Right-Wing Billionaires Have a Project to Rewrite Our Constitution, and They Are Shockingly Close to Pulling It Off


Imagine if the U.S. Constitution barred the EPA and Department of Education from existing. All union protections are dead, there are no more federal workplace safety standards, and even child-labor laws are struck down, along with a national minimum wage.

Imagine that the Constitution makes it illegal for the federal government to protect you from big polluters, big banks and even big food and pharma - all are free to rip you off or poison you all they want, and your only remedy is in state courts and legislatures, because the Constitution prevents Congress from doing anything about any of it. The federal government can't even enforce voting or civil rights laws.

To add injury to insult, the federal government has to shut down Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, because all of these programs (along with food stamps, housing supports and any programs that help the middle class, the less fortunate or disabled) are "beyond the reach" of what the federal government can do.

A few years ago, it would have been a thought experiment; now it's nearly reality. Billionaires and the groups they fund are working to rewrite our Constitution to provide corporations and the rich with more and more protections and benefits, and chop away at anything smelling of "socialism" like Social Security or child labor laws.

The fact is that they're just a few states away from meeting their goal, and have already held dress rehearsals in Washington D.C. - with representatives from all 50 states - for a Constitutional Convention that would change America forever.

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mrohrer 5 years 14 weeks ago
#1

this is very scary !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Jim Irwin 5 years 14 weeks ago
#2

They will not be able to do it. NEVER!

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wmleidy 5 years 14 weeks ago
#3

thom's book, the crash of 2016, alludes to revolutionary cycles in american history at roughly 80 years. with america's last in the early 1930s, we are well overdue for the next revolution. an attempt to change the constitution would hopefully be the spark this complacent nation needs to ignite the fire. god knows trump is the gasoline and congress is the deadwood.

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wmleidy 5 years 14 weeks ago
#4

thom's book, the crash of 2016, alludes to revolutionary cycles in american history at roughly 80 years. with america's last in the early 1930s, we are well overdue for the next revolution. an attempt to change the constitution would hopefully be the spark this complacent nation needs to ignite the fire. god knows trump is the gasoline and congress is the deadwood.

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Old Kel 5 years 14 weeks ago
#5

Steady on. This shall be the beginning of the end of billionaire selfish negative influence. A spiritual awakening to the plight of the planet's habitability will fall upon the constitutional convention...much to the billionaires di$may. Trump's election has lead to several realizations regarding the lengths he'll go to for publicity...like telling the press they don't know how to do their job, which, regrettably, they did not during the election campaign. Let us pray that the eyes of the press are open and clear, and may God bless the planet with peace so that we may work as with one heart.

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Hephaestus 5 years 14 weeks ago
#6

What mystifies me is how the rich appear to believe and delude themselves they are beyond death

Is the only reason for wealth to possess for its sake?

It can not be taken away into another realm

In the future it is very unlikely that it will have an ability to be bequeathed

Total worldwide economic failure will render wealth and money totally worthless

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Uncle Draggi 5 years 14 weeks ago
#7

...Far, =far= too many people willingly, -gleefully- put Trump in office -- you can bet your sweet ass billionaires could pull off something like this!! Self-delusion does no one any good.

...That being said, I have a couple of -serious- questions for folks to think about and (hopefully) post their conclusion here for the rest of us to think about.

.......1. Who, =exactly=, are these so-called "right-wing billionaires", besides the Koch brothers. Do they live in a particular part of the country, or live all over the place?

.......2. This is not the first place I have read something like this .. unfortunately. Equally as bad, I haven't heard =ANY=one= come up with a serious -or- viable solution or remedy for any of it .. no, -not- -a- -thing-! Sooo .. what =can= be done about these bastards?? We -know- there are =plenty= of politicians, at -all- levels, who will gleefully sell out for a price, and without even considering the consequences to "the common person". While declaring "open-(hunting-)season" on these bastards might make us 'feel good', it really wouldn't do much, positively, for two reasons:

...........a. Reich-wing extremist fools -already- are looking for -any- excuse to begin a "genocide" {their term} against anyone they consider a "libtard" .. and we already know 'thinking', especially '-critical- thinking' or '-long-term- thinking', is not the strong point of these people. Even worse, when they are then =PROVEN= to be =catastrophicly= wrong, they will look you right in the eye and either deny what happened and/or -excuse- it!! ((I have a distant (but not distant enough!) relative like this.))

