Deadly weather is the new normal...

Over the weekend, a deadly string of nearly 80 tornadoes ripped through the Midwest. Meteorologists called the storms “a rare and very dangerous late-season weather outbreak” that came on quickly and gave people little time to find shelter. As of Monday morning, at least six deaths had been reported from the storms that spanned seven states, and the worst of the damage occurred in the town of Washington, Illinois. Homes in that town were completely leveled, and debris is scattered for miles in every direction. Other towns were also hit hard by the twisters, and there were numerous reports of injuries.

Matt Friedlein of the National Weather Service said, “Weather doesn't get more extreme than this in Illinois very often.” He explained that “You've got wintertime winds in the atmosphere above summertime moisture. While unusual, when that happens, you're going to have very strong storms that move very quickly.”

The string of tornadoes came just days after the strongest storm on record - Typhoon Haiyan - hit the Philippines, proving that these deadly events are the new normal. Warmer weather, more moisture in the atmosphere, and rapidly changing weather patterns are leading to larger storms that leave more death and destruction in their wake. We can't stop these storms from forming, but we can do our best to prepare for extreme weather. And, we must demand that the world acts fast to prevent this deadly weather from getting any worse.

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DAnneMarc's picture
DAnneMarc 8 years 46 weeks ago
#1

Yes, the world needs to act fast. Unfortunately, it should have acted fast a decade ago. Even if the world banned all fossil fuels tomorrow, and mandated that Industrial Hemp replace all petroleum industry products we would still have to ride out decades of increasingly catastrophic weather before we could hope to see the light at the end of the tunnel. The eco-system just doesn't respond that fast. However we do not have that excuse.

DAnneMarc's picture
DAnneMarc 8 years 46 weeks ago
#2

Aliceinwonderland ~ Wow! What a coincidence? That sure didn't take long. It looks like we were both right about George Zimmerman. You in that he was an unpredictable violent psychotic; and, me in that if that was true it would only be a matter of time till Karma got him. Wallah!

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/18/justice/florida-george-zimmerman-arrest/

His recent behavior really makes me rethink what happened with Trayvon. I admit I may have been very wrong about the man.

An interesting interview with his ex wife:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/26/justice/shellie-zimmerman-interview/index.html

Ducinni's picture
Ducinni 8 years 46 weeks ago
#3

What I think is this I'm tried of reading or hearing AMERICAN NEWS MEDIA report every strom, car wreck, murder, mass murder, war being the "WORST EVER RECORDED IN THE DAWNING OF THE HUMAN RACE!!!" Tommorrow a strom will hit and the AMERICAN NEWS MEDIA will report, "THE WORST STROM RECORDED IN WORLD HISTORY!!!" The AMERICAN NEWS MEDIA ""LOVES"" DRAMA, and Americans LOVE to be feed this DRAMA, because they don't have a LIFE. JAMA reported that The United States of America is the most over medicated Country in the World. over half of the American Population is taking some form of PROZAC to deal with their LIVES. If the United States of America is the Greatest Country in the World then why do U.S.CITIZENS have to intoxicate and take DRUGS to live here. It reads like a BAD MARRIAGE to me.

DAnneMarc's picture
DAnneMarc 8 years 46 weeks ago
#4

A petition by argo95540 to stop the TPP. Please sign everyone. Thanks argo95540.

http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/stop-the-trans-pacific

akunard's picture
akunard 8 years 46 weeks ago
#5

Pretend you are Zimmerman:

1. You shot and killed some one. Read the police report, was sorry.

2. Trial, a media circus.

3. You might spend your life in jail.

4. Your government wants to re-try you.

5. A $10,000.00 bounty on your head, many blacks would like to kill you.

6. You will never be able to go out for a pizza, etc.

How would YOU handle that pressure?

N Z Sarah's picture
N Z Sarah 8 years 46 weeks ago
#6

It means a lot that Americans care about the TPPA. What we have been able to find out in New Zealand is that this secret document is designed to remove our rights to food and medicine choice, circumnavigate our laws and prevent the protection of our resources and environment.

akunard's picture
akunard 8 years 46 weeks ago
#7

Demand China and India to quit their pollution or we will either quit buying their cheap goods or bomb them back into the stone age. The UN wants the US to pay them to build clean factories so, we need to borrow more from China so we can help them clean their air.

