Is Trump Getting Talking Points From Neo-Nazis?

Donald Trump opened his address to Congress Tuesday night by condemning the wave of anti-Semitic attacks that have rattled Jewish communities all across the country in recent weeks.

These attacks - he said - should remind us that "we are still a divided nation".

"Recent threats targeting Jewish community centers and vandalism of Jewish cemeteries, as well as last week's shooting in Kansas City, remind us that while we may be a nation divided on policies, we are a country that stands united in condemning hate and evil in all of its very ugly forms."

Very presidential, right?

Well, just a few hours before condemning those attacks, Donald Trump hinted that people - AKA the Jews - might be "faking" them to further some sort of agenda.

Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro told Buzzfeed News that Trump had mentioned to a meeting of state attorneys general that the purpose of the attacks wasn't yet clear because "Sometimes it's the reverse, to make people - or to make others - look bad".

That's the kind rhetoric you usually see on neo-Nazi websites, but now it's coming straight out of the mouth of the President of the United States.

So why is the mainstream media not talking about it?

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blakelybw's picture
blakelybw 5 years 16 weeks ago
#1

How many times does "El Trumposo" have to lie and/or contradict himself before talking heads stop acting like ANYTHING HE SAYS is worthy of attention or anything other than mockery. My only qualm is that Pence will survive. If a Russian agent selects a Vice President and a cabinet--are those selections any more legitimate than the election of the Russian agent? It is time to go "trans-Constitutional" and hold a "do-over."

FtheCat 5 years 16 weeks ago
#2

While I am a big fan of Thom Hartmann I think he's off base a bit on this one. I don't think the president was referring to Jews as being the culprits, but Democratic Party sympathizers. That false flag events happen is undeniable but is normally a tactic of the far right and used in a far more direct manner. e.g.. The recent events at UC Berkeley that included starting of fires seems obviously counter productive other than to make the students look like anarchists. I'm still half convinced that was false flag but it's difficult to prove when you don't have the perps in custody.

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Btravelen 5 years 16 weeks ago
#3

I suspect the Berkley attack was perpetrated by his ilk, based on comments by Robert Reich made at the time. IDK if he still suspects so, but hey?..

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Riverplunge 5 years 16 weeks ago
#4

Why is the mainsteam not talking about it??? ...YOU Thom, of all people know why the media is silent. Just like the rich - Money is the media's god too. They don't care one iota about the middle class, commoners, or the poor. And when you got money you could care less about having prejudice, in any way shape or form about anything. The communication industry is saturated with money generating garbage, period.

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deepspace 5 years 16 weeks ago
#5

Angry, racist statements escape from Trump's fat head like air out of a balloon, but conciliatory, ant-racist statements must be read slowly and deliberately from carefully prepared statements that sound distinctly un-Trumpish. The pained expression, whenever he goes against his nature and tries to appear magnanimous and all-inclusive, looks like he's squeezing his hemorrhoids. That this bumbling bigot inspires so many says a lot about the sorry state of Amerikkkan culture.

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Zman 5 years 16 weeks ago
#6

Does no one recall that the "Kansas City shooting" took place in Olathe, Kansas? You know, just down the street from similar events in Bowling Green, Kentucky, and Atlanta, Georgia.

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2950-10K 5 years 16 weeks ago
#7

Well, I could actually picture Bannon sending his monkeys out to vandalize a confederate cemetery to make progressives look bad. It would be the same anti-semetic monkeys that are currently terrorizing Jewish communities. Trump's false flag alt right comment definitely has the filth of Bannon smeared all over it.

BTW: Will Trump pardon Comey and Giuliani before he gets impeached? What in hell is the CIA waiting for?

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k. allen 5 years 16 weeks ago
#8

"Recent threats targeting Jewish community centers and vandalism of Jewish cemeteries, as well as last week’s shooting in Kansas City, remind us that while we may be a nation divided on policies,"

" ... we are a country that stands united in condemning hate and evil in all of its very ugly forms."

"We have cleared the way for the construction of the Keystone and Dakota Access Pipelines ..."

Ok. So, if it looks like a graveyard, and we can see that grave sites of specific individuals have been desecrated, then we know we have "disturbed the peace" for those who have been laid to rest. Not ok.

Right?

I just have to ask ... how is it that we can desecrate sacred burial grounds, as we decimate sacred waters of life ... and somehow, because we do not acknowledge the error of our ways, if we even see it at all ..., that's ok?

