Occupy America, Occupy Everywhere...
By louisehartmann
Occupy America, Occupy Everywhere. The 99% movement took to the streets – and bridges – around the country yesterday to commemorate the two-month anniversary of the movement. And judging from the size of the crowds – estimated in New York City anywhere between 35,000 and 50,000 people – it’s clear the movement has just grown stronger and stronger over the last two month.
The day of action included marches on Wall Street in New York City – followed by a march across the Brooklyn Bridge – the same place where a month ago 700 patriots were arrested for engaging in civil disobedience. But last night – it was a different story as thousands – alongside families and children and senior citizens – peacefully crossed the bridge into Brooklyn and in some cases were even welcomed by police officers. Unfortunately – the same can’t be said about the earlier demonstrations in the day – when there were several reports of police brutality – and upwards of 300 people were arrested.
One of those people arrested was the President of the SEIU – Mary Kay Henry – who touts a membership of 1.8 million unionized workers. Meanwhile – in Los Angeles there were mass arrests as thousands marched through downtown and shut down traffic. And in Washington, DC – hundreds marched through the city and across the Key Bridge into nearby Virginia. Bridges were a theme of the demonstrations around the country yesterday to raise awareness of America’s crumbling infrastructure and the need to put people back to work rebuilding the nation. So now that the movement has survived two months – and appears stronger than ever – it’s anyone’s guess just how far it can go from here.
Comments
#2
Lindaisatoothle, here are your words:
"I am behind the OWS, BUT - If this movement want to succeed with the rest of the americans which they need, they need to get the avg america behind them because too many are critizing the ows. OWS needs a leader, a spokesperson, someone that is a professional, someone that looks like a professional, someone that can speak like a professional, someone that has all the facts, someone that has solid opinions, someone clean cut and well dressed....as much as you shouldn't need this, sadly you do. If you can get this person to speak for OWS, you will gain much much more ground with the rest of the country. The rest of the country sees ows as a bunch of kids who are nothing more than scum, thats really how they're being portrayed. Get a spokesperson that I described for each state that OWS occupys. Trust me on this and do it and you will succeed, don't do it and the media will keep portraying ows and a bunch of worthless humans."
Lindaisatoothle, we do not believe the OWS are not being taken seriously. The OWS throughout these United States of America are being supported by Marines and other members of the Military, also members of the police force are slowly coming on board. It may have seemed initially to be a gathering of unhappy young people, but not any more.
You have good, constructive, and positive ideas. Unfortunately, if such a leader were to stand up and identify him or herself without the full protection of the Military, that spokesperson would be either arrested and removed from public view, or assassinated.
Even if each State had such a leading spokesperson, the result would be the same.
The foreign controlled U.S. Government has always employed the strategy of "taking out a leader" in order to disassemble their followers. Ruling powers have used the strategy of fragmenting their opposition, and will continue to do so until the Military take a stand against them. History has proven it to be so. It is time now for that history to not any longer be repeated.
However, what the peoples can do for themselves is to understand in a reasonable and sensible way that one road which will bring them the best life can offer.
You are so right, the OWS movement needs a leader with all the qualities you have described, however that particular leader must then also have iron-clad protection.
The people need their Military to stand between them and the 1% and their worker eyes, and in doing so understand the challenge and lead the people toward that end. - Cygnus1
#3
I hope it works better than putting a "Firewall" between investment banks and normal savings banks. All it took was a new law to destroy decades of what worked in favor of the majority of Americans. But, your idea sounds good. Except getting the rich to go for this idea will be just as hard..or harder...than trying to get them to pay their fair share of the taxes. There will be loopholes. But it's good that people have ideas. Now we just need more teeth! Teeth that will gnaw and rip to shreds the entrenched selfishness, greed, and corruption of the rich. How about a nice big guillotine. Viva la revolution!
#4
Yeah, and maybe after they get a real "leader" they can start receiving funding from the Koch brothers and then the Tea Party can take over and direct things...huh? Or, maybe the disgraced, and corrupt, Democrat Party, specifically Obama, can take over and make more empty promises...if we just disband and agree to march to the drum of a "leader"! ;-{
I think that the fact that the OWS doesn't have a leader...one that will tend to hog all the glory...and, if funding came into the picture, a lot of the money that he/she/it will manage to skim....having a leader could be, perhaps, the most destructive of an "organization"...or maybe I should say "disorganization". But it the "disorganization" is working...as it seems to be growing in numbers...in part, perhaps, because there are no leaders with their own selfish agendas or those that will probably have the backing of more narrow interests...like the Koch brothers. We voted for, and trusted, one "leader" who screwed us.
There are no "failed" and "corrupt" politicians, charismatic as they may be, to steer the groups into sure self annihilation. Having a "central authority" makes it easier for that "central authority" to "sell out" and take the wind out of the sails of the massive rebellion efforts.
There is just a growing, and widespread, anarchistic feeling that the old worn-out ways are corruptible and will sell out to the wealthiest interests.
The majority of Americans already side with OWS...and the majority of Americans do not believe that these demonstrators are just a bunch of hippies...even though there may be some attending these demonstrations upon which the news media is prone to highlight so that they can get some of their viewers to believing that it is just mainly a hippy thing. And hippies are Americans too...without them we would probably still be in Vietnam. And the lack of them, over the last 8 or so years, may be the reason why we have prolonged the wars in the Middle East.
I don't know...was the word Hippy an iatrogenic affliction or was it just a propagandistic term foisted upon a younger generation who protested the criminal war in Vietnam? I'm sure that a lot of jingoist, war-mongering old Republicans are probably still using the misnomer of "communist" to express their propagandistic induced brain-farts upon good and loyal citizens who have no where else to turn but to demonstrate.
The fact that some people view the OWS groups as hippies, and in a disdainful way, shows how they have been abused by the propagandistic system that has hooked and imprisoned the minds of Americans into working for, and accepting, a course of belief and action that is detrimental to his/her well-being. And they don't even know, or recognize, that this has been done to them.
Some ideas, thanks to years of media induced propaganda, get so deeply entrenched that it is easy to manipulate people years later by the use of various terms...keywords..."Manchurian Candidate code words" or Pavlovian suggestions to get people to react, psychologically or even hypnotically, to them.
The majority of the OWS demonstrators are not as malleable to the suggestive manipulations of the same code words because they are, on average, much younger. Many were not even born at the time when the term "hippy" was even being used. It is mostly the old people who have been so thoroughly propagandized with old-school terms like hippies, communists, radicals, subversives, anarchists, atheists, marijuana...."eeevvviillll" terms that when used, jerks some people's brains into a "Manchurian Candidate code word" fright that it activates the automaton nerve centers into overtime...which results in beliefs and actions that are contrary to their best interests.
Of course, the young people are highly manipulated as well but they have been largely manipulated to buy the latest iphone or flavored condom...their code words are marketing driven so that they just have to have the newest and latest communication gadget and app.
Of course, it is just these toys that are being used (along with the lowly home computer over the internet, of course) that are being monitored by control groups in the CIA and Pentagon. The smarter ones, who know the difference between a "regular expression" and a "sql injection", for example, might be harder to spy on.
Although, the internet can be used for large masses of people to communicate effectively...and for a real democracy that's what is needed. It is also being used by the "bad guys"...the 1%..the Fascists....and their useful idiots to keep tabs on, and manipulate what people think. They are using their useful idiots to interject poisoned ideas into the internet stream...into blogs...to put doubt into peoples minds about rebelling against them...to accept the status quo (of the ruling elite).