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N Z Sarah 8 years 46 weeks ago
#8

http://sincedutch.wordpress.com/2013/11/10/11102013-microwave-beam-into-west-pacific-new-rotation-develops-as-result/

//www.globalresearch.ca/solar-radiation-management-geoengineering-and-chemtrails/5356632

Is this 'record' weather man-ipulated weather? There are many posts on youtube showing the history of government data and records that confirm geoengineering is being used extensively to create and enhance serious record breaking weather events. It is big money and power to have this control. Follow the money and it leads back to the big corporations, who run our governments. Weather wars are a lot cheaper and more covert than the old way, especially when people will not believe that their governments would do or allow such actions. Two recent links on this subject avaliable above. I will sing and dance the day Thom starts talking about geoengineering. It must be soon if the IPCC are talking openly about not stopping it.

IPCC warns policymakers not to stop ‘solar radiation management’

Aliceinwonderland's picture
Aliceinwonderland 8 years 46 weeks ago
#9

Marc, one of the things I love about you is your humility, your willingness to adjust your opinions to any new facts presented to you. This is a quality I highly value in those who possess it; one I've tried cultivating in myself as well. Where Mr. Z is concerned, I'm certain he is 100% responsible for Trayvon's death. The outcome of his trial highlights the sad fact that institutionalized racism is still alive and well in America.

As to the topic of the day, I don't have much to say about it except to point out the obvious: the price we pay for fossil fuel and excessive meat consumption goes well beyond what we pay in cash. If we continue to live as we do, disregarding the laws of nature, we do so at our peril. I'm no scientist, but most scientists would agree with that assessment. - Alice I.W.

DAnneMarc's picture
DAnneMarc 8 years 46 weeks ago
#10
Quote akunard:How would YOU handle that pressure?

akunard ~ Good question! First, I would do everything within my power to help the family of the victim. Then, I would spend a lot of time alone in meditation--possibly doing community service or starting a garden. I would never again touch a gun. I would read the Bible and try to seek inner forgiveness. I might even devote my life to a higher cause and join Green Peace or a monastery. I might even walk around black neighborhoods at night alone and unarmed--hoping someone would recognize me and put me out of my misery. I might even take my own life.

However, if you are suggesting for one minute that I would assault my father-in-law, threaten to shoot my wife, destroy her iPad--then shack up with another woman, attack her, smash her table and point a shotgun in her face... then my friend you are one sick... person! There is no way that you can convince me that Mr. Zimmerman is in anyway anything less than a violent prone antisocial psychotic. In my court that verdict has already been reached beyond a shadow of a doubt! This man should not be allowed to walk the street; and, I imagine that since the Judge didn't set bail, he probably feels the same way.

Aliceinwonderland's picture
Aliceinwonderland 8 years 46 weeks ago
#11

Akunard, anyone who would write a post like this has got to be one piece of work. Someone like Mr. Z, who beats up women and kills black kids, becomes the focus of a media circus and has to pay actual consequences, and can't feel safe going out for pizza anymore... is this supposed to be breaking mah heart? Wah.

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akunard 8 years 46 weeks ago
#12

The point is that prior to the circus there is NO evidence that Zimmerman was violent.

I would also like to note that at no time have I called any of you names. I also note truth and a view other than from the far left is not welcome here.

Aliceinwonderland's picture
Aliceinwonderland 8 years 46 weeks ago
#13

No record of violence on Mr. Z's part, prior to Trayvon's death? I don't know where you get your information, but that's not what I heard.

Kend's picture
Kend 8 years 46 weeks ago
#14

I have to agree with Akunarnd it is India and China who need to clean it up. Canada is responsible for 1.7 % of the worlds green house gases And we are reducing that every year We could cut it in half and it would barely change a thing

. The world has been warming for 50 million years I am not sure humans can change it.

I have to admit warming wouldn't be such a bad thing for Canada, longer growing season, less heat costs , hummm

DAnneMarc's picture
DAnneMarc 8 years 46 weeks ago
#15
Quote Aliceinwonderland:Where Mr. Z is concerned, I'm certain he is 100% responsible for Trayvon's death. The outcome of his trial highlights the sad fact that institutionalized racism is still alive and well in America.

