Did Gerrymandering Give Us Trump?

The past six months have barely seemed real - but the election of Donald Trump was no fluke.

It was the direct result of a Republican effort to rig our election system.

Donald Trump is an historically unpopular president.

A new ABC News/Washington Post poll has found just 36 percent of Americans approve of the job he is doing.

This is a record low for a president six months into his term.

If you're a Republican looking forward to the 2018 midterm elections this is bad, bad news.

An unpopular president usually translates into defeat at the ballot boxes... unless - of course - you've already rigged the system to make victory all but inevitable.

And rigging the system is exactly what Republicans have done.

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deepspace's picture
deepspace 6 years 48 weeks ago
#1

Republicans are criminally minded degenerates who can only "win" by lying, cheating, and stealing, because they know that most Americans are adamantly opposed to their morbid and undemocratic ideologies, attitudes, and policies.

mrohrer 6 years 48 weeks ago
#2

I used to listen to your show alot, but now there is just commercial after commercial and it gives me a headache. Sorry, but too many commercials.

myfunbeads 6 years 48 weeks ago
#3

But what can we do QUICKLY about the Gerrymandering so that we have a voice in the next election???

Legend 6 years 48 weeks ago
#4

Trump started his voter fraud investigation today. This is too prove that he won the popular vote, which Hillary won by 2.8 million. I would rather see the Electoral College vote fraud investigated, which Trump won by less than 50000 votes spread over PA, MI and WI.

About Gerrymandering, nothing much can be done until the 2020 when the next census is taken. Then based on the results they change the dividing lines. A few court cases are ongoing on how they are distributed. For the first time this census will be mainly conducted on the internet. You can bet Republicans are plotting how they can manipulate that.

deepspace's picture
deepspace 6 years 48 weeks ago
#5

mrohrer,

That's true of every competitive live radio program nowadays, isn't it? Try podcasting for your news, commentary, and general information -- there is a huge array of programs that are free, or relatively inexpensive (such as Thoms'), on demand at your convenience, totally mobile ...and, most importantly, no commercials!

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Willie W 6 years 48 weeks ago
#6

Not sure how much "rigging" there was, but his fake platform took him a long way. Not so much the art of the deal as it was the art of the bluff.

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Riverplunge 6 years 48 weeks ago
#7

Gerrymandering didn't help for sure. But a combination of mostly idiot/fear mongering media shows, mostly owned by the rich and News spoken by powerful liars. Add to that the not so hot voting choices. Add to this keeping people from voting.. Pile on, the computers. They can be tampered with - Paperwork can't. Worse yet.. Computers and software are made by shady characters . Which make me worry about the validity of future elections. (Look at the garbage we have now)

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gShawn 6 years 48 weeks ago
#8

Thom,

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Is it worthy of our money?

- Shawn

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2950-10K 6 years 48 weeks ago
#9

Gerrymandering certainly had an impact, but without digital vote flipping and cross-check election fraud Clinton actually won all of those close swing states by wide margins, and thus is easily the legit President.

Why isn't Kobach under arrest for election fraud? If just one valid voter was dropped, he has committed election fraud and should face jail time. Trump by claiming voter fraud is doing what he always does...hey look the other way while I grab your genitals.

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Lynn Harold 6 years 48 weeks ago
#10

He couldn't have won without gerrymandering and Russian interference. It is beyond me how we ended up here after the Bush fiasco and then watching Pres. Obama battle obstruction while trying to repair the damage for eight years. It makes it clear that an insidious type of brainwashing by "news" sources really worked for those who want to squash the middle class and force citizens into a "not enough for you and me" mentality.

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Zuckerman 6 years 48 weeks ago
#11

Trump may be unpopular, but Democrats don't vote. He doesn't need the 60% plus who don't approve of them because they are willing to sit back and let his supporters win

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Zuckerman 6 years 48 weeks ago
#12

I understand why all of those commercials are necessary and I don't want Thom Hartmann off the air for lack of funds. But i must agree that all of the commercials are annoying and detract from the program. They make it difficult to listen.

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Ou812 6 years 48 weeks ago
#13

Merry Christmas Diane:):)

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randolphgarriso... 6 years 48 weeks ago
#14

trump did not win the election, He was suck into office by mistake by an massive voter suppression by the 30 corrupt republican attorney generals removing 13.5 million possible Democratic voters from the voter polls, to insure republican were installed in local, state and federal seats to completely control the government. In part these account for the non voters of 2016.

There is little doubt that they will employ these options again along with others equally unconstitutional.

