Is the Clock Running Out On Trump's Presidency?

With reports emerging that Donald Trump told James Comey to drop the investigation into Michael Flynn, is the president now in serious danger of being impeached?

Just 4 months into the Trump administration, impeachment is already the subject of serious conversations in Washington, DC and beyond.

Will the Republican Party ever live down the shame and humiliation it's brought upon this country - all in the name of ANOTHER tax cut for the rich?

Reports that Donald Trump asked James Comey to quash the investigation into ex-National Security Adviser Michael Flynn appear to have marked a major turning point the ongoing storm of Trump scandals.

Yesterday Texas Congressman Al Green called for the president to be impeached:

"I rise today, Mr. Speaker, to call for the impeachment of the President of the United States of America for obstruction of justice. ... there is a belief in this country that no one is above the law, and that includes the President of the United States of America."

And it's not just Democrats who are talking this way.

Speaking to reporters yesterday, Republican Michigan Congressman Justin Amash said that if the new Comey allegations are true, they are grounds for impeachment. What does it say about the Republican Party that they've brought this total humiliation on the country just so they could give their oligarch donors a tax cut? Shouldn't it disqualify the GOP as a serious political party?

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Outback 1 week 14 hours ago
#1

Impeachment is insufficient. Trump should have been impeached on January 21st on the simple grounds that he is demonstrably a cretin. Removal via the 25th Amendment is the only remedy. And then, of course, we're left with Pence (another disaster). Fagidaboudit! We need to start building a third party, as neither of the two establishment parties any longer serve the people.

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Ou812 1 week 13 hours ago
#2

It's all slipping away...trying to drum of charges saying President Trumps conspired with the Russians....the bogus obstruction of justice charges for firing Comey.....Now there is a special prosecuter. He'll find nothing, because there's nothing to be found. You are running out of options....the only thing accomplished by all of this is you've pissed off Trump and those who elected him...Payback is a bitch....I hope you know that, like you know it's all slipping away.

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2950-10K 1 week 13 hours ago
#3

When somebody steals a car and gets caught, they don't get to keep the car. When somebody steals an election and gets caught..... a new election needs to be held.

"We the People" need to start a petition and get the United Nations to oversee a new election. We'd probably also need NATO to come in and keep the Bundys under control.

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2950-10K 1 week 13 hours ago
#4

Despite rightie press propaganda, Roger Ailes was not a patriot. He was a selfish and immoral man who undermined our democracy in the exact same manner Putin has.

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captbebops 1 week 13 hours ago
#5

Do we not risk Civil War 2.0 here? I don't think the Trump supporters (though he's lost a few) are going to roll over easy. Or maybe the Crash of 2016 is arriving late and Trump will preside over it? Needless to say the world (not just the US) is in a strange state these days. Must be that 80 year cycle.

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2950-10K 1 week 13 hours ago
#6

The Kochs want Pence in the White House because he's a hardcore member of their Tea Party...Trump is not. In fact Pence is such a christian hypocrite, we all better pray for him. .

The Kochs hate Trump. Crooked Donny is only a fascist wannabe in their eyes.

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2950-10K 1 week 13 hours ago
#7

Why should those armed with truth and justice roll over easy? That's the problem with many democrats, zero fight.

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stopgap 1 week 11 hours ago
#8

Forget about impeachment! I predict that on his upcoming Israel-Vatican-Nato trip, he will defect to Russia and beg for political asylum.

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deepspace 1 week 11 hours ago
#9

The big fat crybaby who plants his lard ass behind the stolen desk in the Oval Office is pouting about the "criminal investigation" (Lindsey Graham) that will expose his "Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." (Section 4 of Article Two of the United States Constitution). More aptly, he's a sniveling coward who can't accept the responsibility for his own vacuous words and evil deeds-- a back-stabber who blames everyone but himself.

Now, this petty little man-child has even stooped to conflating his own miserable lot to that of the country as a whole with this extraordinarily narcissistic declaration about the appointment of a special counsel who can't be bullied: "I believe it hurts the country terribly, because it shows we're a divided, mixed-up, not-unified country." It's not clear whether he's bragging or complaining, since he is the one largely responsible, on a daily basis, for such division.

Actually -- considering the treachery and dereliction of duty by the Republican Party itself, of which Trump is the snake's head -- the best thing that could happen for the country and the world is for this extremist congress to be mired in endless scandals, investigations, and impeachment proceedings. The midterms are only 18 months away, so the more they are preoccupied with their own magnificent failings, the less legislative time they will have to stir their witches' brew into policy.

