The civil war just began. They gather at rallies, what do we do? They're deadly violent. Can we get our government to step in before it comes to more violence?

Utterly disgusted. Trump (Trampolini), Pense, Ryan, McConnell, These are the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse incarnate. It's time for sedition followed by insurrection!

Donald J. Trump is an enabler for the Alt-Right. He is pleased to see this rally in Virginia with all the people who came together to protest the lowering of a statue of General Lee. He is with the Alt-Right. He has some folks in his Administration who advise him who are Alt-Right. His statement Monday was heartless and insincere. He was merely reading what someone else had written for him. DJT's statement on Saturday and his comments on Tuesday, August 15 represent his heartfelt sentiment about the events in Virginia. He is with the White Supremacists. DJT is not with America, he is with a fringe far right political wing that is why he praises Putin so frequently. These hard right dictators are his role models. None of this is a surprise that is how he ran his campaign.

None of this should surprise anyone. Trump has been a hate monger from the onset of his campaign for POTUS. Prior to that he had firmly established himself as a bona fide sociopath in his business dealings. He is totally corrupt, both morally and intellectually, to the extent he can actually claim an intellect. I suspect he has handlers that tower above him on both fronts in that negative sense, and whose names will nevrer appear in the media.

What they have accomplished is to fragment our sorry, simple minded society into a number of camps that are now engaged in open hostility with each other. Divide and conquer. The most insidious of these is the self serving center right business owners that would sell their grandmother if it added a nickel to their bottom line. They are Trump's real base. Below that are the under educated but otherwise honest working class that I equate with the Virginia coal miners. They are just trying to survive and are grasping at straws. Then there is this tiny lunatic "alt right" fringe that, when the chips are down, will be quickly dispatched by either the police state or the far more numerous silent segment of the population that is equally well armed if push comes to shove.

If ever there was an argument to be made on the merits of the Second Amendment, we are now looking it in the eye. If that day comes (I hope it doesn't in my lifetime) you will find Americans, black, white, red, hispanic, whatever, lined up shoulder to shoulder to take this country back from the oligarchs that are our mutual underlying problem. It's happened before. It'll likely happen again.

Your President (he is not my President) is uneducated, unaware of the dynamics of various groups within the US, unaware and ignorant of the dynamics of other cultures & nations, ignorant of the various aspects of life in the US, ignorant of the challenges facing Americans in everyday life. He is controlled by the very rich (the oligarchs) (his real base) who are also ignorant of most aspects of life in the US. Nor do they care. In addition, he is impulsive, irresponsible, corrupt, unintelligent, insensitive, lacking in empathy, self-centered, narcissistic, and always power hungry. He is a bigot, a racist, a liar, a self indulgent child. He misrepresented what he stood for and what he did not stand for in the campaign. He has the ethics of a piss ant. Everyday, his ideas are played out. He does not care what happens to the United States. He is a traitor. It is time to Dump Thump.

Impeach the Rump-

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STOP STARTING WARS

Where does Amendement #I provide for the assembly of armed and hate filled individuals as part of freedom of speech? Their protest was unconstitiutional right from the start and law enforcement needed to respond to that. The words "peaceful assembly" were not by accident.

Trump's blame of the "alt left" just serves to highlight his racism. I had a friend, a resident of Chartlottesville, who attended the protest...she described her group as "Peaceniks."

I guess that we can equate the left wing nut job who shot Rep Scaliese with all the other left wingers, meaning OWS, BLM and alt-left up to and including Bernie Sanders.

K2

He didn't drive the car. But he drove the driver.

This is in response to the question that arose today on the radio show re: the OK signal. (I've tried to log on to more relevant Hartmann forums today, but they won't accept my password or username for some reason!) The answer is simple but hard to fathom for people not aware of the occult underbelly of the Nazi party. The Nazi party was born out of the Thule party, based on the German mysticism version of Blavatsky's and the Freemasons' traditions and iconography. The swastika, a rune that had been around for ages, was established by Blavatsky as the symbol for the "Aryans," a term she came up with, if memory serves. These occult-based organizations universally use signals like the OK sign as dog whistles, among other functions. The OK signal represents Lucifer - the circle and three fingers creating 666. This is very popular with occult-masonic groups of all kinds, including the KKK.