The gerrymandering is but one enabling method.

In my opinion there is only one way to return to where we were. We need a benign dictator to lead a revolt to arrest, imprison, execute, the corrupt republicans from top to bottom. Shut down the propaganda media and those PAID to mislead everyone. The first couple of months would be very busy. Just hunting the behind the scenes hidden paymasters will be difficult, but can be accomplished.

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Dale1932 6 years 48 weeks ago
#15

For years I've seen writings by people trying to warn the Democratic Party about Republican gerrymandering, packing the courts, voter suppression, election hacking, etc. The corporate Democrats like Clinton and Obama have even more contempt for the people who tried to warn them than they have ever had for even the worst Republicans.

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BoxCar 6 years 48 weeks ago
#16

Trump won because AMERICA is tired of the FARCE of a 2-party System & its MEDIA where we see NO DIFF between a 1-party Dictatorship & our 2-party system since 100% of vote goes to THE SYSTEM> Ross Perot proved it a FARCE when he got ZERO VOTES in THE SYSTEM, & then the BI-Partisan (WTF is That?) commision ruled to EXCLUDE 3rd partys (isn't that what a 1-party SYSTEM does?) What took everyone so long? I knew it a FARCE when TV shoed us a BOLT-ACTION carbine was used to OFF JFK> Now we know from internet it was a coup> Hear for yourself from an EYEWITNESS of who was in on it

Search "LBJ's Mistress" for [www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2IZJM2YuiY]

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BoxCar 6 years 48 weeks ago
#17

Problem is BOTH parties R Corrupt now> So U might start w/George Soros who was a NAZIS "SS" during WW2> Ask Any WW2 Vet who fought Germans> Their take on "SS" Soldiers was same as Gen.Patton's>"SS R Demons loosed upon Earth who s/b EXTERMINATED" My dad, a 3-war vet used to shoot PPL like Soros (SS soldiers) for a living and said "We can do it again, if need be"

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BoxCar 6 years 48 weeks ago
#18

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stopgap's picture
stopgap 6 years 48 weeks ago
#19

Trump drained the swamp and filled up the sewer with the most dispiciple, depraved, vile, low life, stinking rotten pieces of putrid treasonous shit that the diarrhetic ass of the Republican party could spew out.

Actually we should thank Trump for proving once and for all just how fucked up and insane these Republicans really are. While it's true that there is cult minority that will never get it, the facts show that most people do get it. The question is how much damage can these fascists bastards do? And how far have they gotten in their mission to rig elections?

The Voter Fraud Commission is just another example of what these sick pukes will stoop to in their demented, immoral quest for power. Of course they hope, as a by produce, it will distract form the their Russian collusion crisis. But, make no mistake, voter suppression along with creating apathy toward government is the real goal.

Gerrymandering is just another tool in their criminal tool shed. But if you support treasonous collusion with the Russians to bring down our democracy. Rigging elections with hackable, unaccountable voting machines. Wasting tax payer money on implausible Voter Fraud witch hunts designed to suppress votes and weaken American democracy, and any number of other dirty tricks. Then by all means, join the Trump/Putin crime family. But remember, once you're in, you may not come out alive. Especially, if you are a Russian whistle blower.

deepspace's picture
deepspace 6 years 48 weeks ago
#20

Isn't it telling that the billionaire-sponsored Congress, the billionaire-sponsored deep state, and the billionaire-sponsored media is atwitter about Russians attacking our elections; yet, no one in the ruling establishment dares utter a peep about the Republican Party attacking our elections much more openly and effectively? Could this be a new area of study in human psychology called "mass self-denial and projection" perhaps?

deepspace's picture
deepspace 6 years 48 weeks ago
#21

Two BoxCars bumped together and he popped out of a bum's butt -- a soul mate for Hotdog.

}:--))))

changeX's picture
changeX 6 years 48 weeks ago
#22

Either gerrymandering or oligarchs from Russia, how will we ever know?

kgtrye's picture
kgtrye 6 years 48 weeks ago
#23

That could also be said of most democrats. I guess that's expected as they both have the same corporate funders. Our Oligarchy is complete. We should be proud.

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kgtrye 6 years 48 weeks ago
#24

I think the bigger concern is the fact the democrats don't want to win. The fiasco just confirms the true purpose of the democrat party. http://bit.ly/democrats-stop-progressives

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jibaro01 6 years 48 weeks ago
#25

Come on, Thom, Trump won because Hillary was an awful candidate. I did not vote for her. I voted for Jill Stein.

