How America Ended Up With Donald Trump
By Thom Hartmann A...
The thing that you are not going to hear so much about in the corporate media is how we got to here. How is it that we have this man as our president?
And it turns out if you do a deep dive into this, if you look at the research and the reporting that's been done on on Robert and Rebecca Mercer's company Cambridge Analytica and the incredibly good work that they did on behalf of the Trump campaign slicing, dicing and parsing information, we'll find out to what extent that they were using that information for micro targeting individual consumers at the level typically of Facebook, among other things.
But I think to some extent this is going to come out in the Mueller investigations, whether and who it was who was buying these Facebook ads and whether the Russian troll farms are being paid for by the Russian government or by Paul Manafort and all that other stuff.
These are things inquiring minds want to know. And it's not just Trump, but how did we get George W Bush and pretty much everything else. Arguably, how did we get Ronald Reagan?
And I would say it all goes back to 1976 in the US Supreme Court. In 1973 after Nixon resigned, Congress passed a whole series of really good laws to get money out of politics: you can't give over a certain amount to an individual politician, you can't give over a certain amount to a political party.
There were all these very specific limits on money and politics, and a bunch of billionaires said, no, we've got to be able to own politicians. And they took it to the Supreme Court. The case was Buckley v. Valeo in 1976 and the Supreme Court said, sure enough, giving money to politicians or giving money to influence elections is considered constitutionally protected First Amendment free speech, that money is speech.
I've never seen a dollar bill talk, but apparently in the world of Lewis Powell and William Rehnquist it does, and had it not been for that Supreme Court decision, the billionaires Robert and Rebecca Mercer would not have been able to go all in on Trump and he would have faded early on.
All the other Republican candidates wouldn't have had their own individual special interest billionaires.
You wouldn't have had the Democratic Party being corrupted by billionaires in the banking and pharmaceutical industries.
You wouldn't have had the Republican Party being corrupted by billionaires in the fossil fuel and chemical and defense industries.
None of this would have happened, or it wouldn't have happened with such severity if the Supreme Court had not discovered in the Constitution that the founders wanted rich people to be able to control our political system.
We have just a couple thousand people in the United States who fund more than half of all the political campaigns in this country. There's something fundamentally wrong with that. That's called oligarchy, as Jimmy Carter pointed out on this program.
And then once the oligarchs get their oligarch - in this case Donald Trump - they're going to do everything they can to defend him and keep him in place unless he's no longer useful to the oligarchs.
Throughout last year I kept saying the Republicans are going to throw Donald Trump under the bus as soon as they get their tax breaks, because the oligarchs who own the Republican Party are interested in only one thing: money.
Whether it's the money that they're going to make by having Ryan Zinke destroy Bears Ears so that they can mine uranium there, or whether it's the money that they're going to make by having Donald Trump and Congress say it's fine to drill in ANWR and destroy the environment up there, or whether it's the money that Georgia-Pacific will make if their pollution standards are loosened, or if it's the money that coal-fired power plants will make if those standards are lessened.
Coal miners in 2017 experienced the highest number of deaths and coal miners in years. We're dialing back safety requirements in our mines.
Now, it doesn't mean that we're hiring more miners.
It doesn't mean the miners are being paid more.
But Donald Trump did away with those job-killing regulations and put a mining industry shill in charge of the Mine Health and Safety Administration.
So it shouldn't surprise us when the people who are putting our politicians in office, essentially, by buying the elections, don't give a damn about governance.
They don't care about whether social security works. They don't care about Medicare or Medicaid working. They don't care about international relations as long as they can make their money. It's all about the money.
So the question was, if Trump could bring along the base to harass Congress to say, "yes, do those tax cuts", if Trump could do that then they would leave him in power.
But now that he's done that and he's starting to say and do things that might make it less profitable for the oligarchs, in fact, largely what has happened is Toto has pulled back the curtain. We're seeing the Great and Powerful Oz as this short elderly guy who's just "I am the Great and Powerful Oz". No, you're not!
Now we're seeing that Donald Trump is unwilling to let the White House staff touch his toothbrush because he's afraid they're going to poison him. He's unhappy about eating food in the White House because he's afraid somebody's going to poison him. That's why he eats McDonald's and Kentucky Fried Chicken. Do you get this?
There's something deeply, deeply wrong here and I still haven't gone through the 11 explosive claims from the new book, but you probably heard them all in the media.
But what do we do about this?
Frankly, I think impeachment is going to be very, very, very difficult.
