No one is watching the watchers...

It's not like we needed any more proof, but documents released by Edward Snowden show that the NSA broke privacy rules thousands of times every year. According to an internal NSA audit obtained by the Washington Post, there were nearly 3,000 incidents of unauthorized collection, storage, access to, or distribution of legally protected communications between 2011 and 2012 alone.

Allegedly, most of the incidents were unintended. But, according to the Washington post, many were “failures of due diligence,” and others were outright violations of standard NSA operating procedure. Some of the most egregious violations included disobeying a court order, and using unauthorized data from more than 3,000 Americans and legal residents. A senior NSA official spoke to the Washington Post anonymously, and said, “We're a human-run agency operating in a complex environment with a number of different regulatory regimes, so at times, we find ourselves on the wrong side of the line.”

Since news of the NSA spying programs broke, Americans have been told repeatedly by NSA supporters that our privacy has not been violated – Not once! However, these documents prove that is simply not true. In addition, NSA officials deliberately left out many details of these violations in reports submitted to congressional intelligence committees, the Justice Department, and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

Last year, former NSA Director Keith Alexander said, “We don't hold data on U.S. citizens”, however newly-revealed NSA auditing guidelines don't require the agency to spell out if, when, or how many Americans were spied on. Without Edward Snowden, this information would have been kept from the public and even from the majority of our national leaders. This report shows that nobody is watching the watchers, and despite all claims to the contrary, the watchers are, in fact, watching us.

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Carson L 9 years 25 weeks ago
#1

On a side note, Maxim has officially ranked 'current or recently employed NSA officials' to be #1 on the list of 'By Far the Most Hilarious Type of Stranger to Accidently Run Into at a Bar and Buy A Drink For!" For a measley couple of bucks, one can get HOURS of hysterical life altering wows and omg's as the two of you whisk off into the vast non-finite realm of 'Stranger Than Fiction'! Giving up this coveted distinguishment while taking a shockingly distant 2nd place this year, phsychologists still insist, "Just keep couphing up those beers, Americans, you never know who you'll run into next!"

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ckrob 9 years 25 weeks ago
#2

Pretend I'm CIA and I make a mistake typing in a phone number. Out pops a massive data set on you. No one checks the original input and now you are subject to an amazing amount of 'attention' for an indefinite period. Coincidental events will confirm my suspicions that you and a few of your friends are up to no good with an excellent cover. Of course, CIA, FBI etc. don't make that kind of error do they?

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Loren Bliss 9 years 25 weeks ago
#3

In military intelligence work there are two important sorts of estimates. One is of enemy capabilities, the other is of enemy intentions. The two estimates combined enable analysts to determine if or when an enemy is likely to attack.

But is it legitimate to consider government in the United States the enemy of the people it presumably represents? Obviously, the Right has done so for many years. Now the Left is beginning to follow suit. Note the ever-more-brazen despotism of the Ruling Class -- the One Percent and all the federal, state and local politicians and bureaucrats it owns. Note our repeated victimization by government, how we of the 99 Percent are forced ever deeper into joblessness, poverty and wretchedness. The scope of the conflict -- the answer to the pivotal question of "which side are you on" -- becomes ever more obvious.

We know government now has the capability to spy on us 24/7, literally every minute of every day. We also know government is already employing this capability to collect unlimited data on every individual who resides within or passes through USian borders.

What then is government's intention? What will government do with all these dossiers it is creating on all of us? What are the indications?

The answer is to be found in three facts. One is that government at every level of the United States is busy proving itself the enemy of our (former) Constitutional rights. Two is that, in opposition to the Bill of Rights, there is no appreciable difference between the two major parties, their despotic singularity repeatedly proven by the succession of unanimous or near-unanimous votes by elected officials to repeal or nullify our Constitutional rights. Three is the governmental assault on freedom of information, proven by the zero-tolerance persecution of whistle-blowers, members of the working press and organized dissidents such as Occupy -- campaigns of suppression in which state and local governments function as surrogates of the federal government. Clearly therefore the intention of government is to use its capabilities against us, to ensure that We the People are reduced as quickly as possible to abject powerlessness and never again regain the initiative required to achieve liberty.

In this context, the only remaining question is when will the mass arrests begin.

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DAnneMarc 9 years 25 weeks ago
#4

Loren Bliss ~ Your analysis is very reasonable. TOO reasonable.