What really suprises me is that people like Stein did not get more votes.

In any case, I have a problem, I can't put my comments on MSN. It gives me a message that they are updating the system and they have been updating their system for over a week now. I can't believe they are so incompetent, so, I'm wondering if I got blocked somehow.

I don't know anyone that comments there, so I can't say for sure. That is why I'm mentioning it to you, just in case a way has been develop to quiet anyone who gives opinions that are frowned on. That would descrive me to a "T".

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jibaro01 6 years 48 weeks ago
#26

Come on, Thom, Trump won because Hillary was an awful candidate. I did not vote for her. I voted for Jill Stein.

What really suprises me is that people like Stein did not get more votes.

In any case, I have a problem, I can't put my comments on MSN. It gives me a message that they are updating the system and they have been updating their system for over a week now. I can't believe they are so incompetent, so, I'm wondering if I got blocked somehow.

I don't know anyone that comments there, so I can't say for sure. That is why I'm mentioning it to you, just in case a way has been develop to quiet anyone who gives opinions that are frowned on. That would descrive me to a "T".

jibaro01's picture
jibaro01 6 years 48 weeks ago
#27

I agree with you, It's only natural if the people who own the Republican Party also owns the Democratic Party. I believe that if someone checks who controls all the big industries and go all the way to the top, they will find the same names.

Legend 6 years 48 weeks ago
#28

There were 2 candiates that had any chance at all of winning. I was a Bernie supporter that voted for anyone that stood a chance of defeating Trump. That was Hillary. After working on the Bernie campaign I worked on the Democratic Party campaign. I did not waste my vote on a write in for Bernie. I did not waste my vote on a third party candidate that might get 1%. I blame your type for why we are stuck with Trump when Hillary would be better.

Kilosqrd's picture
Kilosqrd 6 years 48 weeks ago
#29

Reply to #1

Yet the only lying, cheating, and stealing in the last election was done by the democrats when the DNC rigged the primary in Hillary's favor. And they got caught red-handed.

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Kilosqrd's picture
Kilosqrd 6 years 48 weeks ago
#30

"He couldn't have won without gerrymandering..." Lynn Harold

Say what??? How on earth did gerrymandering affect the Presidential vote? Would someone please explain?

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Kilosqrd's picture
Kilosqrd 6 years 48 weeks ago
#31

"But if you support treasonous collusion with the Russians to bring down our democracy. Rigging elections with hackable, unaccountable voting machines." Stopgap

And still there is no evidence of any of that happening. NONE, zip, zero, nada. No evidence that the votes or vote counting was compromised. Even the democrats have admitted this. No evidence of "Russian collusion" either. Even if there was evidence of collusion, it isn't a crime. Either put up or shut up.

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changeX's picture
changeX 6 years 48 weeks ago
#32

What happens if one were elected yet may have great indebtedness to someone or something foreign?

stopgap's picture
stopgap 6 years 48 weeks ago
#33

Dear Kilosgrd, I don't have to prove a fucking thing, nor do I have to put up or shut up. What I write here is my opinion based on facts I've seen, as I understand them. On this comment page I have the right to expression my opinion. If you don't like or agree with my opinion then either don't read it or go back to your rightwing sites where the opinions are more in align with your thinking. In fact, I don't understand why conservatives waste their time here. I certainly don't waste my time on conservative sites where the information is all bullshit and where readers are impervious to facts. What's the point of that???

Yes you have the right to tell me you don't agree with me and you also have the right to state why you don't agree with me. But since I don't give a fuck what a bunch rightwing fascist bigots that are impervious to facts think, then don't expect me to shut up or waste my time trying to prove anything to them.

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deepspace 6 years 48 weeks ago
#34

kilosqrd: "Yet the only [emphasis mine] lying, cheating, and stealing in the last election was done by the democrats..."

LMAO! This time, you only got to the third word of a post before revealing and utterly discrediting your entire, empty-headed argument, a classic false equivalency. Trolls from the swamp providing cheap entertainment is usually good for a short laugh, but sometimes it's just embarrassing. Seriously, for your own sake, quit watching Fux News, put your pants on, and get out of the basement. You really need some fresh air and sunshine.

It's true that during the primary certain dirty-trick operatives in the Democratic Party and Hillary's campaign played dirty (Gee, when does that ever happen in politics? "It ain't beanbag.") -- principally Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Donna Brazile -- no doubt in coordination with senior campaign aides and possibly with even Hillary herself, although there is no evidence of that. All involved paid a high political price for their nefarious deeds, especially Hillary and the party as a whole for backing the wrong horse, now didn't they? Such is life in the fast lane.

