Is the boycott of all companies that give money to ALEC working?

Corporate donors to the Koch brothers-funded right-wing think thank known as the American Legislative Exchange Council – or ALEC – are dropping like flies. On Thursday – Kraft became the third major corporation to part ways with ALEC – joining Coca-Cola and Pepsi.

ALEC sponsors were put on notice this week, when the organization Color for Change called for a boycott of all companies that give money to ALEC. The group is protesting ALEC-written right-wing Voter ID laws that disenfranchise minority voters, as well as Stand Your Ground laws that increase minority deaths. Despite three corporations jumping ship in response to the boycott – several others like Wal Mart, Pfizer, and Reynolds are sticking by ALEC so that ALEC can continue laundering their influence-buying money for Republican state lawmakers.

Time to ramp up the pressure and boycott corporations that are stealing our democracy.


peaceforall 10 years 50 weeks ago

The boycott is making companies aware of the interests of the people. Fox "news" distorts everything so people hear lies and vote for those that do not represent their interests. Rush convinces them that the poor do not matter. We let Rush off a hook a little too quick.

peaceforall 10 years 50 weeks ago

It's said that unions are the only force capable of combating the giant corporate interests, even though unions have a fraction of the money, States are introducing anti-union bills but also please look into underhanded anti-union bills. States now have laws saying attendance can be used for public employee evaluations. So if you get sick, even for a week, especially if you cost more, you are fired because tenure is gone for teachers in many states, not just Wisconsin. Teachers with cancer who go for treatment twice a month will now be fired because their attendance will be used against them. Most do not know that districts are using this attendance law even when unions have helped negotiated sick days. If you have 100 sick days banked, you can not use any of them or you may be fired, If you take fmla leave, it does not count as days worked towards retirement or seniority. States other than Wisconsin have new evaluation laws that say if you get a poor evaluation; based often on one visit by an administrator, you are fired even if or maybe especially if you have an illness or make a decent salary. If you get an okay evaluaton, you may still be fired based on a one day visit by one person. ALEC may not have been behind these new laws, but groups like ALEC were involved In CO and other states. Taking the money out of public education, they think, will save them money. Dr. Diane Ravitch would disagree.

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mathboy 10 years 50 weeks ago

Since there's no daily post yet, I'll comment here.

I'm guessing I missed a discussion on the air, but here goes. Yes, human's don't have the same teeth as dogs, cats, etc., but that's because we're omnivores rather than pure carnivores. The caller didn't seem to mean that humans shouldn't eat plants, just that we evolved to eat some meat, and we did. Our teeth are very different from pure herbivores too. For instance some of them are missing incisors.

Also, meat isn't really a flavoring for plants, it's more the other way around. Even people who love to grill put herbs and sauces on their meat.

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mathboy 10 years 50 weeks ago

"Usury" is not /yoo-soo-ree/, it's /yoo-zhoo-ree/, like "usual".

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The Real World 10 years 50 weeks ago

So peace, you watch Fox news and listen to Rush limbaugh?

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mathboy 10 years 50 weeks ago

Correction: 77500% return on investment means that for every dollar "invested" in a politician, the lobbyist gets 775 dollars back, not 77500 dollars.

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mathboy 10 years 50 weeks ago

Misprision. I've got to learn that word. I'll probably put it in my hypothetical constitution.

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mathboy 10 years 50 weeks ago

Thom, I've pointed this out before: Article III, Section 2 is a list of types of cases, not a list of types of decisions. The appropriate type of case for nullification is one of equity to which the United States is a party, which is listed there.

The Constitution doesn't explicitly allow any types of decisions, so, by your logic, you would have to believe that the Supreme Court has no ability to judge cases in any way whatsoever.

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freelyb 10 years 50 weeks ago

Hi, all

Am new here, but was inpired to enter the fray after watching th March 15th show. Just purchased Thom's Reader and The Prophet's Way and am waiting for their arrival. Will be brief because this isn't on topic, but wondered (Thom, if you're here) what other books you might recommend for the lay reader who wants to understand more about what is currently known involving the interplay of quantum dynamics and human thought/potential.Ty for a great show. I share your religion, but am a little clueless about this aspect of things.

Fan from Loveland, CO

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SteveS 10 years 49 weeks ago

I've found that boycotts don't work too well. For instance, I tried to boycott all businesses that donated to Scott Walker. However, I am retired (living on a fixed income) and cannot afford to buy some of my medications unless I buy them at Sam's Club (Walmart) where I've found them to be most reasonably priced. There were a few other Walker supporters' businesses whose products were better than products I could find elsewhere. I still try not to buy from Walker supporters, and will often go out of my way to avoid them, but I can't always. The list of ALEC companies is far more extensive than the list of companies supporting Walker. I would find it difficult to maintain a boycott of all of them.

Second, just who is the boycott hurting? The employees of these companies do not necessarily support ALEC. In fact, I doubt most of the low-paid employees do, and they are the ones who will be the first to be laid off if business slows down.

