Despite Getting Zero Mentions in Any of The Presidential Debates...

The fight between Sensata workers and Bain Capital is heating up. Bain Capital is shutting down the Sensata factory in Freeport, Illinois on November 5th, just before the election, and sending 170 American jobs off to China. But the workers who will lose their jobs aren’t going down without a fight. Workers have been holding rallies outside the factory for weeks, prompting Bain Capital on Tuesday to issue a threat that if protests continue then Bain would immediately shut down the plant.

In response, on Wednesday, workers filed unfair labor practices charges against Sensata – and then attempted a march to the facility to demand a meeting with the plant manager. Reverend Jesse Jackson joined with the workers in the march, but he and thirteen others were arrested outside the plant.

Workers have been pleading with Mitt Romney to use his influence to prevent the closing of the factory. But Romney hasn’t said a word – and according to 2011 tax returns, he still owns stock in the company and stands to profit from the outsourcing of Sensata. Unfortunately, President Obama hasn’t said a word about Sensata either. That’s because both parties, by and large, have bought into these neoliberal free trade policies that are decimating American manufacturing.

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again – the first political party to stand up and defend American workers and America’s manufacturing base by cracking down on free trade and outsourcing policies will win big at the polls.

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klentz 9 years 31 weeks ago
#1

It shouldn't be too tough to find out what auto brands use sensata sensors - then organize a boycott against all those that do. If all of them do, then find out who buys the most.

First to cave will be the boycotted auto company(s), who depend so strongly on domestic sales. It will not take long for them to cancel Sensata orders and use replacement sensors, and Sensata will think again about moving.

Secondly - why is nothing said of how many millions in taxpayer money sensata is getting to subsidize this move - nevermind tax base erosion. This loophole needs to be slammed shut on day 1 of a democratic controlled government.

Is there even one intelligent, non-compromised journalist in all of the media?

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Musiclady 9 years 31 weeks ago
#2

I just heard on MSNBC that Romney will put $701,000.00 into his personal 401 K plan when Sensada is outsourced to China.

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Musiclady 9 years 31 weeks ago
#3

Not on the subject of Sensada, but did anyone hear Romney tell voters in Ohio, that he believed in vouchers so that people could take their child to a Charter school or shop around for the best school? He was quoted as saying "The teacher's unions don't like my plan, but they don't contribute to my campaign, so I don't have to listen to them." If you read beyond the lines, he is essentially saying that money will buy favors from me.

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chuckle8 9 years 31 weeks ago
#4

Thom could be called a journalist. So, there is at least one.

Global's picture
Global 9 years 31 weeks ago
#5

What about all the jobs here in the USA that Obama will outsource to illegal immigrants if he is elected and declares amnesty in his promised immigration reform. He is promising this today to pander to the Latino Vote.

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Kend 9 years 31 weeks ago
#6

What is wrong with shopping around for a better school. Isn't it parents job to get the best for their children.

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acarstensen 9 years 31 weeks ago
#7

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again – the first political party to stand up and defend American workers and America’s manufacturing base by cracking down on free trade and outsourcing policies will win big at the polls.

No they won't. They wouldn't get on the ballot in enough states, and they wouldn't be allowed in the debates. Face it Thom, we're screwed.

Extraemail 9 years 31 weeks ago
#8

The first political party to stand up and defend American workers and America’s manufacturing base by cracking down on free trade and outsourcing policies will BE THE NEW LIBERAL POLITICAL PARTY.

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ken ware 9 years 31 weeks ago
#9

Global, perhaps you missed the news on your fox variety show; Obama has deported more illegal aliens then any President so far! More than Your guy Bush did in his 8 years, that is probably because his political donors made money on illegals in their factories. He has pissed off the Latino voters because they feel he hasn't done enough. Try to get your facts straight, even if you’re a Republican that is no excuse to get the facts wrong. Unless your name is Romney !

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HalFonts 9 years 31 weeks ago
#10

Now is the time for the factory workers to hit hard. Next week will be too late. They may lose but they can do as much damage as possible to Bain/Romney/Repugs on the way out -- it's their best barganing chip; but unfortunately already (almost) too late.

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ken ware 9 years 31 weeks ago
#11

Kend, my friend from Canada, there is nothing wrong with shopping around for the school you prefer your children to attend. What is wrong is to use tax payer funds to finance that charter school, while taking money out of the Public Schools, that the citizens have a right to review under the school board. Not a school that is run by Privateers for personal profit and the parents have no direct influence on the schools other than using tax payer money.