Your conclusion is both logical and disturbing
Quote Loren Bliss:In this context, the only remaining question is when will the mass arrests begin.

There is of course the fact of detention centers built around the country to house unknown numbers of people set up by FEMA. There are also stockpiles of caskets located in and near these centers that can fit three bodies per container. If you conclusion is right, one must ask the logical question what fate will befall these captives after being roundup. Does a government that resents "entitlements" really intend to house, feed, and cloth all these detainees indefinetely? Or perhaps, the "ultimate" solution might be a more reasonable expectation--MASS EXTERMINATION.

If you are going to go as far as mass arrests, my friend, why not shoot for the Full Monty? Also, since this is the direction you are obviously pointing to, may I ask what is the full purpose of this plan? There must be some rhyme to this reason that makes logical sense. So far to me it seems like a lot of evidence, conjecture, and speculation without a reasonable plot. Does the Georgia Guide Stone have anything to do with this? And finally, who is really behind this? What is the goal behind the end play?

PS You, I, and Palindromedary simply must hangout sometime.

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DAnneMarc 9 years 25 weeks ago
#5

On NSA unconstitutional spying: Fact 1) If any group of educated, competent and committed people are dead set on using a tactical nuclear weapon to blow up an American city they will succeed. Fact 2) Sacrificing our Constitution on the alter of fear and ignorance will not stop it. Fact 3) Staying true to our laws and traditions coupled with treating the rest of the world the way we want them to treat us will prevent it.

Bobsr 9 years 25 weeks ago
#6

This so-called NSA scandal is a total joke. I distinctly remember 60 Minutes having a show about 10 years ago with a retired phone company installer who said that the government was being connected to every phone line in the company he worked for. Why the mainstream media did not jump on this, including Thom Hartmann then and now, is beyond me. It almost looks like the lefties, with their phony complaining, are trying to help the righties impeach Obama. One of the biggest laughs I've had was the initial screaming by many Republicans when they first heard about this before it was pointed out to them that this program began under the Shrub and initially had zero safeguards. I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans used it to nail Eliot Spitzer.

The morons around where I live still think this is a program initiated by Obama.

Supposedly there has been data illegally gathered by this program recently. However there are no specifics as to what the data was and what was done with it. What BS!

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DAnneMarc 9 years 25 weeks ago
#7
Quote Bobsr:This so-called NSA scandal is a total joke. I distinctly remember 60 Minutes having a show about 10 years ago with a retired phone company installer who said that the government was being connected to every phone line in the company he worked for. Why the mainstream media did not jump on this, including Thom Hartmann then and now, is beyond me.

Bobsr ~ Thom, I , and everyone else I know did 'jump' on this issue some 12 years ago when the Patriot Act was released. Pull up some of his archive shows if you don't believe me. Long before anyone suspected that 9/11 was an inside job everyone knew that the Patriot Act was an attack on our Bill of Rights and an egregious misuse of power. I might ask, "Where were you?"

Where were you when the entire country rallied around a Constitutional Scholar and put him into the White House despite the fact that he was a black man? Did that not say something about where the entire country was 6 years ago? Who could blame people for exploding after the revelations of NSA spying? They intentionally elected Obama the orator and Constitutional Scholar to fix this mess and now learn they have been used, misled, and betrayed by Barack the betrayer. How can you remember one 60 Minutes show from 10 years ago and forget the rest of recent history?

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Loren Bliss 9 years 25 weeks ago
#8

Actually the roots of the total-surveillance state date back to the post-World-War II purges, when the One Percent ordered the government to mercilessly persecute not just the Communists, but all socialists of any sort and -- more to the point -- discredit all intellectuals by conditioning us to regard "intellectual" as synonymous with "subversive."

But the impetus to create such a state obviously dates back at least to the Bankers Plot of 1934, when the One Percent tried to impose fascism on the United States -- and failed only because of the patriotism of a Marine Corps general and intervention by the Communist Party and its allies. The conspirators' intent was to reduce the U.S. to a de facto colony that would have been the primary source of natural and financial resources for world conquest by the Nazis' Berlin-Rome-Tokyo Axis.

The surveillance apparatus itself is facilitated by certain military inventions of World War II, most notably the computer, the malevolent origins of which are now becoming obvious in its malevolent applications. No doubt the legions of war criminals absorbed by the government and the corporate sector after the war -- unreconstructed Nazis whose dream was turning the U.S. and its empire into the Fourth Reich -- greatly helped.

