Quote hartmann:He[Obama] said that the United States “will not tolerate the development or use of weapons of mass destruction” by Iran, and that our nation “is prepared to use all elements of our power, including military force, to secure our core interests in the region.” And, President Obama vowed that the U.S. “will ensure the free flow of energy from that region to the world.”

So when will the US give up it's weapons of mass destruction? Not only do we have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the world many times over...but we also still have bunkers full of chemical weapons..some of which are leaking.

And using "military force, to secure our interests"...what if someone used armed force to secure his interests in what his neighbor, or a bank, had? That would be considered "armed" robbery! And actually killing his neighbor and family, or bank employees, would be called murder! The damn US acts like it owns the whole world...that those natural resources belong to the US!

The true danger of what the Government is doing is losing its credibility in the eyes of the world and it's own citizens. No Government that acts in its own interest only, or even in the interest of a select few, is going to endure for very long. The Government puts itself and the entire country at risk every time it acts maliciously, irresponsibly, and inconsistently. No man is an island and no Government is omnipotent. There comes a time when every entity must rely on external and internal support to survive. The US Government is burning every bridge that it ever managed to build, is breaking every law that it ever managed to write, and is losing every patriotic follower that it ever managed to inspired. At this rate it is only a matter of time before it collapses from its own weight on it's own footprint from the sway of a strong wave, or the gust of a mighty wind.

Could it be the real secret of the Obama Regime is it has discovered how to do reanimations and has thus clandestinely reanimated Josef Goebbels -- all-time master of the Big Lie and oratorical doublethink -- to be its chief speechwriter?

Or did they find somebody to channel him? Or have they cloned him, perhaps in African-American disguise?

In any case it seems the president comes ever closer to giving the real-world variant of that speech fictionally attributed to Hitler at the old League of Nations: "I vant peace...a piece of France, a piece of Poland, a piece of Russia..."

And as to whether "the use of chemical weapons has no place in the 21st Century," I guess that excludes the United States itself, where the socioeconomic realities are more like those of 19th Century slave plantations or the Ku Klux South, with the aristocracy using every means possible to suppress dissent.

My feelings are hurt a little. Obama will go to war to make sure MiddleEast gets its oil gets to the world but he won't let the 63th pipeline cross the US / Canadian border. I am so confused. The United States gets almost half it's oil from Canada and about 15 % from the Middle East. Why are our countries over there. It's time to become North America energy independent. No more body bags, enough already.

First, there was George Orwell's book "1984" with "Big Brother"
And for a few years now there has been Cory Doctorow's "Little Brother".

I learned of this book as a recommendation from Peiter 'Mudge' Zatko in his presentation at Defcon 21. Popularly known by fellow hackers as 'Mudge', he shocked them all by going to work within the government. He knew Julian Assange before and during the early formation of Wikileaks. He was obviously very distraught over the suicide death of Aaron Swartz and Mudge got pretty choked up during the lecture as he mentioned Aaron's name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSR-b9yuTbM

Quote Bunnie Huang, author of HACKING THE XBOX:
Little Brother is a scarily realistic adventure about how homeland security technology could be abused to wrongfully imprison innocent Americans. A teenage hacker turned hero pits himself against the government to fight for his basic freedoms. This book is action packed with tales of courage, technology, and demonstrations of digital disobedience as the technophile's civil protest."

I think that Cory Doctorow would love it if you bought his book but at least wants you to download his book for free without DRM..in fact, Cory Doctorow seems to hate the DRM idea and has refused to publish under a contract that requires DRM and he only publishes under the Creative Common License.

http://craphound.com/littlebrother/download/

Cory Doctorow's newest sequel to "Little Brother" is "Homeland".

http://craphound.com/homeland/Cory_Doctorow_-_Homeland.pdf

agenda 21 http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-true-story-of-the-bilderberg-group-and-...

This would of course be the same 10 years war for oil that Jimmy Carter warned America about over 30 years ago. But then the Reagan administration, after a treasonous manipulation of the hostage crisis for the purpose of election won the election, then they promptly removed the symbolic solar panels from the White House.. And reversed Jimmy Carter's attempt to take America down a green path. Since then America has been much more controlled by big money, whether Democrat or Republican. And big money is not interested in green, hence war.