There has had no better way of monitoring what certain people believe, and what they are doing, or intend to do, than the internet. Since IBM supplied Hitler with tabulating machines and punched cards and a continued assistance in amassing information on the Jews and everyone else, which led to the very efficient and speedy identification and attempted annihilation of large masses of people, the modern day equivalent can be just as dangerous, or even more dangerous, to masses of people who are unaware of this.
#5
Thom and Louise, great reporting! There are many very positive comments in your article, which indeed should well serve to raise the number of People in joining the Occupation, and to heighten the Spirit of the Movement. Thank you sincerely. - Cygnus1
Excerpts:
"...And judging from the size of the crowds – estimated in New York City anywhere between 35,000 and 50,000 people – it’s clear the movement has just grown stronger and stronger over the last two month...
"...But last night – it was a different story as thousands – alongside families and children and senior citizens – peacefully crossed the bridge into Brooklyn and in some cases were even welcomed by police officers....
"...Mary Kay Henry – who touts a membership of 1.8 million unionized workers...
"...So now that the movement has survived two months – and appears stronger than ever – it’s anyone’s guess just how far it can go from here." end quote
Just look around the globe at how the Occupations have grown. In some cases, the Peoples are outnumbering the police. So if the Militaries of the World join with the Peoples, the days of the 1% are numbered, and the rebuilding of Paradise for the Peoples is on its way.
Whilst we are greatly saddened and aggravated that so many arrests of so many dear people have illegally taken place against the rights guaranteed by the Constitution, when the day comes whereby the real U.S. Military stands up for the rights of the Constitution and the Peoples, all will be FREED from the halls of injustice and from the jail and prison houses and those places will temporarily house instead all those who put the Patriots of these United States of America, there.
From the jails and prison houses such wicked ones will be tranported by trains (which are already in place) directly to the Concentration camps which the 1% built for all others, and then shall they, one by one, be brought before the Council of wise and knowledgeable men and women to be judged according to Universal Principle and Law. - Cygnus1
#6
It's one thing to make regulations but another to enforce them. And isn't it the government, itself, supposed to be that "firewall"...which has been bought out, and corrupted, by the ruling elite? And firewalls are good for keeping out the amateurs without the the tools for breaching firewalls...but even script kiddies can get the tools that, with little knowledge on their own, breach most firewalls and implant trojans using rootkit technology to hide from most virus checkers. This analogy can be applied to any government organization as well....and the ruling elite are not just script kiddies. Without a strong and honest government to begin with, that enforces their laws, even against the most wealthy and powerful...like banks, corporations, Wall Street, and the corrupting influence of the vested interests of other countries (hava, nagila)....no matter what regulation it has, it will be useless.
#7
Palindromedary, you are a brilliant writer. However, as we agree with most of what you write, you must remember that there is "righteous, uncorruptable" leadership throughout the world. Leadership in which acquiring money does not exist; leadership where love of power does not exist nor override the love of the Peoples; leadership which will participate only in progress the people have made under their guidance, and leadership which cannot be corrupted because such leaderships follow the example of their forefathers and foremothers from beyond this planet.
There are many working upon this planet in various capabilities waiting for the day when they can step out safely to lead, participate, and guide the Peoples of this small planet into a greater advancement of life beyond that which they have ever known.
We love what you said about the "hippies" of the 60's and their Protests against the war, and of course, we must remember the "defectors" for they went though hardship in facing arrest should they ever return home to these United States of America, and the Media and Military at that time did their best to blacken their reputation and name.- Cygnus1
#8
I worry about them using the bridges, considering their condition.
For less mobile protestors, a good mass FOIA action would be, ask the FDIC how to obtain a copy of the FDIC Certificate of your bank, or a receipt bearing the certificate number. Ask where is it written down since 1933, the origin of deposit insurance, which bank was assigned what Certificate Number. Ask, where is the Master File? These are logical questions which the FDIC cannot answer.
Those who have lost property can clog their county recorder's offices by doing their own abstract of title research from public records. Let the recorders teach you how to trace deeds to their origins. Let the tax assesssor explain how to read the Plat Books and obtain a complete history of all entities who paid the taxes on a piece of land in question over the years since it was platted. Research any piece of land which interests you and order copies of old documents which are archived. Check on all Probates of friends or relatives who died alone and separated from family members and examine the final distribution of property.
This type of activity makes lawyers, bankers, and securities traders nervous beyond endurance- the violation of their citadel of filings and public records no one ever examines. It is how they succeed in plunder.
When I go Public Records clogging I usually pack crackers I can sneak into my mouth, and bottled water so I don't have to stop for lunch. It's amazing how the hours fly while rolling through reel after reel of unfocused micro-fiche.
The important thing to remember about all Public Records research is that just because something is filed, doesn't mean it's legal.
#9
Leighmf, Excellent article! We, too, are very concerned with the state of the bridges in these United States of America. The Peoples of the Occupation in various ways across the country are "brave beyond measure." - Cygnus1
Quote by Leighmf:
"...The important thing to remember about all Public Records research is that just because something is filed, doesn't mean it's legal."
This will assist in adding names to the list of those who falsely take from the Peoples, that which is not theirs. But remember, Leighmf, that when the time comes for the old system to disintegrate, borders and boundaries become more and more insignificant if not irrelevant. - Cygnus1
#10
Finally we the people waking up and speaking out! After thirty years of the 1% undoing what FDR did to make America more equitable. Changes that took a depression to allow him to accomplish, has brought us to monetary systems similar to the 1929 economic system, and we all know what happened next. The Occupy Wall Street movement is pointing to the crux of why our country is in such a dire economic state, the 1%'s insatiable greed that ships our jobs overseas and leaves us crumbs to survive on.
www.whatnowtoons.comLeft of center independent political cartoons
#11
And rags like The Denver Post print editorials saying enough is enough?
http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_19360526
I don't recall giving up in 1970-77 when we protested Vietnam, or NUkes, or Reagan in Calif... just because a newspapers said so. Bastards....
#12
I wish that I could march with them. And, we can support the march with sending a message to Congress via MoveOn .org
Please pass this on.
Click here to tell Congress to reject any new cuts to Social Security.
#13
Palindromedary, can you tell us how many U.S. troops are left on American soil? Australia is the next location the foreign controlled U.S. President Obama is going to build another American base in. It will be in northern Austalia, and this is to be done against the wishes of the Australian people. Apparently there will be over 2,500 Marines to occupy this base. We know about Pinegap, the secret U.S. base in Australia. The people within the various golf type buildings wear color coded shirts. Each sector has a different color and is not allowed to interact, one with the other.
We believe he is doing this on behalf of the militarized industrial complex for two reasons:
The first, because he does not want those Marines home to join with the Protesters against the 1%, and of course, himself. The second, because as the Australian People continue in their Protests, the foreign controlled U.S. Marines could be called upon, if necessary, to assist the foreign controlled Australian government, in putting the Australian Peoples down. - Cygnus1
#14
If Mayor Bloomberg tries to squeeze Protesters out of the Park and out of other public places, then the Occupiers have no alternative but to take to the streets. This is what Palestinians are forced to do, and they become wall to wall Protesters across roads, with so many Peoples in the streets, that nobody can pass, but have no other option than to become one with them, which they willingly do.
Wall to wall people cannot be easily walked through, so in doing so this strategy can also be done peacefully.
