waging war on both institutions that have failed us. And now some of those "liberal" institutions, who were either bought off by the other side or who were too namby pamby to really fight back...finding ways to pretend to be on our side by their weasel words and lies..while the rich were winning their class war, want to barge in and take some credit. Time for all hell to break lose is now! And it seems to be happening now.

And you think it will make any difference by voting Obama back into office in 2012? That slick tongued weasel just screwed us on behalf of his rich puppet-masters while feeding us lies and deceptions...and you think we have no other choice but to vote for Obama? If it were not for Obama (preaching false hope), the people would have raised up and rebelled years ago...like when they gave away all those billions to the banks and Wall Street. They are not done shelling out money to failed big-time gamblers...they will have to have more "bail-outs" squeezing us even more. The wolves go after the easy prey...they ones too weak to fight back. But there is strength in numbers...if they are not psychologically crippled by propaganda that all we have to do is vote. Voting doesn't work in a corrupt system. It actually works against you.

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stonesphear 9 years 49 weeks ago
#5

Water seeks it's own level. In the past the USA has served more as an Artesian Well than a lake ------- Times change.

You got to know when to hold em' , know when to fold em' , know when to walk away and know when to run.

You never count your money when your sittin' at the table, there'll be time enough for countin' when the dealins' done.

Kenny Rogers.

It's Been rainin' in the mountains and the river's on the rise

And we can't hardly reach the other side.

The Devil, he's in trouble ; I can see it in his eyes.

If you don't give him shelter, he'll have no place to hide.

Hoyt Axton.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=HjViaLiax2s

teneraansis's picture
teneraansis 9 years 49 weeks ago
#6

Joanverdon, if you understood that the money system of today works like a huge vacuum cleaner, sucking cash out of circulation via interest charges on all debts, you would not have suggested for people to transfer their accounts from banks to credit unions. Under your proposal cash in circulation would remain vulnerable of disappearing, and would not remedy any of today' hardship situations of unemployment and homelessness.

Secondly, although I realise you speak of Thom Hartmann's TV show when you ask him to find people able to "give facts", do not dismiss as irrelevant the strength of intelligence coming from people posting on this forum. Some of us know how "it" can be done, should you be speaking of removing the power of the 1% and returning "it" to the people where "it" belongs.

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Drew Peacock 9 years 49 weeks ago
#7

"Blessed are those who, in the face of death, focus on the front sight." - Col. Jeff Cooper

cygnus1's picture
cygnus1 9 years 49 weeks ago
#8

Palindromedary, Excellent post!

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cygnus1 9 years 49 weeks ago
#9

Stonesphere, poetry has long been used to describe a situation or an event going on right infront of the people. Your posting in this effect certainly describes the Revolution and adds to the oneness of unity which we are all trying to achieve.

MountainCatBob's picture
MountainCatBob 9 years 49 weeks ago
#10

YES!

We WILL change the world. Remember we are the 99%! On July 4, 2012, we hope to assemble for our first national assembly to present our greivences to congress, the president, the supreme court, and to all the people running for office in the 2012 elections. This is our constitutional right! If our greivences are not redressed, we plan to form a new political party which will subsequently make the required changes to our government and eventually change the fabric of our society.

delster's picture
delster 9 years 49 weeks ago
#11

Some how, for those us with inconvenient schedules and want to participate but find scheduling and transportation difficult, it would be nice if shuttles or limo services or bus companies could help supporters in shifts with special trips to and from the demonstrations. Those giving there full attention to the cause could have a rest/ break and attend their families while a evening or morning shift arrives. It would be great to see power suites, hard hats, scrubs, and coveralls participate so that workers and the managers could be represented. This democratic participation by everyone will be good for everyone. In the classic Beattle Tune "Revolution" I believe the important quote is "if ya talk about destruction. Don't ya know that you can count me out. " The more individual protesters that are cool and law abiding the better the point will be made. Validation for the cause.

