I heard you say that you are in favor of a constitutional convention. But you followed back your belief that there is not enough support. I am very glad to correct you on this, in fact the 99%, anonymous,the tea party, the majority of world bank whistle blowers including Karen Hudes(hint; great person to have on as a guest). So please join us, if you want source information please ask and I will send. Freedom 2014

;contact me at gavrielinmotion@hotmail.com

if you want more information or would like to get involved.

a very interesting interview and a wink and a nod at inviting Karen on your show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWBogcrFGx4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS4sBZyjTEE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZJ0w8FRAF0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joDR2If5I8o

sandlewould ~ Well, it looks like if Thom didn't read your letter yesterday, he sure was on the same beam of influence.

The Main Stream media is a joke that is not funny. I've given up on 99% of it about 6 years ago or so. (I turn on the news for 10 min. in the morning to hear the weather and traffic. That's about it.) I believe the only recourse we have in this matter is to boycott the major networks. That's no problemo for your's truly. Consider it done! It's about time the rest of the country jumps on the bandwagon. "0" profits will get their attention. Meanwhile, lets use the "free market" to move all those profits to better desired media sources like RT and Free Speech TV. After all, Corporations may have control now; but, in the end, we own them.

DAnne,

I must say it is gratifying to hear (see) Thom’s rant on the subject. (Thanks, Thom!) I am, obviously, obsessed with what to me is the FACT that there will be no way to wake up the country at large or organize constructively enough to force the hands of our legislators/leaders unless we gain control of the general dialogue. 30 years of ubiquitous propaganda and lies have thrown so many wrenches in the works of critical thought that perfectly bright people have been turned into blithering idiots who believe the complete opposite of what is true...and there’s no reasoning with them. After all, they heard it on the News! I am trying to figure out how to organize a movement of protestors that show up at the FCC’s monthly meetings demanding a return to the fairness doctrine and monopoly restrictions at the very least, if not the declaration of all media as public utilities that can only be run publicly and not-for-profit (in my dreams). As far as electing legislators who big $$$ can’t buy...I defer to a recent interview I heard on ‘Breaking the Set’.

In the words of Kshama Sawant;

“...If you are serving in the Democratic Party, you are serving the interests of big business. That is not a channel for social change. The sooner we wake up to this fact, the sooner we can implement change”.

I've expressed my thoughts on the "Shafta" (thanks, Thom) over at firedoglake:

http://my.firedoglake.com/karenjj2/2014/02/05/the-tpp-contract-for-a-cor...

I thoroughly enjoy the Thom Hartmann show especially hearing from sane and rational folks across the country.

I thought up another plan of attack that I have not seen mentioned here. Every day at the opening of the Senate and the House, Berne Sanders and some progressive from the house should read Article III, Section 2 of the constitution. The should especially read the part that says " ... the supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Ecsceptions, and under such Regulations as te Congress shall make." If they read it enough times, maybe the Congress will like the power the constitution has given them and act on it. For example, they would tell SCOTUS where to stick that decision they made about the McCain - Feingold Law.

sandlewould ~ I never said it would work, I said it is the most logical course of action to take. The way I look at it a fight ain't over till it's over. You don't stop swinging until you hit the ground and the lights go off. Glad to hear you're behind movetoamend.org 100%. Be as pessimistic as you want, but don't give up on that fight. Right now, that is the arrow head of our offensive.

chuckle8 ~ I'm not sure if I understand your reasoning. Can you possibly stretch that Constitutional clause to blow away Citizens United?

As far as Keystone goes and believe me I personally have a lot at stake with it. Please, please, please just make a &$%#ing decession. Yes / No whatever. How arrogant do you have to be to hold up a massive decession that holds up a whole nations major industry for 5 1/2 years. Five and a half years and five studies all that passed with flying colors. All the states involved OK'd it. if the truth be told Keystone isn't in the best interest of the Canadian oilfield industry. We would be much better off to go with option two where we refine and export our own oil. Other countries would pay much More. But a good neighbour would reach out and offer to help a struggling freind. A good neighbour would offer to supply a freind with safe, clean, environmentally friendly low priced energy. But I understand. If you believe it isn't the right thing for you no problem. we will move on and sell it to China or India who are starving for clean energy. So please please just for your old buddy kend call who ever you can and get a secession made for me. No, yes what ever just get it over with so we can move on.

sandlewould ~ Yesterday you mentioned that the media programmed dupes were "Blithering Idiots." I was just curious what does a regular idiot need to do to become a "Blithering Idiot?" I mean, do they need to sign up for a special course and pass a special test? Inquiring minds want to know.