...........b. Far too many police departments -and- =courts=, both large and small, have -already- been subborned(sp?) to 'protect' =any=thing- the billionaires do or say. Unless we literally have a second "Civil War", who in 'authority' is going to pay any attention to something "the common people" say or want?!

...

P.S. There is a blind woman in (Bulgaria??) who is considered a bona-fide psychic .. at least to the extent that an eeriely and frighteningly number of things she's predicted have been accurate to a fair-thee-well. One prediction she made recently/in the last few months, is that Obama would be the last President of the United States. It didn't make =any= sense when she said it .. but now I'm beginning to wonder.......

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Hephaestus 5 years 14 weeks ago
#8

Uncle Draggi - The word 'president' can be held to have many meanings

President pro tempore can be applied to the current incumbent

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deepspace 5 years 14 weeks ago
#9

Uncle Draggi:

They live all around us but hide themselves in bright shiny objects like luxury cars, private jets, and glass towers. "littlesis" is fairly current and is a good research source. "theyrule" isn't updated but has pretty cool tools to play around with. The strange world of wealth and power is a gigantic spider web of corruption and cronyism.

http://www.littlesis.org/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udlyqGFW9Ps

http://www.theyrule.net/

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2950-10K 5 years 14 weeks ago
#10

Plain and simple....Fascism has taken root because right- wing billionaires like Murdoch and the Kochs control the message. For christ sakes, the Teabaggers still think they're a patriotic grassroots movement. They still haven't figured out that the big government they've been programmed to hate would actually work in their favor if their own Tea Party founders, the right-wing billionaires, would get the hell out of the way of we the people.

Without Fox News and the Tea Party, the Constitutional Convention wouldn't even be on the radar.

This country is headed for complete disaster and much of the rest of the world knows it better than us because they get the GD truth in their news.....networks like the BBC and Al Jazeera.

If anyone thinks Putin isn't an immediate threat to this country , you have your head where the sun doesn't shine. I'm telling you, Putin is well aware that Trump and those he surrounds himself with are complete idiots... and don't think for a minute Putin won't take advantage and manipulate them. Our FBI and CIA look so damn pitiful now....Putin really kicked them in the balls good. I still remember how they were going to retaliate for the the Russian participation in the election fraud.....yeah right! ...Comey freaking helped Putin achieve his goal.

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DFMM 5 years 14 weeks ago
#11

Billionaires can pull it off.

Those who think the billionaires can't rewrite the Constitution should consider that everybody thought Trump could never win the primary much less the general. As Thom has recommended, people should read "Dark Money;" I am only part way through it and it's an eye-opener. The billionaires and their fathers have been working at controlling things for 60+ years; they play long term and just about everyone else has not/does not. Sure the billionaires are going to die off someday, but the thing is, part of their plan is to win new converts and to perpetuate their ideology --- many if not most of the current crop of billionaires are descendants of the founders of extreme ideology, or robber barons, or war profiteers. The most zealous ones seem to come from dysfunctional upbringings, are sociopaths, and think that they are self-made despite having inherited wealth or gained their wealth through unscrupulous or predatory means. Also, despite benefiting from corporate welfare and government contracts; they think of government as an evil that should be be greatly reduced in size and power. And guess who they think should fill the vacuum?