Aliceinwonderland ~ Although one side of me really wants to disagree with that last sentence--I can't. However, I can't agree with it either. Remember, I watched the trial and I fell for Mr. Z's story too. I can see how a jury could have fallen for it quite easily without any racial feelings. However I now fully agree with your first statement. Especially after reading the interview with his wife. Quite amazing what he put her through. Quite amazing that she too thinks her husband is guilty. Who could argue with that? Threatening to pull a gun on his wife, and then aiming a shotgun at his girl friend's face? At that, a person nice enough--or dumb enough--to let him stay at her house? His wife stated that she didn't think there would have been any difference in the outcome if Trayvon was white. Apparently, in her opinion, Mr. Z was indeed a predator looking for any victim he could get that night. She said when he motioned to pull a gun on her that night that he had a look on his face like someone she "didn't know." Typical of a schizophrenic sociopath.

Anyway, Alice, thanks for the kind words; but, seriously, who could argue with all these new facts that have just come to light; and, that you were kind enough to point out the other day. Though short of a confession we may never be able to prove conclusively that Mr. Z murdered Trayvon there are two facts that I am now convinced of. 1) Mr. Z is a violent sociopath who needs to go on a long vacation from society; and, probably receive psychological treatment; and, 2) Karma is alive and well and doing it's thing.

As far as I am concerned, if Karma is forcing, or helping, this man to do all these stupid violent acts--a la O.J.--then the only logical conclusion is that he did indeed murder Trayvon Martin. I don't care how good of a liar you are you cannot fool Karma. Karma--unlike Mr. Z or our court system--doesn't make mistakes.

akunard's picture
akunard 8 years 46 weeks ago
#16

The prosecution spent big bucks in Florida digging dirt on Zimmerman, they found dust. Fliers, ads. the whole 9 yards.

DAnneMarc's picture
DAnneMarc 8 years 46 weeks ago
#17
Quote akunard:I would also like to note that at no time have I called any of you names. I also note truth and a view other than from the far left is not welcome here.

Aliceinwonderland ~ Did I miss something? You said he was a "piece of work." I said he was "a sick... person." Did someone call him a real name and edit it out? Also is he trying to imply that believing Zimmerman is guilty is some kind of a far left belief?

akunard ~ I apologize if you took offense at being called a sick... person. I wanted to call you a far worse name; but, controlled myself. After all, it was you who implied that pointing a loaded shotgun in a woman's face is a perfectly acceptable technique of stress management. With all due respect, I strongly disagree.

Mark Saulys's picture
Mark Saulys 8 years 46 weeks ago
#18

That's just it, Ducinni, of late (the last few years) we're breaking records relentlessly. All the winters and summers are the "hottest on record" and all the storms are category 10s or the biggest on record. You can take Prozac to deal with it as (I question your statistic of) "over half of the American population" or you can try to reduce carbon emissions if it isn't too late.

You can thank the influence of big pharma for overmedication. School children are medicated en masse as the school nurse comes to class every day to pass out meds. Schools are more like psych wards.

Mark Saulys's picture
Mark Saulys 8 years 46 weeks ago
#19

Kend, your idiocy is unconsciounable, reprehensible and positively disgusting.

The earth hasn't been warming for 50 million years. There have been several instances of warming due to volcanic activity putting CO2 in the atmosphere which were also instances of MASS EXTINCTION.

You'd like Canada to have warmer weather, Kend? You are the picture of idiocy.

Aliceinwonderland's picture
Aliceinwonderland 8 years 46 weeks ago
#20

Marc, "piece of work" is all I said. I really am trying to desist from name-calling, tempting as it is when I read such silly posts. As for whatever point "akunard" was trying to make, only he can answer your question as to what he meant. But it sounds to me like your interpretation of his remarks is accurate. I wouldn't put it past him to suggest that believing Zimmerman's guilt makes one "far left". After all, he's said some pretty lame things. - AIW

DAnneMarc's picture
DAnneMarc 8 years 46 weeks ago
#21
Quote N Z Sarah:Is this 'record' weather man-ipulated weather? There are many posts on youtube showing the history of government data and records that confirm geoengineering is being used extensively to create and enhance serious record breaking weather events. It is big money and power to have this control. Follow the money and it leads back to the big corporations, who run our governments.

