And Gilmore makes 17...

You need to know this... Support for Donald Trump's campaign is still growing nationally, and in early primary states, but he's not just gaining support in early primary states. A new poll from Florida shows that Trump is leading Jeb by 6 percentage points - and he's leading Rubio by 16 points.

That's telling, because Jeb Bush served two terms as Florida's governor less than a decade ago, and Marco Rubio is currently Florida's junior senator. Not to mention how critical a swing state Florida has been in recent elections.

But even though he's leading the polls, beating the other 16 Republican candidates - yes there's 17 now - former Virginia Governor Jim Gilmore announced this morning - Trump apparently has yet to win over the Republican insiders. According to a new report from Politico, the Koch political machine is refusing to give Trump access to speaking events hosted by Koch shadow-groups like Americans for Prosperity and the Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce.

Trump has requested to speak at Koch events but he has been refused, whereas candidates like Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Scott Walker, and even Carly Fiorina have been invited to speak at the same events.

That might not hurt Trump's momentum though, because the media is happy to give him as much time to bloviate as he wants. But the Koch-backed political tech and polling data firm "i360" has also refused to allow Trump access to their extensive data sets. And in an age of never-ending polling and data driven campaigns, that could seriously hamper Trump's attempts to build a sustainable campaign with the support of the hard-right Republican base.

Many Republicans like Trump for his so-called "straight-talk" - and that could be hurting Christie's "Tell it like it is" campaign. But many Republican insiders seriously question how he plays with the party establishment - especially in light of his comments about former Republican presidential candidate John McCain not being a real war hero.

Nonetheless, it seems like some Republican voters are itching to support a self-owned outside-the-beltway blowhard who doesn't need donations from other billionaires. As the campaign carries into 2016, the real question is: who will end up owning the Republican base - the billionaire Koch network or the billionaire Donald Trump?


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mathboy 8 years 46 weeks ago

Annuities were popular in Thomas Payne's era. Since they were paid for the life of the beneficiary, people often bought them for their children. That's probably why Paine thought it would be a good idea for everyone to have an annuity from birth. The uncertainty in life expectancy (not just its variability, but also the difficulty in developing the math of statistics at the time) is probably why they fell out of favor and governments now issue bonds, which pay out for a particular amount of time, whether the original beneficiary has died or not.

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mathboy 8 years 46 weeks ago

The EmDrive looks like it's probably BS or just useless. All the tests have produced less than 1 newton of thrust (equal to the weight of 0.1 g in Earth gravity). And this article is a year old.

Former astronaut Franklin Chang Diaz has been working on a plasma drive (VASIMR) that achieves a high exhaust velocity, which means a lot less fuel would need to be carried for a mission, which has an exponential effect.

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sandlewould 8 years 46 weeks ago

Taking advantage of anything goes Friday.

Bernie reports that CNN’s latest poll projects Bernie handily beating the lead Republicans whereas Hillary is trailing them. We MUST get Bernie nominated. Debbie Wasserman-Schults knows exactly what she’s doing, so does the Hillary campaign. Corporate Dems would rather have ANY republican than Bernie Sanders. I predict there will be no democratic debates if at all possible, despite the rhetoric promising them. If they are forced to debate, it will be heavily controlled and watered down. If Hillary takes the same positions as Bernie on the issues, it will be strictly rhetorical. I think it would be astoundingly naive to presume her progressive rhetoric sincere after candidate v. president Bill Clinton and then candidate v. president Obama’s stark contrasts in rhetoric as compared to policy. Hillary is projecting the air that it really doesn’t matter how, or even if she campaigns. If push comes to shove, there’s always electronic election fraud. Any Michon, MI5 whistle blower, when interviewed by Abby Martin, discussed how British intelligence, as well as NSA and corporate security contractors reroute internet traffic in order to control poll results and even elections. Obviously, we must vote for Hillary if she is the nominee, but I feel in my gut that the multi-national corporate security contractors together with the rest of the oligarchs will install whom they want. If the TPP passes, it may not matter. I realize this sounds hyperbolic, but if corporations can sue to have minimum wage laws repealed, what’s to stop them from being able to sue over having to pay any wage? -or having any protections for what will become a planet of slaves?