As to the long-range objective of the present-day program of total surveillance, it is obviously intended to facilitate capitalism's achievement of its ultimate and final form, which is Ayn Rand fascism. Thus the already undeniable reality of capitalist governance: absolute power and unlimited profit for the One Percent, total subjugation for all the rest of us. In other words, the imposition and perpetuation of the ultimate slave state, the construct by which the One Percent intends to survive the forthcoming triple apocalypse of terminal climate change, petroleum exhaustion and the resultant collapse of all petroleum-dependent technology.

And at this point, there is not a goddamn thing we can do to stop the process -- or even ameliorate it. As under the (fictional?) Borg, "resistance is futile" -- save as a doomed assertion of individual freedom.

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DAnneMarc 9 years 25 weeks ago
#9

Loren Bliss ~ Thank you! You've just given me enough food for thought to chew on for a month. Very disturbing! Very sobering! Everything you say makes perfect sense. There is only one link in the chain--namely the link between the stock market crash, the Great Depression, and the advance of Nazism--that is new to me. (However, since Banks financed the Nazi's and caused the Depression that link is no giant leap for mankind in my mind.)

My only issue with your theory is that I don't believe such a structure would last very long; or, ever be stable. It does look sound on paper; but, it believe in practice it will not be practical. However, if you're environmental predictions are accurate--and from my own personal studies; as well as, learning about the research and theories by Immanuel Velikovsky and others--they are; and, if so, then you have an air tight argument.

I personally thank you for sharing! I will prepare accordingly. I hope everyone else on this blog was listening and will heed your insight. We are all in debt to you! You've connected far more dots than I ever realized existed.

Forgive me if I return to the current issues at hand like I learned nothing tonight. After all, like you said, "...there is not a goddamn thing we can do to stop the process--or even ameliorate it." Allow me my final moments of basking in the glow of a hallucinatory hope. After all, what else you gonna do? Why not make hay while the sun shines? I'm not the sort that can go down without a fight, no matter how "futile" it is. Wherever there is life, there is hope! Wherever there is death, there is peace!

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Flopot 9 years 25 weeks ago
#10

Snowden is the real deal 'cause he had the evidence - so sayeth another NSA whistle blower...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6m1XbWOfVk

[Edit: removed second link about a different issue.]

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sound n light 9 years 25 weeks ago
#11

I DO HAVE THE ANSWER

Since all of our electronic info is being collected by the NSA, and we currently pay monthly to have this service performed on us, it would be way more consititutional if the NSA bought me a phone and laptop and then provided my monthly user fees for the use of these products. This way there would be no question to the rights of the NSA to look at what I am looking at, to see who I called, they would own the phone and I would just be the guy using it.

As it stands now we each spend bewteen $1,000-3,000 a year for the NSA to spy on us. If we are being spied on and I have to pay to allow this to happen, we have a problem and this problem has criminal intentions all over it and no one to arrest the policy makers or even hold them in check. Its not just the NSA. Its all unchecked spy groups which operate with our tax dollars.

Gator Girl 9 years 25 weeks ago
#12

Add to that the fact that our local "police departments" are looking just like the combat teams in Iraq and Afghanistan - same uniforms (different colors), same equipment/weapons and the mis-use of the power they hold.

It used to be that a SWAT team was only called out for the most serious, dangerous or crimes where intervention was time-sensitive. Now SWAT teams go out for minor "alledged" reports of someone who MAY be growing pot, a domestic call, and the ordinary everyday calls that do not require the massive, expensive over-kill of use and abuse that results

More and more police departments are spending massive amounts of tax-payer dollars on armored vehicles, .50 caliber rifles and other assault weapons, body armor and equipment meant for military invasions. But these are the current para-military forces in small town America all over the country - try Gilberton, PA for an example of this attitude gone wrong - and this is one answer to being able to launch an all-out assault AGAINST ordinary citizens whose tax dollars have PAID FOR all of that tactical gear/equuipment. One way to by-pass the Possee Commitasse law maybe?

Make no mistake, i AM a staunch defender of the 2nd amendment and, no, I am not a member of the NRA nor am I a Republican. I am a white, female senior who believes the right of the citizenry to defend themselves in their own homes. Do I think we could hold off the US forces if they chose to march against us? Of course not. But, I do believe that our safety is OUR responsibility because of the above mis-use of build-up and force happening by our local departments who have sworn to PROTECT us - NOT invade us - which is NOT happening.