As for how to stop the billionaires from pulling it off; it doesn't look good. Our systems are massively broken; the executive, legislative, and judicial branches are either owned, cowed, or neutered by the oligarchs; checks and balances are not functioning effectively --- under Trump the government is stacked with oligarchs or those who have bought into their ideology. The media and the people should be the backstop when checks and balances fail; but guess who controls the media? As for the people, not much help there; this is a dumbed-down country with a 6-month memory span and a soundbite attention span; they don't get why things are going wrong much less what should be done. And when I say dumbed-down; I don't mean stupid; even many intelligent and well-educated people are apathetic, uninformed, misinformed, uninvolved, not exercising critical thinking. Consequently they are swayed by propaganda. The Dems are not going to be much help on that score, they don't seem to know that part of why they lose ground is that they lose the propaganda and messaging wars --- I'm not even sure that they know there is a propaganda war much less how to fight back effectively. In 2004 I read Bill Clinton's book "My Life," and he mentioned how in the 1994 midterm Newt Gingrich came up with a list of 2 and 3-word labels for Republicans to use against their opponents in campaigns. I thought "OMG, the Dems are still being beaten with a 10-year-old tactic." 20+ years later the Dems still don't get it, they are still using outdated strategy and are still being beaten by the same tactic. Think of how labels like liberal media, fuzzy math, liberal elite, flip-flop, death panels, and crooked Hillary; have been used to effect. BTW have you noticed that the demonization of the ACA has switched from "death panels," to "death spiral"?

Dan, San Diego

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deepspace 5 years 14 weeks ago
#12

Can you imagine how many right-wing pinheads would be exploding: if Bernie or Hillary stole the election with Interstate Crosscheck yet lost the popular vote by a historic margin; if their campaigns were in constant contact with Putin's operatives while his cyberspys hacked the RNC and selectively leaked internal communications; if Comey had revealed false evidence of an already closed investigation against Trump five days before the election at the same time that the CIA withheld actual evidence against his opponent of potential collusion with Russia; if a Democratic president refused to release tax returns and had uncountable conflicts of interest scattered all over the planet; if he or she cost the taxpayers ten million every week to play golf at a luxury resort in Florida they owned; if they stacked the cabinet with greedy Wall Street billionaires and warmongering generals; if they insulted our allies stupidly and provoked our enemies unnecessarily; if they repeatedly lied to the American people every day and blamed everyone but themselves for their amateurish mistakes; if they were shameless bigots and pushed racist policies; if they caused the death of a Navy SEAL by authorizing impromptu a foolhardy raid, blamed the generals, and then used his widow to score political points in an address to Congress?

Can you imagine the fire and brimstone? Where are all those morally outraged Benghazi/email zealots now?

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deepspace 5 years 14 weeks ago
#13

Absolutely! "Dark Money " by Jane Mayer is essential reading!

Another excellent eye-opener about how billionaire money ties into our completely corrupted electoral process is "Dollarocracy" by John Nichols and Bob McChesney.

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Dianereynolds 5 years 14 weeks ago
#15

Visible proof that tin foil hat wearing fear mongers haven’t stopped casting crumbs of hate for their minions to collect and mash with their tears for their morning porridge.

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di 5 years 14 weeks ago
#16

Thom, if I were lucky enough to sit next to you on a plane, I wouldn't read, play with my phone....nothing!

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k. allen 5 years 14 weeks ago
#17

I'm asking a serious question. What becomes of those who have no home, or nowhere to stand? What choices will be open to folks who lack financial or family support - especially elders and the young?

Are we about to see sex related industries emerge from the shadows?

A lot of young people seem to find their way onto that stage ... should we accept/endorse it? Why China? Is this the open door of opportunity for young women here and there? That would be nothing new in my world. Is it likely to change, or are we going to exploit it, along with natural and Human Resources considered to be open territory to satiate burgeoning consumer appetites?

You talk like you've been around the block, Diane. So, maybe you can reassure me that my concerns are unfounded? I'm wondering how many of those "three additional Supreme Court Justices, 15 Federal Appeals Court judges, and 115 other judges" are likely to be in - or out - of ((whose)) pocket ... seriously.

Can you help clarify? I would appreciate it.

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leighmf 5 years 14 weeks ago
#18

All this gives me heartburn.

