The Ferguson Effect On Our Great Grand Children

A few weeks ago, Congressman Paul Ryan released his latest proposal for tackling America’s poverty epidemic. Unfortunately, the plan does very little to combat poverty in our country, and instead, continues the devastating austerity policies that Ryan himself helped to create. Thanks to those policies, entire communities across America are underwater, and struggling to survive in tough economic times.

One of those communities is Ferguson, Missouri. While that community continues to protest the police shooting death of unarmed 18-year-old Michael Brown, it’s also dealing with crippling poverty. An analysis by Elizabeth Kneebone, an economic scholar with the Brookings Institution, found that unemployment in Ferguson more than doubled between 2000 and 2012. The analysis also found that more than a quarter of Ferguson households had incomes below the federal poverty line of $23,492 in 2012.

So, not only are the people of Ferguson dealing with the traumatic death of Michael Brown and the resulting violent reactions to that death, they’re also dealing with debilitating poverty. And unfortunately, both of those experiences are likely to stick with the Ferguson community for decades to come, thanks to something called epigenetics.

Epigenetics is a field of science that studies how external forces and stressors, including things like poverty, hunger, and violence, can cause the human body to change the way certain genes are expressed, which control the way our body reacts to things. In other words, the science of epigenetics says that life events can alter our DNA. Some of those changes can be partly beneficial. For instance, if you’re in a high-stress environment, your body can “turn on” genes meant to deal with high stress situations. But it could come with the trade-off a shorter lifespan.

The real problem is that once those genes are turned on or off, that new situation becomes part of your personal genome, and can be passed on to future generations, which are forced to deal with the consequences. For example, a study by researchers at University College London’s Institute of Child Health found that, thanks to epigenetics, children whose parents and grandparents were born into poverty can, themselves, carry the scars of that past poverty with them for the rest of their lives.

That’s because children born to families who've lived generations in poverty inherit genes configured to help them survive that poverty, but as the researchers pointed out, turning those genes on can make those children more susceptible to health conditions like heart disease, diabetes, and cancer when they’re adults. And epigenetic changes - genetic changes caused by the circumstances of life - have previously been linked to a variety of mental disorders too, including bipolar disorder and schizophrenia.

But it’s not just exposure to poverty than can alter DNA for generations to come. Exposure to tobacco does it, as does exposure to violence and the stress that comes with it.

Researchers with the Traumatic Stress Studies Division at the Mount Sinai Medical Center in New York City conducted a study to see how the violence and stress of 9/11 would affect the children of the estimated 1,700 pregnant women who were directly exposed to the World Trade Center attacks. Shortly after the attacks, researchers at Mount Sinai studied 38 pregnant women who were at or near the World Trade Center on 9/11, some of whom had developed PTSD. They took samples of saliva from the women, and measured the levels of cortisol, a stress hormone, in their bodies. Higher levels of cortisol in the body mean more stress, and vice versa.

The researchers found that the women with PTSD had significantly lower levels of cortisol in their saliva than women who were exposed to the attacks, but who did not develop PTSD. Around a year later, the researchers measured the levels of cortisol in the newborn children, and found that those born to mothers who had PTSD as a result of 9/11 had lower levels, than those born to mothers who were PTSD-free.

Basically, the researchers found that the children born of moms who were traumatized by the events of 9/11 were literally living with the results of their mothers’ pain and trauma. So, not only can our life experiences alter our genetic make-up, they can alter the genetic make-up of our offspring, and, as some studies have shown, even our grandchildren and great-grandchildren.

Think about that. Because of epigenetics, whenever there’s war, violence, poverty, famine or just about any other stressful situation, not only are our bodies changing, but those of future generations will, too.

That’s why it’s so important that we do everything possible to protect future generations by making the world work well today. For example, we must confront America’s racism and poverty epidemics head-on and start building a larger and more inclusive middle class, so that communities like Ferguson can leave the stress of poverty behind. At the same time, we need to be creating a safer world, free of major stressors like wars, violence, and militarized police occupations. Basically, we need to be working towards a more nurturing society.

According to the American Psychological Association, one-third of Americans suffer from extreme stress, whether it’s from exposure to traumatic events like 9/11, or exposure to a life of poverty. It’s time for our country to stop stressing out, and start protecting the lives of generations to come.


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leighmf 9 years 43 weeks ago

Holy cow!