But the 25th amendment? I think there's a real possibility there.
What do you think?
Comments
#2
Please forgive my rational civility, but Mr. Trump presented himself as the large, white, wealthy alpha male leading a Robin Hood style "populist" revolt against the very East Coast entrenched elites so clearly represented by Mrs. Clinton and his predecessor: a highly educated African-American politician from Illinois. HRC was and, sadly, still is the perfect foil for the under-educated, hard working, frustrated, middle and lower middle class white Americans who elected their hero and thereby guaranteed continued control of government by the very corporate elite causing their misery in the first place. All Trump lacked was the white charger on which to ride to the polls ala Roy Moore. I guess a golf cart will have to suffice. Politics, which Trump is a master of, is intuitive and operates at a mostly pre-conscious level of raw emotion. As an old Georgia friend once told me, Georgia politicians long ago figured out that a successful politician simply figures out which direction the crowd is moving in and quickly gets out in front. Trump doesn't have an honest bone in his body and is the perfect political chamelion. You only have to watch a Chimpanzee troop to understand the Trump phenomenon. It's really just monkey-business.
#3
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Well Thom, you put your finger on it up front in your piece: The Founders wanted rich folks to run the show, which is why you had to be part of the landed gentry to vote, initially. All of the working class populism that spawned the labor movement and the post WW2 gains of the middle class are really just a flash in the pan. The “monkey business” analogy just mentioned by gmiklashek950 is beautifully described by the book “Hierarchy in the Forest” by Christopher Boehm. For anyone interested you can see it here: https://www.amazon.com/Hierarchy-Forest-Evolution-Egalitarian-Behavior/dp/0674006917
I don't agree with Boehm's conclusion, BTW, as it is so often the case that the powerful "win", but he sure does a great job of lighting up parallels between human and ape-like behavior.
#4
Sorry Diane Hillary won the popular vote. Trump won the voter fraud manipulated vote called the Electoral College. Kris Kobach threw thousands off of the voter roles in key states.
https://www.google.com.br/search?dcr=0&source=hp&ei=yZNQWu-GCYq3wATjyrGA...
Here is his findings. Unfortunately both were Republicans.
https://www.denverpost.com/2018/01/05/kansas-election-chief-charges-vote...
I will also say that your type has turned us into the biggest joke in the world. Everyday the headlines show what a fool your type is.
#5
Should have called Bernie. The Right didn't want him. Apparently, the Left didn't want him either. Most importantly, the billionaires said no! The guy just wasn't greedy enough to be manipulated. He would never amass the wealth it would take to properly run the country. (Into the ground :-)
#6
It's going to take DECADES to repair all the damage "The Thing" and the GOP has caused to this world.... They also love to create chaos!!
#7
@#1
Really Diane...
Do you really think, this is ALL so "simple"?
Or...
Maybe, from a "simple" mind comes a "simple" explanation!
Although, l do agree with part of your "simple" explanation. Both candidates were/are a P.O.S. And lm not talking "point of sale"... Although they both have been bought and sold...
#8
Yes we were given 2 POS candidates. Picking the lesser evil of the 2 was the simple part. We now have the Bond villain and the swamp.
#9
Senator Cory Gardner (R-COLORADO) learned how honest the Swamp is. Watching the video is the best to see him now trying to save face.
#10
Yes gmiklashek950, people have a SHORT memory on what platform Trump ran on.
#11
Diane - Just 2 examples: While Obama was in office the GOP tried to block every good thing he did. He tried to repair infrastructure. They said it's over budget. The GOP tried to repeal Obamacare over 54 times... https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=AvlQWuPHL-Pi_QaTv4ywAg&q=how+...
#12
Diane -The cost of repealing Obamacare was 87 million, so much for being "Fiscally Responsible"... https://www.google.com/search?ei=E_lQWseUHaOjggfU6YuIAQ&q=how+much+money...
#13
Thom,
Something you forgot to mention about money and politics. HRC outspent DT in the 2016 election. Please explain.
K2
#14
@ Legend
Aren't you absolutely sick of voting for the "lesser of two evils"? I know l am!
And yes... I went into the voting booth, and held my nose ever so tight, and pulled the lever for Hillary. Im sure that if she had been the "figure head" in charge of this banana republics executive branch... She Would have (at least) vetoed this latest, absolutely insain, draconian, "trickle down" tax bill if it would have come across her desk...