Anyone who does not believe that NSA et al are using domestic information to compile information on all of America's citizens is foolish. Instead of using the information that Eric Snowden to positively protect the RIGHTS (I know - what's that, these days) of all citizens and NOT store and use them for nepharious purposes. President Obama asks WHY didn't Eric Snowden go through "normal channels" to report what he had found? Really? Do you know what would have happened to him had he tried to do so? First of all the information which he was able to gather would NEVER have been seen by the public and, most likely, Eric Snowden may NEVER have been seen again, too.

Wake up people and start writing, emailing, calling and talking to all of your Senators and Representatives, the newspapers, blogs, the Whitehouse, the President and Vice-President - EVERYONE - to take back the rights which were guaranteed us in our Constitution and which we have NOT authorized to be walked all over. Write and request with a Freedom of Iniformation request for any/all information collected on you. They will send you a standard denial after which you should file an appeal and continue to do so. If they were innundated with millions of requests and the people who are supposed to serve you were also swamped with mail, phone calls, emails and visits - maybe, just maybe, we would begin to see some action. If we roll over and give up our rights we do not deserve those rights - it is your place to start the ball rolling to PROTECT YOURSELF NOW!!

Lethargy = mass arrests, etc as Loren Bliss states. I do not think this makes us "conspiracy theorists" but rather, true patriotic citizens who are doing our best to speak out and demand that the rights taken away by the Patriot Act, Homeland Security, NSA and our President be reinstated NOW and that we once again - on both sides - DEMAND that our Constitution be utilized FOR us instead of AGAINST us.

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DAnneMarc 9 years 24 weeks ago
#13

Gator Girl ~ Go on Gator Girl! Thanks for that great advice. Demand to see your own dossier. I love it. Let's do it.

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DAnneMarc 9 years 24 weeks ago
#14

Flopot ~ Thanks for the Russ Tice interview. Anyone who thinks Snowden behaved cowardly should watch that.

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Palindromedary 9 years 24 weeks ago
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Flopot: Yes, I had seen this video before and commented on it on Thomhartmann blog. Thank you for the link because I thought it was essential to watch again. Abby Martin on Breaking the Set really does help to expose things we all need to know. Everyone should listen to what Russ Tice has said. Because the government you think is in control...isn't. His guess as to who is only goes so far as to say "the upper echelon of the intelligence community". And he also said that it appeared to most employees of the NSA that when Bush and Cheney were in office...it was Cheney that appeared to be bossing everyone around. And while Cheney was part of the Military Industrial Complex...Haliburton...I would suspect that there is a cabal of very powerful people of that caliber who are acting as the puppet masters behind the intelligence agencies. They don't play fair...they spy on...blackmail...set people up as patsies...and even murder people that won't play ball. The illusion that we have a government of and by the people is contrived propaganda. They more than likely even control President Obama..and everyone else in those top government positions. I wonder what they have on him/them? Even if they had nothing on them deemed worthy of blackmail...they are a real threat to the lives of those (and their families) that are being controlled.

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Palindromedary 9 years 24 weeks ago
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What do you think would happen to a German citizen, during the Nazi regime, if he/she went through some Nazi channel to report on the death camps? They'd send him/her to one! Not that I believe we have death camps, yet, but I sure wouldn't trust any channels the government set up, if I were a whistle-blower. It's funny, I remember when the company I worked for, many years ago, got really paranoid about accounting practices being scrutinized by the government and a number of whistle-blowers had ratted on their companies for having two sets of accounting books. My company sent email around to it's employees that they had set up a special department that promised to act on any hint of impropriety on the part of anyone else in the company. "Come to them first"..they said. I don't know of anyone dumb enough to fall for that garbage.

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SteveS 9 years 24 weeks ago
#17

It's amazing: Nearly everything that the administration and NSA say about the surveillance program is quickly shown to be a lie. One of the best articles on this flimflam is Trevor Timm's "A Guide to the Deceptions, Misinformation, and Word Games Officials Use to Mislead the Public About NSA Surveillance" published 14 August 2013 on Electronic Frontier Foundation's website. The rapidity with which government statements have been immediately debunked by investigative journalists would be amusing if the lies didn't represent serious breaches of trust with the American people.