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Dianereynolds 5 years 14 weeks ago
#19

k.allen: I can’t begin to reassure you your fears are not well founded. I suspect many of those same fears were imbedded in the brains of the thousands of immigrants that poured into this country one hundred forty years ago. They were an industrious bunch and managed to sort things out. Enabling and encouraging people not attempt to help themselves contributes to the denigration of society. Lefties rave about LBJ and his war on poverty. Great job Lyndon. Encourage men to leave the household so the single mother could collect more welfare money. Generations of young men raised in a single family environment. What a shame.

I suspect many true liberal and conservative radio junkies have become dependent, hanging on every word their host speaks. When I am doing some mindless task I will turn on the radio and switch channels between the right and left. Limbaugh and Hartmann come on in the same time slot. Regardless of who is in office, there is a huge contrast in their delivery style. Limbaugh is more of a comedian and Hartmann continuously dwells in the negatives. Thom bases his show on the “what if” and although many here swallow his every word, open your mind. As I type this Thom is ranting on Rubio and the "risk corridors" and he is not all that factual.

I have learned to moderate and filter the advice of either of the two but negative people usually are only on for comic relief and then, only for an hour or so. I believe generating and continually pushing fear was a huge factor in the election of President Trump. The American people are sick and tired of that tripe.

As for the judges, I want judges in place that will follow the constitution period. We have far too many judges making law not following the law. President Trump will do a lot to correct that situation.

Please also understand I am a foil to those here who still cannot sleep over their defeat and spend their time with a thesaurus in their lap as they type their vitriol.

My best to you. You seem like a rational person with good questions.

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Arrgy 5 years 14 weeks ago
#20

Behind the curtain, this is what the Federalist Society is up to. Their purpose is to destroy our Constitution. http://www.fed-soc.org/aboutus/

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k. allen 5 years 14 weeks ago
#21

Dianereynolds (#19)

I use Thesaurus ... it's a good writing tool, especially for trimming the vitriol into more palatable phrasing.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. And thank you for the link. I'm pretty sure Thom appreciates being fact checked. I've been listening to his show for a while now. Sometime within the last couple of years, some folks started saying "the left" needs a media icon like Limbaugh or Hannity/Beck.

I go, "Why?!" I don't identify as "right" or "left" - that framing is two dimensional, mono-minded, and does not begin to provide ground for in depth examination and real solution building. It engenders a cattle chute mentality and sets people against each other based on mutual misunderstanding and mistrust. Not helpful.

Coalage keeps bringing that up, along with repeated reprisals of the "we-won-you-lost-get-over-it" meme which seems like a complete waste of time, and empty argument to me - like a tug of war with no rope. What are you guys pulling on, anyway?

Thin air?

Whatever his reasons, it seems like Thom's trying to fill the role.

I once heard Beck expound on how it's not so easy to just talk off the top of your head for several hours in a row, day after day. I thought, is that what he's doing? Well, no wonder .... and Limbaugh is his idol?

Limbaugh may be a certain kind of funny ... I do not find him entertaining or amusing. I have to remind myself that this person, also, is part of the body of life, and the human family. Which part, I cannot say. This son of an immigrant family who MADE IT REALLY BIG IN AMERICA has earned his bragging rights, no doubt.

It's all verbal diarrhea to me. If those folks have taught me anything, it is that I do NOT want to be like them - not one way, or another.

I object to a number of positions Thom takes. Still, I give him the benefit of doubt - he is under a lot of pressure ... kind of like sleeping on a bed of nails and walking on a bed of hot coals at the same time ... hoping at least some of it is only a dream.

... even if it is "The Impossible Dream."

I wonder if he feels like the fisherman in Steinbeck's "Old Man And The Sea". He goes out in his little skiff, looking for his daily catch, and hooks a _giant_ marlin that drags him way, way out to sea.

After an endless battle, the old man wins. He straps the big fish to the skiff, and sets out for home. Along the way, he is besieged by sharks who savage most of the marlin by the time the worn out old man finally reaches home shores.

I think Thom might be going through the long row home about now.

(((Thom, Louise, all you folks, whatever you face in these times, I keep you - and all of us ((and them too)) in a place of peace and good health and living well ... call it a prayer if you will.)))