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what now toons 9 years 49 weeks ago
#12

Yessssssssssssss, a real peoples movement is afoot. Yet the corporate controlled media continues to say there is no clear message, well if you cover your ears and yell I can't hear you over and over, you get the mainstream coverage we are getting on this most important topic. ( My latest toon is about the media & the global Occupy Wall Street Protests this Saturday)www.whatnowtoons.comLeft of center independent political cartoons

robbrian's picture
robbrian 9 years 49 weeks ago
#13

You will enjoy, if you have not already read, Thomas Greco, Jr., author of "End of Money and the Beginning of Civilization.

robbrian's picture
robbrian 9 years 49 weeks ago
#14

Yes, a violent turn at this juncture would call out the forces, now privately screaming at the Administration, for the declaration of martial law leading to a continuation of the evisceration of 1st amendment right we all enjoy. Non-violence drives the 1%ers crazy. They have no justification under law to prevent the peaceful assembly and petition to our government. We must adopt the gradualism of Ghandi, the eloquence and purposeful passion of MLK, and above all the Jeffersonian-multi-level agenda detailing the economic, social, and political issues which must be part of the #OWS Reformation.

teneraansis's picture
teneraansis 9 years 49 weeks ago
#15

Hello my friend MountainCatBob. I am happy to learn of your optimism for the ultimate victory of the 99%. But changing the system via "forming a new political party" and using the existing electoral system in hopes to eventually gain control over the political machine will not work, for the old geezers in real political power over Washington never need to run for election. They may not even live in the United States. They pay off the elected ones with their money lure, only to once again make the elected representatives subservient, and if the latter still refuse to comply to their dictates, the former then prescribe concrete boots and give them swimming lessons in the nearest big river.

No, no, this time don't waste your time in following due process of law - they don't - but go right at the heart of the power structure of world dominion by the 1%'ers, using your own military and police forces. If you can persuade them to protect the people rather than fighting the people, then you and your friends will easily have gained the upper hand.

teneraansis's picture
teneraansis 9 years 49 weeks ago
#16

Excellent point, delster!

stonesphear's picture
stonesphear 9 years 49 weeks ago
#17

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=HjViaLiax2s

But wait there is more:

Goggle "HHO" for example, if you need more room to move.

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CCSeazephyr 9 years 49 weeks ago
#18

A democratic system of governance such as one based on the principles of AA's 12 Traditions is anarchistic, which is to say, without hierarchy, not as is commonly misunderstood, chaotic. Governance arises out of rotating uncompensated service to the people. If one is able to put aside misconceptions of AA being a cult and a bastion of religion, the so-called 12 Traditions may be one of many sources of guidance toward a new democratic society, much like the assemblies being held in the OWS sites around the country. I, for one, am for anarchy in the true meaning of the word.

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cygnus1 9 years 49 weeks ago
#19

Smashing store windows, burning cars, and the like is definitely not the way to go. However, you may notice that the police do not recognise peaceful demonstrations. The people are battoned, locked-up, run over by motorcycles and horses. So, you need the U.S. military back working alongside the people, protecting the people, in order to stop these wicked acts against the people by the police, through the removing the 1% and their workers right out of office from the top of the ladder to the bottom.

The people cannot rise up against the U.S. military working for the 1%. Those military are not of the American Constitution. They are the military of the 1%. We cannot stress this enough. The U.S. military MUST JOIN BACK WITH THE PEOPLE; their parents, their sons and daughters, grandparents, uncles, aunts, husbands and wives.

The police must do likewise.

The people who work for the 1% do not respect either type of Revolution, peaceful or otherwise and they never will. Without your own military and police force back working alongside you, the people, you will never gain the upper hand. It is the system which must be thrown out. Without this taking place, any who try to stand for the people will only fail as the 1% stomps on one party after the other utilizing different methods.