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DAnneMarc 9 years 24 weeks ago
#18

That Tice interview had some interesting stuff. They even monitor and read snail mail. How outlandishly illegal? How many accomplices have they coerced into breaking the law? Now what forms of communication left are still private, verbal (to some degree), hand signals, secret codes, body language, light flashes; and, of course, smoke signals. Of course a secret code that is then inturn encrypted with secret algorithms should be more than enough to give the intelligence community fits just long enough to launch any "scheme" any group wants. If you really wanted to send them scrambling in different directions at the same time, send many such messages at once from and to multiple sources and destinations. Make only one the real one and the rest birthday cards. Best of all, you could send it using any means you wish with total impunity. Strange how reality follows fiction. I believe it was Scotty from Star Trek who said, "The more complicated the Technology, the easier it is to gum up the works."

If our corrupt Government has taught me anything it is that the best place to hid something is in plain site of everyone.

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bobcox 9 years 24 weeks ago
#19

With all the abuse of power demonstrated for so many years by J. Edgar Hoover, I wonder at how soft headed any administration is to allow the power of NSA to exist. If they can, they will! Furthermore they will always claim it is necessary to PROTECT us.

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Flopot 9 years 24 weeks ago
#20

Yes, the Tice interview is mindblowing.

An interesting aside (perhaps) is a friend of mine once jokingly suggested that when Obama sat down at the Presidential desk for the first time he was presented with a key frame from the Zapruder film. The subtext of this chilling joke, of course, is that Obama better follow orders. Not so far fetched now if you believe Tice and his information about the NSA and a certain young senator.

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Kend 9 years 24 weeks ago
#21

this is a great time to start up a cell company that promises not to sell out to advertisers, government or anything else . All the paranoid poeple who don't want to be spied on could pay a little more to get a secured phone

I personally have no problem with any of this I have nothing to hide. As long as it is just the Government doing it. To tell you the truth it makes me feel safer.

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DAnneMarc 9 years 24 weeks ago
#22

Flopot ~ Mindblowing, indeed! That so called, "joke" of your friends is precisely why I believe Zapruder was paid by the killers to film the assassination. They wanted clear visible proof of how they can kill anyone they want in public with complete impunity to scare future leaders into obedience.

His panning was way too smooth for someone standing next to a shotgun blast; and, that is exactly where he was. People across the street instinctually dove for the ground. Zapruder--whose first name was "Abraham", go figure--was either deaf or was wearing ear plugs. Either way, unless he was deaf, wearing earplugs still makes him culpable. Since I saw him answering questions asked by interviewers on television news once he obviously isn't deaf--therefore he is culpable.

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DAnneMarc 9 years 24 weeks ago
#23

Kend ~ Your naivete is only matched by your ignorance and indifference. First no communication entity can resist the demands of the NSA. All have tried and were threatened with losing their FCC license and criminal charges. Your new cell phone company could never exist.

Secondly, your assertion that you have nothing to hide shows that you are assuming that the NSA is interested in prosecuting crime and keeping the nation safe. Perhaps you aren't so naive that you don't believe they will blackmail you. Perhaps you are so squeaky clean and faithful that there is nothing a blackmailer can do to you. If so, congratulations! You truly are an exceptional human being. Nevertheless, can you say the same about your wife, your children, your sisters, brothers, in laws, friends, or business associates. There is more than one way to skin a rat you know.

Also, you have to remember this isn't audio tape this data is being stored on this is digital meta data. All digital communications. I don't know how digital savvy you are; however, let me assure you that it is very, very easy to manipulate anything digital. Anything you write, type or say can be augmented to suit the needs of any would be blackmailer or prosecutor who might want to have justifiable cause to have their way with you, your family or anyone else you know to achieve their ends. Audio tape can be manipulated as well but not as easily. Such tampering with analogue media is usually detectable but it is not with digital media.

The situation at hand does not make you safe no matter how Angelic of a life you lead. That is why the Bill of Rights exists in the first place, to make this form of intimidation, threat, and prosecution illegal and impossible. The fact of the matter is that no manner of increased security is worth the price of sacrificing the security of every member of society to a totalitarian state. You will regret your decision as well as anyone else who tolerates this illegal nonsense. It is only a matter of time before you get your feet stuck in this entangled web of espionage. No one is exempt from this threat; and, that includes someone living in Canada--especially if they do business in the United States.

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Flopot 9 years 24 weeks ago
#24

@Kend

It is all about control and it is certainly NOT just about the government. Firstly, with complete access to all your communications (business and private) and information (including political views, your associates, your financial and economic data) there will always be something that you think should be private. And this can be used as leverage against you. It is not about fighting terrorism - it is about fighting dissent and, perhaps, stealing any wealth you might have.