N Z Sarah ~ I too have seen the YouTube videos and read articles on the HAARP project and all the conspiracy theories associated with it. The actual theory behind HAARP technology is based on Tesla theories and to some degree make a lot of sense. However, I seriously doubt that this technology is being used for this nefarious purpose. The reason for my conclusion is based on what you've said, show me the money. Show me the profit of damaging several nuclear power plants in Japan and risking rendering the entire northern hemisphere uninhabitable. Show me the profit of destroying Hawaii, Cancun, Haiti, the Midwest, New Orleans, Manhattan, and New Jersey. Show me the profit of destroying the Philippines and the coastline of Southeast Asia. Unless the Red Cross or FEMA have stock that has skyrocketed recently, it just doesn't make sense to me.

Chem trails and Geo-engineering, on the other hand, are very real, very stupid, and very dangerous. Imagine the desperation of seeking to perfect a way of controlled contamination of the atmosphere just to negate some of the effects of Global Warming and prolong the use of fossil fuels. Unbelievable! Almost funny, if it wasn't true. Although, from what I understand, this technology is only in the experimental phases at this time. (At least I hope it is.) Nevertheless, I too must second your suggestion that Thom does cover this technology in an upcoming segment because it very well may be a huge political issue in the near future; and, we as a planet need to make sure that this plan never sees the light of day. (Pardon the pun.)

PS I think covering the potential weather implications of the HAARP project may be a valid topic for discussion on the show as well. Today, a caller brought up HAARP in relation to the tornadoes over the weekend. Despite the fact that I discount the idea that the Government and corporations would use this technology to destroy property and people for profit it is entirely possible that the Defense Department could try--or have tried--to develop the technology as a weapon. In fact, the possibility that the idea has already occurred to the DOD is far more likely than not. It would be quite foolish to assume that it isn't being tested for to some extent for weapons applications. Exploring the topic--in my opinion--would be a good idea. From Thom's reaction to the caller it was obvious the Thom knew nothing about the potential weapon application of the HAARP project.

DAnneMarc's picture
DAnneMarc 8 years 46 weeks ago
#22
Quote Mark Saulys: Kend, your idiocy is unconsciounable, reprehensible and positively disgusting.

Mark Saulys ~ Very well said! Yet, you have to give him this much--he always manages to outdo himself.

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Mark Saulys 8 years 46 weeks ago
#23

Akunard, try not to be a lying piece of shit. You just made that stuff up. Zimmerman didn't have "ZERO evidence of violence in his past", Zimmerman's violent past was ruled INADMISSIBLE in court. That's a major difference.

In 2005 he was arrested for "violently resisting a police officer" in a case of underage drinking by a companion. As part of the plea deal he went into alcohol rehab. Later that year his fiance sought a restraining order against him for domestic violence.

Two days after the Trayvvon Martin shooting a relative of Zimmerman, who pleaded for annonymity and thus was called witness no.9, called the police investigators of the case and tried to tell them of his violent history. She said that he molested her for ten years when they were children since she was 6. A Washington Post story reported, “I know George. And I know that he does not like black people,” she told a Sanford police officer during a telephone call in which she pleaded for anonymity. “He would start something. He’s a very confrontational person. It’s in his blood. Let’s just say that. I don’t want this poor kid and his family to just be overlooked.” At the end of the call, Witness No. 9 urged the officer to “get character reports from other people and see if he’s ever said anything about black people, about being racist or anything like that because I guarantee you there’s somebody out there who will say it.” Over a period of eight years Zimmerman made at least 46 calls to the Sanford police about suspicious activity by black males.

Akunard, we just don't like liars, you don't even try to make it sound good and remember what Stephen Colbert said about truth and reality, "Reality has a well known liberal bias.".

DAnneMarc's picture
DAnneMarc 8 years 46 weeks ago
#24

I'm gonna turn in guys. But before I go I must remind you all--if you haven't already--PLEASE SIGN THIS PETITION. If you do nothing else tonight. PLEASE SIGN!

http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/stop-the-trans-pacific

Thank you! And Good Night!

STOP THE TPP!!