Likely epigenetics was a known a concept to the Eugenics Society which in 1910 decided to sterilize the poor, epileptics, and those called "mental defectives." The society was heavily supported by Mrs. E.R. Harriman, a Bush ancestor.

It stands to reason that after failing to garner enthusiasm for mass-sterilizations across America, we may as well be subjected to the major stresses of WWI, The Great Depression, WWII, the atom bomb in general, The Korean War, segregation, assassination, the Viet Nam War, and increasing loss of nationally held wealth, such as our education system, national parks, health standards, and the figures said to be our national debt.

These major stresses were perpetrated to depress us and keep us down, like armed Pinkertons holding back a strike line. They facilitated the addictions which made fortunes for men of violence, of the brewers, bottlers, tobacco kings, and opium lords, because we just can't take it. What family has not been damaged through its generations of having to bear addiction, illness, violence, poverty, and destruction none of us want.

"The Old Families" know this well and that is how they maintain control of world wealth. They know the families that stick together rule together. Since they have intermarried to keep money, they are prone to insanity. By breaking up pioneer American families and the businesses and industries they built, and by exploiting native peoples of America and Hawaii, they have again overrun us and tyranny rules.

Nazi science was carefully preserved and brought to America for the Prescott Bush CIA to utilize. This is the place in American history I have found where the idealism of America was completely derailed. It happened in the transition from the OSS to the post-war Central Intelligence Agency of which George H.W. Bush became director in 1976. 1976 was a critical year for those who during the Great Depression were induced to purchase low-yield tax-free government securities. Many of the original investors were deceased by 1976, but the Treasury Notes of 1976 existed for paying estate tax in portfolios nationwide. They were culled out of trusts by lawyers and given to GHW Bush for secret money to move around the country.

I think we've all seen or thought one hand doesn't know what the other is doing in our security agencies, especially now that we have even another secret division of intelligence, Homeland Security. The reason is Bush, Bush, Bush, and before that Harriman, Rockefeller, and Robert Fleming, grandfather of Ian, all in bed thick as fleas with the London Counting Houses-

Ian Fleming could hardly rat out his own family, but he certainly made a lot of things clear in the James Bond Books, supplemented by Birds of the West Indies, 1961, by James Bond.

Not to mention that the Mob is Bank of America. That "Lincoln" companies are the former German American National Bank. Not to mention Berghoff, the famous brewer, was president of this bank in Indiana, and Hitler's Alpine retreat was named "Berghof."

We cannot stop the stress until the original trouble makers are rooted out for their past crimes and history is told aright. The damage they have done has to be defined and rectified, as if our whole nation was a Superfund Site.

DrRichard 9 years 43 weeks ago

Uh...James Bond and Ian Fleming were different people. Fleming got the name for his character from the author, whose bird book he liked. Otherwise I think you can find connections between everything, but not every connection really matters. Your points are also interesting but I doubt if Bush, Rockefeller and the rest are really that smart. Cold blooded opportunists maybe, sometimes (like the Kochs) driven by ideology, but not vast plotters on the scale of an--ahem--James Bond villain.

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John Steinsvold 9 years 43 weeks ago

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UNC Tarheels 9 years 43 weeks ago

Ferguson households had incomes below the federal poverty line of $23,492 in 2012.

That must be nice as a disabled veteran since it was a service related disability (I lost my right leg and right eye due to an IED). Thanks to Mitch "Moneybags " McConnell disabled vets can't draw veterans benfits checks at the same time if they are drawing SSI. I currently get $721 a month I had to sell my 1977 GMC truck since I could no longer drive a stick or afford the insurance. My point is that $721 is $8,652 yearly. The moral of the story is I'm poor and way below the poverty line. I'm not out stealing $50 box of cigars and getting upset because when the police find out they arrest the bad guys.

If you want to read two Supreme Court decisions.

Terry v Ohio (1968) -This case allows an officer to conduct a stop of a person or vehicle if there is reasonable suspicion that a crime is being committed, has been, or is about to be committed.

Pennsylvania v Mimms (1977)- this US Supreme Court ruling allows officers to order the driver and occupant out of the vehicle for safety reasons. " the safety of the officer greatly outweighs the inconvenience to the occupants of the vehicle."

Before I lost my leg I was a deputy sheriff and I worked in the military police. Something I cannot do with one leg and a glass eye.