The Palestinians are squeezed into this situation, albeit where they are forced to shut everything down by Israel, the OWS and other OWS across the nation, must reverse the strategy of the 1% and turn the tables on the 1% and SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN! - Cygnus1
#15
Cygnus1: As of 2011, the US has about 313,232,044 total population. Current Active reserve: 1,458,500. Current Active-duty military manpower: 1,477,896. About 4,217,412 men and women reach military age annually who could be drafted if needed. Current military costs to taxpayers are about $692,000,000,000.
http://www.globalfirepower.com
"The military of the United States is deployed in more than 150[1] countries around the world, with more than 369,000 of its 1,580,255[2] active-duty personnel serving outside the United States and its territories. Most of these overseas personnel are deployed in combat zones in the Middle east, as part of the "War on Terror". Many of the remainder are located at installations activated during the Cold War, by which the US government sought to counter the Soviet Union in the aftermath of World War II."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_deployments
So, according to wikipedia's numbers...it looks like there are about 1,311,255 active duty personnel still in the US. There are, of course, many others employed by paramilitary outfits like Blackwater (now Xe) in addition to the US military that should be considered. As we know from Hurricane Katrina, Blackwater paramilitary was used to "keep the peace" in New Orleans and elsewhere. They will also likely be used in the event of a civil disobedience should they decide it is necessary.
Yes, I've heard of Pine Gap in Australia...and what I read many years ago was concerning Project Echelon...which is a multi-country partnership in spying on everyone, including their own citizens. Since, in earlier years, before 911, they skirted the law against spying on their own citizens by having the partner countries do the spying and then reporting the information to each other. Here's something I found that might be of interest to you...
PINE GAP
"The United States has three major bases in Australia. One is in South Australia (Nurranger, near Woomera, T.N.), another in New South Wales, and the third (and by far the largest) is located within about 230 km (143 miles) of the geographical center of the continent, not far to the west of Alice Springs (Northern Territory), at the foothills of the southern slopes of the MacDonnell Range. This base is completely underground, with barely visible entrances to the surface.
"This 'Top Secret' base is entirely financed by the United States Government, and is officially known as the Joint Defense Space Research Facility.
"When the JDSRF was first initiated, its aim was scientific research for the supposed development of a space defense technology. It is now known that since its inception, its primary purpose was research into electromagnetic propulsion.
"What exactly is Pine Gap? As strange as it may seem, even Australian Federal Parliament members do not know. Among the Cabinet members, only a small number of 'initiates' have a vague idea of what this is all about.
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1925.htm
I've also heard of the possibility that there are a lot of foreign military in the US, as well, that could be used to quell any kind of uprising. Those foreign troops would not be so empathetic toward American citizens.
#16
Palindromedary, thank you so much for your investigation. This is very important as you can imagine and extremely useful information. We did not know there were foreign military in these United States of America, other than the foreign contolled United States machine, (military) but what you have stated makes so much sense. It is important for us to keep abreast of all goings on in the scenario of the foreign controlled U.S. Military both at home and abroad.
You wrote: "About 4,217,412 men and women reach military age ANNUALLY who could be drafted if needed,"
LET'S GET THESE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN DRAFTED INTO THE OWS, UTILIZING THE PROTESTERS AND THE FAMILIES OF SOLDIERS WHO ARE ALREADY IN COMBAT POSITIONS IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND OTHER PLACES, AS WELL AS UTILIZING THE FAMILIES OF THE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE OF AGE OR COMING OF AGE FOR THE DRAFT, OR WORSE, "VOLUNTEER STATUS."
THESE PROTESTERS AND THE FAMILIES OF THE SOLDIERS IN COMBAT, (OR WHO HAD BEEN IN COMBAT), INCLUDING THE FAMILIES OF UPCOMING DRAFTEES, OR INNOCENT VOLUNTEERS TO THE MILITARY MACHINE, NEED TO DRIVE HOME TO THE VULNERABLE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN, THEY WILL BE USED FOR PAWNS BY THE 1%, TO AN HORRIFIC END WITH NO FUTURE TO LOOK FORWARD TO IF THEY MAKE IT HOME.
PICTURES AND STORIES OF REAL LIFE COMBAT AND ITS CONSEQUENCES; VETERANS WOULD BE OF GREAT HELP HERE.
THE VETERANS ESPECIALLY WHOM HAVE COME HOME WITH BRAIN DAMAGE, LOSS OF LIMBS, SHOULD BE APPROACHED, YOU GET THE PICTURE.....VIDEOS OF THOSE VETERANS, TALKING, SHOWING THEIR WOUNDS, TELLING THE STORIES OF THE HORRORS OF WAR, SUCH AS THE IRAQI VETERAN HAD DONE WHEN INTERVIEWED ON RT, whom by the way is doing an excellent job on reporting the occupation around the country, and therefore should be praised for the job they are doing,
THE FOREIGN CONTROLLED GOVERNMENT IN THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ARE TRYING TO FORCE YOUNG PEOPLE INTO JOINING THE MILITARY JUST AS A MEANS OF SURVIVAL. USING THE MONEY TRICK, THEY TAKE JOBS AND EDUCATION AWAY, HOMES AWAY, AND SUNDRY OTHER ITEMS AWAY, MAKING IT DOUBLY IMPOSSIBLE TO GET A START IN LIFE.
THE MILITARY THEN PROMISES THESE YOUNG PEOPLE AN EDUCATION AFTER THEY SERVE THEIR TIME, BUT BY THE TIME THEIR TIME OF SERVICE IS UP, THEY ARE TRICKED AGAIN AND TOLD THEY ARE NEEDED ELSEWHERE TO FIGHT. MANY LOSE HEART OF EVER GETTING HOME, MANY OTHERS CANNOT LIVE WITH WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO OTHERS IN OTHER LANDS, AND COMMIT SUICIDE, AND IT IS THESE STORIES AND MANY MORE LIKE THEM WHICH NEED TO BE TOLD.
MANY OF THESE VETERANS COME HOME DAMAGED BEYOND REPAIR.
THE 1% DO NOT GRIEVE WHEN THESE SOLDIERS DIE. THE FOREIGN CONTROLLED U.S. GOVERNMENT DO NOT GRIEVE WHEN THESE SOLDIERS DIE. IT IS HIGHLY DOUBTFUL THAT BY WATCHING THE FOREIGN CONTOLLED PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WITH THE BIG GRIN ON HIS FACE AS HE STANDS INFRONT OF THE FOREIGN CONTROLLED U.S. SOLDIERS OVERSEAS, THAT HE GRIEVES EITHER.
SO WHAT DOES THE 1% INSTEAD DO? THEY SIMPLY REPLACE THE SOLDIERS WITH OTHER YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN.
WHAT DOES THE FOREIGN CONTROLLED GOVERNMENT INSTEAD DO? THEY SIMPLY REPLACE THE SOLDIERS WITH OTHER YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN.
AND WHAT DOES THE FOREIGN CONTROLLED U.S. PRESIDENT INSTEAD DO? HE SIMPLY REPLACES THE SOLDIERS WITH OTHER YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN.
VETERANS COULD HELP THE OWS BY HOLDING RALLYS AND ANSWERING QUESTIONS FOR THE YOUNG AND IMPRESSIONABLE.
ALL NEED TO WORK DOUBLY HARD IN ORDER TO GET THROUGH TO THE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN BEFORE THEY END UP SACRIFICING THEMSELVES AND OTHERS IN OTHER LANDS FOR THE AGENDA OF THE 1%. - Cygnus1
#17
"...mobile devices are a source for far more personal information than PCs ever were because the device itself knows much more about you. It's got your contact list. It's got - so much of your personal information is being stored on this device, more so than a PC, which traditionally has been more of a workstation where you did documents and web surfing and kept your - you weren't merging it with your phone. Well, now the phone has subsumed a lot of the functionality of the PC. So, and of course it also knows your location, which is additional information."
"...it was a little frightening, that data which the government cannot legally get without a warrant, it's able to purchase." "...it's legal to purchase it, even without a warrant.....because you gave it up....the government is a huge customer of all of the data that we're trying to keep control over...that's why the CIA investment arm put some money into Facebook. It's a good thing for government."