After all, is that not what they had in store for Hillary, the Wicked Witch of the East, had she won? Beyond the tit-for-tat "what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander," however, is the positive outcome of a failed party that deserves their karma. Even if the dreaded Pence bogeyman eventually plants his bony ass in that fouled seat (ew!), the near total decadence of his party should be firmly planted in the anxious minds of the disgusted 2018 voters, who should turn out in droves. (Goddamnit!)

Besides, contrary to popular belief, Pence is not some super-politician who can magically manipulate Congress and public opinion to further a fascist agenda; he's a smarmy, rather creepy religious whack job, a failed politician hated by the people in his own state who know him best.

No, Mr. Trumpinski, it will not "hurt the country" for your many crimes to be exposed or for your hapless party of corporate stooges to be hopelessly bogged down. Quite the opposite; when Republicans fail, the country and the world win!

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ErinRose 1 week 11 hours ago
#10

They won't impeach the Donald because of a few things:

(1) Who they picked as the Special Prosecutor. Robert Mueller, was a Bush appointee to the directorship of the FBI one week before the attack of 9/11. Bush wanted the FBI to go from a domestic crime fighting agency to a counter intelligence agency tasked with fighting terrorists. Mueller was responsible for this transition. Later, a lawsuit was brought against Mueller by innocent Muslims who were detained after 9/11, alleging torture and abuse (strip searched and solitary confinement for 23 hours a day,) of people with no ties to terrorism, but based purely on their religion and the possibility ​that al-Queda might be interested in trying to recruit them. Mueller is also seen as someone who was part of the cover-up of what actually happened on September 11, 2001. Mueller was also involved in the training of Egyptian Secret Police at the FBI Academy at Quantico, VA, amid allegations that they, the Egyptian Secret Police, routinely suppressed political opposition to the Mubarek (American puppet) government, by detaining, torturing, and abusing prisoners for months on end. The Egyptian government thanked the US for this training. (American Exceptionalism at its finest.)

(2) It would take a 2/3 majority in the House to pass Articles of Impeachment, and the (R) control the House. Also, the Constitution is silent on provisions for criminal prosecutorial remedy for a sitting president. Worse, there is precedent for the premise that a sitting president ​cannot ​be indicted. "While there is no judicial precedent on the subject of presidential immunity from criminal prosecution, it seems nevertheless to be an accepted legal principle."

(3) Beyond this, there is no one to bring charges since the DOJ is under complete presidential control. (I think we should change this such that if Articles of Impeachment are agreed upon in the House, the whole DOJ is placed under the auspices of the Congress or the Judiciary until the matter is cleared up.) ***

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deepspace 1 week 11 hours ago
#11

Good points all! Yeah, I also seriously doubt an impeachment, but at least everyone will be focused on the whole mess while the legislative calendar ticks down to the midterms. If anything, it will be a great lesson in how a check-and-balance system of government is supposed to work. Whether it does or not is a different, more poignant lesson.

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deepspace 1 week 11 hours ago
#12

Ou812 has his/her/Diane's head planted firmly in the sand ...or up Trumpinski's roomy ass.

Outback 1 week 10 hours ago
#13

And pardon the digression, but what is that thing Ou812's avatar is trying to gag down?

Sorry, I just have to ask....

Outback 1 week 9 hours ago
#14

Aside from that, why is there so much animosity focused solely on the Republican Party here on this blog? Can there be any doubt that, since FDR, the Democratic Party has executed a slow slide to the right and is now a virtual replica of the presumed foe? I'm talking about policy here, not rhetoric. Bill Clinton's nod to diabolical trade deals was a precursor to the gutting of our industrial base and deregulation of the gluttonous financial maggots. Carter was no angel earlier. Hillary would have sold out any vestiges of hope for a recovery in the name of "The New World Order". Why on earth would anyone cheer on a party that is literally feeding from the same trough as the Republicans?

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Kend 1 week 8 hours ago
#15

I don't understand why you are whining so much. America is doing great. Most of the country is doing very well economically, Investors are confident and are finally spending their money. You got rid of a horrible healthcare bill and hopefully will work together and get something that works for everyone. It could be a lot worse you could live in Canada and have the idiot we have. Too bad it wasn't a sport we could trade.

Outback 1 week 8 hours ago
#16

Whining? And WTF do you know about "how America is doing"? Oh, I see, your ample portfolio contains lot of blue chip US based securities. Jesus!