One aspect of the Syria rebellion that seems to be ignored is - why has the UN failed to respond in the two years of this bloodshed? Sure, they finally began to show an interest when chemicals were used, but why have they balked?

It appears that the world was waiting for the U S to finally DO SOMETHING because no one else would. So, when Obama steps up, all of a sudden he's a warmonger. Of course, he's going to threaten the users of chemical weapons and he explained why - because the world powers should not put up with a government gassing its own people. If anyone objects to that, I'd like to know why.

Btw, using a threat of military intervention to get a government to act differently is certainly nothing new. Perhaps if people cannot understand this, they better review world history.

Palin, the oil spill north of Edmonton was minor at best. I live here, it didnt even make the news here. We have been sending energy down there through pipelines for 60 years. With almost no problems At all. Keystone is not going through or over any aquifers. That has been changed.

Keystone would just replace the oil they are getting from Venezuela that is shipped there through the Gulf of Mexico. It would be much safer.

I have know idea what tax breaks you are talking about that oil companies are getting. Maybe because most of the Oil Companies up here are American owned they get some breaks down there.

Oh ya. By the way there are a lot of pipelines from Alaska running through Canada.

This has nothing to do with safety. All of he States have aproved it. This is political And that is just stupid.

mike-c: The war in Syria is a proxy war against the Assad regime. The US, Saudi Arabia, Britain, and others are using proxy outside forces to battle the Assad regime. They want you to believe that it is a rebellion of the Syrian people against Assad. But most of the fighters are from outside of Syria. Since Assad is friendly with Russia and Iran and controls whether a pipe line goes through... that would adversely affect Iran. The US, and the others, have instigated and fomented instability in Syria to make it look like a civil war. But it's not...it's a proxy war by outsiders.

The CIA used to do all of this fomenting internal instability, buying elections, assassinating leaders. But now they have institutions with liberal sounding names like International Center for Non-Violent Conflict (ICNC) and Freedom House (etal) to do the internal destabilization by sending in groups of people to inspire and train the people on how to create instability.

That leads to government crack downs, which leads to violence. Then, the covert backers (like the US) send in weapons and mercenaries to escalate the conflict under the guise of helping the "freedom fighters" that they want you to believe are the people of Syria.

During the cold war...all these proxy wars were called Low Intensity Conflict (LIC). The big boys (Russia and the US) fought each other using proxies (although they actually sent our troops over to lead the destruction) instead of going all out nuclear war. They tried to wear each other down. The capitalist war mongers loved it because they all made lots of money off the deaths of millions of people.

The US won the wear down with the Soviet Union and then found themselves lacking an enemy and no excuse to continue making lots of money from killing people. They needed a new enemy that would frighten the tax payers out of their money again. So they tried the drug wars..but after we all became privy as to who the real drug lords were (banksters and congress people and Presidents), that kind of dissipated. It just didn't have enough scare tactic to make the people very afraid anymore. They needed a new boogeyman...something that would really scare them out of their liberties and freedoms...and money.

Now, it is "terrorism" by the "evil Muslims" that hijack planes that crash them into tall buildings. Or, at least, that was the false flag operation the Neocons used. (The "hijackers" were patsies and the airliners were electronically hijacked and guided to hit their targets which had been planted with demolition explosives.)

Now, the Al Qaeda terrorists are our friends and used as proxy fighters killing lots of people, including Christians (Maaloula, Syria and elsewhere in Syria). Of course, those new friends are being heavily armed with chemical weapons by the west to be used as a false flag to blame Assad in order to trigger an attack from the US. And you can bet that Al Qaeda will one day turn right around, with all those Weapons of Mass Destruction, use them against the west as they did after the Afghanistan-Russian war. They may get Assad to give up his chemical weapons but who will root out all those chemical weapons that Al Qaeda has hidden away?

If the western capitalist pig war mongers push hard enough, they may get their jollies once again by getting their old enemy back and we can all, once again, start worrying about world nuclear annihilation again. The capitalist pigs would no longer have to create a false flag...a new Pearl Harbor...as was 9/11... to frighten the people into submission. We'll all be singing the "Duck and Cover" song and having nightmares of mushroom clouds....real ones this time.