Check out something called "Disconnect". It disables third-party traffic...good for Facebook, Chrome, Firefox, and Safari...and it's free. Third party tracking is different than third party cookies which you can turn off anyway in Firefox and maybe other browsers. Tracking is more pervasive than just cookies. So it disables third-party tracking, truly depersonalizes searches, shows blocked resources and cookies, let you easily unblock services, and it's free. Sometimes it may be a little too aggressive, in which case you can tell it to back off if there are things that don't work, a little bit like NoScript, that can be too aggressive." It will sanitize the browser transactions in order to pull out any personally identifiable information and things that look questionable."
http://www.grc.com/sn/sn-327.pdf
then do a search or find on "disconnect"
"Facebook forced to admit tracking
November 18, 2011
Do you want Facebook to record, analyze, and monetize your browsing history? The company finally acknowledged that’s exactly what they’re up to.
In the wake of recent lawsuits and investigations by the FTC and Congress, Facebook disclosed what data they gather about the sites you go to. Facebook’s engineering director publicly admitted tracking a significant amount of your browsing history, whether you’re logged into Facebook or not.
When you’re logged in, Facebook saves timestamped lists of the page URLs you visit that have Facebook widgets — e.g., a Like or Share button. They pair this browsing activity with your real name, list of friends, Facebook preferences, email addresses, IP addresses, and other info about your computer and browser.
When you’re logged out, Facebook uses a unique identifier to track your browsing activity, IP address, and other computer and browser info. They admitted being able to connect the pages you visit when logged off to your real name simply by matching against your computer and browser characteristics.
When did you agree to all this tracking?
You didn’t!
Install Disconnect and stop Facebook from tracking you without permission."
#18
Check out this video from DefCon19--talk given by the developer of "Disconnect".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK_E3Bjpe0E
#19
Leighmf, you may well be interested in this article for it speaks also of "land grabs."
QUOTE:
Sheriffs Rise Up Against Feds
November 11, 2011 admin
By Pat Shannan -
As more people became dissatisfied with federal government controls and land grabs, it was inevitable that local law enforcement would eventually see the bigger picture. At the northern California fairgrounds of Yreka last month, seven California sheriffs and another from Oregon gathered with a large group of citizens to say that they are finally going to do something about it.
“A giant has been awakened,” said Plumas County, Calif. Sheriff Greg Hagwood, “and they didn’t count on that,” speaking of the federal bureaucracy.
With exposure of the Emergency Management Center in San Luis Obispo a few decades ago, California began to offer the rest of the nation some evidence of the psychological conditioning aimed from the federal level at state, county and city law enforcement.
Dean Wilson, sheriff of Del Norte County (Sacramento), is a great example of this great awakening. He received the loudest and longest applause for his candor in confessing past faults after apologizing for not understanding the central government assault and land grab being committed against the people and what he should have been doing about it. Only in the past year has he done a turnaround and begun to behave as a county sheriff instead of an extension of federal law enforcement.
“I had spent a good part of my life enforcing the penal code, but not understanding my oath of office,” he told the audience. “I was ignorant and naïve, but now I know of the assault against our people by the federal government.”
Host sheriff John Lopey of Siskiyou County, speaking about the federal environmental intervention, said: “I have told federal and state officials over and over that, yes, we want to preserve the environment, but you care more about the fish, frogs, trees and birds than you do about the human race. When will you start to balance your decisions to the needs of the people?” Later he told the audience, “We are right now in a fight for our survival.”
Glenn Palmer, sheriff of Grant County, Oregon, said, “If an elected official has not taken an oath of office, he does not belong in office.”
AFP readers are familiar with the work of former Arizona Sheriff Richard Mack, who has spent the latter half of his life teaching sheriffs that they are the top law enforcement officers in their counties despite continuing federal intervention attempts. The ears that were deaf for so long may finally be starting to hear.
“It’s becoming a national movement now,” Mack told AFP, citing Immigration and Naturalization Service failure at the Mexican borders, the phony drug war, plus IRS and other unconstitutional intervention within these states.
His plans to take this movement national will be launched at a January meeting, where he anticipates 200 sheriffs will be in attendance.
“The county sheriff is the last line of defense guarding our people’s liberty,” he said.
Retired USAF Col. Richard Niemela of Reston, Va. has been exposing the federal monster for years.
He told AFP: “It’s the surreptitious domination by international globalists insidiously using unauthorized and illegal tactics to render null and void those historic and unique powers of the sheriff.” end quote
source americafreepress.net
#20
This occupy thing is a dream come true !!!!!!!
#21
HERE IS ANOTHER HORROR STORY FOR THE FAMILIES AND FRIENDS OF MILITARY SOLDIERS CONTROLLED BY THE FOREIGN CONTROLLED U.S. GOVERNMENT: STOP MORE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN OF THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FROM BECOMING THE NEXT VICTIMS OF THE 1% AND THEIR DEMONIC AGENDA! - Cygnus!
"Remains of US troops treated like trash
"According to three US mortuary workers, the remains of dozens of US soldiers who have died in Iraq or Afghanistan have been lost, burned, and even thrown away like garbage in the Dover Air Force Base's landfill in Delaware. The three added that such orders were authorized by their superiors, who asked them to remain silent on the matter. Two of the three workers were later fired." end quote source: whatreallyhappened.com
HENRY KISSINGER SPOKE THESE WORDS!: "MILITARY MEN ARE JUST DUMB, STUPID, ANIMALS TO BE USED AS PAWNS IN FOREIGN POLICY."
THIS REMINDS ME OF THE TIME WHEN THE GREEK GOVERNMENT FOUND THROUGH EXCAVATION THAT OVER 5000 U.S. AND BRITISH SOLDIERS WERE FOUND BURIED OR RATHER "DUMPED" IN A GRAVE ON GREEK SOIL. IT WAS NOT LONG AFTER THAT THE GREEK GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLES OF GREECE BEGAN EXPERIENCING "MONEY TROUBLE" WITH THE WORLD BANK AND ITS EVIL COHORTS! - Cygnus1
#22
THE 1% CONTROL ALL MILITARIES AND MILITARIZED ALL POLICE IN EVERY NATION WHERE THE LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN COMPROMISED - Cygnus1
Occupy Maced: Police pepper spray unarmed youth, tear tents down
"Police in the U.S. have used pepper spray against students taking part in an 'Occupy' campaign at the University of California. Demonstrators had been ordered to remove their camp, but after refusing, officers showed up and tore their tents down."
NEXT:
Revising Uprising: New Egypt military govt hardly better than MubarakRiot police are dismantling tents and arresting activists who stayed overnight on Cairo's Tahrir Square.This follows an earlier mass protest against military rulers who have been in control since President Mubarak was toppled in February. They were demanding the withdrawal of a proposal that declares the military the guardian of 'constitutional legitimacy'. The protest was arranged by the islamist Muslim Brotherhood, and supported by some secular activists. U.S.-based radio host Stephen Lendman believes military rule could prove to be a greater evil for Egypt, than Mubarak."
Egyptians! President Mubarak and the Military are the same peoples. Both were and are controlled by the 1%. President Mubarak was stuck between a rock and a hard place in trying to keep Egypt from following in the footsteps of Gaza. This does not make what he did right, but it does make for the understanding of why President Mubarak engaged in the blockading of Palestine. And still the blockade is not completely off.
Now you have President Mubarak's Military, whom are controlled by the ones who wish the entire Arab world and its sympathetic neighbours to be keep well under control. It is good in continuing to see the Revolutionaries throughout the Middle East, (those who are legitimate Revolutionists) and Revolutionists throughout the world standing with those Occupyiers and Revolutionists throughout the United States, for those people DO NOT WANT WAR WITH ANYBODY BUT THEIR VOICES ARE SILENCED BY THEIR OWN MEDIA AND THE MEDIA CIRCUS WHICH IS RUN BY THE 1% AND THEIR WORKER EYES.