#15
Haha, excellent and entertaining post, gmiklashek950! And thanks, Outback, for the link to Hierarchy in the Forest by Christopher Boehm. Looks like an interesting read.
#16
Thanks again, Legend and Riverplunge, for the many links that expose the huge, nonstop lies and shameless hypocrisy ...of the Trump "Administration," a clown car stuffed full of Koch-head stooges ...of the House and Senate laughingstock of the world, singing and dancing for the billionaires to round out this Republican three-ring circus ...of the sea of pasty-white faces that make up their easily deceived audience, Fuxed-up bucktoothed rubes cheering them on in spite of outside reality closing in on their tattered, sagging tent.
Well, to be fair, ol' Granny Di DizzyWorld probably traded in her buckteeth for dentures by now -- after chewing on so many sugarcoated lies during all those lost decades that she let slip by, wasting her life on empty calories and junk-food politics. Of course she would vote for Trump! She is that sad, angry, hateful Trumpie-groupie who stubbornly refuses to believe the legions of provable truths about this stupid little man, and yet who is eager to believe the legions of unprovable lies about Hillary. Hopeless addicts are beyond intervention.
Just like the corndog "lady," who admittedly never listens to Thom but then arrogantly posts on his blog only to criticize out of profound ignorance and inbred stupidity this, that, and everything (the very definition of a troll), it's quite clear that DizzyWorld also doesn't read, let alone comprehend, the numerous and conclusive links and lifesavers to reality provided here by so many other commenters; otherwise, she would be too embarrassed to display such crude naiveté for all to witness, post after post. Then again, the word shame isn't part of the limited lexicon of your average lowbrow Trump troll.
#17
Thanks deepspace. I do enjoy your posts. You have a very creative and sharp flair for words. A sarcastic style that l find entertaining... I also enjoy looking at the links that you and many others post here.
#18
And thank you also for your many valuable contributions, jefflisse. Although the tale of trolls writes itself. You just can't make this stuff up.
#19
#14. Actually I voted for the only candidate that I thought could beat Trump as an anyone other than Trump candidate. Even third party was bad or would pull less than 1%. I know that we would be in a much better place if Hillary had won. Originally I was a Bernie supporter and followed his advice when he lost the primary. I worked on Bernies campaign the Hillary's. Every day confirms my beliefs.
#13. It has been shown to you countless times that Trump got billions in free Media time by the 1% owned and operated mainstrem media. Why do you keep ignoring that and that Hillary did win the popular vote. The electoral college was lost by Republican Governors and Kris Kobach disinfranchising voters. Do you like living in a country that make Communist Russia or China look honest?
#20
Yes Legend. Like you l was a Bernie supporter. And l (and many others) worked on his campaign here in southern Wisconsin. Knocked on countless doors. Passed out pamphlets...Went to numerous rallies, etc.
And low and behold.. He won my state in the primaries.
But, when he lost the Democratic nomination through dirty dealings, gerrymandering and corrupt cronyism from Wasserman Schultz and the corporately controlled DNC... And them then anointing Hillary!
Well, l didnt heed his advice and campaign for Hillary... "Chuckling" Maybe l sould have. I guess l was just too busy... Like her! Too busy to come to my state even once and campaign, after she was nominated...Not even once!! And as we all know she lost this state...
Of course, we ALL would be way better off with her at the helm. That goes without saying... Even though l just said it.
#21
Dear Legend Thank you very much for taking the words out of my mouth. The Republicans stole the 2016 election by throwing millions of voters off of the voting rolls check with Greg Palast for the exact number. THe corporate media refuses to report these facts and that includes MSNBC. I would like to ask Legend to put this on Social Media and try to gget it to go viral. I would do it but I don't use social media and dont really know how to do it. Thanks again Legend for your post. I of course am talking about Kris Kobach and Interstate Cross-Check.
#22
@19Legend:
Every morning we wake up, Donald Trump is President of the United States and he will be until at least January 2021 (and probably until January 2025). You and the rest of the "washed up lefties" need to accept that. If you have evidence that proves election fraud, or anything else that proves the election was dishonest, you have an obligation to bring that proof to the attention of the proper authorities. If you don't have any proof, you constant crying about the lost election only make you and the rest of the washed up lefties appear angry, bitter and hopelessly lost....I'm guessing it's the later.
#24
When it comes to expertise regarding horseshit, there is probably none better than Disney Fantasyland Reynolds.
And when it comes to bitter angry name-calling whining, just because those living in the real world of facts have doubts about the legitimacy of King Donald's election; who is more bitter delusional and fact-less than Ohe8shit2?