Secondly, by government you do of course mean the corporate run government. Why do you think the government is spending so much taxpayers money propping up banks; starting wars for oil; arranging coups; and spying on her people? Tis all for the corporations. The surrveilance state and the DHS police state is all about preventing opposition to the corporate dictatorship. Anyway don't take my word for it - Noam Chomsky has read the primary sources, e.g. details of meetings between politicans and corporate representatives hoping to arrange a coup here and a coup there in order to open markets etc...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-World-Works-Noam-Chomsky/dp/0241145384

You've got nothing to hide. Hah. You are only kidding yourself.

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Kend 9 years 24 weeks ago
#25

Who are we kidding nothing is private any more. Hackers can get anything they want. I do see your point flopot and Danne. What is next is the question.

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DAnneMarc 9 years 24 weeks ago
#26

Kend ~ Hackers work ourside the system and against the law. We can deal with that affront to privacy because there is a plethrora of recourse. The system invading privacy is the question. There is no recourse. We are prostate before the alter of the status quo. This is what we oppose.

What is next is to overturn this espionage community. If you are not paying attention that almost happened yesterday:

Quote Senator Allen Grayson:Recently, the U.S. House of Representatives came very close to ending the National Security Agency's unconstitutional and illegal surveillance of every American. An amendment to do just that fell a few votes short.

The "intelligence community" pulled out all the stops to defeat this amendment. Members of Congress were told that if we did not allow the military to collect enormous quantities of data on every single American citizen, the next "9/11" would be on our conscience. NSA General Keith Alexander held four hours of secret briefings on the Hill, just before the vote. Republicans Michele Bachmann and Tom Cotton treated the amendment as though it were the End of Days. Bush-era counterterrorism officials who failed to prevent the 9/11 attacks swore that domestic spying is necessary to prevent new 9/11 attacks. (In the world of counterterrorism, apparently, failure makes you an expert.) Even the White House, sadly, weighed in in favor of continued pervasive domestic surveillance.

Despite this, 111 Democrats -- a majority of all the Democrats in the House -- joined 94 Republicans and voted to end domestic spying. That's 205 votes against the secret surveillance state. Among the votes against surveillance was Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, the original author of the Patriot Act, and highly respected among right-wing Republicans on national security issues. Even some of the Members who voted wrong on this amendment clearly were with us in spirit, but they were cowed by the fear of being blamed for some hypothetical future terrorist attack.

This large number of House Members voting against the NSA was a stunning rebuke to the "intelligence community". This was the first vote on this issue, but not the last. To win, we need just 11 more House Members with the courage to stand up for our rights.

The days of illegal espionage are running out. We simply must keep the pressure on in order to make it so.

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Palindromedary 9 years 24 weeks ago
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Quote Senator Alan Grayson: if we did not allow the military to collect enormous quantities of data on every single American citizen, the next "9/11" would be on our conscience.

And I'm sure those insider traitors who perpetrated the first 9/11 would have no problem perpetrating yet another to keep us all very afraid and subservient to their dictates.
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Here is what looks like an insider whistleblower, albeit anonymous, who seems to know an awful lot about how various government organizations spy on us.

Quote message left at Cryptome.org--Proton, Clearwater and Lexis-Nexis:
Arresting someone to search them without needing consent or court order is not an unheard of means to get a Person of Interests selectors into CLEARWATER. Something laying openly on your desk? A cell-phone snap and email to the program office. How about those utility bills you throw away without shredding? If you're a Person of Interest, somebody is walking away with your trash.
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Watching a OWS protester enter a number into their cell phone is perfectly legal without consent or a warrant and once I get that number, we'll look at that calling network, find the node that is you, and walk that back to that moment we shared under the chestnut tree.
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All members of the Intelligence Community have access to LEXIS-NEXIS. LEXIS-NEXIS contains biographic information on most Americans having a driver or occupational license. Your state sells the contents of its drivers license database to companies like LEXIS-NEXIS for a profit. They can do this since that information is considered in the public domain---driving is a privilege and if you don't want to be in database then don't get a drivers license.
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So, a Special Agent or analyst simply runs the selectors in PROTON and CLEARWATER, then runs those names or other biographic/vital information again in LEXIS-NEXIS, all that data related to the TARGET is exported in Analyst Notebook format, those files are imported into the Analyst Notebook application and...viola!...a relatively complete social network and biographics of the TARGET. That could be you of course.
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By Supreme Court decision and other judicial misadventures, LEXIS-NEXIS contains public information and you do not have an expectation of privacy. There is no need for Probable Cause or Reasonable Suspicion because this data is, by judicial opinion, public. Something to think about next time you're at the DMV. Citizens are queried regularly in LEXIS-NEXIS. CLEARWATER and PROTON provides network association and the selectors. A subpoena, NSL or search warrant to the telecommunications provider of that selector gives us names and locations. LEXIS-NEXIS provides Pattern of Life, geolocation and personalia. I was able to see my past three residential addresses, past telephone numbers and identifying information about my previous automobile. LEXIS-NEXIS is coupled to Automatic License Plate Recognition Systems (ALPRS) as well. Who you are, where you were and where you are.
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As stated earlier, CLEARWATER is a SECRET/NOFORN version of PROTON. The DEA red herring called DICE reportedly contained NSA collection which rules-out CLEARWATER (a S//NF system) and highlights PROTON (a TS//SI system) as the source of DICE intelligence.