YOU, THE PEOPLES OF EGYPT ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FOREIGN CONTOLLED EGYPTIAN MILITARY AND POLICE BLOCKADING THE PALESTINIANS, ANY MORE THAN THE AMERICAN PEOPLES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THEIR FOREIGN CONTROLLED GOVERNMENT AND FOREIGN CONTOLLED MILITARY DO TO ARAB NATIONS IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
THE PEOPLES OF THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ARE FIGHTING THEIR FOREIGN CONTROLLED GOVERNMENT TO STOP ALL WARS AND BRING THE SOLDIERS HOME, BUT THE FOREIGN CONTROLLED U.S. GOVERNMENT WILL NOT, OF COURSE, LISTEN.
Do not allow Egypt to fall into the hands of those who would bring about a religiously controlled nation, because if you do, you will never see Paradise in Egypt. Remember, you are fighting for more than your own control over Egypt's sovereignty, for not one of you know how to set up Paradise for all Egyptians in every known and unknown part of Egypt. Go now and remember that which you fight for is TRUE FREEDOM AND AN ENJOYABLE EXPERIENCE THOUGHOUT YOUR JOURNEY THROUGH LIFE! SETTLE FOR NOTHING SHORT OF THIS, FOR YOU, LIKENED UNTO ALL PEOPLES, DESERVE THE BEST! CONTINUE IN BUILDING IT TOGETHER. - Cygnus1
Source of both links: www.whatreallyhappened.com
#23
THEY CANNOT DEFEND THEIR ACTIONS WITH WORDS SO THEY RESORT TO THESE WICKED DEEDS! - Cygnus1
Quote:
Who Smashed the Laptops from Occupy Wall Street? Inside the NYPD's Lost and FoundBy: RON PAUL 2012
(note: this author and date was not put in by ourselves. We promote no politician, for no politician can do anything for the peoples under this present day system and without knowing how to rebuild Paradise. - Cygnus1)
"If you’re looking to recover any personal effects swept up early Tuesday morning in the NYPD raid on Zuccotti Park, epicenter of the Occupy Wall Street movement, there’s only one place that may have what you’re looking for. Only it doesn’t have a marked address." end quote
AND FINALLY:
Merkel Rejects ECB as Crisis Backstop in Clash With France
"German Chancellor Angela Merkel rejected French calls to deploy the European Central Bank as a crisis backstop, defying global leaders and investors calling for more urgent action to halt the turmoil.
As the crisis sent borrowing costs in core economies outside Germany to euro-era records, Merkel listed using the ECB as lender of last resort alongside joint euro-area bonds and a “snappy debt cut” as proposals that won’t work."
You must understand that without the use of money, cheques, cards, or any other means of currency, all the probems would just vanish, fall by the wayside, and this is exactly what the 1% and their worker eyes do not want to see ever happen because they lose the power base over the people and their own elevated position over serfs. - Cygnus1
#24
A VETERAN SPEAKS OUT "shining the light on the lie." - Cygnus1
Occupy Gainesville: Bob Tuskin Sits Down with Phil Restino of Veterans for Peace: 9/11, And The Fed
"I've got my mind made up, don't confuse me with the facts!" - Veteran speaking about many many Americans
Scource www.whatreallyhappened.com
There is always a way of dealing with every problem, only ignorance gets in the way. - Cygnus1
#25
Wall Street Businesses are bracing to launch an all attack on the OWS movement, which they started already but they do not want people to know it is them. So, the letter is dated the 24th of November, 2011. The letter is directed to the American Bankers Association from Sam Geduldig, Steve Clark and other two associates. They are located in Pennsylvania Ave. in DC.
They are expressing the fear of both parties endorsing the OWS just to get votes and they just want the movement stop and they are just conniving to do harm and blame others. They will be choosing people who are not involved but are sympathizers of those in the OWS. They just want to use propaganda and misinformation against them. There cost as they figured will be $850,000. Almost a million dollars in bribes just to get rid of the movement. Instead of encouraging the changing of policies that are persecuting the people financially.
#26
No more comments. I wanted to delete this one and it did not let me delete it from the blog.
#27
In the US something similar is happening. Police is abusing their authority. Police brutality has been experience even by innocent bystanders. It is time someone tell them that pepper spray is supposed to be used on those who are resisting arrest by kicking, spitting or otherwise using violence against police. When use on instances where that is not happening, it is called assault and infringes on the civil rights of protestors.
#28
Occupy Oakland Calls for TOTAL WEST COAST PORT SHUTDOWN ON 12/12
"Proposal for a Coordinated West Coast Port Shutdown, Passed With Unanimous Consensus by vote of the Occupy Oakland General Assembly 11/18/2012:"
Excellent. Now the east coast. - Cygnus1
#29
LET US RID THE WORLD OF ANOTHER LIE AGAINST IRAN. HOWEVER, THE FOREIGN CONTROLLED WHITE HOUSE AND PENTAGON HAVE UP THEIR SLEEVES THE SECOND SAME OLD LIE THEY USED TO BOMB IRAQ AND THAT, OF COURSE, AS WE ALL KNOW, IS THE NUCLEAR FABRICATION. Now let us look at a portion of the letter below the caption. You may read the entire letter within the link. - Cygnus1
Another fabrication for war
"With Israel and the Zionist-dominated U.S. and NATO gearing up to destroy Iran with nuclear weapons (all under the umbrella of the demonic oil cabal and those master puppeteers, the pinnacle of evil incarnate, the world money powers), it should be made known to the world of yet another fabrication as an excuse for war.
“Across the world, a dangerous rumor has spread that could have catastrophic implications. According to legend, Iran’s President has threatened to destroy Israel, or, to quote the misquote, ‘Israel must be wiped off the map.’ Contrary to popular belief, this statement was never made, as this article (by Arash Norouzi) will prove.” (According to globalresearch.ca.)
The words “map,” “wipe out” or “Israel” were never spoken.""
"...“He concludes by referring to [the late Ayatollah] Khomeini’s unfulfilled wish: ‘The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time. This statement is very wise.’ This is the passage that has been isolated, twisted and distorted so famously. By measure of comparison, Ahmadinejad would seem to be calling for regime change, not war.”
#30
The photo under the headline shows an American flag with the words: "This location occupied by Americans" written across it. Unfortunately you, the Peoples of these United States of America are not able to view it on this post, but are able to view it on www.whatreallyhappened.com. This is no longer a "little" movement and it is becoming stronger by the moment! Continue to ENCOURAGE one another! Good for you, you BRAVE PEOPLE. - Cygnus1
THE OCCUPATION ‘VIRUS’ IS SPREADING ~~ PHOTOS AND VIDEO
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Folks, copy off the large version of the above image, print it out, and tape it into your windows. The media is trying to portray the Occupy movement as a "bunch of dirty hippies" camped out in the parks. You can send the message that the Occupy movement is everywhere, including your home, with this simple sign., If you have an American flag, fly it, because that flag belongs to us; not to the Federal Reserve and not to Washington DC, and flying the flag sends another message that Occupy is not trying to take over the country.
We ARE the country, and we are taking it back!" end quote
#31
All very good, and informative, posts...Cygnus1! In reference to your penultimate post, #30.....I'd also venture to say that there are even a lot of Israelis who know that the right-wing elements of their government have gone way too far on so many things...they don't support what their own government has done, or may be planning to do. Even THEY know that their own government has been very much like those that they took refuge from. Many people, in the US, in Israel, and all around the world have, perhaps, been beguiled by their ruling elite and may have bought into going along with the atrocities and manipulations of the ruling elite....but the world is finally waking up to the evil incarnate of these hateful and greedy controlling few. Viva la world-wide revolution!!!
