Occupying Foreclosed Homes is now Underway
Occupy Wall Street is going off in a new direction today – occupying foreclosed homes. A day of action is planned today in 25 cities across America – including New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago to help Americans hardest hit by foreclosure. Occupy Wall Street patriots will take to the suburbs to stop cops from evicting people from their homes – and they’ll begin “occupying” already foreclosed and vacant homes.
According to a press release from the “Occupy Our Homes” movement: “We, the 99%, are standing up to Wall Street banks and demanding they negotiate with homeowners instead of fraudulently foreclosing on them." The bankster-caused Housing crisis sucked $7.7 trillion in wealth out of the middle class.
It’s time to start getting that money back, home-by-home, bank-by-bank.
Re: Hour 2, Why Young Voters Love Ron Paul
I would like to throw out a couple of questions for debate.
Is Ron Paul a Jeffersonian? If Thomas Jefferson was alive today, would Jefferson be a Libertarian?
Apology from Canada.
Thom, I know as Canadians we seem to apologize a lot.. bumping into mannequins.. stepping on empty shoes..
Today we have something to apologize for. We have a Neo-Con government here that took power with 40 percent of the vote, unfortunately giving them a Majority Government for four years. When someone praises a third party remember that we have four and the vote splitting, in this case between the Liberals and more progressive NDP, can yield un-planned circumstances.
The Conservatives under Steven Harper have dragged their feet for years on Climate Change with the excuse that we can't do anything until the US decides.. other lame reasons.. now they have pulled out of Kyoto with the lame excuse that China et al aren't included.. Basically they are idealogues and take on the causes of the oil companies.
We are witness to the loss of ice volume. This government is pleased with the opening of access for resources and shipping. Of course we will be bullied by our neighbours for jurisdiction over the north, just like with softwood lumber. Speaking of wood, the pine beetle will continue marching north and east now that there aren't enough cold snaps to keep them controlled as they used to be. This is killing huge swaths of forest and fires are inevitable, of course feeding the system.
We have lots of water. The US tried under NAFTA to say that if bottled water was free trade, what's different in diverting a few rivers..? This government is in a quandry. They were thrilled to cooperate with Bush. Harper has adopted lots of his ideas. With President Obama in power, hopefully for a second term, they will be gritting their teeth.. If by chance you manage to do something on Climate Change I bet Harper will have some other excuse to fuddle-duddle around..
I am sorry and ashamed of my country for this. 60% of our people did not vote for these guys. You were only off by a few percent with Bush.
Hmmm, foreign policy, the war on drugs, and civil liberties; the issues that the president has unilateral control over (Very real issues that effect my future, as well as future generations). Yes I would vote for Ron Paul rather than the corporate owned Democratic-Republican establishment. (Keep in mind that there is not a member of the progressive caucus running for president). None the less, the political establishment dictates our choices, be it republican or democrat, it's all the same. They will never allow a candidate who challenges the status quo to ever be presented as a choice.
FOCUS: Pentagon Offers US Police Full Military Hardware
Robert Johnson, Business Insider
Intro: "The US military has some of the most advanced killing equipment in the world that allows it to invade almost wherever it likes at will. We produce so much military equipment that inventories of military robots, M-16 assault rifles, helicopters, armored vehicles, and grenade launchers eventually start to pile up and it turns out a lot of these weapons are going straight to American police forces to be used against US citizens."
Ron Paul is great and so is Dennis Kucinich.. One does not have to agree with everything Ron Paul says. Just bringing back all military posts from around the world, stop the war's is enough for me in the now or next 4 years. One as to wonder if Ron can get it done ? If so, That will be a start. Ron is not playing the circus card or the clown. The rest are a joke , One has to wonder's if they even Know what they are talking about or talking to,and really feel about us. Can one tell Just by what they say. " It seems the 99% are left out! When you think about it , Thank goodness if you get my drift ) Lets keep them out! They sound like orphans.. Again ~ One has to wonder what do they really think of us, that is the 99 %.? ~~ I for one can not watch these debates for most, they are embarrassing.. If one Weigh out circumstances... Its a Circus !
Thom, you said something about young people who vote for Ron Paul as being single issue voters who ignore the Libertarian positions regarding economics.
Can you tell me what single issue you as a democratic voter has (as one who ignores, overlooks, or does not take seriously the Democratic party's positions regarding foreign policy, the war on drugs, and our civil liberties)?
As much as I have questions regarding the economic policies of the Libertarians, the issues of foreign policy (preemptive war & the US global empire in particular) and our civil rights (the president has unlimited power, ect. in particular) trump my economic concerns.