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ken ware 9 years 31 weeks ago
#12

It is the Presidents fault and the presidents that came before him for signing every free trade agreement that comes across his (their) desk. Congress is also to blame for all the jobs we have lost to foreign countries. It is obvious that the political contributions that come streaming in from these American and Multi-National companies to the politicians are why this continues to happen to the American worker. They sign these bills for their war chests for their next election. Since N.A.F.T.A. was enacted the stream of jobs leaving this country is almost as great as the stream of illegal undocumented workers that take American jobs every day in this country. Obama is responsible for signing and promoting the latest free trade agreement with Asian countries like Vietnam. China's goods pour into this country and very little is sent from our factories to their consumers! It would take a decade to retool all of our factories that have been shut down because we cannot compete with a worker making 20 dollars a day! Our politicians have signed away the future of production in America and left future generations with little hope of maintaining our present standard of living (and that is nothing to brag about) for cheap imports. I hope our future generations like working at part-time jobs and service sector employment. Because if things continue the way they presently are, those are the only jobs that will be available. With higher education becoming a fleeting dream for our future generations, with expected costs to exceed $400,000 for a bachelor’s degree within the next ten years, the service sector low paying jobs will be the only employment available to them! I am very happy I am a 60 yr. old and was able to send my daughter to a four year college. If I had to do it today I would not have the funds to do so, and neither would any of the parents I know. Good luck and here is hoping that things will change for our future kids and grandkids!

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ken ware 9 years 31 weeks ago
#13

Pertaining to the Charter School subject; The Republicans have put a proposition on the ballot for Nov. that will prohibit the Teachers Unions from using money from dues that are paid, to help a candidate of their choice. Also, they are trying to eliminate Teachers bargaining rights when their contracts come up for renewal. It is called Prop. 32 and is very similar to the situation with teachers in Chicago! The Repub-lipukes are trying their best to eliminate the public sector unions. The sponsors of this Prop. Have just received an $11,000,000 DONATION from a Pac in Arizona! The Republicans are out to destroy any political opposition that they can and many people are falling for it, here in California. My daughter is a teacher with a master’s degree and she has decided that she will leave teaching and go into the private sector, where she will actually make more money than she does teaching. Many of her colleagues are thinking of doing the same thing or moving to another state if Prop. 32 passes here. They became teachers because they love kids and the good they can do for our future generations. But, if corporate money is going to dictate the future of education than they feel it is time to seek another way to earn a living as far as she and many of her colleagues plan to do.

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js121 9 years 31 weeks ago
#14

I was going to try to answer you comment; but, alas, I would have to write a book report and a hundred links for reference. There was nothing wrong with Public Schools that increasing funding rather than cutting for 8 yrs (Bush). Privatizing schools is an ALEC corporate membership at work. It's a $5billion industry just rip for the picking according to Murdoch. The Chicago school strike was about Murdoch's Wireless Generation testing company. At stake? $5million. The tests would impact teachers greatly since 40% of their assessment is based on those tests. There is SOOOOO much wrong with privatizing schools, prisons, post office. Please see alecexposed.org - education. It's an easy read and will give you a good grasp of what is at stake by letting corporations run our children's future.

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js121 9 years 31 weeks ago
#15

What he is doing is admitting that he'll be working for Corporations...NOT us!! The New Right of Paul Weyrich has a few "arms". Heritage Fdn; Free Congress Fdn; Moral Majority; and ALEC. All created by Paul Weyrich. ALEC has 2000+ republican politicians and 600+ major corporations as members. ALEC corporations sit at the table and write our laws - with these politicians. The politicians pass them, boilerplate them, and send to all New Right Republican states for immediate implementation. (alexexposed.org; center for media and democracy.org; prwatch.org, etc). Rupert Murdoch owns Wireless Generation which is the testing company making MILLIONS off each state that privatizes our schools. It's the biggest racket I've ever seen...except for their privatized prison system and tort reforms so we can't sue them. Really, Michigan has gone Charter School/vouchers and it is sooo bad!!! I went to public school in a large city and did very well all my life. There was always room for improvement; but, Bush and these corporate-interest states undermined it by cutting funding, etc.. If we would have not done that - we were improving every year under the old system. Well, I'm too old for school now; but, my grandson has been homeschooled by myself for over a year now because the privatized system does not educate them!!!!!