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leighmf 9 years 43 weeks ago

I have already written extensively on James Bond, the Bird Book, The SAINT, and Flemings galore. I studied the Who's Who of Cryptology and American and Foreign Corporations more than 20 years. If I were you, I'd check the 1961 picture of James Bond, author, who was born in 1900, paying special attention to the hair.

I hate to put you through one of my tedious timelines, Doctor, but it is necessary to find the Roots of Evil. You don't have to be smart to be bad. But you do have to be smart to put the puzzle together. I will spare you many years of details, but don't think I don't have them.

If we are worried about our great-grandchildren, we should first understand what has been done to us since our great-grandparents time.

Starting with the Civil War, Robert Fleming made a fortune selling jute for sandbags to both sides. He obtained a jute monopoly in the U.S. and growing Cannabis sativa was forbidden as part of his exclusive on jute.

He assembled Scottish Widow's pensions into a trust fund called SAINT, Scottish American Investment Trust and brought it to the US to team up with Harriman and Krupp Steel to gain complete control of railways worldwide.


Dumb old Rockefeller, Andrews & Flagler organized in Cleveland


1/1/1868 Wells Fargo Bank Iowa, National Association 666 Walnut Street Des Moines,IA 50309 FDIC Certificate #: 4448 Date Established: 1/1/1868

10/10/1868 First mortgage of the South Carolina Railroad; subsequently bankrupt and foreclosed

The Corporation of foreign bondholders exchanged patents which forever united us to Krupp Steel and the SAINT (see Moody's Manual of Insurance and Banking); attendees included Harriman, Krupp, and U.S. Senators and Judges who were grantees of free Union Pacific RR stock


Credit Mobilier formed ; Weiner Bank, Vienna


Influential stockholders of Union Pacific RR organized the construction company Crédit Mobilier of America, and under Oakes Ames, a U.S. Representative, made contracts with themselves which depleted the congressional grants and left the railway heavily in debt.


Standard Oil was formerly organized by Rockefeller, Flagler et al. in 1889 - a one hundred year mortgage bond extended their debt to 1989 when Norfolk Southern Corporation had one big victorious merger.


After bankrupting for the second time and stripping off common stockholders once again, the Norfolk and Western Ry was re-organized and headed by Michael Valentine Fleming, father of Ian. The Norfolk & Western merged into Norfolk Southern.

Standard Oil founded the Natural Gas Trust.


Rockefeller, Harriman, et al. proposed the Eugenics Society, HQ San Francisco

Standard established a regional affiliate, Republic Oil in 1907. Republic Corp was later a film entity taken over by Krupp after he was released from prison.

1910- German American Trust Company formed with Straus Bros. whose correspondent was Commercial Bank of Switzerland, aka UBS


Dr. Alexis Carrel, a nobel prize winner, staff of the Rockefeller Institute, Man the Unknown proposed gas euthanasia of criminals and the insane

"Lord Moynihan, president of the Royal College of Surgeons, founded the Euthanasia Society"

Well, I really have to move on here, but the crux of it all is Standard Oil was never really disssolved in 1911. Harriman acquired then 3/20/1911 Harriman National Bank; originally Night & Day Bank 1906; acquired Liberty National Bank & Trust Company 4/8/1932;

Standard Oil was not dissolved but has become British Petroleum, a Royalist plan all along. Those dumb Royals too. In exchange, our millionaire senate enjoys perpetually benefits of Norfolk Southern Corporation along with many royalties from BLM and pilfered native American assets. That pact was made long ago, and those who benefit are sworn to secrecy- to never turn in a "brother" who commits a crime, even murder.

That is the crap we are fighting against and until the public has a long enough attention span to get a grip on the truth and stop acting like the world began with Reagan, the sheisters will always be hundreds of years ahead of us with their gold mortgage bonds and pyramided leases pooled in one bif fat US REIT. No lie.

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Palindromedary 9 years 43 weeks ago

Edwin Black has written many books, one of them being- "War on the Weak: Eugenics and America's Campaign to Create a Master Race". And Hitler marveled at the whole idea which set the underpinnings of his own Eugenics program.

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Aliceinwonderland 9 years 43 weeks ago

Tarheels, you overlook the fact that this kid in Ferguson was confronted by the police officer for jaywalking. The policeman knew nothing about any alleged cigar heist.

Regardless of that, last time I checked, neither jaywalking nor shoplifting were crimes serious enough to warrant the death penalty.