Thom once remarked on how he likes to catch up on the news on weekends. Maybe he should binge watch At this point, I consider all american commercial media and NPR a waste of time.

I really think it’s our civic duty, especially those with a microphone, not to smear, but to speak honest truth to power during the primary, while we still have a chance. Remember the Honduran coup that led to the women and children refugee crisis at our boarder? Amy Goodman: “While the United States publicly supported Zelaya’s return to power, newly released emails show Clinton was attempting to set up a back channel of communication with Roberto Micheletti, who was installed as Honduran president after the coup. In one email, Clinton referenced lobbyist and former President Clinton adviser Lanny Davis. She wrote, "Can he help me talk w Micheletti?" At the time, Davis was working for the Honduran chapter of the Business Council of Latin America, which supported the coup. In another email, Thomas Shannon, the State Department’s lead negotiator for the Honduras talks, refers to Manuel Zelaya as a "failed" leader.”

In a related story from Amy Goodman “"Deplorable": Federal Judge Condemns For-Profit Texas Detention Centers for Immigrant Families”

According to Lee Fong, these same for profit prison lobbyists are also Hillary's biggest bundlers.


“This is Child Abuse: Social Worker Breaks Silence over Conditions Inside Immigrant Detention Center”


Salon: Hillary Clinton sold out Honduras: Lanny Davis, corporate cash, and the real story about the death of a Latin American democracy.

Also, I’d love to see David Sirota on Thom’s program to discuss the following objectively.Truth Dig published an excellent expose by David of Hillary’s SD’s 165 billion in arms deals to 20 nations some of whom had civil rights records well below the standards set by a 1995 directive designed to keep arms out of the hands of despots. (ISIS, anyone?) Many of these nations and defense contractors also contributed to the Clinton Foundation and paid lucrative fees to Bill for speeches he gave.

To me, the circular firing squad only applies if insiders take pot shots at insiders and outsiders at outsiders, not when those responsible for choosing a candidate for a job raise legitimate concerns about a given candidate. As a registered Democrat, I would sooner vote for a progressive republican (if one existed) than a corporate Dem. Principals are more important than party. The Democratic party is split. We can’t be so afraid of the ultimate Republican evil that we cling to the lessor of 2 evils. I would hate to see an insider with progressive principals sacrifice their integrity and shirk their civic duty to speak truth to power just to maintain their insider status. Like Mike Pap said recently on the Big Picture; “…eventually, you just have to stand for something.”

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Vaughn B 8 years 46 weeks ago

The Oligarchy must fall but in order to do that a political revolution must occur. Ostensibly young people have to energy, courage and time yet at the recenet nationwide Bernie meetups at least within our area here in Washington state the demographics were as diverse as they come from young and old, to latino, black, asian and yes white, working, retired, students, married, single, divorced and even former republicans.

Enough is enough, and perhaps now at this desparate time in our history of corporate control of our government will the efforts of the 1.2 million current Bernie volunteers rise to many more millions in all 50 states to establish that political revolution to thrust Bernie into the Presidency and continue supporting him to overturn Citizens United, institute single payer healthcare, equal pay for women, stronger unions, bring back manufacturing to the U.S., repair our infrastructure, wipe out student debt and establish free college tuition to those that can qualify for scholastically, uphold planned parenthood, make this country 100% energy independent from fossil fuels, and institute Glass-Stegal, breaking up big banks, big pharma, big oil, big insurance. How about funding PBS and NPR, our National Science Foundation, NASA and return America once again to it's true heritage not based on arrogance and ego, but do it because it's the right thing to do.

douglas m 8 years 46 weeks ago

Its either Donald or Bernie that will win overall.
Hopefully Bernie. He has a heart.
Donald is too much business and not a people person.
Just an opinion. Miss Hillary superpac lady is a not likeable,
Again all money and no heart . We will see.

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stopgap 8 years 46 weeks ago

The Republican Presidential Campaign has come down to nothing more than 17 rightwing fascist bigot idiots trying to OUT STUPID each other.