I have found that getting involved politically is a better way to fight ALEC!

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fatfax 10 years 49 weeks ago

Increasing RAGE against the right..... god I love it so....

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stecoop01 10 years 49 weeks ago

Well, I guess I won't be shopping at Wal-mart any more.

As for the Supreme Court ruling on the Constitutionality of laws...I'd be alright with that if we elected the bloody assholes. Can we amend the Constitution nto make Supreme Court judge an elected, term-limited office?

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nelle 10 years 49 weeks ago

I've been boycotting wal mart and coke cola ever since I found out they donated millions in support of walker's union busting in Wisconsin months ago. I'm a public employee standing with Wisconsin the only way I can. Plan on leaving AT&T for their membership to ALEC. ALEC=Koch Brothers destruction of America.

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Nuula 10 years 49 weeks ago

Post your excellent interview of Great Minds today, as you introduced the subject of ALEC, my mind was racing to talk to you. In Canada we have strict gun control laws for good reason. We value them. We need them to remain firmly in place. Our gun registry program crashed, that the Government has NO right to ask us to register legal fire arms that are already legal and accounted for. They tried though. I'm sure the DEA had something to do with implementing it, as they have long been granted all rights to over-ride our own countries law enforcemnt. Somebody really dropped the ball on that one! When the Spaniards, among others came to our continent so many years ago and brought guns, disease and alcohol, all three were effective in eliminating much of the indiginous peoples they either enslaved or blatantly murdered. Back to the interview of why prejudice is so prevelant and why the "Shoot First" policy will also fail. Putting weapons in the hands of the good and righteous folk" to do your dirty work for you (themselves being govermnet) is a dastardly way of having their way. How ironic they felt it was ok to enslave the peoples they brought to the land to do their physical dirty work and still. Centuries later, the wish to eliminate them now that they don't do their dirty work for them anymore (at least not legally, as they continue to bring Mexicans and others into the country to do dirty work of all kinds, from the sex trade, human trade, drug trade, crop picking and domestic work - privately for themselves), is purely a matter of convenience. This is to prevent assimilation, which failed with the indiginous peoples and was later directed toward other minorities, so to speak. No money or help is ever to be made available from THIER coffers for such purpose, period. Martin Luther King started the ball rolling, among others. My own family hid people of the underground railroad when Slavery was in the initial stages of abolishment. French Canadians, might I add. Interesting. Now that so many of us, any race, creed or colour are subject to their "New World Order", oh my goodness... all at once, the wall comes tumbling down - round the world! Some Stephen King reading is in order. The Post Man in particular. Robert Heinlans Starship Troopers is my novel of hope for our future. I think we'll make it, just fine. Won't be easy, many continue to die, but it shall come to bare. I'm sure of it!


Mary Anne

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Nuula 10 years 49 weeks ago

Well stated! So many great responses. This IS a part of getting involved, politically, so to speak. But - it's only a start. Voices must come to unison to be heard properly. How history is stuck on repeat, sadly! Somebody needs to adjust the needle on the record!

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Nuula 10 years 49 weeks ago

May I suggest "The Prophet" by Kahlil Gibran. Marvelous text to have on hand, anytime! Was gifted to me and I've gifted it to others. It's that kind of a book. Very important piece of work. A small, condensed, light and pleasant read!

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Nuula 10 years 49 weeks ago

Good comments! We need to learn from the natural world, the whats and hows of the life cycle of all living things. David Suzuki teaches this so well. Many have learned much from our indiginous people who are so sharing of their knowledge. My own experience of such has been nothing shy of wonderful, enlightening and marvelous. I'm learning how to be proud of my person, not my race identity. THAT has been some of my best learning ever. Aplace for everything and everything in its place. Harmonious, it is!

"Knowledge is nothing if not shared." Author unknown to me.

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Nuula 10 years 49 weeks ago

My, you are well read! Appreciated!

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lavendar65714 10 years 49 weeks ago

Usury ; Yoo/ sir/ ree. And I'm in Miz/ ur/ ree the political state, not the emotional state. But you can call it Miz/ ur/ uh if you like.

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Palindromedary 10 years 49 weeks ago

"(From 2004 to 2008, Bush authorized 42 drone strikes, according to the New America Foundation. The number has more than quadrupled under President Obama—to 180 at last count.)" "Administration officials insist that the targeted killings rest on a solid legal foundation, but many scholars disagree. Georgetown University’s Gary Solis, the author of The Law of Armed Conflict, says people at the CIA who pilot unmanned aerial vehicles are civilians directly engaged in hostilities, an act that makes them “unlawful combatants” and possibly subject to prosecution."


