Should Exxon Pay For Hurricane Destruction?
By Thom Hartmann A...
As global warming kicks into overdrive - it's high time we started executing some corporations.
As the monstrous Hurricane Irma hurtled its way through the Caribbean towards Miami and South Florida, a new study published in the journal Climatic Change has revealed just just how responsible Big Oil really is for global warming.
As the study's authors wrote in the Guardian - their findings show that:
"... nearly 30% of the rise in global sea level between 1880 and 2010 resulted from emissions traced to the 90 largest carbon producers... More than 6% of the rise in global sea level resulted from emissions traced to ExxonMobil, Chevron and BP, the three largest contributors."
So, should Big Oil companies be slapped with a carbon tax or face the corporate death penalty?
Comments
#2
You can't be nasty to the very corporations that finance your election campaigns.
#3
Of course the big carbon and methane producers should be held responsible. The time has come to put an end to Corporations treating the commons as a dump cheap to dispose of their garbage and toxic waste.
#4
They should absolutely pay for the destruction they cause.
We have the best sun on Planet Earth here in Arizona and every roof should have solar. TEP doesn't want that they want money for carbon garbage.
This has to change in this country and a "carbon tax" is a good start!!!
#5
I have been yelling about this for a few years now. Sorry to see the level has risen enough for other to see, but not the rich benefiting from all the lies and deceit. The only proper punishment I can see is a firing squad for all that are involved in the destruction of our civilization and the planet itself.
#6
We have a carbon tax here. Energy producers just pass ithe tax cost on to the end user. YOU. The only solution to end climate change is to quit using carbon producing products. . No more cars, paved roads, plastics, buses, planes, trains, cell phones, computers, well basically everything. I don't see that happening anytime soon so let's quit building homes near water, dry forests, rivers etc. Our aboriginals thousands of years ago where smart enough not to. New Orleans is lower than the water table. Who's bright idea was that. It would cost 100s of trillions to stop this so it is not going to happen.
#7
Well if, "We the People," owned and controlled the energy sector, as non-profit, our country would already be totally green....and energy would be affordable. Democratic Socialism is the answer, unregulated capitalism is the problem.
Why do 99% of us continue to allow all of the god damn abuse from the 1% ????? What's up with that?
#8
Only if we can get them to cover these $ due "we the people" at the same time.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/09/10/hurricane-expert-klotzbach-irma-a...
#9
10k. I am not sure what you are talking about. Carbon based energy is actually very cheap. It is the taxes the government adds to it that makes it expensive. Here the put all the taxes right on the gas pump. It almost doubles the cost. It is electricity that is expensive. With the exception of coal fossil fuels are not used to produce electricity. Coal a very inexpensive way to produce electricity. Of course solar is the way to go but right now it takes forever to recover the costs of the system. Especially up here where in the winter we have very short days.
#10
For some reason . . . Thom does not want to engage in the discussion of weather modification, geoengineering, soalar radiation management or high-altitude aerosol spraying, whatever you wish to call it. For some reason, Thom considers this topic taboo. Perhaps he can read all the peer reviewed articles going back almost two decades: http://www.nature.com.ezproxy1.lib.asu.edu/nature/journal/v409/n6818/full/409420a0.html?foxtrotcallback=true
Perhaps he can visit Harvard sites like, say . . . https://geoengineering.environment.harvard.edu/
Maybe he could even look up the great work presented by Jim Lee on the history of weather modification at: https://weathermodificationhistory.com/
How about the ever present voice calling out to humanity to put an end to this insanity, Dane Wigington from http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/geoengineering-watch-global-alert-news-september-2-2017/
Dane explains here that "we have only 4 to 8 years left before total ozone layer collapse if we stay on the current trajectory."
Nano aluminum coated fiberglass is being dumped in our air, aluminum is know to cause dementia and now the honeybees are found with dementia.
Are you trading in weather derivatives yet? https://consciousawarenessforall.wordpress.com/2014/12/11/betting-on-the-skies/
Start doing some research Thom, in fact everyone needs to do their research. No climate change talk until you include geoengineering. Then let's have a real discussion!
#11
We all know that regardless of what 'penalty, fine or punishment' exacted on these HUGE Energy Corporations, we the Customer are the one's who actually pay those fines and penalties... So how do you get anything out of them or their stockholders...? Yes you could prosecute the Corporate Management for conspiracy to Pollute our environment, but look at what Big Tabaco did to 10's of millions of people's health, yes they paid some, but no executive was ever prosecuted..
#12
You may be right about that....
#13
Kend do you think the intelligence of the universe / life would leave humanity with limited options ? That's not how it works !!
Anything that can be made from hydrocarbons in oil can just as easily be made from carbohydrates in vegetable crops like HEMP . It's a shame the boomers forgot to educate their kids .
#14
Exxon is on the list for sure, yet all of this group should pay especially the politicians' backers!
As for Bush making "mistakes"--this is hogwash! He and his henchmen acting with deliberation in their invasion that has trashed the planet for a generation or two. Recovery is going to be tricky as climate change and overpopulation along with Bush's sickening foreign policy are almost a deathknell for having a healthy planet with humans.
#15
No corporation is ever going to pay outright. The hurricane was going to happen anyway. Global Warming would just make it more severe. But, by how much? There would have been damage even without warming. What percent of the damage would you charge them for? It would be a brand new argument to kick down the road.
#16
@#7
You always appear angry. Your phrase "99% of us" tells me you really don't care to do something about it. Instead, you just rant and tell others how bad it is out there in the real world.
Nobody is forcing you to take abuse. Don't drive a car, solar panels on the roof of your bunker, grow all your own food, wipe your ass with plant leaves, and above all, avoid the internet. See? Capitalism is no longer a problem for you.
#17
Yeah right Diane....you're never negative, the last comment was so sweet. ...Ms. ubiquitous "washed up lefties" commenter. I don't know how much more clear I could be with my above comment. Take the greed/profit out of our energy sector and we eliminate all excuses not to go green...pretty damn simple. Science is real, foxaganda is fake....grow up.
If you don't like my comments...don't read them....you have that choice too.
#18
Diane ...you have no idea how ignorant you appear to those of us who take the time to become informed with truth. Turn off your right-wing corpse media bull crap and get a clue. Climate change is real and it's man-made this time around. I thought that was the point of this exchange and I offered a positive, not angry , solution.
#19
BTW diane: I belong to various organizations and fight all of the time for a Democratic Socialist government....sorry, I do far more than rant, much to your dismay. Also I have already installed solar on my farm, no bunker, you Alex Jones nuts might think about that though...LOL
#20
i say Exxon should get the corporate death penalty.
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Carbon tax!
perfect solution for holding the big 3 accountable financially until they are charged with crimes against humanity (only one of scores of species affected by deliberate refusal to acknowledge the facts of our reality) for twisting the facts and lying about consequences of their product...reminds me of the tobacco industry's unconscionable acts of deceit...