#32
Fly the American flag right next to an Anonymous flag (one with the symbolic caricature face of Guy Fawkes). We are Legion, We do not forgive, we do not forget! And maybe add a flag with a picture of a guillotine...that should tweak a few twerpish ruling elite jaws.
#33
Look at all those Democrat politicians...bought off by the Israeli Lobby. Both parties are not without sin, here...but it sure looks like the Democrats far outnumber the Republicans when it comes to taking bribes from the Israelis.
http://www.wrmea.com/component/content/article/351-2010-may-june/9045-pr...
#34
If nobody paid their taxes...what could they do? The rich don't pay their fair share of the taxes ...so why should hard working Americans and those who are barely making it pay their share of the taxes? Could it be that the IRS, and the ruling elite, will be totally shocked when people take their revolution to the next level of rebellion and refuse to pay their taxes....refuse to be evicted...refuse..refuse...refuse!
#35
Palindromedary, you wrote:
"If nobody paid their taxes...what could they do? The rich don't pay their fair share of the taxes ...so why should hard working Americans and those who are barely making it pay their share of the taxes? Could it be that the IRS, and the ruling elite, will be totally shocked when people take their revolution to the next level of rebellion and refuse to pay their taxes....refuse to be evicted...refuse..refuse...refuse!"
If enough peoples came together to impliment this strategy of not paying taxes, then of course, this would work, but it would take a nationwide movement. Many people think that roads and bridges will not get fixed if they do not pay the usury, but this is a fallacy. Just look around you and you will see disintegrating roads, crumbling bridges, and the rest of the proof of these governmental lies, in spite of all the taxes paid by the Peoples of these United States of America.
Taxes go into the pockets of the ruling elite, and of course, in the pocket of Israel. Other taxes go to peoples of other nations in the form of bribes.
People understand the evictions happen when mortgages are not being paid with regularity. What they do not understand is the fact that the banks seize these properties on the basis of a fraudulant money trick, and that is why many peoples do not fight back.
If people refuse to become evicted, they need the power of the people in front of them, that is true, but in this, they, the peoples of these United States of America, need their Military back for they are the ones who best can ward the police off. Perhaps the "honorable Patriotic" veterans could participate in this plan, also in full uniform and decorations. - Cygnus1
#36
Pandromedary, you have brought this issue of the Israelis up frequently, so I think it is time to address it.
The Israeli people should all move into Canada. There is plenty of "Crown Land" for them to inhabit. Most peoples would give their right arm to be allowed back onto Crown land. I am sure this land would be given to them by the Canadian government, who say, they, themselves, support Israel, though present day Canadians are not, themselves, allowed on the land any longer for habitation. This would definitely solve the problem of "not enough land for both the Israelis and Palestinians." In this case, the Israeli warmongers who call themselves a government, would have no more cause to slaughter, invade, and occupy their neighbours.
I have watched the Israelis in their protests and what they call for. They call upon their warmongering government to "cut down on war spending and give, to them, the Israeli peoples, themselves, the money for social programs." (paraphrased)
So in effect, it is not because of what the Knesset is doing to the Palestinians which "horrifies" the Israeli peoples, but rather, the lack of monies, going to the peoples, themselves, instead of the Israeli war effort, is the main reason for their protests, which sounds to me being rather selfish.
Every time the Israeli peoples call for cheaper housing, and new housing, the Knesset gets it for them through the bulldozing down of the houses of the Palestinians, including ancient houses which have been in the Arab families for years. The murdering of the Palestinians escalates; the olive orchards belonging to the Palestinians are destroyed; and Palestinian are left out to weather the elements, without roof over their heads nor heat nor food. Even if the Palestinians were to occupy other lands, they are not given permits to build. All is taken from them without compensation to give to the Protesting Israelis.
So, when the Israeli people protest to their warmongering government to give them more, more, and more houses, and lands, and monies, (Israel collects more monies from nations around the world than any other peoples), which they, the Israelis, know do come from the Palestinians assets, and know which methods their government utilizes in acquiring these lands and houses for they, the Israeli people, I wonder why the Israeli peoples are protesting at all. It is the Palestinians who should be heard and not the Israeli people in their selfish demands.
With the Knesset funding Israel with lands, monies, and homes belonging to others, we all know that they despise their neighbours, each and every one, and have no intention in making peace with anyone. Just look at the maps of the region. There is no Palestine. - Cygnus1
#37
Sounds like what the American people want, too...stop the war-mongers from wasting so much money on wars and put that money to use in social programs..the ones that WE paid for...the ones that the GOVERNMENT OWES US and had better not renege on THEIR CONTRACT WITH THE PEOPLE all these years.
I have read about some Israelis who are not happy about what their government has done to the Palestinians...at least to the extent to which their government has gone in committing violence and a land grab...destroying centuries old Palestinian ownership of these orchards and only means of a lively-hood for them and their families. Yes, there are some rabid rabbis and their right-wing followers who are just loving any form of violence and theft from the Palestinians that they can get away with. That doesn't speak for the whole of the people, though. Just like in the US, there are moderates, and liberals who are not happy with the right wingers.
On the website...BraveNewWorld, I noticed the disclaimer that pretty much said that you can enter your ideas on who is part of the criminal 1% but they would censor what you say and who you nominate (not exactly in those terms but pretty close). I entered my suggestion of Peter Ackerman and it never did appear on the list. If you know anything about Peter Ackerman, "Michael Milkin's right hand man* ", founder of Americans Elect, Internation Center for NonViolent Conflict (ie: they advocate overthrowing governments from within through subversion rather than with the military...something the CIA has done for years), and belongs to right-wing think tanks that advocate overthrowing our social security and other social programs)...you might wonder why he would not be put on that list. Makes me wonder about that organization BraveNewWorld...are they protecting him...for some reason?
* "While Milken went to prison for insider trading, Ackerman walked away with hundreds of millions of dollars after the firm went bankrupt."
http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2007/10/03/peter-ackerman-billionaire-...
#38
Peoples of these United States of America! Here is an EXCELLENT IDEA in accumulating names, addresses, and recording the criminal intents and acccomplishment of criminals within our nation. Remember to place all information in alphabetical order for quick access when the time comes. You will be giving this information to your "security sources" who work with, and for, the Peoples of these United States of America, in due course of time. - Cygnus1
quote:
Who's Wrecking America? Vote on the 1% Nominees (VIDEO)By: poorrichard
The Occupy movement has drawn attention to how too many in the 1% get to play by their own rules while exploiting the 99%. But who's doing the most to damage our economy and democracy?
You tell us.
We at Brave New Foundation have launched a website where you can vote on some of the most infamous members of the 1% -- financial fraudsters, union-busters, weapons contractors, and more. Then we'll make a series of videos exposing the ones that you rank as the very worst. As our friends at Fox News might put it: We film. You decide." end quote
Let us look at two examples of how this is done. - Cygnus1
quote:
"Let's look at some examples. Lloyd Blankfein, the head of Goldman Sachs, is one of our nominees. He touted mortgage assets to clients while privately betting $10 billion they'd fail. Then he lied to Congress by claiming that Goldman Sachs had not, in fact, bet against its own clients. These actions helped spur the excessive risk-taking that led to the financial meltdown and put millions out of a job.