But that's American justice for ya! Trash the U.S. - or world - economy and skate free; steal a $50 box of cigars and spend years in the slammer... or die, without charge or trial. Beam me up! - AIW

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violinsensei 9 years 43 weeks ago

I am listening to the rebroadcaste of your show right now and I am being reminded of the stories my mother told me about working with urban children in St. Louis through the work the churches were doing, such as caravaning to suburban churches during the late 40s.

The housing these families were subjected to was so bad that she joined a work group that went in to help patch holes in the walls of the homes people were renting. Its no wonder they were thrilled with the possibility of living in public housing, even though it soon became a night mare for similar reasons of mismanagemnt. One reason my mother remembers this so well is that one result of her experience was coming down with hepatatitus after one of her visits.

These college age young people began helping the families in trapped in this housing organize to make the landloards repair the property. They soon descovered that no one was responsible becuase it was all owned by blind trust. When they finally got to the bottom of the blind trust issue they discovered that many of these rentals were owned by the local Cahtolic church. Because over the years their parisoners had left thier property to these large churches which didn't know how to manage things. A bit of a local scandal.

A number of the young people she met at that time and still keeps in touch with went on after that experience to join the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and march with MLK. I can't help but wonder what they are thinking now, understanding the history this region has with both racism and poverty.

It is difficult for most listeners to understand that this barn full of straw has a long history which goes back many generations. Every once in awhile someone acidentally drops some cinders on a pile of straw. I am impressed that young people are coming from as far away as California to join this community. That means we have straw tucked away in corners all over the country.

What a world of hurt this counry would be in right now if we did not have someone of the charactuer of President Obama in the white house. I can only pray that the Dept. of Justice gets this right. That does not mean that there is not plenty more to do and rethink about the system.

I think white people naively assume that they are safe around law enforcement. As a woman I think every encounter I have had with law enforcement is fraut with potential dangers. I have had some close calls when in the wrong place at the wrong time while the police were under similar time packed pressure and stress to make the right decision. Just becase I am white, I have no misunderstandings about this. It makes me anxious for the young people I work with.

Thank you for having the courage to provide the space needed for dialogue.

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leighmf 9 years 43 weeks ago

Thanks, Pal- I was trying to show the connection, without seeming too intellectually elite or too educated, or even too old, between those who were thwarted in their plan to sterilize and purify society and the onslaught of their fascist regime upon the psyches of our genetic predecessors. They were the banking propellers of Hitler's whole career and all directed the titan Austrian Credit Bank when other Austrian Banks failed, quickly allowing the change in power. Hitler's Eugenics came from those parties who financed him- it's what they believed back when Hitler was still a baby.

We in our generation have these traumas already working on us according to the theory of epigenetics. WE were dragged into these traumas unwillingly by perps. Some of us heard about War II and The Depression from parents or family members, but not very much. When I get to know someone, I always ask then what they heard from their parents about the past and it is astounding how much people have held back because they want to forget it. Many parents who were Holocaust survivors did not talk about it to their children. But the genetic memory is passed on. This is WHY we are wandering about at least half-bummed out- the more depressed we are the less energy we have to fight. And we have less money trying to keep up with the diseases which may be turned on by epigenetics.

We have to Heal Ourselves before we can change the world.

Here is another important eye-opening book: Feeble Minded in Our Midst by Scott Noll.

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Palindromedary 9 years 43 weeks ago

leighmf: Thanks for that link. Looks like something I would be very interested in reading! There is a whole history of the US that most people just don't realize happened. And, perhaps, they would be shocked. (maybe not) But for cognitive dissonance, they might have a totally new understanding of who they are and what our authorities have done to us.

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Palindromedary 9 years 43 weeks ago

canceled because of a double entry

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chuckle8 9 years 43 weeks ago

leighmf -- I do not think most of us think it started with Reagan. I think we realize that Reagan brought us back to what the New Deal and the Great Society saved us from.

Thank you for the details of the global 1%.

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chuckle8 9 years 43 weeks ago

John -- You do know that money was created for one purpose. That purpose was to collect taxes to pay for the commons.

The New Deal and the Great Society built the greatest economy the world has ever known. They created policies that worked in a capatilistic society.

The Lewis Powell memo shows how they destroyed that economy. It did not have much to do with cash.

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leighmf 9 years 43 weeks ago

Then let's at least go back to 1968- once RFK was out of the loop Apartheid fluorished, Krupp was made into a privately held corporation, and the wheels of Bank Holding Company legislation ran us over.