Oh, wait! I think I'm asking the wrong person. Sorry sandlewould!

Kend ~ You should be able to answer this question. What do you say?

Kend ~ Thanks! I was sure you could shed light on that question.

As far as Keystone is concerned I can't answer for the majority of Americans; but, if my intuition is correct, the answer is a not no, but fuck no0! If that helps.

10k and DAnne. sincerely why do you think this decision has taken so long? Just say NO then. Why drag it on and on and on. Most Canadians could care less either way. Because of the delay there is three more pipelines being proposed here in Canada two to the west coast and one to the east coast to refine and replace middle east oil. We are going to sell it. That is a fact. I sincerely respect Americans opposition to it and I and all Canadians would respect any decession. But just make it. Why the delay? Is it because America is going to regret the chance they had to get oil from a clean reputable source. If we start shipping over seas the price of energy in the US will go up. Is that what scares them to say no. Honestly here we don't understand. If it isn't for America then JUST SAY NO

DAnne have you not read a thing I said. There is no answer. please mr president say no then. deal with what. I would love for Obama to say no. Then it would be over.

Bill Maher is starting to sound like a right wing democrat. On tonight's show he seemed to be ragging on old people who get social security and medicare. He effectively said that old people (referring of course to those of us who don't have millions like he does) are way too expensive but get away with it "because they vote". That, and his tending to side with invading Iraq years ago, makes me think that he is part of what's wrong with America....people who pretend to be liberal but who are largely right wing. I usually agree with most of what he says but once in a while he'll shoot way off and disgrace himself. I'm expecting him to, one day, joke about turning old people into Soylent Green...and get the strong feeling that he isn't joking! Sure, he donated $1million to Obama's second campaign but these wealthy people tend to hang together anyway.

The 2nd amendment was put into place to assure the Southern States that they could keep "well regulated militias" as a means of controlling slave communities and prevent slave rebellion. It was for the continuance of Slave Patrols, to hunt down runaways and keep weapons out of the hands of slaves, the African Americans. It was a big fear back then.

And when we enter into a universal slavery scenario, after the collapse of the U.S. dollar, slave patrols could return all across the nation. Only this time color won't be the issue. Your RFID chip will be an issue.

I hope not. But where is all this gun talk really leading.

I don't believe the changes you imply will ever result in this scenario. No "slave patrols," etc. People anticipate a sudden and dramatic change when, in fact, the changes we fear have been gradually taking place, incrementally, since the 1980s. The success of these changes has been contingent on retraining the public to accept that a distinct section of the population is something less than the rest of us. We can use this group as cheap labor (often sub-min. wages), requiring them to work at jobs chosen for them. They have no choices, and no workers' rights or protections. Such a scenario would have been unimaginable before Reagan. Today, even those who consider themselves "progressive" don't even question this agenda. We call it "workfare labor." Of course, this isn't the only segment of the population that can be effectively stripped of choices and paid less than free Americans, but it's the biggest segment, and the point is that "progressive" media itself doesn't consider this worth questioning. Think about this: The US shipped out a massive chunk of its working class jobs since the 1980s, and then even liberals agreed that those who were left behind are no longer entitled to the most basic human rights of food and shelter. That's a stunning change in public thinking, and what it comes down to is the fact that we have accepted (without question) the start of a slave class, stripped of basic rights, where only those who are of service to employers (the corporate state) deserve to live. Success of the "slavery agenda" relies on public acceptance of it, and this generation is the first in modern history that has been willing to embrace it.

sandlewood: No, we can't all just get along. This would require everyone thinking the same. When the stakes are high, it's a battle between those who would personally gain and those who would personally lose -- on any issue. Idealism is nice, but we've very much reverted to being a primitive, "might-makes-right," society/culture. That's just the way things are.

Kend ~ PS You might want to note that since the Fukushima disaster, and the ever increasing levels of radiation all over the country, the growing trend is going to be far more increasing opposition to any proposals that can harm the environment. In the future, if I were you, I would invest accordingly.

Yes, there have always been cycles in the weather with flooding and droughts, high temperatures and low temperatures. But you need to look at the data collected over time and the evidence collected in sample cores of the ice fields in the Arctic or Antarctic that tells a story of the very long term history. Global warming is a fact and it is a fact that man has been responsible for the dramatic increase in global warming due to fossil fuels.

You can say you have read reports from studies that indicate otherwise but you are most likely reading studies that are being payed for, and influenced by, the fossil fuel industry.