It seems to me that three out of four isn't bad. At least it seems better than one out of four.
Stop Wall Street banks now.
Occupy Bank: Occupy has enough talent to understand Ellen Brown, who will help setting up the Occupy Bank.
Occupy is the only solution to the mess we are in, a totally broken system.
I'm very progressive and have fully supported the Occupy movement to date- but can't get behind this action and am afraid it will really taint the Occupy movement. While we need immediate regulations on the banks and wall st to prevent their continued looting of the American people, I think we must not taint the movement by blatant disregard for property rights and law. It is one thing to occupy a public place- quite another to take over a vacant house. We need to get legislation written and elect representatives who will push it- like the teaparty did.
Garnerp, I agree; occupying private property IS against the law.
It is at least a push back. With all of the bundled packages sold to so many different banks, I wonder if the banks have the Paper Documentation along with the Deed to back up their claim to individual properties being forclosed. After watching Michael Moore's movie, "Capitalism: A Love Story" I think that the Occuppy Movement will have a positive effect on Forclosures...
That should leave NO QUESTION as to what the movement wants!
Occupying foreclosed homes is a great way to focus unwanted attention on one of the the Banksters ongoing criminal acts of, "real estate bubble," treachery, that of fraudulently foreclosing on homes. Homes of vunerable citizens, many just innocent victims, squashed by the unregulated power of concentrated wealth. Mobilizing group action like the "Occupy Our Homes" movement, is key to molding public opinion...it's Bailey vs Potter. This is a great way to force mass media into reporting the ugly truth!
Great speech by Pres. Obama today....Teddy Roosevelt has to be smiling somewhere!
The republican "YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN ECONOMICS" never has and never will work for all but a tiny few!
"One of the fundamental necessities in a REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT such as ours is to make certain that the men to whom the people delegate their power SHALL SERVE THE PEOPLE BY WHOM THEY ARE ELECTED, AND NOT THE SPECIAL INTERESTS." Teddy Roosevelt 1910 New Nationalism speech! .
Think it is inevitable, considering the looming crises facing the U.S. (and Europe), and most of you know what I am talking about. The Occupy movement is only going to grow as long as the gap between the ultra rich and the rest of us gets larger. Push is coming to shove over here, and as long we continue to allow ourselves to be bamboozled by the one percent, including the multi-nationals, there will be no progress. The multi-nationals honor no code or creed, borders, nationalities etc. ...only honors profits for investors. One largely held doomsday scenario is that the U.S. and Europe will eventuallly become low wage (slave) labor markets for the new emerging markets in Asia, especially India and Cina. Those two countries have about a billion people compared to our 350 million over here. Right now they are used to working to working for 2/3 bucks a day - we are not (YET), but the way things are going, many of the very low skill/low wage jobs will be moved back to the U.S. and Europe, And our people will willingly accept them. Nothing in the history of societies ever remains static, and I fear that our turn in the barrel is coming. Just retired from 50 years with Uncle Sam (Military and the Postal Service)... fifteen years in Asia... Back in the early sixties I would never have dreamed that we in this country would have arrived in such a predicament, especially in such a short time... I really fear for the outlook of my grandkids and beyond... Great commentary guys and a special thanx to Thom for his learned observance. We must establish a meaningful dialogue if we are ever going to be able to plan our way out of the emerging debacle(s)!
I really like some of your ideas, knowing what not to do is as important as knowing what we should do... In a country well governed, poverty is something to be ashamed of. In a country poorly governed, wealth is something to be ashamed of.
Tom mucho thanks for your fight aganst the machine.They have the best lawlers I guess if your homeless why not? True freedom is haveing nothing left to lose,When people have nothing left to lose jail does not look so bad.I still have faith in MR.Obama he has had a hard way to go.I belive the fed is in colusion with the banksters as seen on the 60 min. show.The banks should reaprase the value of the houses @ lower the morgages for all the people they screwed
Michael Moore was on Piers Morgan, tonight, for the full hour, again, all the better to improve Piers Morgan's ratings no doubt, and Michael was in really great form, linguistically that is. Piers Morgan did all he could to put a positive spin on Republicans and the ruling elite, and tried to blame the 99% for being irresponsible as being the reason for our horrid economy. But Michael Moore brilliantly responded in every case and pretty much stole the show. Even in the end when Piers tried to use more personal attacks about Michael Moore's love life...dating...Michael hit back with his own rhetorical snap about Piers sex life that left Piers blushing.