I provide these details from personal experience, corporate records, bank charters, and genealogy, but references also seem to back up my "connections."

From Wiki- "From 1960 to 1983, 3.5 million non-white South Africans were removed from their homes, and forced into segregated neighbourhoods, in one of the largest mass removals in modern history.[8] Non-white political representation was abolished in 1970, and starting in that year black people were deprived of their citizenship, legally becoming citizens of one of ten tribally based self-governing homelands called bantustans, four of which became nominally independent states. The government segregated education, medical care, beaches, and other public services, and provided black people with services that were often inferior to those of white people.[9]""

In 1969 many banks were illegally invested in corporations of their directors and other banks. Example, from California, Bank of America sold stock in Continental Illinois (the Marshall Field/Sears Roebuck bank) in Chicago, secured by homestead real estate. Is that a mortgage?

Because we don't look past Reagan, it is not picked up that Bank of America and Continental Illinois were the same mob controlled bank. Specifically, Continental is now Bank of America.

This wreaked havoc in many New Deal investment portfolios. Lawyers had a field day with heirs who didn't have millions of dollars and half a lifetime to fight what happened.This allowed a major shift of wealth to the 1% who work inside the government, from those who inherited New Deal government securities.

Lawyers had for years been trying to undo the restrictions of the Investment and Securities Act of 1940. This they finally got around to with multi-bank holding company legislation which passed in 1970. Bingo, Penn-Central went bankrupt, then the biggest bankruptcy in US history while stockholders in the Florida East Coast RY who had been waiting 38 years for a settlement received $.30 on the dollar.

Penn-Central was also the biggest government bailout up to the day and it turns out the bailout money disappeared into Liechtenstein where it was out of U.S. jurisdiction. This dough became fodder for the BCCI scandal and the failure of First American Bank in Washington DC. NOW we are in the Reagan years.

When multi-bank holding company legislation was passed in 1970 banks all over the country were able to merge their illegal branches into holding companies. This included insurance funds, REITs, travel agencies, bank building companies, agricultural and industrial assets that were shuffled in the deck and redistributed through mergers into multi-banks under a top holder. It was a real sneak around the law, and as well banks were able to add a secret $2,000,000 to their bottom line unseen by anyone but those who read Annual Decisions of the Comptroller along with the actual authorized stock on the books of the corporation.

The rollback point is 1970 when Freddie Mac was created following Pres. Johnson's sale of Federal National Mortgage Securities (mostly purchased during the New Deal) to private parties.

Tell me that 1970 didn't come back on us in 2008.....

Now 45 investment years have passed since the big Penn-Central Bank clean-up. This is why there is a small class so far ahead of the world that they control commerce. Rolling back to the 1980's will not change the facts or who controls Kitty Carlyle.

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chuckle8 9 years 43 weeks ago

leighmf -- Who is kitty carlyle? Is that another name for the Carlyle group?

Very interesting information, thanks.

I blamed the 2008 crash on the Commodities Modernization Act. It sounds like other factors may have been at work.

Larry Beinhart has correlated a weakrening in the economy due to cut of the top tax rate by Kennedy/Johnson.

$2,000,000 doesn't sound like much when American corporations have $2,000,000,000,000 sitting on the sidelines.

As Bernie and Thom keep saying the best weapon against all that wealth would be public financing of elections. That is, let us have an amendment that says money is not speech. With that amendment in place, we might be able to get a president to hyperbolically enforce the Sherman Anti-Trust Act.

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leighmf 9 years 43 weeks ago

Remember chuckle, when you launder money, you do it in small amounts and spread it around. Thousands of banks putting 2 million on the books adds up. And 2 million alone in 1970 is worth more now, especially in a mutual fund.

The same operation has controlled our chain store mergers to a precious few- what is better for cash than a supermarket? They use casinos, restaurants, moving and storage franchises, down to the level of pawn shops. I am talking organized crime from the top down. That is Kitty Carlyle,my nicname for the C-group based on the actress Kitty Carlyle who used to appear on To Tell the Truth.

That is an interesting point about 2008. The Keystone XL was first proposed in 2008. This is where money disappears, into pipeline mortgages, railroad mortgages, equipment leases, and failed banks.