Okay, fine. But where is the accountability in the Republican Party for their institutionalized, decades-long, lie-cheat-and-steal crusade of truly monumental proportions to disenfranchise millions upon millions of, primarily, Democratic voters, of which the evidence is boundless. In your "alternative facts" universe, of course, if it wasn't on Fux News, it didn't happen.

What Republicans have done, and are still doing, is on a whole new level of the lie-cheat-steal scale, never before achieved in the history of American politics, which makes whatever amateurish, slap-happy crap the Democrats were doing look like child's play. The fact that potentially hackable voting machines with no paper trail has made every election, where they are used, extremely vulnerable to outside manipulation has been clearly demonstrated by nearly every expert -- and there are many -- who has ever probed into the matter.

Yet, old and susceptible machines with outdated technology and prone to error, spitting out high percentages of "unreadable" ballots (with no independent paper record) and deliberately sprinkled around in heavily Democratic districts in the swing states in election after election, is only one small tactic in the overall strategy of Republican state legislatures and their Secretaries of State (with a wink and a nod from the GOP and the Republican members of Congress slithering around in Washington D.C.) -- sophisticated, coordinated assaults on targeted minorities, young people, and the poor, all who typically vote Democratic in large numbers. During the short season of actually casting votes, numerous other unethical tactics employed in key Democratic districts include cutting the number of machines, days, hours, polling places, and poll workers to create long discouraging lines in November's normally foul weather.

All that is bad enough but still only makes up a small fraction of Republicans' war on voting and their maniacal sprint to the finish line of one-party rule and fascism. Caging, intimidation at polling stations, illegally purging Democrats from the registration rolls by the millions (Interstate Crosscheck) before they even get a chance to cast ballots, phony voter-suppression ID laws, and probably the most effective: a deluge of lies across every media platform -- TV, radio, internet, newspapers drowning out everything liberal, progressive, and "DemocRAT."

You are correct that extremely partisan gerrymandering doesn't affect a presidential election, but it certainly HAS guaranteed a Republican majority in the House despite several millions more ballots cast for Democratic contenders in every election since 2010. Nice!

Any cloak-and-dagger efforts by the Russians pale in comparison to what Republicans have been doing all along, brazenly and shamelessly out in the open right under our noses. As far as your "zip, zero, nada" evidence that Russians attacked at least 21 state election computers, hacked deeply into campaign computers, and engaged in a massive, weaponized internet blitz against Hillary in favor of your pussy-grabbing clown dummy, look no further than our own 17 intelligence agencies' assessments and the numerous, formal investigations now being conducted by your party in Congress.

BTW, a U.S. citizen colluding with a foreign government against our national interests -- especially our electoral process, the beating heart of democracy -- if proven, is most definitely illegal, as spelled out clearly in the Constitution as well as the large body of case law going back to the founding of our nation. Fux News and MSM dragging an acre of shite into your darkened basement hidey-hole is not your best source of information, ya gobber.

As far as your "zip, zero, nada" evidence that Republicans have been attacking our electoral process for decades, look no further than the reams of evidence gathered by such investigative reporters as Brad Friedman, Greg Palast, Amy Goodman, and lawyers Robert F. Kennedy and Mike Papantonio -- to mention a few. (Sorry if the truth and the truth tellers might sound liberal to your plugged-up, right-wing ears.) Fear not; there are many other credible investigators and stacks of on-record evidence too numerous to mention in a blog comment. A good place to start is Greg Palast and his short documentary, "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy." One would be remiss not to read his books also, offering rich detail. (FYI, he is a highly trained former FBI investigator, the one put in charge of the Valdez oil spill in Alaska, who cuts no slack for Democrats.)

Another avenue of research that MSM dutifully glosses over is the mysterious and unexplained "red shift" in reliably Democratic districts that can't be accounted for and that are wildly out of sync with exit polling, the international gold standard used to detect and verify election fraud in every democracy in the world, except ours. (BTW, voter fraud is virtually nonexistent in the U.S. -- "zip, zero, nada" evidence.)

Your turn ..."put up or shut up." Oh never mind, fun's over -- not interested in toxic swamp gas! Gabh síos ort fhéin'.