ese 9 years 31 weeks ago
#16

I, too, want a reporter to ask POTUS about this situation, It is sad that there are many reporters of integrity (CrooksandLiars reporters; truthout reporters; and especially Greg Pallast Amy Goodman--problem is they can't getclose enough to directly ask POTUS. It is sad and bad that POTUS can't find those 'comfortable shoes' he promised to wear--He was a no-show in Walker's fight against public unions' bargaining rights and he had every opportunity to literally stand with the fired Senata workers in Freeport/Bainport. He could have decimated Romnoid in debates by telling Romney his profiteering on Sensata outsourcing & we, the people's taxes was abhorrent--and merely the latest in decades' long cause of joblessness in America. Too bad, too, that I see no choice except vote BO/Joe. But we must organize like MLK's Poor People's Campaign as soon as they're re-elected. If Romney-Ryan ride in on our anger/apathy, the only thing people I love can organize is new 'Hoovervilles' and food drives. As Thom sez: 'Despair is not an option.' Just vote. THEN we'll talk a new walk...getting lefties like Bernie Sanders (and Dr. Jill Stein & other Greens) into government is a must. Plus a new 'war on poverty' must be created. Sorry. I took up too much space here. Let me just conclude by saying a reverent RIP for the recent passing of people I respected & admired for years: George McGovern and Russell Means; and for the passing +-10? years ago in a plane crash of Paul Wellstone, I add my respects tothe many already written. These are people we need in politics, both inside & outside: Ryan/Romney/RepubliCONS couldn't shine their shoes; they couldn't reach that high.

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bobbler 9 years 31 weeks ago
#17

With the main parties both on the right, They really should include the Green Party (who are more like real democrats) in the debate. Surely stein is not In favor of this continual migration of American jobs overseas. But I agree big money will never allow this, having spent so much money to attain controlling interest in the two main parties.

ese 9 years 31 weeks ago
#18

Agreed, Thanks for stating this so succinctly. As you can see from my comment here about reporting on Sensata, I do go on.

So, to respect your clarity & brevity, just let me say privatization in these areas--I'll get into public utilities another time!--to start from a to z what's essence of Bain/GOP: a. greed.

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SHFabian 9 years 31 weeks ago
#19

We understand that a massive number of jobs have been shipped out, and yet, as a matter of policy (per Clinton's welfare "reform"), the government position is that "there is no excuse" for failing to be employed. With each large layoff, there are a number of people who are not going to be able to get another job. Once you're unemployed for some length of time, you are effectively written off as "unemployable." Employers simply will not hire you, regardless of your past experience, qualifications, etc. The good news is that Americans no longer need to live in terror of welfare dependency. The bad news is that it might well be the end of the road for you. Cities in the US work hard to keep the homeless out of public sight, and their numbers grow. Infant mortality rates among the poor have increased, and the life expectancy of America's poor has actually fallen below that of some Third World countries, since Clinton's welfare "reform." We're all cool with that. Still, more and more upstanding hard-working middleclass Americans "choose the poverty lifestyle," and the numbers of those enjoying homelessness, hunger and deprivation keeps on growing -- even as we remain so focused on ignoring them! So -- I think we really should discuss what we should do about all those who have been pushed out of employment, out of our economic system entirely. Any ideas? (Note: Over thirty years of calling for job creation does not appear to be an adequate answer.) If we can't address this basic issue, there is no chance of rebuilding the sort of country where a huge middle class was possible, and what's left of today's middle class will be gone.

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Bob Brereton 9 years 31 weeks ago
#20

If the letter writer doesn't like illegal immigrants taking jobs away from Americans, he better give up eating lettuce, watermelon, ground beef, berries and numerous other food products that are put into our mouths due to the efforts of these same illegals. In others words, he's part of the problem. Quit complaining about illegals taking jobs unless you're willing to go hungry.

Incidentally, there have been over 3 million illegal immigrants who have exmigrated in the last 4+ years. Those jobs these folks were taking were so poor that returning home to Ecaudor, El Salvador, Guatemala, Mexico etc.was a better option.

There are now around 11 million illegal immigrants in the US. One can reasonably figure about 60% of these people are actually working with others being too young to work, too old to work, in school, or staying at home to mind young children. That means there are about 6.6 million illegal workers in the US. We are a country of around 310 million people. Don't tell me that 6.6 million people are ruining the economy of a country this big.