It is important also that people such as "Chalaby" in Iraq do not use the Revolution to take power and elevated living privilages to themselves in the guise of "helping the people."

You do not have a government of the people in the United States. The government in the White House do not work for you therefore they do not listen to you, the people.

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PhilipHenderson 9 years 49 weeks ago
#20

Are they listening? Probably not. These bankers are tone deaf to the experiences of ordinary people. Think about it. These are the same guys who believed that derivatives were a good idea. They are idiots. They started the ball rolling for their own demise and then only were saved because George W. Bush was willing to hand them a $700 billion bailout, no questions asked.

They have become "too big to fail." They should be broken up into many smaller entities that are not too big to fail. Then, they should be allowed to fail if they misbehave again. What is wrong with repairing a systemic problem? Any organization that is deemed too big to fail is by definition too large to exist. Let's act in the best interests of everyone. Save these banking fools from their own stupid behavior. Find one banker today who will tell you that derivatives were a good idea.

If they were stupid enough to build derivatives, who knows what they may do next. When some of the smarter bankers warned those at the top that this derivative game was going to bust, those smart bankers were fired. They were not going to allow people with good sense to tell them how to operate their banking business.

Occupy Wall Street will have succeeded when the Attorney General of the United States brings indictments against the leaders of these banks. These bankers essentially robbed the banks they ran. Why should they be trusted to continue leading the banks they robbed the last go around.

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Jeff Saxton 9 years 49 weeks ago
#21

Our political system is broken. As a people, Americans now identify themselves with some label rather than as Americans. Significant political discourse has largely broken down, not just in Congress, but between many in our country. My belief is that significant change needs for the citizenry to take back our government!

1: Unfortunately, the Wall St protest is "pigeon-holed" as a leftist movement. Analysts say that most in this movement blame the bankers while most in the TEA Party blame the politicians. But the ultimate responsibility (& blame, if you want to play that game), originates with American citizenry! What all sides want is accountability & representation. The Wall St protesters should be declaring they WANT the TEA Party present, since their ultimate goal is the same thing, to have fair representation! Unfortunately, much of the impetus of the TEA Party was hijacked by political & monied interests. The Wall St protest wasn't against business, it was against a political system that allowed them, the banking & financial institutions to have more political rights than American citizens. I think THAT'S something most citizens, regardless where they stand on the political spectrum, would support. And by passing the two amendments I suggest below (or some improved variation), makes our system more accountable to its citizens & less accountable to money.

2: A Constitutional Amendment needs to be passed to make all lobbying illegal as it is in the UK which has a vibrant democracy. This will prevent so many in Congress, from various administrations & members of the military from getting a "gravy train" job following their tenure in government, such as Billy Tobin did after driving through G.W. Bush's Medicare Part D through Congress. This will not eliminate some "gravy train" corruption since some government employees can be compensated for "selling out" the best interests of American citizens when they take private sector jobs, but at least their won't be hundreds of K Street lobbyists representing the monied interests. If SCOTUS wants corporations to have a voice, they can do so directly, not with paid hacks.

3: Another Constitutional Amendment outlawing all political ads by political parties & anyone else, on all media (TV, cable, radio, etc), with the exception being the internet & maybe print media, like newspapers. In the UK, there are NO TV & radio political ads! This will be extremely difficult to pass, considering the amount of money involved, but think of the benefits! No longer will money represent the ability to buy politicians (even the "honest" ones must be influenced by this payola), and to get their message across, politicians will have to rely on town meetings, flyers, the internet & perhaps newspapers (who could use an infusion of need cash). This would free up races to those without huge "war chests" & would make politicians more accountable to the people they serve. And remember, Amendments trump everything, including SCOTUS! They can only interpret the Constitution, they can't declare any part of it "unconstitutional".

Signed,

An American Citizen (my first, middle & last names).

PS: My political email is jeffs.speakout@gmail.com. Please do not expect me to friend anybody I don't know on Facebook or any other form of social media.

leighmf's picture
leighmf 9 years 49 weeks ago
#22

The meek shall inherit the earth.