Aliceinwonderland's picture
Aliceinwonderland 8 years 46 weeks ago
#25

Marc, I signed that petition. I've also got three handwritten letters ready to mail, to try persuading our Oregon representative and two senators to take a stand against the Trans Pacific Pirate Ship (as Mary so succinctly calls it). - AIW

stecoop01's picture
stecoop01 8 years 46 weeks ago
#26

Global warming is really very simple - Mother Earth has a bad case of "people" and is running a fever, just as we run a fever when we get sick. We are doomed.

Aliceinwonderland's picture
Aliceinwonderland 8 years 46 weeks ago
#27

I know what you mean, "stecoop". That fever metaphor has occurred to me as well.

What I love about this blog is how many kindred spirits I keep encountering here. - AIW

Aliceinwonderland's picture
Aliceinwonderland 8 years 46 weeks ago
#28

Mark, you've got your work cut out for you. These conservatives are notorious for making up their own facts.

akunard's picture
akunard 8 years 46 weeks ago
#29

Mark please share with us all you know about Travon's last year on earth and why his mother shipped him to his father.

Aliceinwonderland's picture
Aliceinwonderland 8 years 46 weeks ago
#30

Your desire to scrutinize the character of this murdered child is very presumptuous, if not racist. In families where parents are divorced, children often alternate between living with the mother and father. Why are you not scrutinizing the character of the perpetrator in this case? I'm talking about a man who beats up women and uses black kids for target practice. Gee I wonder why Mr. Z's in jail, and why his wife is divorcing him! Seems to me THAT's the guy who deserves our scrutiny. - Aliceinwonderland

Mark Saulys's picture
Mark Saulys 8 years 46 weeks ago
#31

You wanna share all the non sequiteurial conclusions you extrapolated from that? Trayvvon Martin or anybody else doesn't have to be the most congenial personality to not deserve being stalked and shot on his way home from the store. Zimmerman was already much more a crimminal than Trayvvon Martin even before his self righteous and racist confontation of Trayvvon Martin and you, Akunard, are just a paid liar.

Mark Saulys's picture
Mark Saulys 8 years 46 weeks ago
#32

Stecoop, humanity is the ultimate invasive species. If it wasn't global warming it'd be something else, there're just too many people in the world. Population control is something we should've seriously taken on when we were first talking about it 50 years ago.

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daryl-payne 8 years 46 weeks ago
#33

I would turn myself in or maybe get help for my racist upbringing.

daryl-payne's picture
daryl-payne 8 years 46 weeks ago
#34

Done!

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daryl-payne 8 years 46 weeks ago
#35

lol !

akunard's picture
akunard 8 years 46 weeks ago
#36

Mark you chose your facts as carefuly as Al Sharpton!

Mark Saulys's picture
Mark Saulys 8 years 46 weeks ago
#37

Akunard, you'll say just ANYTHING, that's plain and obvious. You're not convincing or impressing anybody, increasingly, NOBODY listens to you or pays much, if any, attention to you and you have less than NO credibility. Whoever pays you is wasting their money on such a sorry assed clown.

akunard's picture
akunard 8 years 46 weeks ago
#38

The F.B.I. has had Zimmerman's life under a microscope, before, during and after the trial. If there was one shred of evidence Holder would have him in Fed. court for a hate crime.

When children run out of facts they resort to calling names.

Aliceinwonderland's picture
Aliceinwonderland 8 years 46 weeks ago
#39

"akunard", I suggest you quit while you're behind.

DAnneMarc's picture
DAnneMarc 8 years 46 weeks ago
#40
Quote Mark Saulys:Akunard, you'll say just ANYTHING, that's plain and obvious. You're not convincing or impressing anybody, increasingly, NOBODY listens to you or pays much, if any, attention to you and you have less than NO credibility. Whoever pays you is wasting their money on such a sorry assed clown.

akunard ~ First of all, calling you a "sorry assed clown" to me is a compliment. Why don't you stop for a second, take a deep breath, exhale, stand up, walk around a bit, and then reread everything you've written so far. Think about this, you are defending a man who abuses his wife, punches his father in law, threatens to shoot his wife and his girlfriend, destroys other people property, has a laundry list of violent antisocial behavior as Mark Saulys so articulately summarized in post #24, and quite probably murdered an innocent 17 year old. Your logic and demeanor isn't exactly coming across on the level of Socrates.