Final point: Northern Europeans and Spaniards are the true illegal immigrants. They came to what is now the US and Mexico and irradicated the Indian populations and stole their lands and resourses for theselves. Try to begin to understand the history of vast swathes of the Southwestern U.S. The Spanish were settling vast areas of Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, California, Nevada, and Utah for over 350 years before Europeans began to take control. Cortez conquered Mexico soon after Colubus "discovered" the New World in 1492. America did not gain territory here until the mid-1800's.

As many Mexicans say when told to "Go Home!": "We never left!"

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leila 9 years 31 weeks ago
#21

It is already illegal for union dues to be used for anything political, such as political campaigns, rallies, political mailings, etc. Unions' PACs are supported by voluntary contributions, not dues.

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Bob Brereton 9 years 31 weeks ago
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If the letter writer doesn't like illegal immigrants taking jobs away from Americans, he better give up eating lettuce, watermelon, ground beef, berries and numerous other food products that are put into our mouths due to the efforts of these same illegals. In others words, he's part of the problem. Quit complaining about illegals taking jobs unless you're willing to go hungry.

Incidentally, there have been over 3 million illegal immigrants who have exmigrated in the last 4+ years. Those jobs these folks were taking are so poor that returning home to Ecaudor, El Salvador, Guatemala, Mexico etc.is a better option.

There are now around 11 million illegal immigrants in the US. One can reasonably figure about 60% of these people are actually working with others being too young to work, too old to work, in school, or staying at home to mind young children. That means there are about 6.6 million illegal workers in the US. We are a country of around 310 million people. Don't tell me that 6.6 million people are ruining the economy of a country this big.

Final point: Northern Europeans and Spaniards are the true illegal immigrants. They came to what is now the US and Mexico and irradicated the Indian populations and stole their lands and resourses for theselves. Try to begin to understand the history of vast swathes of the Southwestern U.S. The Spanish were settling vast areas of Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, California, Nevada, and Utah for over 350 years before Europeans began to take control. Cortez conquered Mexico soon after Colubus "discovered" the New World in 1492. America did not gain territory here until the mid-1800's.

Many Mexicans, when told to "Go Home!" respond: "We never left!"

dianhow 9 years 31 weeks ago
#23

US has been trading with China since Nixon Plus we own them trillions of dollars which dilutes our power . Deregulation policy began in 1981 with Reaganomics trickle down , deregulation of Banks , airlines, trucking, and more plus busting of unions . Reagans huge debt and his Total amnesty ( w/ wide open borders ) brought many millions of illegals to the US which brought down US wages. Its all about Cheap labor for the Robber barons aka Powerful corps that run DC thru DC lobbyists and massive amounts of money. / bribes . ALan Greenspan & pals pushed like mad for FREE markets & FREE trade with NO regulations. That helped put us on road to 2008 global collapse./crash Greenspan convinced Bill Clinton that NAFTA was a great idea., then he signed Glass steagal A very bad decision. These policies are ' almost ' impossilbe to undue now after so many years.and a GOP who will fight it tooth and nail . However we must push Obama to do so if its at all possilbe. .Obama has had his plate over flowing with disasters .. 2 long UNfunded wars- huge corp cuts- loopholes- worst crash since 1929 / TARP scam on taxpayers Former Goldman Sachs CEO ( all Fed chairman came from Goldman Paulson Rubin Greenspan Bernacki ) sure took care of his own when writing 4 page TARP with NO safe guards for taxpayers money . I appreciate that Obama made it a priority to catch Bin laden and top al qauda Our sworn enemies. Bush Cheney just gave up. I also like that Obama passed first health reofrm ever , pre-existing illness is covered as well as students . Thats an investment in our future So is clean energy Problem with most folks is we are so short sighted .We can not see more than few years ahead I will not forget that T Bagger led GOP vowed from day one to cause Obama's Waterloo / make him fail THat tells how little they care of our country, economy , jobs and its people.

dianhow 9 years 31 weeks ago
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Most Mexicans came after Reagans 1986 total amnesty..he did so leaving southern border wide open . Now what do you think he had in mind and who was he helping ? Surely not working Americans or our wages Millions are here now Its not fair to punish their kids who know no other home but the USA. Pass DREAM act Let them go to college or serve the country , serve in the Army to get a path to citizenship WE can find a fair way to do this ..