Wait, almost forgot: The single biggest, hands down, pathological liar, cheater, and stealer of all time, not just this last election, is the blubber-butt buffoon who fooled you and 63 million other gullible Americans, the low/wrong-information voters who feed on lies:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=30264

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Dianereynolds 6 years 48 weeks ago
#35

@ #32

You mean like Bill Clinton getting $500,000 from "the Russians"for a speech in Moscow followed Hillary Clinton siding with Russia on sanctions.

And then there was the uranium deal.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-...

It is always a Merry Christmas Ou812 watching leftie/socialists trip over their own dicks.

Ou812's picture
Ou812 6 years 48 weeks ago
#36

@35 Diane,

Washed up lefties have no balls, tripping over there dicks is the best they can do. :):)

deepspace's picture
deepspace 6 years 48 weeks ago
#37

Why don't you two get a room.

Maimeó,

Nice try at deflection, but politicians Bill and Hillary are now relegated to the dustbin of history and have nothing to do with the saga of Trump World, except as objectified bit players on the receiving end of a transparent smear campaign based on obvious lies.

Putin's butt boy is your orange clown, the fake billionaire who pretends to be a president. Besides, Putin hated Hillary because she had the intelligence and backbone to stand up to him, unlike your fluffy sissy who is kissing the ass of a bully bigger than himself. Furthermore, none of your insinuations about Hillary's purported corruption have ever been born out by any serious investigation whatsoever, anywhere at anytime, and she and her husband are the two most investigated politicians in the history of America! Only in Lie Lie Land is Hillary the evil witch.

Similarly, that outdated article you linked to is typical of a New York Times hit piece, corrected too many times, during an election by obscure reporters looking for a scoop that doesn't exist -- a mish mash of dizzyingly complex moving parts that, in the end, don't add up to a gawddamn thing of any import, other than to once again prove the scientific adage that "correlation does not equal causation," especially since they used debunked material from the right-wing nutball who wrote the widely panned book, "Clinton Cash," a nakedly partisan, poorly written, and badly researched waste of time full of provable falsehoods.

Seriously, that's your best counterargument to Trump's increasingly likely naked exposure to potentially damaging foreign influence from one of America's most committed geopolitical adversaries?

stopgap's picture
stopgap 6 years 48 weeks ago
#38

Deepspace: regarding trolls I'm adopting a policy of, Ignore and Replace! Otherwise, I'm just wasting my time. Personally, I think you are much to intelligent to condescend to even give them the time of day. They would never believe you anyway.

But on the other hand, I greatly enjoy your posts and find them most informative.

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chuckle8 6 years 48 weeks ago
#39

Boxcar -- Our founders tried, but the "first past the post" (whatever that means) has led to the mess you describe. As Thom says, the new democracies after 1860 came up with a better method. They came up with the parliamentary system.

With respect to the offing of JFK, Thom agrees with you that the official version is a farce. However, using the internet as a source seems shaky. A much less shaky analysis comes from two people who did extensive research over several years. Those two people were Lamar Waldron and Thom Hartmann. They documented their work in the book "Ultimate Sacrifice".

deepspace's picture
deepspace 6 years 48 weeks ago
#40

Thanks, stopgap. I may also adopt your policy of "Ignore and Replace" (good one), since the shits and giggles derived from responding to their willful ignorance is wearing mighty thin.

changeX's picture
changeX 6 years 48 weeks ago
#41

Which room, room #36? what are the chances that after the Washed up lefties who have no balls, tripped over their CornDog and it flew into your profile photo. What is going on in your profile picture? Just imagine Clinton got 500 grand and you only got what, a couple dollar bills for your post?

Kilosqrd's picture
Kilosqrd 6 years 48 weeks ago
#42

" I certainly don't waste my time on conservative sites where the information is all bullshit and where readers are impervious to facts. What's the point of that???" Stopgap

It's because you are incapable of execpting the truth. You visit like minded sites such as this just to reinfore your already preconceived beliefs. Mutual masterbation, if you will.

It is obvious with replies such as yours and deepspace (between the ears) that facts that do not align with your closed minds really set you off, along with deepspace. Deepspace writes a dissertation and still offers zero proof of any wrong-doing by Pres Trump or his campaign, or Republicans for that matter. It's okay though. I enjoy rattlling cages.

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Dianereynolds's picture
Dianereynolds 6 years 48 weeks ago
#43

@ #42 & #43

Worth stating twice.