Shady Companies With Ties to Israel Wiretap the U.S. for the NSA..... By James Bamford

"Narus was formed in Israel in November 1997 by six Israelis with much of its money coming from Walden Israel, an Israeli venture capital company." "At AT&T, the wiretapping rooms are powered by software and hardware from Narus, now owned by Boeing, a discovery made by AT&T whistleblower Mark Klein in 2004." A few years ago, Narus boasted that it is “known for its ability to capture and collect data from the largest networks around the world.” The company says its equipment is capable of “providing unparalleled monitoring and intercept capabilities to service providers and government organizations around the world” and that “Anything that comes through [an Internet protocol network], we can record. We can reconstruct all of their e-mails, along with attachments, see what Web pages they clicked on, we can reconstruct their [Voice over Internet Protocol] calls.” "Like Narus, Verint was founded by in Israel by Israelis,...." "Among its products is STAR-GATE, which according to the company’s sales literature, lets “service providers … access communications on virtually any type of network, retain communication data for as long as required, and query and deliver content and data …” and was “[d]esigned to manage vast numbers of targets, concurrent sessions, call data records, and communications.”

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washnwmn 10 years 49 weeks ago

I agree boycotts are an important way of getting the message across. Some of these companies have so many subsidiaries, it's tough to know who all to boycott. Remember pepsi co and Coca-cola own numerous fast food chains like Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, KFC, etc. Just say "no" to fast foods! Or, at least support your locally owned burger stands and cafes.

gary heyder 10 years 49 weeks ago

i believe in boycott ;and writing representatives in congress spending time with democratic party for a more ppl friendly congress and Presidency like Obama wants to be especially if he sees the people behing him,he gave us health care and we gave him the tea party whats he to think ??

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humanitys team 10 years 49 weeks ago

It is so easy to boycott and not support these company,s ,just by buying natural ,organic life sustaining products that are earth kind would do ,and buy them from small new start up company's ,its better for your health ,better for the planet and makes a huge difference for local decentralized communities.

We do not have to be dependent on manufacturers,corporations,energy suppliers,politicians,they just keep us in bondage in this consumer culture.In fact the Achilles heal of humanity is dependency.

Lets get back to localized economies ,we can be self sufficient and no longer dependent on our basic needs from distant sources,this in turn would produce greater freedom and a higher quality of life.

This is called taking responsibility for our collective future and not intrusting this to corporations that do not care about the PRIME VALUE OF LIFE., and that,s why you have not got an economy that,s based on nature and is in harmony with the natural world if it was most products would be made from the planets no 1 plant HEMP ,anything that you can make from ANCIENT SUNLIGHT(OIL)you can make from hemp and is sustainable.

Raising the collective consciousness of the planet is the only way to change consciousness of the planet,what do you think Thom is doing-its not just for himself its for all of us ,i am so in awe of his efforts and his determination to raise awareness of whats really going on .

Tag we are it !!!!

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mathboy 10 years 49 weeks ago

Freelyb, welcome from another Coloradan.

To find books on the "interplay of quantum dynamics and human thought/potential", I'll give you a hint. They won't be in the science section of the bookstore. You'll want to look for New Age in the religion section. Even though quantum mechanics obviously has something to do with the chemical reactions in the brain, that also applies to all matter, and so far nothing scientific has found an indication that human thought is special in QM terms. Sentience is so far an inexplicable emergent property.

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Craig Bush 10 years 49 weeks ago

No country for authors? For the homeless words are all we have left. To write is to be. Despair is not an option. Your postive affirmations are worth the walk from our homeless camps to the coffee shop to plug in. We walk the woods and stay awake at night. The starry skies and animal eyes singe your mind. Just have to keep walking. Be a hunter or be hunted. You need skills to melt into the trees or be tazed and your tent and sleeping bag taken away. Fear is not an option. What's the worry? We have friends like Tom and Bernie!

We are getting real good in joining in boycotts. Newman's Own products are much better then Kraft. Focus on what you do consume. Buy locally. Think organic. Make water a human right owned by the state and not private owners. Bring democracy back to our country. End the rule by the ruling upper class power elite. We want a 4 day work week and an alternate 3 day shift with a liveable wage. We want affordable housing for all. There is no liberty without life. You cannot have life without healthcare. Healthcare is a basic human right. The job our forefathers began is not done. We must continue the work.

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Dutch163 10 years 49 weeks ago

I agree with you about unions..and what they gain helps not only union members but trickles over to all workers...

I am very sad about the attack on public education...

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mathboy 10 years 49 weeks ago

In comment #9, I had forgotten what Nullification was, and I caught half the conversation, so I got a little mixed up. I was just talking about the federal courts' power to strike down laws, not the states' (unestablished) power to do so.

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Palindromedary 10 years 49 weeks ago

I do hope that we have more to our defense against the predator class than say..the Monarch Butterflies...that most predators know how badly they taste...very bitter, I'm told..that they avoid eating them. Could be that the predator class may have created something that may very well blow back on them. Violence is increasing....and no police to deal with it in many cities. Oakland had so many 911 calls in the last couple of days that they couldn't respond to many of them. The police wanted victims to just file an on-line report. I think I'll hang on to my peace of mind that speaks louder than words for a little while longer. We cannot rely on the police to protect us. And that may very well be "in bad taste" but it works for the Monarch Butterflies. Where's my hoodie!

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