Hey. So long as I get my way ...?

https://www.revealnews.org/blog/standing-rock-protesters-seek-solace-at-...

http://www.themarshalltown.com/standing-rock-sioux-still-draws-hundreds-...

http://grist.org/climate-energy/the-standing-rock-sioux-could-still-beat...

k. allen's picture
k. allen 5 years 16 weeks ago
#9

Also from the speech:


"Those given the high honor of admission to the United States should support this country and love its people and its values."

"We cannot allow a beachhead of terrorism to form inside America, and we cannot allow our nation to become a sanctuary for extremists."

"And we must support the victims of crime."

"I have ordered the Department of Homeland Security to create an office to serve American victims."

"The office is called Voice, Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement."

... can we make that retroactive?

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Dianereynolds 5 years 16 weeks ago
#10

Thom:

This is very reminiscent of the comments you made immediately following the Boston bombings. Remember your knee jerk reaction by saying this was exactly the type of bomb used by "white supremacists"?

How about we catch some of these people before declaring or even hinting who did the deed. Your constantly fanning the flames without any evidence makes you look very small.

wmleidy's picture
wmleidy 5 years 16 weeks ago
#11

trump's strategy all along has not been out of a neo-nazi manual, it has been lifted directly from the chapters of mein kampf.

k. allen's picture
k. allen 5 years 16 weeks ago
#12

(Dianereynolds - #10)
"How about we catch some of these people before declaring or even hinting who did the deed. Your constantly fanning the flames without any evidence makes you look very small."

Point well taken, Diane. (((((Personally, I think the Boston bombing was staged. Why so? The technical quality of the media coverage had the look of a high tech home movie.)))))

(Trump)
""Sometimes it's the reverse, to make people - or to make others - look bad".

Actually, there is a lot of truth in that statement, not necessarily pointing to Jewish people - as in some who might want to instigate anti-Semitic conflict.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch ...:

(Trump)
"Each American generation passes the torch of truth, liberty and justice, in an unbroken chain all the way down to the present."


"That torch is now in our hands."

"And we will use it to light up the world."


"Light it up?"

Oh, Hey. Eat, drink and be merry ... no need not to prance now ...

A new day is coming, the old is passing away ....

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robertpetrick 5 years 16 weeks ago
#13

hello

sallylandau's picture
sallylandau 5 years 16 weeks ago
#14

Tricky to discern the occasional truth DT may utter whether he's rambling or reading off TelePrompters and WHEN, and in what cronological order, he spits this out. Perhaps he's not as crazy as experts have diagnosed. His and his administration's constant throwing out conflicting statements is at best unsettling and at worst keeps those who question him less certain. Discussions about whether or not DT is an anti-semite doesn't matter to me me, because he's camillian-like, changing more of his statements than his philosophy. The fact sooo many of his children have love relationships with Jews does not make him a lover of Jews. (I think DT's heart is already jam packed with love of Donald and there's no room left for anything else.)The occasional (you're in toooo small a club, Thom!) reminders and comparisons to Nazi ways of manipulation and this so far not yet deeply investigated Russia involvement in our election is at the core of my beliefs and need to protect the freedoms I've grown to count on and appreciate in our democracy. My daily thoughts wrap around the protections I'd always thought were the framework for American life.

deepspace's picture
deepspace 5 years 16 weeks ago
#15

History serves as a warning to future generations. What greater warning is there than how the concentration of wealth and power and the rise of authoritarianism invariably lead to the erosion of democratic societies and to the horrendous atrocities perpetrated by megalomaniacs who never quit seeking more and more, until they either die or are forcibly stripped of power?

People are as unique as snowflakes, and melt away just as fast in their short time on Earth. Although it can be highly misleading merely to compare the superficial personality traits of today's autocrats to the individual personalities of yesterday's tyrants (e.g. Trump to Hitler), the same fundamental behavioral patterns that afflict certain humans beings and that repeatedly produce the same basic outcomes must surely be heeded.

Egocentricity, self-aggrandizement, narrow-minded ideology, ethnic hatred, lack of empathy, selfishness, greed, and the other backward-evolving common denominators of fascist leaders and followers everywhere, are the shared sins of humanity that have caused all the wars and mass suffering down through the ages. How is it any different today?

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