By the way Deepspace, Don't just assume that Dianereynolds is a woman. It wouldn't be the first instance of a self-hating, hypocritical, cross dressing Republican.
Regarding the Michael Wolfe book: Tell us something we didn't already know. Maybe there are new specifics here, but anyone with a pulse could easily see Trump for what he was and is. So, it appears we ended up with Trump because of an invasion of homo-oppositus from the flat planet FoxGOP, where Backwards is the the divine law and Forward is punishable by death.
#25
Inebriates looking for an argument... guess who... two!!!
#26
"Oh you ate twelve [inchers]" doesn't get out much. I mean out of the Fuxed-up bubble.
My my, how fascist followers love that word "authority," as in "authoritarian," as in "The Pussy-grabber in Chief." (Your -- hahaha -- "president," certainly not mine ...EVER!) Don't choke on that, ah, "corndog" you're sucking, but the proof HAS been brought to the "proper authorities."
If you would have done your homework -- all those many links to credible sourcing so generously spoon-fed to you by the adults in the room over the last year, and repeatedly on Thom's show to which you don't listen (it shows) -- and act like a good little tax-sucking "washed-up leftie and/or leftie/socialist," i.e., public school teacher, then you would have already known that and maybe not have displayed your ignorance, yet again.
Republicans' decades-long "election fraud" schemes (not Trump's fake "voter fraud") in all their Machiavellian forms have been exposed and brought all the way up to one of the three highest authorities in the land, the U.S. Congress. A while back, even the Supreme Court had to step in and force the "Grand" Old Party (What a joke!) at every state and federal level to quit "caging" legitimate voters -- who were of course mostly Democrats.
Republicans are a billionaire-fed crime family running a racket, and the other side of America's power structure, the Democratic Party, is finally getting real about it. As we speak, the rumblings are getting louder and louder about this final nail in the coffin of democracy.
#27
The bigest election fraud of all is The Man hiself... "Who's gonna pay for the wall?" Etc.
#28
First off, thank you for another Christmas feast prepared by malcontent leftie/socialists.
Now to the desert,
Compiled here is a list of excuses Hillary Clinton uses that she says caused her to lose the election.
This particular list is from that radical right wing rag, the Daily Kos.
Non-voters, Independents, Democrats, Republicans, Progressives, Alt-Right voters, Jill Stein voters, Gary Johnson voters, Men, Women, African-Americans, Hispanics and Latinos, White Working-Class, Millennials, Seniors, Illegals, The Primary, Bernie-bros, Messaging, Violence, Tactics, Progressivism, Donald Trump, Sexism, Racism, Deplorables, Emails, James Comey, the FBI, Vladimir Putin, Hackers, the Hacks, Paid Trolls, Wikileaks, Julian Assange, Hillary Clinton critics, Social media, Newspapers, TV Media, Fake News, Facebook, Twitter, Online Media, Vast right wing conspiracy, The Electoral College, Gerrymandering, Fundraising, and finally, Barack Obama.
Breitbart’s list is virtually identical but well worth reading as it was written months after the one by The Daily Kos.
All this leads to the question, have the democrats EVER REALLY lost an election?
#29
The entire anti-Russian Tale -- the many versions from both the D and R sides of the debate -- has run its course. Every allegation to date has fallen flat under the weight of the facts.
Democrats can't address what really happened with the 2016 campaign, but it's not overly complicated. Years of research have consistently shown that most voting choices come down to economic issues. The Dem voting base had long consisted of the poor and middle class, for the common good. Before Bill Clinton, Dems were keenly aware of the significant shortcomings of our capitalist system. The Clinton wing split this base wide apart in the 1990s, and the Obama years confirmed that this split is permanent. It was only more deeply reinforced when they selected Hillary Clinton, who had played a lead role in formulating the policies that split so many poor families apart, plunged so many into hopeless poverty.
#30
@29
Good insight. Now if I could only convince you that none of this matters. The only person who will get you exactly what you want is you. Live your life, make the best of whatever comes your way....You'll be happier, and much more successful.