In my humble opinion the assessment of Mark Saulys quoted above is quite accurate. You've stated that we should research the "likely tainted" past of Trayvon Martin. To lend credibility to that statement obviously you must have already done that research. Could you please share with us the fruit of such work rather than simply imply--like a dedicated racist would--that there is anything to that assertion?

DAnneMarc's picture
DAnneMarc 8 years 46 weeks ago
#41

akunard ~ Ok I did my own search out of curiosity and found this.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html

Public enemy no. 1 Trayvon Martin. What did he do? He was suspended from school three times. Most notably when he wrote WTF on a school locker with a magic marker and when searched was caught with an empty bag of pot, some women's jewelry, and a screw driver; and, was temporarily suspended from school. Sounds like a typical teenager to me. He didn't even have an arrest record, or possession of a firearm; which, as I understand, is more like the typical norm today when a student is searched. By today's "standards" that almost makes him an honor role student.

You might also note that when I did this search not only was this the only thing I found; but, the search engine window went blank after typing "suspicious history of Trayv..." Evidently it is not a popular search phrase. If you can do better akunard... I'm listening.

DAnneMarc's picture
DAnneMarc 8 years 46 weeks ago
#42
Quote akunard:5. A $10,000.00 bounty on your head, many blacks would like to kill you.

6. You will never be able to go out for a pizza, etc.

akunard ~ BTW I might add that your assertion of a $10K bounty on his head was made flippantly by the leader of an organization called, "The 'New' Black Panthers." This organization is so militant and racist that it has been publically denounced by the real Black Panthers who want nothing to do with them. I can't speak for all black people but I'm fairly certain that the vast majority do not follow this radical group. If Mr. Z has anything to fear from black people it is a fear of his own making. The same fear that I have noticed that most racist share. As far as reality is concerned, Mr. Z could deliver pizzas in black neighborhoods without fear or danger if he truly wasn't a racist and he truly was innocent.

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Mark Saulys 8 years 46 weeks ago
#43

Liars are unimpressed with facts. Evidence that would convict a person of a specific crime is not necessary to see that someone is a racist. Don't get me wrong, Akunard, you and Zimmerman have a right to your loves, hates, likes and dislikes and to be racists if you choose but that doesn't mean you're not despicable pukes.

Mark Saulys's picture
Mark Saulys 8 years 46 weeks ago
#44

Zimmerman is a pariah to decent people but a hero to racists and the NRA which, unfortunately, in this country, is A LOT of people.

akunard's picture
akunard 8 years 46 weeks ago
#45

Now that most here have spent a lot of time and emotion putting words in my mouth, calling me names (hoping I would reply in kind) and placing labels on my back, I will now explain what you are incapable of understanding.

Zimmerman has been put under stress that few on this planet could understand or withstand. It is understandable that a simple man would break and embark on a path of self destruction.

To be true to your cause place a sign on the front door of your home:

I DIAL 911 BECAUSE I WOULD NEVER SHOOT ONE OF MY FELLOW MEN!

DAnneMarc's picture
DAnneMarc 8 years 46 weeks ago
#46
Quote akunard:When children run out of facts they resort to calling names.

akunard ~ Actually, children usually resort to name calling first without regard to anything else; and, never even care about facts. A lot like you it would seem. Case in point, comparing your opponents to "children" can also be referred to as name calling. Also, the statement...

Quote akunard:The F.B.I. has had Zimmerman's life under a microscope, before, during and after the trial. If there was one shred of evidence Holder would have him in Fed. court for a hate crime.

...is not only completely devoid of facts itself; but, is full of presumptuous innuendos. As far as I am concerned if the FBI, NSA or CIA want to violate Mr. Z's rights to privacy the only thing I would accuse them of is doing their job. The man's history is one of violence and he may have committed a heinous act of cold blooded murder. Do you suggest they wait for the attack on his next victim to keep an eye on him?

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Mark Saulys 8 years 46 weeks ago
#47

Well, you reap what you sow and so does Zimmerman. Presuming you're right and he just can't handle being a pariah the fact remains ("fact", what you falsley claim to love) his history of domestic violence goes back to 2005 so I'll make something up like you did. I say he's showing his true colors under pressure.

Anyway, people come under worse pressure than he is under but you're MIGHTY sympathetic to him. Are you a fellow racist or did the big business PR firm you work for just tell you to jump in his corner - or, to muddy the water or divert the conversation from climate change?