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John Steinsvold 9 years 49 weeks ago
#23

An Alternative to Capitalism (if the people knew about it, they would demand it)

Several decades ago, Margaret Thatcher claimed: "There is no alternative". She was referring to capitalism. Today, this negative attitude still persists.

I would like to offer an alternative to capitalism for the American people to consider. Please click on the following link. It will take you to an essay titled: "Home of the Brave?" which was published by the Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

John Steinsvold
Perhaps in time the so-called dark ages will be thought of as including our own.--Georg C. Lichtenberg

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Pat Prachter 9 years 49 weeks ago
#24

New to rt news and Thomm's show. Sooooo happy to have finally found a site that speaks to me. Interested in some of the ideas here. For instance, if there is no genuine government to turn to for guidance, what can people do to change anything? If even a credit union is useless because it still deals with money, how do you save up your wealth? Looking forward to all answers. Hoping to join in the conversation once I get a little bit more confident. Thomm: I've been watching your show for the past few months and have purchased several of your books. Very impressed and want to say 'thank you' for teaching people so much about these important issues.

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2950-10K 9 years 49 weeks ago
#25

A great start and excellent indicator that real change is on the way would be the removal of Scott Walker from his Govt. job. The next step would be removal of all regressive politicians such as McConnell, RE-CANTOR, Ryan, etc. Replacement of these individuals with progressive common sense thinkers like Senator Sanders would restore representative democracy for the 99%.

The aiding and abetting of Bankster fraud by means of purchased political favor should be prosecuted as a crime and financial restitution made to the millions of victims. Political misconduct or conflict of interest by Supreme Court Judges is a crime to be taken serious leading to grounds for removal.

Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland, and France are all fine examples of economy and society being run democratically to meet the needs of the public, instead of profits for a few. DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM which is pure DEMOCRACY is hopefully the change headed our way!

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cygnus1 9 years 49 weeks ago
#26

If you would be interested here are the short version of the Five Steps of the Revolution:

But you can have an agenda if you want it and one which will work! You do have a coherent message and you are giving it to the 1% and their millions of workers. Only their arrogance and complete lack of understanding of the people will be their downfall for the 1% and their millions of eyes are losing all gravitational control! By lying to themselves, the bankers are trying to comfort each other, but instead, we see, they are shaking in their boots!

Here are the five steps again:

1) Oneness in Unity is the First Step

2) Quantitative easing which is the creation of money by the stroke of a pen (making book entries and calling these dollars) FOR THE PEOPLE, THROUGH THE WILL AND ACTION OF THE PEOPLE! This is the Second Step.

3) Turn the U.S. military (who are your own sons and daughter) and are run by the 1%, turn them back into your own military to work with the people, for the people and their future generations. This is the Third Step.

4) Then you can legally surround the 1% and it's millions of working eyes on every level who work against the people and remove them into the concentration camps they have secretly built for you, the people of the United States of America. You will then take back your courts, release the innocent from your jails and in time shut them down for where there is no poverty, there is no crime. Those who are criminally insane will be dealt with on a different level.This is the Fourth Step.

5) Create a People's Shadow Government. This is the Fifth Step.

For full explaination on these Five Steps along with another, please see the Forums (or blogs) below this one: :

Cygnus1 and the five steps #14, #24, #29, # 31, #32 I have created on the forum below.:

http://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2011/10/violent-police-crackdown-against-99-movement-middle-night-boston = This is the headline just below the one for this forum. Just go into Tom's blog and look up this link. Tell me if you cannot find it. Below this is another post to go along with the Five Steps which I am sure you will find equally important. PLEASE DO NOT LOSE YOUR FREE SPEECH! IT IS THE LAST THING TO NOW GO!