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k. allen 5 years 14 weeks ago
#22

(Dianereynolds - #19)


"k.allen: I can’t begin to reassure you your fears are not well founded. I suspect many of those same fears were imbedded in the brains of the thousands of immigrants that poured into this country one hundred forty years ago."

... and probably still are ... in fact, I would not be surprised to know those same fears are roiling around in the brains of many people today ... what you often refer to as "hair on fire?"

So, why is it fun to ridicule others for their fears?

It's one thing to laugh at your own pain. It can help you survive it. I think it is quite another to mock the suffering of others.

I would be grateful to know people here can get past the petty bickering and insult-festing to really look at different views for what they are ... whether or not we agree, let's look at what the differences are, and why it matters? We might find areas we can agree and make real progress between us. That would be Christmas morning for me.

Can we do that?


"They were an industrious bunch and managed to sort things out."

That's a bit panoramic for me - doesn't begin to break it down.

Did you know the word "industry" shares a common root stemming from the word "love?" So really, industry is about devoting yourself to working with your whole heart and soul for what you love - no matter what.

(That is the mark of a true professional - not the full-figured income.)

So, how did that same word come to mean the regimented world of the military-industrial complex with its adornments of factory farms, polluting smokestacks and waste deposits, time clocks, production lines, long hours, starvation wages, prisons and psych wards for those who don't like it that way ... so much poison ... so little love and respect for the body of life itself?


"Enabling and encouraging people not attempt to help themselves contributes to the denigration of society."

That is a loaded statement. When people see no way to help themselves other than to proceed at the expense of others, that contributes to the denigration of society as well. That would apply to corporate welfare that supports executive incompetence and administrative waste, as well as prisons that employ people for little or no pay, with no effort at habilitation; an economy that allows for wage slavery and little more, opening the door for criminal behaviors and the industries they sustain ... apparently, where we find ourselves today ... so, we are tested, and channeled according to our works.

... except, the new wave of All-American Greatness will usher in new jobs for everyone ... and, lots of love ...? Ok ... do you really want to wait and see how that one works out? I doubt that I would have survived with any small measure of independence without government support.

I hope it will prove to be a worthy investment.

Single parent homes? Not optimal, for sure. Still, are they any worse than single family homes ruled by petty deities in the bodies of men?


"I believe generating and continually pushing fear was a huge factor in the election of President Trump. The American people are sick and tired of that tripe."

It seems to me, if people are sick of that tripe, they also are addicted to it ... and I have to ask, who benefits from enabling that dependency - right or left?


"As for the judges, I want judges in place that will follow the constitution period. We have far too many judges making law not following the law. President Trump will do a lot to correct that situation."

Aside from "The Law" being anything but simple, or uniform throughout the culture - therefore screaming for positive change - the people appointed to adjudicate and execute "The Law" are human ... therefore, capable of error and misjudgment. Some, if not many of these players have areas in their personal lives that are ... well, let's just say, sensitive ... not that many are immune to manipulation.

So far, I see no indication that judges appointed by Trump will be any more reliable than those we have today - not that they are all so good. If anything, they will be relied upon to play on Trump's team - or not at all.


"Please also understand I am a foil to those here who still cannot sleep over their defeat and spend their time with a thesaurus in their lap as they type their vitriol."

Diane, one dose of vitriol is as sour as the next. Maybe if these folks take off their tin foil hats, and you lay down your foil, we can turn the page and proceed with relevant, meaningful exchange.

I would like that.

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k. allen 5 years 14 weeks ago
#23

(leighmf - #18)
"All this gives me heartburn."

... heaven ... earth ... breath of life ...

one breath at a time .... be peace ....