A pipeline mortgage bond is a 50-year bond. That means in 2008, when Indymac and Fannie Mae crashed, mortgage bonds were issued for the Keystone Pipeline. I can trace the origin of the fund which put Keystone into Kitty Carlyle by going back in 50-year bond increments and seeing where money changed hands at that time. We can trace Keystone XL to 1858


7/30/1858 Death of Otto von Bismarck; here we can be sure of money changing hands

Toledo, Wabash and Western, former foreclosed 10/8/1858 and sold to Wabash & Western; i.e. money disappeared

Lake Erie, Wabash & St. Louis RR foreclosed ; i.e. money disappeared



2/10/1908 6% notes of Missouri Pacific due 2/10/1910- new debt created

Seaboard Air Line Atlanta-Birmingham 1st Mtg. 4% 30 yr gold bonds, Standard Trust Company, Bank of Scotland, agent (1908-1938) new debt created

-1938= Walt Disney Company incorporated + Fannie Mae created;

you will start to see a thread of consolidated Amusements, also cash enterprises, under the name of "Lincoln" which was The German American Trust Co., topholder of Theatre, Racetrack and Park Amusements from day 1.

7/1/1908 Norfolk and Southern Railway was put into hands of receivers for foreclosed mortgage owned by Trust Co. of America- money disappeared

FLORIDA CANAL ENLARGEMENT COMPANY Date: 05/25/1908 Status: GOOD State : CO- new debt was created; Canal bonds were once an important investment instrument.

You can see the threads coming together this early, as Disney wound up in Central Florida and there is a very strange thing going between Colorado and Florida.


1/25/1958 It was reported that New York Central railroad tycoon Robert R. Young committed suicide at his Palm Beach residence; this was due to his mental torture over the impending Penn-Cenntral bankruptcy which would wipe out thousands of widows and middle class stockholders. Young was wholly opposed to merging the New York Central with the Pennsy due to the Pennsy proxies, a bunch of Texas oilmen.

ZAPATA OFF-SHORE COMPANY 3/11/1958- GHW Bush founder
3/22/1958 Shamrock Oil; Shamrock, Disney, and Central Soya are multiple holders of the same asset

Speaking again of 2008, Don Powell was head of the FDIC when everything collapsed. He was the front men for the Shamrock/Amarillo group which includes William H. Trotter Bush et al. Bush appointed him. The first bank Powell worked in failed right after he left. He made a killing selling his Wells Fargo stock just before he accepted his appointment, Wells Fargo had a giant merger.

3/4/1958 3/10/1958 Dr Martin Luther King was a director in United American Life via International Opportunity Life Insurance Company; 12/21/1961 International Opportunity Life; Lincoln Memorial Life 3/17/1999; 12/15/1998 3/4/1999 was "World Service Life Insurance Company" of COLORADO

ARDC CORPORATION WALT DISNEY WORLD CO. 1675 BUENA VISTA DR., SUITE 535 LAKE BUENA VISTA FL 32830 Filed 10/23/1958; getting ready for Florida 12 years ahead of time

NPGL mtg end 7/1/1958-7/1/1978 and 11/1/1958-11/1/1978 7/01/1958 7/01/1978 1978- 11/01/1958- this is another pipeline mortgage. The NGPL was all wrapped up ion the ENRON debacle which came down in December after 9/11.

I may as well do the 2001 details, though I am dying to watch tv.

But one quick detour into something which formed when Shamrock, Disney, and Central Soya merged in 1985:

911 INTERNATIONAL KEYSTONE & ASSOCIATES Legal Name: 911 SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS INC Entity Address: PO Box 20276 , INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46220Creation Date: 4/8/1985 Inactive Date: 2/19/9999 Other Names for this Entity: Date Name (Type) 4/8/85 911 INTERNATIONAL KEYSTONE & ASSOCIATES (Assumed / Marion County)



12/02/2001 Enron bankrupt

HOLDING KEYSTONE, LLC Creation Date: 12/6/2001 Entity Inactive Date:

A holding entity shields the relationship of the Carlyle Group and the energy and pipeline companies from the public. Kinder Morgan's online asset map shows KM owned all the pipelines which were supposed to belong partly to Dynegy, Enron, and the banks which loaned Enron money.

Following 9/11, "Keystone Advance Planning" and "Holding Keystone" were incorporated. Following the February fund raiser at Richard Kinder's house, which our Florida Governor attended, the subsequent incorporation of "Empire Hotel Partners," "BDM Properties," and a Swiss Bank in Costa Rica makes me wonder if the Carlyle Group actually severed their relations with the bin Ladens. It would have been impossible for their entangled enterprises in hotels, realty, nursing homes, and major construction projects to have been severed so quickly and readily, considering the length of mortgage bonds.