Outback 1 week 8 hours ago
#17

And BTW, sport, we'll trade you one Donald Trump for your Justin Trudeau and throw in an even trillion bucks to take his fat ass off our hands.

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deepspace 1 week 5 hours ago
#18

Outback (#s 1 &14):

In spirit and in theory, I am in total agreement that the liberal/progressive majority of this nation needs to get organized and rally around a truly democratic third party and forsake the two Tweedledee and Tweedledum, corporatized parties, which have ruined our democracy with their self-serving hypocrisy and greed by kowtowing to their fascistic donors on Wall Street.

This sad state of affairs, of course, is due in no small part to several ultra right-wing Supreme Court rulings over the last hundred years or so, which have legalized the bribery of our politicians on every level of government by the wealthy elite, while the revolving door -- the back and forth from public office to private industry -- ensures that the status quo will continue. Those are the "rules" of the game that politicians assumed they always had to follow to win -- until Bernie proved otherwise (notwithstanding that his campaigned was torpedoed by "friendly fire")!

In fact, I was yuuugely disappointed when Bernie decided to run as a Democrat instead of as the honest independent that he is. For the first time in modern history, he might have led a viable third party with a real chance to break the mold and gain the majority of seats in Congress. Unfortunately, here we are: a Democratic Party in name only that has no power and that foolishly allowed a two-faced huckster to outmaneuver them and run as the proverbial populist, dragging his browbeaten party of liars and cheats into power.

To answer your salient question more directly, Outback, I just figure that we should focus our energy against the party with all the power -- the one trying to cut our throats with the blade already pressed into the flesh, rather than the defeated one on the ground bleeding. At this moment in history, we are literally fighting against an all-powerful enemy for the very survival of democracy, and very likely of the world. Right now, as we speak, that enemy is the Republican Party, which has garnered the most support from the hardball class of fascists who are actively waging a coup, such as the Bradley Foundation and the Koch network, to name a few of the most trenchant.

http://www.alternet.org/right-wing/bradley-foundation-far-right-agenda

It pains me deeply to say this, but I just don't see another Bernie-like chance to organize such a main-stream-media-brainwashed, divided, and apathetic electorate into a separate and effective third party in the time remaining before the looming midterms. Instead of splitting our forces like General Custer did, it might be a wiser strategy to infiltrate the Democratic Party en masse and work to primary, or otherwise neuter, its corporate turncoats in 2018 and 2020, and beyond -- for the sake of our children and grandchildren.

In the meantime, by no means should we ever let the corporate Dems off the hook. Never forget, though, that it is still the Democratic Party -- the oldest party on the planet -- that harbors the largest progressive caucus in history and that has struggled mightily to give this nation all the hard-won, progressive policy initiatives of the past that we enjoy today. Truly, it's a long list compared to the virtually nonexistent list of the Republican Party.

We should fight with this caucus, not against them, to overtake the party and force it back to it's roots as the People's party. In reality, beyond the rhetoric, a political party is never one, monolithic entity; it is always made up of opposing factions within that vie to define the whole. The "democratic wing of the Democratic Party," as Paul Wellstone liked to say, could and should rise up and become, in effect, that non-corporate "third" party of which we all dream ...but it needs our help, now more than ever. Time is of the essence!

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randolphgarriso... 1 week 2 hours ago
#19

Impeachment, trial, conviction, and prison are required for trump!! But more so the entire election of 2016 needs to be nullified because of the massive voter suppression, giving the corrupt republicans control of the entire government nullifying all the checks and balances.

Legend 1 week 33 min ago
#20

A third party will not work at this time. That is why Bernie ran as a Democrat and why the Tea Party never separated and formed a third party. You just will split the party. We now need to stregthen the Democratic Party. We have suppressed voters, so we know we have to get more out to vote. Hopefully a lot of these idiots that voted Republican are learning from the current mess that they got us into and will change their vote.

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Dianereynolds 6 days 23 hours ago
#21

Well worth a re-read for all the fake engineered drama leftie/socialists out there,

Ou812 • 14 hours 15 min ago
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It's all slipping away...trying to drum of charges saying President Trumps conspired with the Russians....the bogus obstruction of justice charges for firing Comey.....Now there is a special prosecuter. He'll find nothing, because there's nothing to be found. You are running out of options....the only thing accomplished by all of this is you've pissed off Trump and those who elected him...Payback is a bitch....I hope you know that, like you know it's all slipping away.