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Dianereynolds 5 years 14 weeks ago
#24

k.allen:

Lot's of stuff to digest. You are correct in your comment the left needs an icon like Limbaugh or Hannity. I don't believe Thom Hartmann will never fill that roll. It has to be someone with a sense of humor, that does not constantly repeat themselves, and bring on guests that actually get a chance to make their point before being talked over, potted down, or cut off entirely. They would also need to have a sense of bravado and self importance that bonds them to their audience. Thom has a list of repeated points that are wrong or twisted and completely ignore the influence of advances in technology when they took place. One example, he will never change his Rubio risk corridor comments because he can't wrap his head around the facts surrounding the disaster that is/was obamacare. It is easier for him to believe what he says and his audience laps it up as facts.

Give Tucker Carlson a watch. He may be a model your side needs to copy. He is often wrong, makes facial expressions that drive me nuts, but at the end of the interview he usually manages to net a win. I know he is in Rachel Maddow's time slot but after last nights show she may be wearing a bag over her head for the rest of her time on television. Last night she made Geraldo Rivera's Al Capone safe opening on national TV actually look like an important event.

As for those "industrious immigrants" I spoke of from 140 years ago, when they came to America they wanted to assimilate. Todays immigrants come in and all too many insist on changing American culture to that of the country they immigrated from. Big difference.

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k. allen 5 years 14 weeks ago
#25

Diane, I know this thread is closing, but I think you may have misunderstood what I said. So, let me take a minute to break it down.


(Dianereynolds - #25)
"You are correct in your comment the left needs an icon like Limbaugh or Hannity. I don't believe Thom Hartmann will never fill that roll."

I should have pared those posts down so you could see what I was saying. Here, let me repost what I actually said ... I think, as a stand alone, you might hear it differently:


(k. allen - #22)
"Sometime within the last couple of years, _some folks_ started saying "the left" needs a media icon like Limbaugh or Hannity/Beck."

"I go, "Why?!"


"I don't identify as "right" or "left" - that framing is two dimensional, mono-minded, and does not begin to provide ground for in depth examination and real solution building. It engenders a cattle chute mentality and sets people against each other based on mutual misunderstanding and mistrust.


"Not helpful."

"Coalage keeps bringing that up, along with repeated reprisals of the "we-won-you-lost-get-over-it" meme which seems like a complete waste of time, and empty argument to me - like a tug of war with no rope. What are you guys pulling on, anyway?

Thin air?"

"... It's all verbal diarrhea to me. If those folks have taught me anything, it is that I do NOT want to be like them - not one way, or another."

In short, I think Thom would be wasting his time trying to fill that roll, and I do not think people of "the left" need bombastic, fact free, partisan talking heads any more than those on "the right" as the media generated conversation keeps a dys/misinformed populous at each others' throats, and well distracted with straw men, red herrings and false flag arguments.


"It is easier for (Thom) to believe what he says and his audience laps it up as facts."

See, that's odd. It just shows how differently people see the same things. I have that very same impression about the Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck junket. Seriously. Same thing with pumping up the fear factor. It seems to fly every which way ... someone must have left the fan on.


"Give Tucker Carlson a watch. He may be a model your side needs to copy."

Which side is "my side" Diane? Who are you talking to?

I don't like to take sides. I also do not like partisan punditry and gross factionalism ... as far as I know, it is unconstitutional to support that kind of obtuse opposition within the government ... speaking of going by the constitution ... shall we fact check that?


"As for those "industrious immigrants" I spoke of from 140 years ago, when they came to America they wanted to assimilate. Todays immigrants come in and all too many insist on changing American culture to that of the country they immigrated from. Big difference."

Were your people among that wave of immigrants - post Civil War industrial era? From what little I know, it was a rough ride. You had to be tough to survive. It might be revealing to examine what "The American Dream" looked like to that generation compared to others.

I think every cultural group that immigrates contributes to an ever changing diverse American culture, each in their own way. When it stops changing, it stops being America. Since when, in the "land of the free" is an individual not allowed to honor their own roots and traditions?

... well, come to think of it ..., since the beginning - if you consider the lives of imported slaves and displaced people who already lived in this land, and called it home for ages ...

And really, it does seem to me that Anglo-European settlers in this land were - and still are - intent on imposing their own values and ' changing American culture to that of the country they immigrated from ... not such a big difference ... just, different cultures, this time.

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