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teneraansis 9 years 49 weeks ago
#27

"Too Big to Fail" Statement is a Contradiction Mind Bender! It is widely in use among (lying or ignorant) politicians to justify trillions of dollars to be handed over under banking control, allegedly to re-capitalize banks with funds for lending to the public, and all this under the auspices of a Government having to "borrow" the trillions against the taxpayers with interest, from the banks (in this case Federal Reserve) in the first place.

Explain this: If the Federal Reserve, which is a bank, can create trillions for the Government to hand over to other "banks" (too big to fail) then why bail them out while these other banks have the same power to create funds as the Federal Reserve Bank? All "toxic" loans were at the time created as new funds "out of thin air" by these "other banks", considered "too big to fail." So then, why bail a bank out which by its very nature is incapable of failing as it sits on its own infinite source of funds available "with the stroke of a pen," or a "click on a computer mouse"?

Whow!! Is the action of "bailing out banks" ever a wagon load full of contradictions. When the banks received all this bail-out money, they did not spend it on infusing the public with credit in the form of new loans, they spent it on their cronies, the stockholders and investors, to bail them out from falling stock prices, and in that manner funding them with all this "free" money to snap up lots of gold for an even greater financial windfall to themselves as gold has risen to over $1.800.00/ounce. Criminal activity, in my opinion. From that a whole bunch more super-rich individuals are today the legitimate owners of many more billions in their own personal offshore bank accounts as a consequence of this fraud. But that is merely a sorry side-story of the "too big to fail" philosophy.

The mind-bender aspect of this phrase lies in the fact that firstly: a bank cannot fail!! Bankers want the public to believe this, and so the ignorant politicians believe it, thinking they have to come to the rescue of a bank! A bank's business is the creation of funds out of thin air as they are legally permitted to multiply their deposits by a factor of 10 or more, and have those amounts then available for lending to the public. They create funds like a steel mill produces steel and have no requirement for becoming "rescued" by any government.

When a politician says "too big to fail", he (or she) presents to the public the false assumption that a bank operates like any other business - subject to balancing income and expenditures, which is a false assumption. These uninformed politicians use the lie as an excuse to fleece the taxpayers and saddle them with trillions of more unnecessary debt, which translates into an increase in taxes upon the present and future generations. The politician is either a lying crook or sincerely duped. The latter is probably so in most cases.

And is there any wonder that the fleeced 99% of this world's population are beginning to rise up against these thieving crooks? Should we succeed to let these dear people understand exactly what is being done to them by the defunct lying system, then their motivation for an effective rebellion will multiply at the expense of the fleecing 1%.

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2950-10K 9 years 49 weeks ago
#28

My current optimism obliges me to thank the following for having enough extreme sociopathic behaviour,...... "greed and thirst for power,"...... to piss off the whole world. Their self-puffery has finally created an atmosphere conducive for the rebirth of DEMOCRACY.

Dick and George ,Phil and Wendy, Charles and David, Roger and Rupert, John, Sam, Anthony, Clarence and Antonin, Rush... the list goes on but all so infamous we only need the first names.

By the way more corp. media denial......"So far, probably fewer people have participated in all of them combined...."occupy protests"... than attended one Tea Party rally. GEORGE WILLS... Gannett ...in a local paper!

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turtlemother 9 years 49 weeks ago
#29

yes, indeed, but you should form the new party anyway, and right away...

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Palindromedary 9 years 49 weeks ago
#30

"The meek shall inherit the earth?"
Yeah, maybe, but all they will get is leftovers...if that. It might end up being a burned out cinder and cesspool...who will want that?