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DHBranski 6 days 22 hours ago
#22

It has become a solid tradition for one side or the other the call for impeachment. Impeachment is actually a complicated legal process. First, charges of impeachable offenses need to be drawn up. These must be based on evidence, not just allegations and/or fears. Then Congress would need to pursue those charges. It's unrealistic to think that the current crop of Democrats would do that.

The Democrats' anti-Russian campaign began within a week of the election, as headlines jumped from "Trump stole the election!" to "Russia stole the election!" The election results are actually more complicated. Both candidates were opposed by much of their own voting bases. In the end, roughly half of all voters rejected both, and voted third party or withheld their votes. Trump is so alarming that Clinton won the most votes, the Electoral College vote went to Trump, and none of this had anything to do with Russia.

It would be wise to consider how deeply Democrats have split apart their own voting base. The Dem voting base had (at least since FDR) consisted of the "masses" -- poor and middle class, for the common good. The Clinton wing split this base apart in the 1990s, and the past eight years confirmed that this split is permanent.

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DHBranski 6 days 22 hours ago
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The years of the Bush administration were spent pursuing the same claims. No matter how many times claims of (for example) voter supression are repeated, it means nothing if solid evidence of such supression isn't produced, and then pursued via the legal system.

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Radical 6 days 22 hours ago
#24

Deep nSpace is thanked for his great comments. He or she is right. The only thing is Pence will be Presented if he becomes President as the adult in the room thoughtfull responsible and dignified everything a President should be. The Corporate Media will shove him down our throat. Trump is a gigantic millstone around the Republicans neck and I want him to stay right there untill 2020 or so close to it it doesn't matter. I want no one to ever forget that the Republicans put him in office and they are responsible and guilty of everything he does.

Outback 6 days 21 hours ago
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The “lesser of two weasels” phenomenon when applied to party affiliation is a dangerous game. For one thing, given only the two choices it becomes much easier for the accused, exchanging winks, to engage in in the same base behavior enabled by Citizens United, for example.

I don't often disagree with deepspace, but on the issue of whether it's better to confront the villain du jour while trying to administer triage to last decade's villain I am in complete disagreement. The exercise is futile, as they share the same fundamental DNA.

I, too, regret that Bernie didn't choose to run as an independent from the outset, though I understand his reasons for going the way he did. His public exposure in that venue likely helped him early on. But as the primary battle wore on and it became clear that Debbie Wasserman Schultz and her cronies had no intention of giving him a fair shot at the nomination, Sanders made the fatal error of not breaking off and taking his people with him. He had the momentum and the numbers in addition to an absolutely justifiable reason to do so, say, three months before the Democratic Primaries. I think he could have pulled it off as a third party candidate at that particular point. As pointed out by DHBranski above “ In the end, roughly half of all voters rejected both, and voted third party or withheld their votes”, with reference to Trump and Clinton. I'd take those odds any day. I worked for the Sanders Campaign for a time, but voted for Jill Stein and will never be able to completely forgive Bernie for rolling over so nicely for Hillary, who represented the diametrical opposite of the principles he espoused.

And regarding the concept of rebuilding the Democratic Party into a kinder, gentler version which will heed the call to again represent the masses, one only need look to the recent rebuilding of the DNC and consider who came out on top. I don't see one slim chance that the grass roots is going to alter the nature of the Democratic Party leadership's “global corporate paradigm”. Even if theoretically possible, it would take generations.

Not that we shouldn't support progressives on the ballot at every level, but I believe the best hope we have as individuals to affect change is to promote the growing independent media, to fight at every turn the looming specter of a corporate takeover of the internet, and above all else, grab our neighbor by the lapel and shake some sense into him or her. Of course, in some cases, there is simply no cure for stupidity.

fidfam1@hotmail.com 6 days 19 hours ago
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deepspace 6 days 15 hours ago
#27

Radical (#24):

Actually, I'm an Irish Kerry Bog Pony stallion, even though Diane maintains I'm nothing but a Mr. Ed gelded jackass.

:--))

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deepspace 6 days 15 hours ago
#28

As always, Outback's overall points and reasoning are solid and well defended. Given the sad reality of the nearly completed takeover of our two-party system and Supreme Court by the tiny class of wealthy elites, who have no interest at all in ever ceding any of their power back to the People -- as the rebellious signatories to the Declaration of Independence would have demanded, at the point of a bayonet -- I really don't have a strong argument for giving the Democratic Party one more chance to recognize their fatal errors and to prove their mettle. That would mean, in my mind anyway, following Bernie's lead, pledging not to take any corporate money, and letting the Progressive Caucus lead the charge on every issue, especially their wonderful budget proposal and Medicare for all.