I'd highly recommend that you watch a documentary that has been playing on either FSTV or Link TV called White Water Black Gold. It sure doesn't make Alberta Canada look very clean and pristine with all the tar-sands leaks they've had that have poisoned their water.

Quote science.howstuffworks:The seeds of the Dust Bowl may have been sowed during the early 1920s. A post-World War I recession led farmers to try new mechanized farming techniques as a way to increase profits. Many bought plows and other farming equipment, and between 1925 and 1930 more than 5 million acres of previously unfarmed land was plowed [source: CSA]. With the help of mechanized farming, farmers produced record crops during the 1931 season. However, overproduction of wheat coupled with the Great Depression led to severely reduce­d market prices.

But plow-based farming in this re­gion cultivated an unexpected yield: the loss of fertile topsoil that literally blew away in the winds, leaving the land vulnerable to drought and inhospitable for growing crops. In a brutal twist of fate, the rains stopped. By 1932, 14 dust storms, known as black blizzards were reported, and in just one year, the number increased to nearly 40.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/dust-bowl-c...

Our government, back in the 30s, were unmoved by the plight of the central states when the dust storms kicked up. But one day...even Washington, DC finally suffered the wrath of their stubbornness when a big dust storm blew into DC. It was only then when they realized that they needed to do something.

Quote Kend: but I read more and more research that is doubting the cause. for example what caused the heat and dry conditions in the 30's.

Kend ~ I suppose you are referring to the great Dust Bowl disaster? I suppose you are implying that it was a natural disaster? No, it wasn't; at least, not entirely. It was mostly a man made disaster coupled with nature--much like climate change is. Don't take my word for it, read for yourself:

http://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-dust-bowl

Quote The History Channel:2. The Dust Bowl was both a manmade and natural disaster.

Beginning with World War I, American wheat harvests flowed like gold as demand boomed. Lured by record wheat prices and promises by land developers that “rain follows the plow,” farmers powered by new gasoline tractors over-plowed and over-grazed the southern Plains. When the drought and Great Depression hit in the early 1930s, the wheat market collapsed. Once the oceans of wheat, which replaced the sea of prairie grass that anchored the topsoil into place, dried up, the land was defenseless against the winds that buffeted the Plains.

It's not unusual that we have to learn everything the hard way. When the almighty dollar beckons, even the best of us become really stupid. The first thing we do is to ignore the advice of scientists and experts who know what they are talking about. Behold, as history repeats itself.

Kend: It's so nice that you are so concerned about wind turbines killing birds but what about all those poor migrating birds that land in those tar-sands toxic waste ponds in Alberta? They are just great big death traps for those, and other, wildlife. Watch the documentary White Water Black Gold.

And when they start pumping all that toxic sludge through the XL pipeline, through the middle of the US, starts to leak big time as it has in Canada it will poison our major underground aquifers. There goes the bread basket... there goes the cattle raising industry. Talk about wasteland... and dust bowls... just wait till this happens... and there will be no way to clean it up. They still haven't been able to clean up the other oil spills sufficiently to keep from killing off wildlife. the Gulf spill was "cleaned up" by spraying toxic chemicals that are now not only killing off the marine life in the gulf but are mutating them. And all that toxic sludge settles to the bottom where shellfish and other lifeforms live.

DAnneMarc: Oh, I see, yes I just read your post #36...well said! And let's not forget how since fossil fuels have been used big time during the industrial age..how polluting they were. Tractors and factories belching out thick plumes of smoke into our atmosphere. Many people suffered big time from respiratory diseases who lived in such areas.

It has only been the reigns put on industry to find ways to minimize pollution that has helped save many millions of people from a horrible lung disease.

Of course cigarettes helped fill the graves since. "Four out of five doctors recommend Camels cigarettes!" Yeah, right!

And it's funny because I just saw the new movie "The Monuments Men" and it had a short scene of a man being examined with a stethoscope for a breathing problem by a doctor and they were both smoking cigarettes at the time. Funny! But really, not so funny. It's a shame, really.

But that's what marketing and capitalist greed can do to us. The psychological manipulation to spend your money on things that will kill you.

It was a pretty good movie, though. But, if you compare this movie they made on recovering Nazi stolen loot (gold, jewels, art) to the Japanese Golden Lily operation of stolen loot (gold, jewels, art)...they try to stay away from even mentioning the latter. All that loot, some of which is still buried in the Philippines, has never been returned to the victims of South East Asia...the Chinese, largely.