Or take a look at Paul Singer, who has earned the nickname "the vulture capitalist." He exploits poor nations by buying their defaulted debt for cheap and forcing them to pay in full--plus interest. The Congo was one of Singer's victims. That country had just gotten out of a civil war and half of its citizens live on less than a dollar a day. To Singer, that was a business opportunity. He bought the Congo's debt for pennies on the dollar and then sued to win far, far more than he had paid for it." end quote
Brave New Foundation, there is no need to ask the Peoples of these United States of America "to vote" for the worst criminals among you, because the principle of voting is to gauge the mood of the people, and here, you are collecting names, addressess, and criminal participation of those sitting strategically over you, the peoples, no matter their position or power. Crime is crime no matter the level. The punishment, so to speak is what will alter somewhat. So do not place restrictions upon your goal, and collect all names for the future. Do not leave out any names which have been suggested to you, nor the description of the crimes of said people.
In these United States of America the name which should be at the top, as it were, should be Henry Kissinger. He is far above Rupert Murdock as a threat to the human race. He is the mastermind of almost all atrocities committed in modern times. The men whom you have shown on your site are "WORKER EYES" who carry out the agenda of the 1% and are paid, and/or pay themselves a healthy income. We will come back to this post later. - Cygnus1
#39
Cygnus1,
You are into list-making. Who are the top 1%? How many are Included? What is their average age? Are these top 1% calculated by household or by individual? How many are Wall Street financiers? How many are entertainers? How many are elected officials? How many are there because of inherited wealth? How many are there because paid for their own education and have worked hard? How many are true philanthropists? We have to remember there are seedy elements of the tea party, OWS, Republicans, Democrats, police, religious leaders, the rich, but we can't judge them all by the actions of a few. If we truly see one group as good and the other as evil, then we are a nation of non-thinking sheep. My spouse retired after 30 years serving our country. He supports Ron Paul. So do I. I will take my chances with Iran. I want someone who understands economics, who has NO big money donors, and has a consistent message. I wonder if he was involved in insider trading like Boehner, Pelosi, and Kerry.
#40
US population was about 307,006,550 in 2009. The top 1% would be just over 3 million people.
On Wealth:
In the United States, wealth is highly concentrated in a relatively few hands. As of 2007, the top 1% of households (the upper class) owned 34.6% of all privately held wealth, and the next 19% (the managerial, professional, and small business stratum) had 50.5%, which means that just 20% of the people owned a remarkable 85%, leaving only 15% of the wealth for the bottom 80% (wage and salary workers)
On Inheritance:
According to a study published by the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland, only 1.6% of Americans receive $100,000 or more in inheritance. Another 1.1% receive $50,000 to $100,000. On the other hand, 91.9% receive nothing (Kotlikoff & Gokhale, 2000). Thus, the attempt by ultra-conservatives to eliminate inheritance taxes -- which they always call "death taxes" for P.R. reasons -- would take a huge bite out of government revenues (an estimated $253 billion between 2012 and 2022) for the benefit of the heirs of the mere 0.6% of Americans whose death would lead to the payment of any estate taxes whatsoever (Citizens for Tax Justice, 2010b).
It is noteworthy that some of the richest people in the country oppose this ultra-conservative initiative, suggesting that this effort is driven by anti-government ideology. In other words, few of the ultra-conservative and libertarian activists behind the effort will benefit from it in any material way. However, a study (Kenny et al., 2006) of the financial support for eliminating inheritance taxes discovered that 18 super-rich families (mostly Republican financial donors, but a few who support Democrats) provide the anti-government activists with most of the money for this effort. (For more infomation, including the names of the major donors, download the article from United For a Fair Economy's Web site.)
Actually, ultra-conservatives and their wealthy financial backers may not have to bother to eliminate what remains of inheritance taxes at the federal level. The rich already have a new way to avoid inheritance taxes forever -- for generations and generations -- thanks to bankers. After Congress passed a reform in 1986 making it impossible for a "trust" to skip a generation before paying inheritance taxes, bankers convinced legislatures in many states to eliminate their "rules against perpetuities," which means that trust funds set up in those states can exist in perpetuity, thereby allowing the trust funds to own new businesses, houses, and much else for descendants of rich people, and even to allow the beneficiaries to avoid payments to creditors when in personal debt or sued for causing accidents and injuries. About $100 billion in trust funds has flowed into those states so far. You can read the details on these "dynasty trusts" (which could be the basis for an even more solidified "American aristocracy") in a New York Times opinion piece published in July 2010 by Boston College law professor Ray Madoff, who also has a book on this and other new tricks: Immortality and the Law: The Rising Power of the American Dead (Yale University Press, 2010).
On Taxes:
"...taxes are progressive for the bottom 80%. But if we break the top 20% down into smaller chunks, we find that progressivity starts to slow down, then it stops, and then it slips backwards for the top 1%."
On CEOs:
"The ratio of CEO pay to factory worker pay rose from 42:1 in 1960 to as high as 531:1 in 2000, at the height of the stock market bubble, when CEOs were cashing in big stock options. It was at 411:1 in 2005 and 344:1 in 2007, according to research by United for a Fair Economy. By way of comparison, the same ratio is about 25:1 in Europe."
"As to the claim that CEOs deserve ever higher salaries because they "create wealth," he describes that rationale as a "joke," says the New York Times (Morgenson, 2005).
Here's how it works, according to Woolard:
The compensation committee [of the board of directors] talks to an outside consultant who has surveys you could drive a truck through and pay anything you want to pay, to be perfectly honest. The outside consultant talks to the human resources vice president, who talks to the CEO. The CEO says what he'd like to receive. It gets to the human resources person who tells the outside consultant. And it pretty well works out that the CEO gets what he's implied he thinks he deserves, so he will be respected by his peers. (Morgenson, 2005.)
The board of directors buys into what the CEO asks for because the outside consultant is an "expert" on such matters. Furthermore, handing out only modest salary increases might give the wrong impression about how highly the board values the CEO. And if someone on the board should object, there are the three or four CEOs from other companies who will make sure it happens. It is a process with a built-in escalator.
As for why the consultants go along with this scam, they know which side their bread is buttered on. They realize the CEO has a big say-so on whether or not they are hired again. So they suggest a package of salaries, stock options and other goodies that they think will please the CEO, and they, too, get rich in the process. And certainly the top executives just below the CEO don't mind hearing about the boss's raise. They know it will mean pay increases for them, too. (For an excellent detailed article on the main consulting firm that helps CEOs and other corporate executives raise their pay, check out the New York Times article entitled "America's Corporate Pay Pal", which supports everything Woolard of DuPont claims and adds new information.)"
http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html
Ratings agencies had this scam with the Wall Street Crooks too...saying junk deserved a triple A rating and suckering retirement funds into buying them.
#41
Palindromedary, Excellent post! Really helpful. But I wanted to look at this statement:
"US population was about 307,006,550 in 2009. The top 1% would be just over 3 million people."
The 1% are a handful of people who own it all and have an agenda for the world. The rest of the extremely wealthy of the World, including these United States of America, are side-arms (those who know the agenda of the 1%), and the senior worker eyes (those who carry out the agenda of the 1% with heavy monetary payment toward their offshore accounts.) Keep in mind, that not all who are wealthy are worker eyes, so one must be careful when collecting names. - Cygnus1
#42
SaltoftheEarth, I am not as you say, "into" listmaking. That is for others to do. We all have our places, our duties to complete the whole. I am "into" the making of Paradise for the People, guiding them through the process of taking down the present-day system and how to replace it in detail with the next.
The 1% consist of families plus sub-groups, and I can tell you, without going into every name that these 1% do have their side-arms such as Henry Kissinger, sitting over each nation, whose leader has been compromised, and working in the background in order to create as much chaotic mess as possible, in following the 1%'s people-hating agenda.