I'm providing information on both since the government is no longer under constitutional restraint and is illegitimate. Parallel Construction. You fuckers. A cornerstone of American law and western culture sacrificed for the security of the Elites.

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Hey, Anyone looking for a Sigint Analyst's job? Join the 71,000 others in over 40 other countries. Love to spy on people? Here's your chance...

Read the job opportunity ad at the bottom of this message.
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http://cryptome.org/2013/08/proton-clearwater-lexis-nexis.htm

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Palindromedary 9 years 24 weeks ago
#28

It may not be merely recyclable bottles and plastic these people, who go through our trash every week the day before trash day, are after. They very well could be looking for personal data. Maybe they are identity thieves who are looking for a way to steal your money...or maybe they are lowly grunts selling information to the government who may have you on their list as a "selector".

I have watched these people scavenge through my recyclable container every week and they often seemed very scrutinizing over what did not look like bottles or plastic. I can watch them with my surveillance cameras.

What can you do?! Well one thing I always do is rip off my name and address from all that junk mail and if I have any really sensitive data I shred it and maybe, sometimes, take that shredded paper and run it through a blender with water. This is what I've seen them do in the Pentagon, many years ago when I periodically had to work there.

Someone, if they are very patient and persistent may be able to put the jigsaw pieces together but not if they are a soggy mess turned to pulp. The Pentagon even used crosscut shredders and still they used the blenders.

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Palindromedary 9 years 24 weeks ago
#29

The lie detector has been ruled inadmissible in court because it is known that it is very unreliable. It has a high rate of false positives...ie: it indicates your are lying when you are not. The Obama Administration, because it is having problems keeping their secrets from leaking out through whistle blowers like Snowden, etal, is opening up a Pandora's box of it's own criminal behavior by not only forcing people to take the lie detector tests but have even accused people who have passed the tests as people who knew how to beat the lie detector tests. Some lie detector professionals have for over 30 years gone on TV, written books, even sold their services on how to beat the lie detectors...largely because they knew lie detectors were often wrong yet the law enforcement people persist in trying to use them to convict people. Some of these lie detector professionals, who have made their secrets public, have been prosecuted by the Obama administration. Freedom of speech is prosecutable!

"The undercover stings are being cited as the latest examples of the Obama administration’s emphasis on rooting out “insider threats,” a catchall phrase meant to describe employees who might become spies, leak to the news media, commit crimes or become corrupted in some way." **

Isn't it odd how the administration stretches the meaning of "war on terrorism", using the scare tactic of something like 9/11, to justify using voodoo machines to go after people who are not "terrorists" in the original sense of the term? I think they call it "creep factor" or "mission creep"...like after we invaded Afghanistan they invaded a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 or WMDs.

And if you pass the tests...they accuse you of using countermeasures in order to beat the tests. It's almost as if we are back in the dark ages and Torquemada is binding your hands and feet together with weights and throwing you into the pond. If you drown then you were obviously guilty of witchcraft...if by some oddity...you managed to survive then you were using witchcraft and you would then be burned at the stake. We have a government run by idiots who are not much different than Torquemada. But one big difference is that Torquemada didn't care who knew what he was doing...our government's doesn't want their evil criminal deeds to be known by anyone. It won't be long till our local governments will be using all that justification in going after the really bad terrorists...you know the ones with unpaid parking tickets..or, heaven forbid, unpaid bills....really bad people...terrorists for sure! They'll be sending the drones with Hellfire missiles over next.

