Are Mike Pence's Dining Habits Weird or Sexist?
Would you dine alone with a member of the opposite sex who wasn't your husband or wife?
Mike Pence wouldn't - and it says something disturbing about how he sees the world - and a woman's role in it.
From Sean Spicer swallowing a pack of gum a day to the president himself rage-tweeting everything he sees on Fox So-Called News, the Trump administration is a veritable hotbed of strange behaviors.
But the award for weirdest personal quirk in the Trump White House has to go Vice President Mike Pence.
According to the Washington Post, "Pence... never eats alone with a woman other than his wife and.... won't attend events featuring alcohol without her by his side, either."
Does Pence just not know how to control himself or does he think men and women are incapable of interacting as equals?
and....does he only think of women as sex objects and that servicing men is our only role?
I don't like labeling people. Knowing Mike Pence's history of being anti-Planned Parenthood, e.g., I just want you to know that his eating and drinking out preferences are just plain stupid. Stupid. Nothing more sophisticated than S-T-U-P-I-D-!
Pence sounds very old school; there was a time (pre-1950's) when it was inappropriate for a married gentleman to be seen in public in the company of an unmarried woman who was not his wife or close relative (sister, daughter, aunt, etc.), unless his wife was also present.
It may seem rather quaint these days, but that is one of the old social 'niceties' I'd like to see make a comeback - you know: please, thank you, sir, madam, etc.
Pence is misogynistic because he believes the misogynistic Bible is the word of God. We need a revolution in religion based on our innate God-given reason and Deism as Thomas Paine called for in The Age of Reason. This will greatly lessen the impact of the negative teachings of the "holy" books and the "revealed" religions.
Progress! Bob Johnson
It is my opinion that he is as strange as a three dollar bill and hates women.
It would be easy to get him out of the white House if he makes it there.
mike pence is probably our next president, but beyond that he is but a diversion from more important issues, such as, how do we educate the average american that we live in an oligarchy? how do we educate the average american that a reutrn to the pre-ronald teagan tax code would restore the middle class and return the robber barons of today to paying their fair share of taxes? those are the fundamental issues that created the trump dilemma, those are the fundamental problems we must solve. everything else will fall into place.
If you think trump is bad.. Just wait till pence takes the helm!!!
Be realistic. If a public figure dines with someone of the opposite sex who is not his/her spouse, the scandal mongers go into high gear.
A lot of us don't see it that way, though religion is far too complex to address in a post. It's necessary to put the Bible into the context of the time and place that each book of the Bible was written. I'm not aware of any misogynistic teachings of Jesus.
Let's not forget that Pence and his party worship the Money Changers on Wall Street. Yeah sure, Mikey is just a good little boy kneeling beside his bed every night praying for unregulated capitalism, because hey, Jesus told him the billionaires still need more of his help.
For Pete's sake....Pence knows full well that if he was seen dining with a woman who wasn't his wife, there would be front page pics in the NYT and WaPo claiming he was stepping out on his wife and having an affair. Do not deny it. It is SOP for the left wing media.
Flashback to the 2008 election. The NYT runs an unsubstanciated front page story about John McCain having an affair. Fake News and the NYT was sued because of it.
Answer to your question: YES. We may have to discuss Pence's religious values which may be the basis of this relationship with women and with alcohol.
Some would call it respect for his spouse, others would say being in a prominent position his decision could prevent any possible blackmail situations, but those bobbleheads who make a living by creating engineered drama...
I assume that most of you would prefer the Bill Clinton approach. Dine and drink with anyone but your wife. Bring them home to the White House, bring out the cigars for brief foreplay, receive a BJ, , followed by denying it ever happened on national television until physical proof was provided by the victim. If you wish we can drag a dozen or more women into the Clinton method of training women "Bill's way".
Do you want more Republicans to have to resign over Bill's affair Diane?
Considering the IC ...I think it's a good way to stay out of their blackmail schemes...
Change of subject: Why won't the Dems just say regularly and often that they changed the rules to appoint lower court federal judges BECAUSE that was their only lane of opportunity to get judges placed - AT ALL. The Republicans said on day one of Obama's win of the White House that they would BLOCK everything "this President" tries to accomplish? For the Republican controlled Senate to go nuclear and place Gorsuch on the Supreme Court is just wrong for America, but not wrong for political donners, big business or women's rights. Find another candidate that would be acceptable to all members of the Senate or, at least, to the majority of them. Isn't that the way this system was designed to work? Why MUST EVERTHING CONGRESS DOES BE SO CONFRONTATIONAL?
Mike Pense is a goddamn liar! Let's just say it in plain English. That's why people in Indiana hate him and why Trump loves him.