Aliceinwonderland's picture
Aliceinwonderland 8 years 46 weeks ago
#48

"Akunard"- Gee whiz, I find it so touching how sympathetic you are to a racist-misogynist thug like Zimmerman. You don't seem to object to him beating up women or shooting black kids. Yet when Mr. Z pays the consequences for this kind of behavior, you're whining about him getting "put under stress that a few on this planet could understand or withstand". I guess you think he should be left alone to batter and kill more people, without having his little life ruined. Women and blacks are just second-class citizens anyway; their lives are dispensible, so who cares? Right, "akunard"? But don't worry, I won't be calling you any names. I'll just let your dumb-ass posts speak for themselves. - Aliceinwonderland

DAnneMarc's picture
DAnneMarc 8 years 46 weeks ago
#49
Quote akunard:Zimmerman has been put under stress that few on this planet could understand or withstand. It is understandable that a simple man would break and embark on a path of self destruction.

akunard ~ Mr. Z asked for that stress. He went out and bought a gun, carried it with him, and then--against repeated police orders--got out of his car and went looking for trouble. How does that define Mr. Z as a "simple man?" He was not placed under any stress by anyone. Are you suggesting that it is wrong for society to place charges against a man for killing another man in suspicious circumstances? Is this assertion because Mr. M was black? Even if Mr. Z acted purely in self defense when he killed Trayvon, police do the same thing everyday. Are you suggesting that it is perfectly understandable for an off duty policeman who had a bad day to point a loaded shotgun in his wifes face to blow off some stress?

Quote akunard:To be true to your cause place a sign on the front door of your home:

I DIAL 911 BECAUSE I WOULD NEVER SHOOT ONE OF MY FELLOW MEN!

akunard ~ Now that takes the cake. Aliceinwonderland was so right. You should have quite while you were behind. LOL!! Are you suggesting now that the only way we can be safe in our own homes is by packing heat and letting everyone else think that they will be shot if they rob us? Is that really the way you think? You are only safe because you have a gun? People don't readily attack you because they think you might kill them? Really? REALLY? Can you say PARANOID!

You and Mr. Z are two peas in a pod--or should I say two nuts in a nutshell.

DAnneMarc's picture
DAnneMarc 8 years 46 weeks ago
#50

akunard ~ With all due respect, the testimony I believe in a case like this one is the one written through actions under the influence of Karma. Experience and observation have taught me that the spirit--call it what you will--Karma, a guilty conscious, the law of entropy, etc--tends to protect the innocent and flush out the guilty. I knew if Mr. Z was really guilty it would only be a matter of time till Karma forced that hand. I openly stated that just one day before all this happened yesterday on last Friday's blog right here. Go look it up for yourself.

http://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2013/11/peak-behind-tpp-curtain

(See post #49 dated Sunday, 11-17-2013) I stand by that statement about Karma!

Look at O.J. Consider what he was compelled to do by Karma after his trials. First, he writes a book called, "If I Did It." For lack of a better title, a written confession to the murder--complete with a chapter full of all the grizzly details. Even the title, minus the "If" clearly states, "...I Did It." Then, he goes on a bing to steal back his own property at gunpoint, further displaying his willingness to kill and a complete lack of respect for the justice system. It just goes to show that even the best lawyer money can buy can't save you from the court of Karma.

The same is true here with Mr. Z. Stress or maybe a bad day? Oh, I'm sure he's under undue stress alright. The undue stress of unresolved Karma. Why else would he point a loaded shotgun at a woman's face, destroy her table, and barricaded himself in her house unless there were "unresolved issues." You don't have to be Sigmund Freud or the Dalai Lama to see that this man has unresolved deep psychological and spiritual issues. What do you think could lead to such a confrontation, a disagreement on what to watch on TV? Whatever strange violent tendencies he may have always had have been put on steroids by Karma because, as it would appear, the man is guilty as charged. I will be the first to defend a man against racist allegations and incomplete evidence; however, I would be a fool to discount the display of bad Karma Mr. Z has provided to the world since the trial. You suggest that I consider the man a victim of circumstances and a innocent reacting badly to undue stress caused by the unintended consequences of his reasonable actions? Sorry, I don't buy it. Mr. Z belongs behind bars. Perhaps there he can find peace.

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