Lloyd Lutterman: I agree! The US and it's partners like Saudi Arabia. It doesn't take much to make chemical or biological weapons of mass destruction. Nukes are more difficult but not impossible. We need to get Israel to get rid of all their WMD...like nukes and white phosphorus (like they used against the Palestinians) and get rid of the other chemical weapons they have. And the US needs to do the same. How can it take the high ground when they also have these things?

Palindromedary - even if the fighting is another proxy war, where has the UN been? Considering the fact that the US has adversaries in the UN, some country, by now, should have raised an issue for intervention in this long-going conflict. There has been enough anti-US sentiment in the UN before (with resulting bickering) to make me think the US hasn't totally silenced opposition to any international connivances that our government does. The deafening silence by the UN on Syria makes me wonder if some hidden agenda (as you put forth) is now being accepted worldwide and, if so, the UN has become a puppet of US power. Perhaps, all of those millions of US dollars given out to foreign countries for whatever purpose is now paying off?

mike-c: The UN was never supposed to be used for fighting proxy wars on behalf of a hegemonic country (eg: the U.S.) trying to illegally oust foreign heads of state. That certainly was what the US did in Iraq (and other countries as well) and that's what they are trying to do in Syria. Overthrowing countries leaders is not part of the original UN charter. Most of those within the UN that oppose the US are quite right to do so. For the UN to have gotten involved in what was obviously an attempt by the US, Britain, Israel, and Saudi Arabia to oust the Assad regime for political reasons, or for yet another pipeline, would have been totally against what the UN stands for.

If it had really been the case of a murderous regime killing it's people just for the fun of it then the UN would be justified in taking action against that murderous regime to prevent even more murders of civilians. Yes, the Assad regime has murdered many of it's civilians (but many have also been murdered by the rebels) but it was in defense against being attacked by elements that wanted to oust it. And those elements were rallied and trained to foment internal dissent by outside forces...like the US.

Same thing happened in Iran when Mossadegh was popularly chosen as their leader but wouldn't play ball with western powers.

What would happen in the US if the people formed massive demonstrations in all cities in the US? Things would escalate as the President sent out police and military to put down the demonstrations. Violence would happen on both fronts and many people would be hurt or killed. Other countries viewing this might have the same opinion of the Obama Regime as US politicians have of the Assad Regime.

I support our President entirely on all he stated in this address. He's very smart and knows what he's doing. But, of course I'll probably get several 'Haters' to blab some vile epitaph about MY statement... who never even voted, or worse, voted for the guy who didn't even WANT to be preisdent.

Palindromedary ~ Well said. I agree with it all.

dxisdsn ~ I voted twice for Barack. I am offended and repulsed by your use of the word 'haters'. That is nothing more than race baiting on the lowest common denominator and does not deserve a response.

However, I will offer this. If you really think the people on this forum attack President Obama because of the color of his skin than it is you who have racial issues. You also haven't been reading anything that has been said. Here the resentment of this Administrations is based solely on policy not race, religion, class, sex, party, or any other trivial nonsense. If this President wants to quack like a Despot, we will call him a Despot. The color of his skin does not make him immune to the consequences of his actions.

If you can refute anything Palindromedary has just said I look forward to reading it.

Palindromedary ~ Thanks for that link. Most disturbing how our Commander and Chief is so loose with the truth. By the way, my favorite most blatant lie was quote number 17.

Fire Dog Lake

Quote Article: Top 45 Lies in Obamas Speech At The UN:17. “It is an insult to human reason — and to the legitimacy of this institution — to suggest that anyone other than the regime carried out this attack.” Really? In the absence of evidence, skepticism isn’t reasonable for this Colin-Powelled institution, the same U.N. that was told Libya would be a rescue and watched it become a war aimed at illegally overthrowing a government? Trust us?

http://my.firedoglake.com/davidswanson/2013/09/25/top-45-lies-in-obamas-speech-at-un/

Amazing! The man didn't even pretend to have evidence. So soon after the Powell fiasco too. He actually had the nerve to tell the UN that if they don't take his word for it they are not a legitimate institution. So shameless and arrogant! G. W. Bush must be turning green with envy.

DAnneMarc: You welcome! Sounds an awful lot like "either you're with us, or you're against us" and "mushroom cloud" nonsense from the Bush administration.