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X-Drifter 9 years 43 weeks ago

It just occurred to me that if someone was in need of a job capable of supporting a family, these days without having to earn a degree from a reputable academy, one might try to get a job in law-enforcement. Granted, it may not be the most suitable job for everyone, just as are occupations such as doctor, lawyer and politician. But, without the necessary credentials, there aren't too many options left IN THIS COUNTRY.

It's possible, the police officer who shot Brown, might not have been well suited enough to cope with the kinds of stresses the job occasionally imposes, thus making him more apt to overreact to situations like the one he had on that notorious day. Add to that, more perceived threats to one's personal well-being by our news and entertainment media (so-called "terrorism", runaway Climate Change and diseases), popular music (Rap) & video games (Grand Theft Auto), the creators of which are mostly, only reacting to "what the public wants", so as to meet their $profit$ goals.

Unfortunately, those depictions to which we're exposed to DO leave lasting impressions on our perception of the "world around us", and subsequently how we behave within it, which, in turn, often affects how those around us react to our behavior.

I don't know.... maybe we're just witnessing another significant transition in the evolution of the human species. (;P)

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chuckle8 9 years 43 weeks ago

leighmf -- Thanks for all the details. Now your task is figure how to put it on a bumper sticker.

Google has no kitty carlyle they call her kitty carlisle which they point out as the person on to tell the truth.

No one seems to be discussing the very interesting difference between epigenetics and eugenics.

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leighmf 9 years 43 weeks ago

That's right, chuckle8, a bumper sticker would be handy, but where I live you can get shot on the interstate for just being you. It is the biggest problem, making what was intended to be an indetectable racket, which is ages old, into something everyone gets in one sentence, or even a short paragraph.

True, I was a child when Kitty and Tom Poston were stars of "To Tell the Truth" so I never noted the spelling of her name. They were both so absolutely smart and good at playing the game I have come to think they were post-war intel agents, for "the nice" side of Hollywood, in the aftermath of the Hollywood blacklists of writers and authors. Again, as of 1947 the CIA was two-faced, one face belonging to Prescott Bush who did not have America's best interests in mind. The other face, the real agents who thought they were serving their country, were kept out of Prescott's loop.

Well, you lead a horse to water...the fact is, we are living genetically embedded traumas of our ancestors and it is an impediment. The Eugenics Society of Harriman & Rockefeller wanted to rid the world of those who were "burdens" on society by causing their bloodlines to die out.

The rest of us just needed to be beaten into submission with images of mushroom clouds, fallout shelters, interment camps, and massive destruction of property. As a child I had anxiety about these things which didn't make sense. I did feel threatened that something bad could happen any moment, and when the 1960's came along, I was old enough to get my own dose of terror, firsthand, to pass along as anxiety to my offspring.
Now what are the children dealing with? They could be killed just by being in school.

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"In an age rife with media-inspired confusion and political cowardice, we yearn for a decent, caring, deeply human soul whose grasp of the problems confronting us provides a light by which we can make our way through the quagmire of lies, distortions, pandering, and hollow self-puffery that strips the American Dream of its promise. How lucky we are, then, to have access to the wit, wisdom, and willingness of Thom Hartmann, who shares with us here that very light, grown out of his own life experience."
Mike Farrell, actor, political activist, and author of Just Call Me Mike and Of Mule and Man
From Cracking the Code:
"No one communicates more thoughtfully or effectively on the radio airwaves than Thom Hartmann. He gets inside the arguments and helps people to think them through—to understand how to respond when they’re talking about public issues with coworkers, neighbors, and friends. This book explores some of the key perspectives behind his approach, teaching us not just how to find the facts, but to talk about what they mean in a way that people will hear."
to understand how to respond when they’re talking about public issues with coworkers, neighbors, and friends. This book explores some of the key perspectives behind his approach, teaching us not just how to find the facts, but to talk about what they mean in a way that people will hear."
From Screwed:
"I think many of us recognize that for all but the wealthiest, life in America is getting increasingly hard. Screwed explores why, showing how this is no accidental process, but rather the product of conscious political choices, choices we can change with enough courage and commitment. Like all of Thom’s great work, it helps show us the way forward."
Paul Loeb, author of Soul of a Citizen and The Impossible Will Take a Little While