Nevertheless, as remote as that possibility seems, I feel compelled to give the Democrats a last chance, despite the long odds, which seem only slightly better than trying to build up the necessary head of steam to get an effective third party up to speed in time for the next election cycle. In fact, time is so short that the greatest watershed moment in the entire history of our democratic republic is likely upon us, which could determine our fate for generations to come. The day of reckoning is now down to a matter of months, no more than a year according to Yale historian Timothy Snyder (his new book: On Tyranny). We will know very soon if the oligarchs take the final steps to all-out fascism and if we the people can stop them.

It really is up to us. We must each realize deep within ourselves that fundamental change is in order, rather than passively waiting on the sidelines for something or someone to make the change for us. Neither will it work to merely tweak a corrupt and entrenched system at the peripheral of the political battle field. Whether it's fighting desperately within the existing parties to completely reverse course or through a third party that has the potential to alter the political dynamic, the ultimate solution is exactly what Outback prescribes: "...above all else, grab our neighbor by the lapel and shake some sense into him or her." We have all the power -- not the greedy bastards at the top!

So far, it doesn't look good -- our fortunes are not turning and the battle is still an uphill struggle. Having been lied to so badly for so long by corporate media, extremist propaganda, and the political establishment, the people are divided, conquered, and dispirited, preferring escapism and false narratives over facing the hard truths of a failing democracy. They can't even agree on the simple, outward facts of objective reality to make informed decisions, which is one of the fundamental admonitions of the First Amendment.

Thomas Jefferson said that an ignorant electorate sounds the death knell of a people's republic. Are we now realizing his worst fear? Have we already lost it? Are we a defeated people?

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Hephaestus 6 days 10 hours ago
#29

A leader is required

A Cromwell, Washington, Trotsky, Mirabeau type individual

Cometh the hour cometh the man

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deepspace 6 days 6 hours ago
#30

When a chorus of voices reaches a certain crescendo, a movement has begun for a wise leader to follow. It would be most fortunate if he or she is not only strong and capable but also humble in spirit and good of heart. That rare individual, where are you?

Legend 5 days 23 hours ago
#31

The corruption of the Democratic Party against Bernie was severe. I live in a state that Bernie won. I worked for the Democratic Party and in meetings it was discussed who you were for and why. The vast majority of Democratic women wanted Hillary because they wanted the first female POTUS. They did not seem to care if she was a flawed candidate. I heard it said several times that "Bernie isn't even a real Democrat". The female vote is what eventually got him. Debbie Wasserman Schultz was one of them.

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deepspace 5 days 15 hours ago
#32

I hear ya. The same exact attitudes were ubiquitous in my (very conservative) state as well. I argued vociferously for Bernie's cause at every opportunity but was repeatedly blocked by the gender wall, even though in private most of these very intelligent women agreed with the FDR principles that Bernie championed and were repelled by the thinly disguised "third way" corporatism that Hillary exemplified.

It was very frustrating and disheartening, to say the least. I think they were convinced that Hillary would become more like Bernie, in word and deed, once she was in office. I've talked to several of these same women since, and most of them have tacitly admitted the strategic error of focusing exclusively on gender above all else. Hindsight after a train derailment is a valuable lesson too...but it's too f**king late! (Although, I held my tongue.)

There is no defense whatsoever for the underhanded tactics of the Hillary campaign against Bernie during the primaries, or for the institutional corruption of the Democratic Party, which went along with it, indeed, even encouraged it. Although there were many other critical factors that put Trump in the Oval Office, that perception of corruption (which was based on fact) and the gender split drove enough voters away that the Democrats could not overcome all the cheating and all the lies of the Republicans and their sychophants in the MSM during the general. Everything must be added to the list, obviously, for a clear picture of this historic loss; nonetheless, it is highly probable that the deciding factor was when mainstream Democrats (not just women, of course) trashed Bernie during the primary.

This needs to be loudly acknowledged and taken seriously to heart before any real reform is possible. Given the institutional intransigence of the party leadership, however, it is doubtful the generation of corporate apparatchiks will ever get it. They all need to be repealed and replaced!

The bottom line? Liberals/progressives split their votes and lost; conservatives/right-wingers, as they usually do, held their line despite internal conflicts and won. Ah, such is American politics and the f**cked up two-party system!

The past is the past. Now, at this late date, what is the best way forward to defeat the Republican Party and save what's left of our wounded democracy?

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