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Kend 9 years 31 weeks ago
#25

Those tax dollars are everyone's. If you take money out to go to a private school you are also taking the student out of the public system as well so there is no cost to the public system. The Problem with the public school system is only half the staff is in the class room what do the rest of them do?

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mstaggerlee 9 years 30 weeks ago
#26

I'm not so sure we can draw the conclusion that the reason Obama chose not to mention Sensata in the debates had anything to do with free-trade kool-aid - not to say he hasn't imbibed, but that doesn't imply causation.

I think he chose not to bring it up because Mittch-A-Sketch already has an answer for it ... He retired from Bain Capital 10 or 12 years ago (I'm not sure of the exact number ... but then again, neither is he!) and has no control over their business decisions. Obama could conceivably follow up with something amounting to "Yeah ... but you're still makin' money from them, aint'c'ha?", which would (a) kinda sound like sour grapes, and (2) inspire another "blind trust" reply.

MSNBC would call the point a draw ... FOX would say point Romney.

It's not only COVERED as sports, y'see ... it's STRATEGIZED that way, too.

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mstaggerlee 9 years 30 weeks ago
#27

"If you take money out to go to a private school you are also taking the student out of the public system as well so there is no cost to the public system."

Uh-huh ... because it costs EXACTLY twice as much to cook dinner for 2 as it does for one, right? There's no such thing as economy of scale, is there?

As enrollment in public schools decreases, and funding drops accordingly, the services they offer the community - after school programs, clubs, sports ... you know, the things that keep kids off the streets and out of trouble - are the first things to go. If your kids doesn't go to the same school as your neighbor's kids do, it's less likely you'll get to know them as well. Community spirit is degraded. Neighborhoods crumble. It's every family for themselves.

Oops ... I'm pretty much describing Republican Paradise, ain't I?

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Palindromedary 9 years 30 weeks ago
#28

Here's a suggestion on voting on the measures in your state in the event you find them confusing. Don't make the mistake of voting against your best interests..eg: voting for measures Republicans are trying to get you to vote for. Each party has their recommendations on how to vote for these measures posted on their respective web site. The recommendations by the Republican Party are all completely opposite from those of the Democrat party and the Green party. The measures by the Democrat and Green parties are virtually the same. Don't be confused by the flashy commercials and political junk mail. I have found that most are funded by Republicans.

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Johnnie Dorman 9 years 30 weeks ago
#29

I have SO HAD IT with these traitors to America like Willard Robme. This fascist slave driver of China should be kicked out of the country, along with all the rest of the Neo-con traitors. The creep made all his millions on the backs of the working middle class and he should be ostricised as the sellout punk that he is. It's way past time that the middle class of America took back our American quality of life that these fascist corporate pigs stole from us. Well past time, indeed.

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Rboisvert7 9 years 30 weeks ago
#30

Vote for Jill Stein of the Green Party if you want real change but if you choose the lesser of two evils then nothing will change. www.jillstein.org

Vote what you believe.

A simple enough statement. If we all found the courage to do so, we would begin to rebuild the country we deserve instead of settling for what gets left behind.

The Green Party and our 2004 presidential nominee made the Ohio Recount possible. If not for the continued determination of elected Greens, we would not have municipal sick leave or minimum wage and living wage policies in cities across the country. There would be no movement to amend the Constitution to overturn the Citizens United ruling and end the toxic influence of money in our political system. The cause of equal marriage rights would not be as far along as it is (because of Green mayors and mayoral candidates defying anti-marriage laws in CA and NY). And the 100s of cities that passed anti-war and anti-PATRIOT Act resolutions would likely have been many fewer, since those efforts were also led by Green elected officials.

Meanwhile the establishment parties try to avoid our discontent by changing the subject from the real problems we face, and making elections all about preventing the other party from winning. In a way, the Democrats and Republicans are each correct. Either one of them winning would mean more of the same for America: maintaining a status quo that continues to ruin what is best about the United States.

The Green Party and the Green New Deal will shatter the status quo by addressing the real economic, social, and political challenges we face at their root causes with specific and already proven solutions. Vote for Jill Stein for President. Give a mandate for the Green New Deal.

Join us and come be part of the solution. We are all in this together.

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2950-10K 9 years 30 weeks ago
#31

Zero mention of Sensata in the debates! So will the corpse mass media bother to mention Willard's most recent example of passive economic terrorism? I think not!