Kilosqrd's picture
Kilosqrd 6 years 48 weeks ago
#44

"But where is the accountability in the Republican Party for their institutionalized, decades-long, lie-cheat-and-steal crusade of truly monumental proportions to disenfranchise millions upon millions of, primarily, Democratic voters, of which the evidence is boundless." Deepspace

Evidence is boundless? Then where is it? "Institutionalized, decades-long, lie...." News flash deepspace, Donald Trump was the outsider in this election. There were some 16 other Republicans vying for the nomination. All of those were insiders. Many of them were "never Trumpers" and still are. If the Repubs were going to cheat, Trump would have never gotten the nomination. However, you are too shallow to understand that.

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Kilosqrd's picture
Kilosqrd 6 years 48 weeks ago
#45

" sophisticated, coordinated assaults on targeted minorities, young people, and the poor, all who typically vote Democratic in large numbers...." Deepspace

So, what you are saying is, the more that people can fend and provide for themselves, the less they need the Democrat party. The democrat party needs a permanent underclass to keep voting for dems. The democrats keep them in poverty for that purpose. They promise everything and deliver just enough to keep them poor.

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Kilosqrd's picture
Kilosqrd 6 years 48 weeks ago
#46

" I certainly don't waste my time on conservative sites where the information is all bullshit and where readers are impervious to facts. What's the point of that???" Stopgap

It's because you are incapable of excepting the truth. You visit like minded sites such as this just to reinfore your already preconceived beliefs. Mutual masterbation, if you will.

It is obvious with replies such as yours and deepspace (between the ears) that facts that do not align with your closed minds really set you off, along with deepspace. Deepspace writes a dissertation and still offers zero proof of any wrong-doing by Pres Trump or his campaign, or Republicans for that matter. It's okay though. I enjoy rattlling cages.

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deepspace's picture
deepspace 6 years 48 weeks ago
#47

Your state of mind is revealed (twice) by your own words.

:--)))

deepspace's picture
deepspace 6 years 48 weeks ago
#48

Notice: To respond further is obviously an exercise in futility, so this post is primarily to practice my ever-lacking typing skills:

Thank you, me Lord Kilosqrd, for taking the time out of your busy day to consider that too-long dissertation, your humble servant's most inadequate offering. There is no greater honor than to serve a suppressed yearning for truth and light, a way out of the arrogance and ignorance of the fevered swamps. Why else do you enter the Chamber of Truth and converse with the High Council of Wise Elders, me Lord?

The illusive proof of which you speak, oh Grasshopper, is where you choose to look, and where not to look ( aaahhh ...Fux News, ya think?!). ...Ahem... to our delight, your travels and good fortune have placed in your hands the very answers to all the mysteries for which you have been searching all these long years. Simply scroll back to the bounty of reference material provided above, at your fingertips, at your convenience, and at your beck and call.

As was advised earlier, in case Your Excellency missed it during an episode of self-righteous anger, you may begin your education with Greg Palast, who, through many well-researched works, lays out the long record of election fraud for all to see. No one owns objective reality, Grasshopper; you will find many such truth tellers along the way on your long and arduous journey back to sanity ...not Hannity.

Patience is another virtue to learn anew. For proof of the many crimes of King Donnie Boy the Imposter, we must all learn to wait, unfortunately, for the investigation by the Sheriff of Donaldham to reach its inexorable conclusion. Sad.

Please refer any further inquires to the Royal Office of the Inquisition. They have bundles of documents and witness testimony stacking up in the evidence locker room, along with a mountain of corroborating evidence from His Majesty's 17 different intelligence agencies -- to be released at the appropriate time.

Alas, your humble servant is not on their gawddamn mailing list, and so can only point in the right direction. It is you who must arrive, most honored sir.

IOW: Do ya own feckin' homework, ya lazy eeijet!

Or, in the words of my wise and ...ah... "spirited" great Irish grandfather, "Focáil leat!.

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Ou812 6 years 48 weeks ago
#49

Deepspace stated: "you may begin your education with Greg Palast, who, through many well-researched works, lays out the long record of election fraud for all to see."

Election fraud is illegal. If Mr Palast has the proof, why haven't Democrats done anything about it?

Possible answers:

A. Democrats don't care about election fraud, the rather have the illusion of election fraud to anger there duped supporters.

B. Republicans are smarter than Democrats and will continue to beat them at every turn.

C. There is no proof, Mr Palast is the fraud. He's managed to make a tidy sum dupping Democrats.

D. Democrats don't want to admit the truth. The were beaten in a fair an square election, because they ignored there base, dumped Bernie Sanders and joined in the failed coronation of Hillary Clinton

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deepspace 6 years 48 weeks ago
#50

E. Hotdog doesn't do homework, looks dumb in class, everyone giggles.

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