After all, while the movie depicted a handful of brave old men whose task it was to recover the Nazi loot to "return to their rightful owners" (largely wealthy Jews)...they would never show a movie of the US keeping all the Japanese loot they found buried in the Philippines. Some of it the US even returned to the villains who stole it in the first place...to the Japanese (Nixon's deal for support for being reelected).

The US kept all that loot to fund the cold war. Marcos and Imelda got a lot of it too.

"Why drag it on and on?" he pleads. "Please Mr. President say no then… then it would be over…" Kend, Kend, Kend… I'm hearing violins. And what I read between the lines goes something like "Ohhh pleeeez you're tearin' me apart, stop torturing me! Go ahead, reject our pipeline an' break m'heart… I'm a big boy I can take it…" Wah. Boo-hoo-hoo.

Kend- "Research doubting the cause" of global warming? Don't make me laugh. You company shills never quit. Don't you guys ever sleep?

Sorry pal, you're not getting away with that here. Keep it up on this forum and you'll just get scoffed at. Nobody will take you seriously, except maybe the occasional yahoo rightie from Fauxland. Far as your precious Keystone is concerned, you kah-nooks have one hell of a nerve thinking you're gonna ram this thing through our country, defiling our forests, imposing eminent domain on American citizens while you use this land as your toxic dump. Think we're stupid? If you're the ones so hell-bent on that pipeline, and you're the ones who stand to profit from it, then you can stick that piece of crap on your own goddam turf! Because what we have to gain from it is minus zero. What we'll get is an intrusion, an eyesore, a safety hazard, health risks, environmental damage... need I go on? As for this "news" you heard the other day, I'd bet my house and piano the source of that news was your standard corporate drivel, with all its self-serving little lies, half-truths, omissions ad nauseam! Is there anything else about "NO" you don't understand? I thought Canadians spoke English. In case the above leaves any doubt, I repeat: WE DON'T WANT YOUR PHUCKIN' PIPELINE! GOT IT? - Aliceinwonderland

Palin yes a few birds died in the tar ponds. approx. 1200. There was a unusual amount of snow one year and they didn't get the noise makers out quick enough. But hundreds of thousands of birds die yearly to wind turbines and to replace fossil fuel energy with wind turbines you would need millions of them. Who needs birds I guess.

I guess you don't understand anything about keystone. If built it would replace 900,000 barrels of oil a day that is brought by tanker through the gulf from Venusula. We all know what can happen there. A pipeline on the other hand has valves all along it that can be shut down in seconds if there is a leak. I guess you didn't know that Canada ships 2.2 million barrels a day already of our toxic waste to the US via pipeline already. Where is the protests to stop them from getting into your aquifers.

I think I did see White water black gold it has so many false truths in it I don't know where yo start but I will confirm we are talking about the same ting. . like Gasland. Give me a break. there is almost no truth in that movie.

Kend: I'd rather have fewer birds than fewer people needlessly dying as the result of massive chemical pollutants in our air and water... and that's just what is likely to happen if our aquifers are poisoned by the fossil fuel industry... whether it is fracking or the XL pipeline leaking. I wonder how many birds are killed each year by jet liners? So, it looks like no matter what we do, we will most likely kill some birds. But, at least it would be limited to birds...other animals would die at those huge toxic sludge ponds...but not so from windmills. And I don't know of any animals or birds that would be hurt by solar cell arrays...or geothermal generators. We've got to move away from fossil fuel and into alternative forms of energy before it is too late. Other countries are doing it and the US is tailing far behind other countries in that regard. But too many rich and powerful people are too willing to sell out their children's, or grand children's, future for a quick profit now.

DAnneMarc: My bad! At 21minutes and 50 seconds into that last video...the backdrop fell down displaying a bare wall. There was no high rise overlooking tall buildings...so it could very well have been at the Bethesda address after all. She may have been trying to disguise her whereabouts... especially after some blogger and his young son died about that time from gunshot wounds and burned up in the house fire..very suspicious! Authorities called it a murder/suicide. But was it really. The guy was very active in blogging about what Karen Hudes has been saying.

Palin, fracking does not cause earthquakes or poison your water please do what you ask me to do and look at the science not some phoney movie.

solar panels are made from rare earth metals. Because of the solar boom they are being mined in third world countries with no environmental rules at all. Mainly China. That is the real toxic waste poisioning water systems. But I guess it doesn't matter as long as isn't in your back yard.

We can kill the Poor Chinese people and millions of birds but at least we didn't buy ethical oil from Canada.