Yeah, Obama can make great speeches...especially when he wants people to vote for him again. Speeches don't mean S___! Although it's good to hear him finally starting to sound like he is on our side...but don't count on it after you re-elect him. He is owned by Wall Street. All the ruling elites bucks are counting on Obama to be reelected...after which he can continue his right wing, pro Wall Street, pro bankster agenda. We will have yet another 4 years of the despicable Republican vultures and crony capitalists being even more obstructionist to any left of ultra right moves...and, of course, Obama will get back to business as usual...ie: not being the FDR that some people is trying real hard to believe he is. We were suckers for believing in Obama the first time and some people are doubly so now when they think that Obama's speeches now even means anything at all.
The sheriff's department does evictions. Sheriffs are are elected. Campaign against evicting sheriffs
What I find most interesting, is how we simply forget how the government was complicit and one of the biggest benefactors of the bubble. I keep seeing Clinton smirking as he tells us how he balanced the budget, without mentioning the tech bubble. I love hearing how Bernakie was a student of the Great Depression, he evidently forgot the real estate bubble part. The government could have controlled this because they managed the interest rate, and they, thru the Freddie Fannie oligopoly, could have controlled qualifications.
Giving a pass to all those Washington and state beauracrats, is just not acceptable. For each banker that goes to jail, there should be one bureaucrat.
Hey find a substitute bank Stay the hell out of my BANKS You are an IDIDOT!!!
You are so right !!! hartman does not understand this or is ignoring it. if hartman had any true dedication, he'd be in a tent with thee JURKS!!
Look what you dont understand is the banks have been comitting fraud there is not one legal home loan and not one legal froeclosure happening just read this http://www.famguardian.org/Subjects/MoneyBanking/Banks/MemLaw-BankFraud.pdf
The solution is to fight every foreclosure, the banks are commiting fraud , they never loaned any homeowner any money, they get you to sign a note, which they sell almost immediatly , and use that money to pay the seller of the home, it is explained right here, http://www.famguardian.org/Subjects/MoneyBanking/Banks/MemLaw-BankFraud.pdf with 75 plus court cases cited .
yes so is what the bank are claiming is loaning money http://www.famguardian.org/Subjects/MoneyBanking/Banks/MemLaw-BankFraud.pdf
Its is even better than that, the banks can never validate any of the loans,as required by law, if the homeowner requests it, because they never loaned anyone any money !http://www.famguardian.org/Subjects/MoneyBanking/Banks/MemLaw-BankFraud.pdf
awesome quote, and it fits so perfectly !
Here we go with two wrongs not making a right. I would like my home back, but I can't make myself into a squatter or a trespasser. Why give the police a chance to spray your face? The banks are not going to forgive those who trespass against them.
This movement needs a Think Tank of passive resistance strategies which are not illegal and do not violate any municipal codes, but really mess up bank business. They should have to beg us on their hands and knees to stop, AND deliver a whole new day in banking and insurance which helps American families grow.
For example, banks themselves could be occupied with thousands of customers daily beyond their capacity to deal with. They want to give us the business, so let's give it back-
1. Go to your bank and ask to see a copy of its FDIC Certificate. It is supposed to be in the same file as the copy of the Charter of every bank, but it isn't. (Find out from a bank officer how to get a copy of a bank charter). The card or decal in the window that says "FDIC INSURED" does not count. If your bank is Wells Fargo FDIC Cert.#3511 then there has to be a certificate, or a copy of something torn off the receipt book that says #3511 on it. Go through the levels of management and ask them to tell you why there is no certificate and how can you get one for a court case to establish a federal jurisdiction.
2. Fill out loan applications and account applications that require the time of a desk clerk. Spend as much time as possible getting the clerk to explain every service the bank offers, as well as its Green Policy. Take extra time deciding which style of checks you want and how they should be printed.
3. Cash very small checks frequently (if you have free checking).
4. Deposit very small amounts of cash frequently. Or, deposit one check at a time if you get payments in checks.
5. Get in long lines at the drive -through and start socializing and also honking to open all the lanes.
6. Do not allow your bank to collect an ATM fee.
7. When you run bank errands, bring plenty of children with you who are old enough be on their own in the lobby, and one crying baby.
8. Don't use banks at all.
Or, be like we who dedicate our lives to gathering proof certain First American families, and I don't mean Indian, have a means to rob the populace generation to generation, in a mob-like fashion, as an inside job. It's always been known, at least since 1904, they have something going on, but how they do it has eluded Scotland Yard and all the rest all this time, many to their graves.
They have no intention of easing off or pulling in their horns now, because they are totally in - there are no Attorney Generals or Law Enforcers they fear. Instead, they can turn the police against us for breaking laws that they made to keep themselves protected from being overrun by angry Commoners.