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mathboy 7 years 11 weeks ago

I heard a musical comedian named Robin Roberts on the radio and looked her up on YouTube. It turns out she's recorded some of non-humorous pro-union songs. Here's one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hquyGWaR_U0&list=UUcbnsq6lTx88L084j5zFA-Q

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j.sea 7 years 11 weeks ago


Isn't the National Guard the "well regulated militia"...? Is that not close to what the founders imagined...?

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mathboy 7 years 11 weeks ago

Hmm. A trillion dollars of platinum wold weigh about 49,000 tons. (1,000,000,000,000 / $774 per ounce). Wikipedia says the Titanic's displacement was 52,310 tons, which is equivalent to the volume of the under-water part of the ship. It's depth (presumably at tare) is given as 19.7 m and its height as 53.3 m from keel to top of the funnels (smokestacks). It does seem as if that platinum would just about deepen the ship to the gunwale, meaning it would take on water and sink completely.

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mathboy 7 years 11 weeks ago

Well, I guess two wrongs make a right for Alex Jones. Since there isn't enough complaining about innocents killed by drones, we shouldn't do anything about domestic mass murder.

And Dianne Feinstein said her assault weapon ban would not be retroactive. I wish right-wingers would actually pay attention to details. If everything were reducible to black and white, Congress could meet one day a year.

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mathboy 7 years 11 weeks ago

If you want to bring in a Constitutional comparison, you can even sue a newspaper for libel despite the First Amendment. Letting people file suit against gun manufacturers should be a no-brainer. It doesn't mean they'll win, but they should be able to try.

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Sinister66 7 years 11 weeks ago

"And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; …"
Samuel Adams.

"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
George Washington

"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Thomas Jefferson

"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that … it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; … "
Thomas Jefferson

"The whole of the Bill (of Rights) is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals.... It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of." (Albert Gallatin of the New York Historical Society, October 7, 1789)

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." (James Madison, The Federalist Papers #46 at 243-244)

"...but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in discipline and use of arms, who stand ready to defend their rights..." (Alexander Hamilton speaking of standing armies in Federalist 29.)

Does this suggest the average citizen should be just as well armed and trained as a standing military?

Hopefully something here answers your question.

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mathboy 7 years 11 weeks ago

Sinister 66, would you mind editing out the useless hard returns? It's just rude.

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