I think the problem is, and always has been, that the meek are their own biggest problem...they're meek. They let the Romans...or anyone else run roughshod over them. The Romans still control a large part of the population, after all these years, because they were able to control propaganda...feed people with "don't worry about your miserable and bleak existence of exploitation here on earth because you will get your rewards in heaven"...and "give unto Caeser...what is Caesars"....and "don't rebel against your masters". If you pride yourself for being meek...Jesus-like, if you will, then the few who excel at being greedy and rapacious along with devious and cunning will love it that you are so easily psyched into inferior positions that makes it easy for them to take advantage of you. But then, those aspiring saints are often conflicted with the want of material things, tempted by the devil perhaps, and resort to a kind of hypocritical existence. Some have even "risien?" to such saintly heights as heads of banks and big-time gamblers of OPM (other people's money) at Wall Street. They may see themselves as "doing God's work" and despise all of the little people who are nothing but a bunch of lazy losers who deserve their plight....greedy little maggots who think they deserve to have a decent shelter, food, and medical care.

The modern-day Roman Empire continues to psyche us into a kind of voluntary slavery...tempting us with the tantalizing dreams of having the good life...with all of the material things we are induced to want. Constant psychological pressure to want this or that by marketing hype...a constant barrage of advertizing..honed by legions of psychologists on the payroll of these companies...keep us all addicted to collecting so many things that they mostly end up as cluttering junk...we need bigger houses to hold it all. The psychological marketing of real estate and banks to get you hooked into believing you have to sell your soul, rather your future, into buying a house...or maybe even "moving up" keep you hypnotized, zombie-like, into signing on the dotted line.

And then, when we are all indebted to the gills, indebted to a life of slavery, of debts we owe, and a continued history of squeezing the wages and salaries to our inability to feed our families, the gamblers wreck the markets, valuations of our "investments" fall but our liabilities continue. We are caught between a rock and a hard place...and the rich have the gall to claim that it is all "our fault". What? For going along and believing in the capitalist religion and marketing ploys that the rich entrapped us with in the first place? When advertising deviates from just informing people of the availability of their products to psychologically hooking you into believing you can't live without it, or you will smell bad, or you will look silly because you are the only one on the block without it, or it will save your life, your sex life, or your economic well-being then the rich, who strove to benefit from deceiving you, should not be able to turn around and blame the people for being impoverished because of their marketing hype. Real Estate and bankers were especially bad at convincing us that we had better buy now or never be able to buy a house because the prices would continually go out of sight. Many of these real estate people and banksters knew that their house of cards would, or "the bubble", would eventually disintegrate leaving millions in the condition they are in now. They knew it! They planned it! And now they need to suffer our wrath! The many against the few who screwed us for their selfish greed!

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ppen 9 years 49 weeks ago
#31

hi Thom your one page asks for opinions on how occupy will unfold.......

just as any closed minded hate filled individual arguing for the pros of this system. the elite due to ignorance will do everything they can to put us down.. never will they accept the views of the left, or that maybe they have been wrong and brainwashed, even if God told them directly. Considering they own the government and hence the police and military things will not change without major bloodshed. people have been trained and brainwashed to be sheep and its so very sad that most will go away at the first signs of the billy bat or tear gaz. oh how i pray nightly for a peaceful solution but only God can stop this now..

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ppen 9 years 49 weeks ago
#32

hi Thom your one page asks for opinions on how occupy will unfold.......

just as any closed minded hate filled individual arguing for the pros of this system. the elite due to ignorance will do everything they can to put us down.. never will they accept the views of the left, or that maybe they have been wrong and brainwashed, even if God told them directly. Considering they own the government and hence the police and military things will not change without major bloodshed. people have been trained and brainwashed to be sheep and its so very sad that most will go away at the first signs of the billy bat or tear gaz. oh how i pray nightly for a peaceful solution but only God can stop this now..

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teneraansis 9 years 49 weeks ago
#33

And What Does the New World After the Revolution Look Like?

An inexperienced driver loses control of his new automobile and plows its front end into a brick building. The damage to the car is severe, but an assessment on the vehicle dictates that it is more cost efficient to repair the vehicle rather than write it off. And so finally the insurance company decides to entrust the repair of the vehicle to a competent auto body repair shop.