I will give to you a few names to get you started, and then perhaps, as you are so interested in acquiring their ages, amongst your other questions, you could accumulate all the data and send it in to Brave New Foundation.
Names: Bilderburgers, Rothchilds, Rockerfellers, just to name a few. Sub-committies: Club of Rome; Gold Club; Trilaterals; Skull & Bones; Council on Foreign Relations and sundry other secret organizations (not all are secret.) to give you a start. You should have all the data on the Bush family, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Condolesa Rice, etc., so I will not even bother putting them in. That is for you, yourself, to work on.
Worker eyes and side-arms who know the agenda of the 1%: Peter Sutherland (re:Goldman Sacs), Gordon Smith (former Canadian Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs), Henry Kissinger, Jusuf Wanandi (center for strategic and international studies in Jakarta, Indonesia), Mike Moore (not Michael Moore) (Director of WTO); Fritz Bolkestein (of the European Commission); Toru Kusukawa (former delegate to the Asia-Pacific Commission); Brent Scowcroft (former assistant to Ronald Reagan for national security affairs); Richard Holbrooke (U.S. Ambassator to the United Nations; Wolfowitz (former head of the World Bank); Joseph Nye Jr. (Dean of the Kennedy School of government at Harvard University), only to name a few......to make this list complete many heads all over the nation will need to come together.
Here is an example of the cold-blooded thinking of a side-arm:
""[The Laos operation] is something of which we can be proud as Americans. It has involved virtually no American casualties. What we are getting for our money there ... is, I think, to use the old phrase, very cost effective." -- U. Alexis Johnson, US Under Secretary of State in 1971 about American carpet--bombing of Laos which killed hundreds--of--thousands of civilians" quote from www.whateverhappened.com - Cygnus1
#43
The top 400 wealthiest people only amount to about .00013 percent of all Americans. Michael Moore said that the top 400 Americans have more wealth than half of all Americans combined. And the Politifact Truth-O-Meter says he's right..He made an accurate statement.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2011/mar/10/michael-moore...
I had read elsewhere that it is difficult to determine what is meant by the top 1% and just who would be classified as the top 1%. Are we talking about top income earners...about total wealth? Many top baseball players could be classified as top income earners...but their unwise investments and subsequent losses...would take away that "honor".
"A huge share of the nation's economic growth over the past 30 years has gone to the top one-hundredth of one percent, who now make an average of $27 million per household. The average income for the bottom 90 percent of us? $31,244."
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/income-inequality-in-america-cha...
One-hundreth of one percent (.01% or 30,700 people in the US) make an average of $27 million per household). That is $829 billion. The top .1% about $3.3 million. To make the top 1% it is on the order of about $1.13 million income. But, again, it is tricky..many very wealthy people have inherited a lot of their wealth....and many well to do have a lot of wealth on paper and invested in stocks or other things that might go belly up over night...even our banks may not be the safest way to keep our wealth even if they are FDIC insured and the 1 percenters would have a hard time finding enough banks to spread around their money in order to be FDIC insured up to ..what is it $200k per person per bank..and that increased limit is soon to run out anyway? Most wealthy people have to find something other than savings accounts...Tbills...whatever...property...offshore accounts. Awww, poor rich people!
#44
Distribution of Wealth (not income):
Wealthiest 20% owns 84.6%
Upper Class owns 11.1%
Middle America owns 4.0%
Working Poor owns 0.2%
Poorest 20% owns 0.1%
#45
Palindromedary, great information! You wrote:
"I had read elsewhere that it is difficult to determine what is meant by the top 1% and just who would be classified as the top 1%. Are we talking about top income earners...about total wealth? Many top baseball players could be classified as top income earners...but their unwise investments and subsequent losses...would take away that "honor".end quote
it is important to remember those who control the wealth as being those who control the World Bank and IMF; Federal Reserve; London School of Economics (whom send out brainwashed economic students to the rest of the world); Council on Foreign Relations; Freemasons; City of London Corporation; Washington D.C.; as well as the Vatican. These people also run the various secret societies, for the purpose of manipulating and controlling all national and international leaders.
We are talking about the ones who are fleecing the peoples through the banking system. They are the ones with the agenda. For instance Bill Gates has earned his money through running a successful business, whilst others have stolen the money by controlling the banking system and immersing the tax paying population in debt to pay for their thievery. Leave the wealthy baseball players out of it. I love baseball! - Cygnus1.
#46
And even though Bill Gates is known as the richest...or at least one of the richest...he is not on anyone's list (except some Linux users ;-)), that I know of, for being one of the really evil ones. Of course, some people believe that rigging their product (the Operating System) so that their customers have no other choice but to continue to buy higher priced applications software..a form of monopolizing...is stealing from the people...which is part of the reason why Linux, and others, are preferred by many people..also the fact that it has other more outstanding characteristics than Microsoft...one of which is that it is free. Some would say this is just good business practices...to corner the market...but isn't that what the banks are doing?
I have also not seen Carlos Slim on those lists. He is right up there in wealth as well. I suspect that the really, really wealthy "evil" ones are not very visible. Yes, there are the Rothchilds, the Bilderbergers, etc...but there may be even more "unknowns" that manage to stay hidden from scutiny.
Like, whatever happened to all of that wealth that was stolen from the Chinese and Southeast Asia before and during WWII...in Operation Golden Lilly. Some is still buried in the Philippines but a lot of it was dug up by not only the US but by Marcos. The US used SOME of it to fund various covert operations, especially during the Cold War, and SOME of it put into the M-Fund (M stood for MacArthur) that Nixon handed over back to the Japanese as a bribe to help him get elected. No one thought to return it to their rightful owners...the Chinese.
Then there was a lot of gold and other items of wealth that the US, and others, got from the European Jews and others that the Nazis stole from. Of course, in the end, it is whoever has the control over the strongest and most forceful and ruthless and most technologically advanced military in the world that controls us all.
As it was the most superior and technologically advanced and ruthless over Manchuria, China, and Southeast Asia, Japan was able to amass thousands of years of accumulated wealth through force. There are those in the US who believe we should do the same to the rest of the world...maybe, in part, before they can do it to us. We may have no Valhalla or stories of heroic and racially superior grandeur and exclusivity as did the Germans but we have an equally fallacious myth of similar proportions that have many in chains (metaphorically, of course)..both psychologically and/or physically.
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Palindromedary, although Bill Gates is a billionaire now, he certainly never belonged to the class of the 1% (he follows no hidden agenda) at anytime. Therefore, not even now do we consider him part of that class of people. And when finally the wicked Government in Washington approached him to design certain weaknesses into the Windows operating system so that Government-paid hackers would have an easier time to penetrate it for stealing personal data from the people, he was forced into a choice of either comply or go under with his business empire.
They cornered him like a rat, and we may say he made the wrong choice, which by all standards of ethics is probably so, however, we will not hold this business decision against him to the point where one should group him to be one with all those of the 1% who freely blackmail governments into stealing funds from the taxpayers to waft those billions without concern or conscience into their own offshore bank accounts through a corrupted, monopolized banking system.
Therefore, the fault lies not with successful business enterprises, but with a financial system which easily lets these businesses fall under control and ownership of all who control the system of finance, including the community of opportunistic, thieving "investors" who purchase the industry with all their stolen, unearned money. -Cygnus1
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George Reiter,
Here is something we can all do. We should call business and shops located in the areas where the occupations are taking place and let them know that you will not be patronizing their businesses this holliday season because you are afraid that the police will attack you. Let them know in no uncertain terms that it is not the protesters that are the problem but the police instead.
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It amazes me that people want to go toward the Marxist way of running things when they do not realize that if not for them living in America, the Occupy Wall Street movement would not be happening at all.
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