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http://cryptome.org/2013/08/feds-fear-polygraph-voodoo.pdf

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Flopot 9 years 24 weeks ago
#30

Do you really want these people having unrestricted access to all your data and communictions? Remember it is not like Sesame Street's friendly government figure "in your neighbo(u)rhood". These guys are literally insane...

"Corporations which in some cases seem to be more powerful than governments are also reported to suffer from the same malaise. We are told that People like Thom Hartmann have suggested that to be the head of a fortune 1000 corporation, one must be a sociopath. A researcher on corporate psychopaths puts the numbers between three and 12 percent of managers’15. The book ‘Snakes in Suits’ by the psychologist Robert Hare is about psychopaths in the world of corporations."

Remember corporations are now the government. Here's the full article.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/military-madness-has-our-species-become-ins...

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DAnneMarc 9 years 24 weeks ago
#31

Flopot ~ A very interesting and disturbing article. As a west coast dweller I find one of the referenced articles even more disturbing:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/20/1092637/-Fukushima-Reactor-4-In-Danger-Of-Making-Northern-Hemisphere-Uninhabitable#

Quote Article:8:54 AM PT: Regarding the title of this diary, I still believe it is correct. Clearly the west coast of the USA is in danger of becoming uninhabitable as Arnie Gundersen says one should have an evacuation plan if Reactor #4 collapses. And if this thing starts burning for months sending massive amounts of radioactive poison into the atmosphere who knows what can become uninhabitable.

Does anyone else have any data on Fukushima Reactor #4 and its condition? This is the first I've heard about this problem; and, if these conclusions are accurate, then this Reactor is more concern than anything else we've been talking about. How can this story possibly be ignored by the news?

Personally however, I think this is an exaggeration. How could particles of any size get through the massive expanse of the humidity filter of the Pacific Ocean? Of course, it won't do Japan or our seafood supply any good. Just what we need, another Biblical prophecy fulfilled. Just when I was considering retirement in Hawaii.

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Palindromedary 9 years 24 weeks ago
#32
Quote the 2011 article:The meltdown at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant released several different types of radioactive particles, but scientist are most interested in tracking a particularly persistent radioactive particle known as cesium-137. This chemical has a half-life of 30 years — in other words, it takes about three decades for the particle’s radioactivity to fall by half. If ingested, cesium-137 accumulates in living tissue, and it can travel up the food chain if one animal consumes a plant or animal that ingested contaminated particles.

In some cases, contaminated seawater would reach the western coast of the United States in as little as five years.

(ie: 2016)

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/modeling-radioactivity-spread-seawate...

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They are thinking about creating barriers to stem the flow of water by creating frozen underground dams. They sink a bunch of pipes in the ground and pump special fluids through the pipes to freeze the underground water flows creating dams that block the flow of contaminated water.

Quote the 2013 article:Multiple efforts by plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Company to halt the daily flow of 300 tons—nearly 72,000 gallons—of radioactive water from the plant into the ocean have failed.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2013/08/130819-japan-ice-...
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It seems to me that they should be able to send boats out across the ocean to monitor radioactivity in sea weed. They could even have all of the ships traversing those waters already take samples. Maybe they are already doing something like this. But...would they tell us their results?

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DAnneMarc 9 years 24 weeks ago
#33

Palindromedary ~ What a f***ing disaster. In this case, one must assume no news is bad news. Why cover up good news? I never thought I would see the day when seafood would become bad for your health. Flopot's article was right, this world is being run by psycopaths. Teddy bears help us!

Thanks for the articles and links.

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Palindromedary 9 years 24 weeks ago
#34

DAnneMarc: "Teddy Bears help us!" But not just any Teddy Bear...only the good ones will help us. The bad ones are psychopaths too.

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David Abbot 9 years 22 weeks ago
#35

Actually, Thom, the watchers are watching each other. As sociopaths, they are incapable of trusting or being trustworthy, and so they spy on each other so they can blackmail each other. This is one of the "unfortunate" flaws in their plan for world dominance: they are incapable of true cooperation. They are capable of pretending to cooperate with each other in their drive to turn 99% of humanity into slaves, but doing so requires so many peoples' cooperation that statistically speaking it is a given that many key players will turn against them, such as Snowden and Manning, Wikileaks, and so on.

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