Those voters exposed mainly to the biggest lies that money can buy have zero chance of voting in their own best interest if they have zero meaningful information to go by. Sure I wish everyone would listen to progressive talk radio and watch MSNBC and get truth in reporting, but it just isn't enough to reach those who need it most. How do you reach people driven by religious illusion in a, "red state," of fanatic delirium to vote for a civilized life in this world rather than wait for the next? How do we get the media to point out the greedy and immoral truth about Bain and also talk about the real motivation behind Ryan's budget plan.....a redistribution of wealth on steroids. This stuff is who these characters are and the electorate needs to know it!

Speaking of who these guys are, in Romney we have a man who already with countless millions, and no real need for more, was willing to pursue further self enrichment by basically stealing from honest hard working people and at the same time leave behind a wake of economic hardship and misery. His brand of capitalism always does! You can hear the Sensata victims stories on Utube, this is not political propaganda it's a cold and ugly reality created directly by Romney in the past and created by passive connection now. This sort of self serving immoral character is the last thing we need in the White House. This man has the the propensity to inflict global damage on a scale never witnessed in history. It will have nothing to do with religious prophecy but everything to do with the reality of a person with a tortured soul, one who constantly thirsts for more money and power with no end in sight. To a guy like Romney the White House is just another purchased trophy in his endless quest for more power. The problem is, his disorder much like that of the Kochs, has far reaching and damaging consequences for all of humanity.

On a note closer to home, my own blown out Tea- bag Rep. refuses to debate his progressive opponent and will say nothing about voting yes twice on little Pauly's plan. Same immoral character only on a small time scale. He needs to be fired in this election.

Thom, Mike, and Ed, MSNBC and the rest of the truth in reporting gang most certainly will do some damage to Romney with the Sensata story. Let's hope it's enough to overcome the biggest lies money can buy being spewed by the rest of corp. mass media. By the way, has anyone noticed that ABC radio news sounds as slanted as Fox regarding the presidential race these days?

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bernicecabral 9 years 30 weeks ago
#33

It seems to me that the entire social structure of the country has been decimated thanks to guys like Romney. I have wondered for close to a half century why Americans never bite the bullet and do what needs to be done to stop the robbery and pillaging of our country. We will have to start a subculture that we can grow to eventually take the country back. The common citizen needs to take a page from the corporate book and give less and less to corporations until they dry up and blow away. Isn't that what corporations have done to citizens? First lower and lower wages, then no job at all for many.

This would not be an easy task. But if we look around, we can see this is all our own fault. Our worship of material things, admiration of the ultra wealthy and what they own, rewarding athletes and actors with insane sums of money for contributing little of real value while ordinary salt of the earth people are abused in the system and not even paid enough to keep body and soul together when they are employed. We can change it anytime we choose. But it will take work on ourselves as a society.

We can make a real concentrated effort to change our value system and implement it in our society. It won't happen overnight, but perhaps some of the Christian values so many give lip service to would actually produce a better society and eliminate the power of the Romney's of the world. We might even lose our position as the laughing stock of the world, if we ran our country with more equity.

Our intentions have been good. We have developed programs and safety nets to help each other. It's obvious the corporate wealthy think that money should be theirs and are out to relieve the country of every last farthing. We may have to just write it off and go our own way. Let's see what happens in this election. Then we need to start getting organized for the future.

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bobbler 9 years 30 weeks ago
#34

Sorry, but we can only vote green if we live in a red state.. As conservative as obama is, he still a very huge chunk better than the alternative.. We cannot afford to split the vote, and the green vote probably cost gore the election..

Mstaggerly,

I believe Obama can bring up Sensata, by framing it as the business model the GOP and romney supports (not framing it as though romney has power to stop this particular instance).. Make lemon-aid out of lemons..

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MontanaMuleGal 9 years 30 weeks ago
#35

First, the idea of winning through voting is a strategy of the past; we citizens can't trust the electronic computerized voting machines and those computers' tally of the vote. It's all manipulated, and any citizens who think their vote makes a difference in who becomes president is deluded.

Second, to register a protest vote, we are voting for Rocky Anderson of the Justice Party. We agree with virtually everything that he stands for. He is a write-in candidate in our state. He's on the ballot in other states. And there are states which do not allow write-in votes, so those voters are outta luck. Rocky Anderson gives us a choice where we don't have to vote for the lesser of two evils.

You can hear Rocky and Jill Stein join the "debate" on Amy Goodman's program. Both candidates are solidly in favor of policies which will benefit citizens, and not corporations.

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