This scenario repeats itself daily thousands of times world-wide. However in this analogy the only thing we will do differently from what an insurance company usually does is that WE WILL NOT RETURN THE REPAIRED VEHICLE BACK INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEXPERIENCED DRIVER, BUT RATHER ENTRUST THE AUTOMOBILE INTO THE HANDS OF SOMEONE WITH A DRIVING RECORD TO MATCH AND WORTHY OF HANDLING A NEW VEHICLE!

The inexperienced driver is the current financial order. The automobile they drive is this world. The damage they do is to the people they govern and the earth's environment. The price the people pay for being governed without competency is their shattered lives and the erosion of earth as their habitat. The new driver is the New Guard which is changing and ready to take over the wheel.

The restoration of the vehicle is...

* the removal of the money system to occur after quantitative easing on behalf of the people has restored economic balance to the people. It will translate into the abolition of taxes, usury and debts,

* the introduction of the purchase order as means of payment,

* the people's free access to food, housing, transportation, clothing, etc. etc. etc.,

* a restoration of truth in that the people will be taught in truth.

The above of which will create...

* a society without crime,

* a restoration of true love,

* a restoration of true justice, which makes allowance for forgiveness, compassion, and restitution,

* peace among nations, which will see their borders become increasingly irrelevant,

* a restoration of the sisterhood of man as an equal partner to that of the brotherhood,

* allowance for benefiting from man's brain capacity without government and corporate red tape,

* PEACE in the family, the nation, and the world.

Many qualified soul structures are standing by to take over from the "old (neglectful-in-their-duty) guards," who failed to protect the interests of the people for a decent livelihood. So now, at the end of this millennium the old guard will be forced to step aside, and the direction this world will be going becomes corrected to assure this "automobile" will be steered into a place of its intended destiny: A NEW WORLD IN PEACE!

For their own good the people of this earth just better get used to the fact that these "qualified soul structures" consist of leaders (seen or unseen by the public eye).

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cygnus1 9 years 49 weeks ago
#34

Palindromedary, Another Excellent article! Between yourself and Teneraansis, your intellect teaches with understanding, wisdom, and no-nonsense. This is very much a no-nonsense situation as people gather and are abused and locked up for their Constitutional right through peaceful Revolution.The military, "the people's" own U.S. military, need be brought back to their side in order to protect the people and clean the nations of all those who work for the 1% including the 1%, and we are hoping the people, including the military, will eventually come to see that this is the only way. The people will change nothing by forming new political parties, other than become corrupt themselves as we have seen throughout history. Why? Because the 1% run each and every system in the world and when a world leader steps out of line in doing something wonderful for the people as President Kennedy and President Abraham Lincoln did in applying quantitative easing (for which they were both murdered) for the people, they do not last long on this earth for having other nations' militaries thrown at their own.

This is what happened; President Lincoln tried to free the slaves in the south. He went to the London bankers and asked for the funds to finance his war effort. The London bankers said to him: 'Yes, we will lend you the money at 20% interest per annum (per year). President Lincoln then retorted figuratively speaking to "go fly a kite." President Lincoln then turned around and utilized quantitative easing by creating his own funds to finance the war effort. For that the 1% murdered him. That is why he was loved. Not because he won the war against the south but because he got the people out from underfoot to the British bankers. And they were the 1% then whose decendants are today ruling the world.

So the U.S. military and its various sections must align themselves back with the people, otherwise one would have nothing more than a civil war which would accomplish nothing. We could say that the U.S. had a split military at the time of the civil war and we would be quite correct. But now, today, you have only one U.S. military albeit presently in the hands of the 1%. President Lincoln did not even have this advantage.

The American civil war brought about no change in the economy, not only because the plantation farmers in the south did not want to work industrially with the merchants in the north, but because Abraham Lincoln could no longer continue with his quantitative easing program for the people. The ones in Washington worked against him in more ways than one and so Washington, D.C., already had by that time became a cesspool of workers within the millions of eyes working for the great 1% which Benjamin Franklin had already warned the people about. To make life even all the harder, the Mafia got to work in the government, threatening, and working with payoffs to those who eventually came onto their own bankrolls.