This empty suit with a crucifix tattooed on his hypocritical butt is nothing but a two-faced, unprincipled bootlicker of the wealthy elite, who hides extremist, super-corporatist, right-wing ideology and an incredibly shallow mind behind false religious morality and a smarmy public persona.
His true nature was on vivid display as a bigoted talk-show host to the right of Sean Hannity in sheer, opinionated ignorance, churning out non-stop hate and lies -- in other words, just another pissant Republican.
When Trump the Liar is finally, inevitably impeached, Pense is his perfect successor, exactly what their base deserves. Too bad for the rest of humanity.
Ah! Another Christmas morning. Thank you.
The are fireworks over the Montana sky:)). Is it a Holiday, or did Deepspace's head explode again.
(Dianereynolds - #15)
"If you wish we can drag a dozen or more women into the Clinton method of training women "Bill's way"."
Is it time for these girls to celebrate, too?
I wonder whose 'method of training women' this represents ... anything stand out to you ...? ... anyone? ... fishes?
(Dianereynolds - #15)
"Some would call it respect for his spouse, others would say being in a prominent position his decision could prevent any possible blackmail situations ..."
More than likely. All things considered, he looks happy with his wife. Even so, I do have a sense of pretense with Pence. I don't know the facts ... it's possible, whoever does has him walking on thin ice ... he would not be the only one.
Several of these players look like people who have forsaken true feeling for tradition - trading conscience for convention. That would require strict observance of rules and regulations that keep the sin-full soul on a path of redemption and salvation from sure hell that awaits those who diverge:
"The Left Doesn’t Believe in Evil, the Right Does
Christians, like the vice president and second lady, believe man is inherently evil, that he is conceived and born as an enemy of God, and that his evil will only grow unless it is restrained by some outside force.
That would include threats of punishment from the government or, even better, God granting him a new nature that loves God and his commandments and therefore battles against the desires of the old flesh.
Many liberal secularists, on the other hand, believe that man is inherently good, and that those who work evil simply need to have their corrupted moral settings restored to default. Man doesn’t need restraints to be righteous. He simply needs to remember what he is.
... and then, we have the freelance entrepreneurial crowd whose first concern is to find all sorts of imaginative ways to make money ... gain power ... opportunity ... influence ... (hey, someone has to pay the bills ... and you will, or you could get warehoused into the "big box" industries.)
Pence may be one of many people who wants to be stronger than his weaknesses, and believes this is the way. It does raise an eyebrow that he finds it necessary to offer a public explanation about personal behavior concerning him and his wife - like he wants to make an impression ...? Whose business is it, anyway?
Maybe he's just trying to be a good example.
What I find senseless, and economically unsound is the gossipy sensationalization that, really, is nothing new. It is distracting, wasteful and expensive ... and, it just occurred to me it creates an effective camouflage for covert factional activities.
Oh well, I trust it all will come out in the wash.
(Tim Blanchard - #18)
"Why MUST EVERTHING CONGRESS DOES BE SO CONFRONTATIONAL?"
Because, Tim ... we're playing football here.
...expert at surmising; amateur at inferring.
It may all come out in the wash, but why does everyone in this country have to go through the spin cycle first?
Do we have any insight about why Pence behaves this way? Is it something about his religion? Is his wife that jealous? Is he "avoiding the appearance of evil"? I was included in a family Christmas reunion of very religious people. My almost son-in-law didn't clue me in abut no makeup, no jewelry, only neutral colors and no low necks or slacks! I wore my best new jeans, red clogs, red top, nice makeup, pretty earrings. I was a legal secretary, not some cheap Jezebel! When I sat down beside a little cowboy, he grabbed his coffee mug and pie and ran! . . . Forward half a lifetime, my church had a visiting speaker last week. I got some coffee and sat beside a charming Jesuit priest for some most nourishing good talk. I'm not wafting pheromones, can't afford French perfume. . . . People need to communicate. I think Pence might fear being trapped and the coverage doctored to look bad.
(Tim Blanchard - #26)
"It may all come out in the wash, but why does everyone in this country have to go through the spin cycle first?"
Maybe it takes too long to hang dry? Fast lane, you know.
Not IMO. "Old school" is another way of saying ignorant or prejudiced. Pence is a misogynist. His anti-choice policies say it all. Governor ultrasound.
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if it was paranoia, too. No politician wants to be accused of having an affair.
Mike Pense looks and acts like a "robotic doll!"
Yaknow, if Pence were to score a set of that magic underwear Mitt Romney reputedly uses, he could probably manage to maintain his chastity.