#31
Currently in Brazil for work and vacation. Always interesting to see how another country works and why. Brasil has been one of the most unequal countries in the past. Lulu a liberal was elected about 12 years ago and turned the country around a lot in his 8 years. Then his self appointed replacement Rousseff won. She had a difficult four years and was impeached in what some call a 1% coup. The Government is very complicated and I am certainly not an expert or authority of any kind. But some of the thing that I have seen. The progressive income tax maxes out at 27%. The "consumer" tax is a knockout. It is 50% of your bill at the grocery store. It is shown at the very bottom of your receipt. If you spend 100 real, 50 real goes to the Government. In this case 55% of it goes to Federal and 45% of it goes to state. So the middle and lower class who spend most of their money on groceries spend 50% in taxes. Corporate tax maxes out at 17%. Import taxes vary from 30 to 150%.
#32
OU812, None of it matters if you want to live with your head in the sand (politely stated). Fighting for your rights will give you much more satisfaction in life.
#33
No Disney Reynolds, the question is have Republicans ever won an election since Eisenhower without committing election fraud, treasonous deals with Iran to hold hostages until the election of Reagan, voter ID gimmicks, closing polls in minority districts, purging of names from voting registers in minority districts, a full fledged rightwing propaganda network (Fucking Old Xenephobes, aka FOX) and so on.
So DHBranski, what the fuck do you think Gen Michael Flynn and George Papadopolous pleaded guilty too? What do you think the indictment of Paul Manafort and Rick Gates is all about?
How can you say "the debate--has run its course. Every allegation has fallen flat under the weight of the facts," when Special Counsel Robert Mueller has not even released his report. Do you think he's supposed to call you personally and fill you in on each days activities? What the fuck do you think he and his team of lawyers/prosecuters have been doing since May?
To say "the debate has run its course" and "the allegations have fallen flat under the weight of the facts," is either grossly delusional or a baldfaced lie, both of which are the Republicans M.O.
#34
@32 Legend
And pray tell, what "rights" are you fighting for?:))
#35
@ #34
I cant help but chuckle every time l see one of your posts. Its pretty much impossible to take anything you write Seriously. Its not just the fact that your completely shallow and down right nasty... Hell, l cant even get past that juvenile picture of you. Do you even know, how absolutely ridiculous it is?!?
#36
%34 The rights of the middle class vs the 1%. You and I are obviously losing.
#37
I think until we address the issue of campaign financing the root of the problem will never be solved. Thing is, I suspect that people in general are wary of initiating a Constitutional process such as the one which would be required to undo Citizens United.
So for now there will be two types of political organizing: short term and long term.
Short term needs to focus on movement building somewhow or at least intelligently address the connections between issues. We need to know how Democrats' approach to things like DACA will result for that issue and also how the larger political process will get tied up with it.
One problem from my perspective as a newspaper-reader is that I have to try to suss out the strategy from the rhetoric when it comes to thinks like building the border wall on the part of immigration activists. The border wall is an upopular idea but fairness to immigrant workers is not. So making it a political issue is wise to an extent as long as the strategy is effective. But, if it winds up making Democrats look bad in relation to infrastructure spending for example then 2018 won't see much of a change in the makeup of Congress. And we should try to accomplish as much as we can which will make a difference in people's lives rather than worry too much about symbolic boodoggles like the wall which will make the right base happy but no hurt too many people.
#38
Sorry I'm late to this one... but I'll get my laughs anyway. Hey Bachmann....explain to me why you vote for the Kochbagger Party, yet choose to be employed in a job supported by property and state income tax? As a closet Socialist, have you ever looked up the word hypocrite?
Wow.... a public educator who apparently doesn't believe in the science of climate change, and also hates the idea that everyone should have government sudsidized health insurance except for yourself.
#39
I see that our sales girl..Cha Ching Diane never answered my question about her post accusing Thom of being a communist. I didn't expect she would.
#40
One in three is middle class? I'd like a current definition of what the middle class is... How much (in todays dollars) would the average American have to make, to be considered "middle class"? I have a feeling its substantially less than one in three. At least by the 60s and 70s definition of "middle class". No doubt... We are losing!
#41
@36 Legend
You haven't answered the question? Be specific, what "rights" are being taken away from you?
#43
The Funny thing about "Merica" ending up with Crooked Donny is that those of us without our heads up a foxaganda ass knew what a wacko he was almost instantly after the first debate. How could anyone not percieve what a hoser he was instantly, even if you were handicapped with foxbrain? Ya know, I'm willing to bet that the Koch's , Mercers, Adelson's, Walton's , DeVos, and all of the Fascists are just as fffddd up as Trump. That's the real danger when government goes to the highest bidder...the highest bidders are usually nut bags.