You can reason with the people, but some people will nontheless dig in their heels and go contrary to all logic and sensibility. Many people are estranged of good common sense. This is why most past Revolutions have brought about an element of change, but have really not dealt with the problem, nor brought about a viable and long standing solution.

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(I may bold this later to make it easier to read but for now I have words highlighted)

Sprague 9 years 49 weeks ago
#35

Plutocracy: Government by the wealthy.

I want my country back!!! End Plutocracy!

All of the complaints about the transfer of wealth to the already wealthy are the results of Plutocracy.

Corporations are not the problem. Capitalism is not the problem. The Wealthy polluters wanting regulations reduced or eliminnated, Wealthy Financiers wanting a bailout, Wealthy Executives wanting tax cuts, Wealthy Mine Operators wanting safety regulations reduced, and Wealthy Meat processors allowed to add "Pink Slime" to ground beef and using their wealth to get what they want is the problem.

The Wealthy "Govern" by hiring Lobbiests and by donating to support the (re)election of Legislators who pass laws that benefit them and by donating to OPPOSE the (re)election of Legislators who don't pass laws wanted by the Wealthy.

I want my country back!!! End Plutocracy!

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Palindromedary 9 years 49 weeks ago
#36

Cygnus1: That was very interesting about Lincoln...I never knew about this side of the story...I will have to read more about it. Fascinating! Thanks! Looks like the idea of American Presidents not playing ball with the 1% can be very dangerous for them. The 1% are ruthless bunch of cutthroats that will stop at nothing...including assassinations and planning and engineering false flag operations such as 911.

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teneraansis 9 years 49 weeks ago
#37

I feel the need to add to this post of mine one more thing: THE INTERNATIONAL MONEY ORDER IS GLOBAL PUBLIC PROPERTY! All people of this planet must use it to survive. All have need of it to even exist! Anyone having no money might as well be dead!! And those who indeed have none, have also lost their right to life, which by all international standards of rights and dignity of the human being is (on paper at least) guaranteed and allegedly protected. THE GLOBAL FUNCTION OF THE INTERNATIONAL MONEY ORDER OF TODAY DENIES ALL WHICH IS SACRED TO BEING A MEMBER OF EARTH'S HUMAN FAMILY!

The only possible conclusion from this reality is the fact that in light of it THE GLOBAL MONEY SYSTEM DOES NOT BELONG TO THE 1%'ers of this world to enrich themselves only, IT BELONGS INDEED TO ALL OF US!! Therefore no group which calls itself "privileged" or "distinct from the rest (the "rest" in this case meaning the majority 99%'ers) can rightfully claim ownership of all of this world's money - just because they have created it "by the stroke of a pen".

Well then, what are we, the 99%'ers, going to do about it? WE WILL REMOVE THE 1%'ers OUT OF THEIR POSITIONS OF POWER WHICH THEY HAVE ALWAYS ABUSED AGAINST THE NATURAL INTERESTS OF THE PEOPLE! We will use our militaries and police forces to do this in conjuction with all intelligence information provided by the people as well as the people's national security offices. The term "National Security" from now on will mean: SECURITY OF THE PEOPLE OF THE NATION!

The positions becoming vacant at that point must temporarily be filled with men and women of intelligence and purity, uncorruptable and honourable, patriots to peace and happiness of all people, men and women worthy of holding that kind of position of public trust, people who understand that money is public property and as such not to be controlled for destructive purposes!

After we, the people, have accomplished this simple feat, we then shall implement new ideas for even greater happiness of all people.

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robbrian 6 years 43 weeks ago
#38

How can a majority black community allow white leadership for so long??? They are too lazy to organize and vote for change.

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