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ChristopehrCurrie 8 years 46 weeks ago

The reason Trump is outpolling the other Republican presidential candidates is precisely BECAUSE he doesn't need to "kow tow" to the morally depraved wishes of the Koch Brothers, Wall Street banksters, or any other billionaire. The rest of the Republican field of presidential candidates (and the RNC) are little more than "mindless avatars" of those millionires and billionaires. So it appears that even 20 percent of our nation's right wing Republican voters are fed up with politicians who have clearly "sold their souls to the highest bidder."

dianhow 8 years 46 weeks ago

I stand for the dying middle class I stand for fair wages & integrity in gov't I stand for taking great care for our veterans I stand for repealing Citizens United asap. I stand for bringing back Glass Steagal I stand for common sense regulations on Wall St fraudelant greedy banks I stand for a transaction charge on ' default swaps'. I stand for breaking up Wall St banks TOO Massive to Exist . I stand for more funding of public eduation Its an investment in our childrens future and US economy. I stand for getting rid of most lobbyists and NOT allowing retiring politicians to become lobbyists and use what they learned to screw the taxpayer. I stand for NO wars and bringing most of our GI 's home from all over the globe. let other countries protect themselves Its their turn Make Billlionaires, huge corps pay a bit more taxes, and repeal 50 % of corp loopholes & subsides. Jail thiose who lie, cheat ,committ fraud Then maybe we the people can respect gov't ' public servants ' again & think our vote counts !! I feels more like we are their 'servants ' Politicians receive great pension even after just a few years, fringe benefits, keeping their 'campaign ' cash, having an 'expense account, traveling globally, making millions on lobbying, speaking fees, books...People work hard Millions lose their pensions..then what do we do to get by ?

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Aliceinwonderland 8 years 46 weeks ago

Cartoon character oligarch versus toxic clown oligarch... Whup-ti-friggin' do.

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terryj730 8 years 46 weeks ago

I know Thom believes we need to also support Hillary even if we want Bernie to win. I do not agree with you saying Hillary is progressive, I think she is way inside, far more than.Bill was. I live in Portland, Oegon and I recall hearing about Hillary Clinton and Vera Katz,.when she was an OR legislator, asking all the major corporations what skills graduates needed to possess to be good employees. The answer was something like; "Employment units must have the following 5 skills, be able to operate a keyboard, a calculator and the remaining 3.were behavior related, like working in a team and able to go along with the conscientious of the group...This was part of the Carnegie Group when she was governor' s wife. I wanted to tell you about his and while looking for when this happened i found a letter wrtten to Hillary right after bill was elected as President, on Nov. 11, 1992 from National Center on Education nd the Economy written by Marc Tucker..This letter was put into The Congressional Record on Sept. 17, 1998.
After reading this letter in it's entirety I believe Thom will have a different view of Hillary. It begin with...Dear Hillary, I still cannot believe you won. But utter delight that you did pervades all the circles in which I move....
He goes on about the Rockefeller's and the subject they were discussing was what you and Bill should do now about education, training, and the labor arket policy. "Our purpise inbthese meetings was to propose concrete actions that the Clinton administration could take between now and inaugration, in the first 100 days and beyond."
This is a very lengthy letter that states many House and Senate Bills in places and what needs to be done, "to advance the agenda on which you and we have all been working..."
I really hope after Thom reads this and takes a minute to check out Marc Tucker and his background maybe you can discuss his on your show? And, please Thom, if I am wrong and misunderstood this letter I really want to know your thoughts. I value your opinion and look forward to hearing back re this letter
Thank You,

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charell 8 years 46 weeks ago

On the demise of "Left" programing on MSNBC...
I haven't heard anyone discuss what happened to Current TV.
I think when Current TV's programing got too Progressive, insider Al Gore decided to silence those voices by selling it to Al Jazeera.

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chuckle8 8 years 46 weeks ago

Charell -- That would be an interesting discussion. I told myself that Current TV was losing money, and Al Gore was offered $20 million by Al Jazeera. Al Gore probably did not have enough money to keep Current TV running at a loss and could see no future where Current TV would make money. Murdock was able to afford a $100 million a year loss for 5 years and saw a future for that large investment i.e. billionaires would pay large to run their propaganda.

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mathboy 8 years 46 weeks ago

terryj730, I have no problem with government trying to coordinate education with employment. That's exactly what I would do if I were the secretary of education. I've talked about it before. It would help people get better jobs, find what they want to do for a living sooner, and let businesses do their jobs better.

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