Man, the Hillary sht has gotten so old. Really, nothing to see emails again..LMAO. Is that all the Fascists have? Beat down the normal citizens employed by the FBI and let the alt right co-worker jackasses get there way ...give me a break.
Well all of this will be a moot point when the economic house of cards comes crashing down....no way out this time. That is, no way out without real and permanent progressive change.
#44
Bachmann avoids me....he/she says she doesn't speak to stupid people. Yep, that was her lame excuse to escape the pain of extreme cognitive dissonance.
#45
To answer Thom's question...I'm willing to bet that Crooked Donny will be forced to resign. The Kochs were worried that pushing him out too soon would jeopardize/slow down the tax scam bill and thus screw up the current Stock Market insanity. The only thing left for the Fascists to do now is to downsize and privatize the safety net. Oil drilling everywhere, tax cuts, and perpetual for profit warfare have already been locked in.
#46
deepspace: You must get extremely bored and tired of lecturing the trolls. Your bar is set way beyond their grasp....kind of like preaching that two plus two equals four but getting the same incorrect answer of five, no matter how slow you go.
#47
2950-10K. It certainly is an exercise in futility trying to respond to the trolls' willful ignorance and nonsensical logic, but it's good for laughs. What's not so funny, however, is the extent of mind control targeted at the susceptible electorate that the Koch network of billionaire donors, with their compliant media empires and politicians, has accomplished in such a relatively short period of time.
It's staggering how the truly bizarre has become so commonplace: a Supreme Court that consistently rules in favor of mega-monopolies over the rights of ordinary citizens; a Congress beholding to the wealthy donor class, where the concerns of ordinary citizens are nothing more than random background noise; a White House harboring a tyrannical malignant narcissist and serial sexual predator with serious mental and emotional disorders, who breaks everything and everyone he touches and brags about his "big button," teasing WWIII for his own self-gratification.
In answer to the main topic -- "How America Ended Up With Donald Trump" -- look no further than the hopelessly conditioned minds of "Cha Ching Diane" and "Corndog the Hypocrite," as well as all the other clueless right-wing trolls who have been taught to support fascism over democracy. They are the microcosm of America's much larger problem.
...But they're still good for a few laughs, a little comic relief from hard reality. The funniest thing though, and kinda sad really, is that they are oblivious to their role as the butt of the joke. As is Trump, their guiding light.
#48
So, while the folks on social media throw slop at each other....the Bushes, Clintons, Obamas, are all one big happy family waiting for the next disaster so you can text them money to puff up their pockets. Haiti even asked that we not give to the Clinton's, Bushes, during the last hurricane.
All of the politicans hate Trump which is why he got elected. The people hoped he would clean house. Personally I don't care for most of the people he has choosen to put in high positions, same ole Bush people.
We definatly need to get rid of Citizens United.
For one week of the primary and one week of the election TV should turn the stations into free polictcal time for all running.....nothing else allowed to be aired. Seems FCC could mandate that for the public good.
Question ... would you change your mind if you find out Hillary really was just a pay to play shill that didn't care about anything but money & power?
People voted Trump in because they are fed up with the dynastys and hoped all would get the point. Maxine Waters acts like a female Trump...so its not like the left doesn't have it's share of loud mouths.
Then there is the split between people who want the NWO, agenda 21, and people who don't.
Greg Palast, John Perkins and Glenn Greenwald all make valid points. Glenn has never been on the right and even he knows CNN and MSNBC has gone off the rails.
George Soros and antifa, the Koch Bros and greed, neither one is our friend!
But as long as they keep us divided they can keep reaping the spoils...right?
#49
My friend 2950-10K
Don't worry my friend I still talk to stupid people. Us stupid people have to stick together. You make so much sense. Our Friend stopgap sounds angry. He needs to clean up his blue language. Thank you for being there my friend.
#50
LOL....Worn Out: You seem really out there....are you on meds? I hope you're just trying to be sarcastic, because I don't want to pick on somebody with real issues. Anyway, Trump says he likes stupid people too....you may find comfort in that.
Maybe you didn't understand my post. Cha Ching and Bachmann can't handle me throwing realtiy back at their foxmerized selfs. It's called creating cognitive dissonance. For example Diane doesn't really believe Thom is a Communist after actually calling him that.....why do I feel like I'm wasting my time?
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It is a lot simpler than that. You ran a horseshit back stabbing candidate that was clearly worse than the horseshit republicans back stabbing candidate.
You lost, show some class and stop acting like the republicans you were whining about for the entire eight years of the Obama administration.