How America Ended Up With Donald Trump
By Thom Hartmann A...
The thing that you are not going to hear so much about in the corporate media is how we got to here. How is it that we have this man as our president?
And it turns out if you do a deep dive into this, if you look at the research and the reporting that's been done on on Robert and Rebecca Mercer's company Cambridge Analytica and the incredibly good work that they did on behalf of the Trump campaign slicing, dicing and parsing information, we'll find out to what extent that they were using that information for micro targeting individual consumers at the level typically of Facebook, among other things.
But I think to some extent this is going to come out in the Mueller investigations, whether and who it was who was buying these Facebook ads and whether the Russian troll farms are being paid for by the Russian government or by Paul Manafort and all that other stuff.
These are things inquiring minds want to know. And it's not just Trump, but how did we get George W Bush and pretty much everything else. Arguably, how did we get Ronald Reagan?
And I would say it all goes back to 1976 in the US Supreme Court. In 1973 after Nixon resigned, Congress passed a whole series of really good laws to get money out of politics: you can't give over a certain amount to an individual politician, you can't give over a certain amount to a political party.
There were all these very specific limits on money and politics, and a bunch of billionaires said, no, we've got to be able to own politicians. And they took it to the Supreme Court. The case was Buckley v. Valeo in 1976 and the Supreme Court said, sure enough, giving money to politicians or giving money to influence elections is considered constitutionally protected First Amendment free speech, that money is speech.
I've never seen a dollar bill talk, but apparently in the world of Lewis Powell and William Rehnquist it does, and had it not been for that Supreme Court decision, the billionaires Robert and Rebecca Mercer would not have been able to go all in on Trump and he would have faded early on.
All the other Republican candidates wouldn't have had their own individual special interest billionaires.
You wouldn't have had the Democratic Party being corrupted by billionaires in the banking and pharmaceutical industries.
You wouldn't have had the Republican Party being corrupted by billionaires in the fossil fuel and chemical and defense industries.
None of this would have happened, or it wouldn't have happened with such severity if the Supreme Court had not discovered in the Constitution that the founders wanted rich people to be able to control our political system.
We have just a couple thousand people in the United States who fund more than half of all the political campaigns in this country. There's something fundamentally wrong with that. That's called oligarchy, as Jimmy Carter pointed out on this program.
And then once the oligarchs get their oligarch - in this case Donald Trump - they're going to do everything they can to defend him and keep him in place unless he's no longer useful to the oligarchs.
Throughout last year I kept saying the Republicans are going to throw Donald Trump under the bus as soon as they get their tax breaks, because the oligarchs who own the Republican Party are interested in only one thing: money.
Whether it's the money that they're going to make by having Ryan Zinke destroy Bears Ears so that they can mine uranium there, or whether it's the money that they're going to make by having Donald Trump and Congress say it's fine to drill in ANWR and destroy the environment up there, or whether it's the money that Georgia-Pacific will make if their pollution standards are loosened, or if it's the money that coal-fired power plants will make if those standards are lessened.
Coal miners in 2017 experienced the highest number of deaths and coal miners in years. We're dialing back safety requirements in our mines.
Now, it doesn't mean that we're hiring more miners.
It doesn't mean the miners are being paid more.
But Donald Trump did away with those job-killing regulations and put a mining industry shill in charge of the Mine Health and Safety Administration.
So it shouldn't surprise us when the people who are putting our politicians in office, essentially, by buying the elections, don't give a damn about governance.
They don't care about whether social security works. They don't care about Medicare or Medicaid working. They don't care about international relations as long as they can make their money. It's all about the money.
So the question was, if Trump could bring along the base to harass Congress to say, "yes, do those tax cuts", if Trump could do that then they would leave him in power.
But now that he's done that and he's starting to say and do things that might make it less profitable for the oligarchs, in fact, largely what has happened is Toto has pulled back the curtain. We're seeing the Great and Powerful Oz as this short elderly guy who's just "I am the Great and Powerful Oz". No, you're not!
Now we're seeing that Donald Trump is unwilling to let the White House staff touch his toothbrush because he's afraid they're going to poison him. He's unhappy about eating food in the White House because he's afraid somebody's going to poison him. That's why he eats McDonald's and Kentucky Fried Chicken. Do you get this?
There's something deeply, deeply wrong here and I still haven't gone through the 11 explosive claims from the new book, but you probably heard them all in the media.
But what do we do about this?
Frankly, I think impeachment is going to be very, very, very difficult.
But the 25th amendment? I think there's a real possibility there.
What do you think?
Comments
#2
Thanks for the compliment, 2950-10k; much appreciated. It's really not an individual thing though. Never underestimate the tremendous power of a simple truth that reflects an outward reality, no matter who says it or how it's said.
The really difficult truths that you have been expressing with such strong passion and persuasion have their own natural eloquence for that reason. Your voice has real power, as do a rich variety of other concerned human beings who take the trouble to post on this blog (haha, with some notable exceptions).
Nobody of course gets all the complexities of any given issue completely right, especially in the realm of politics where subjective attitudes and preconceived notions are deeply intertwined with raw emotion and usually persist for a lifetime. But we can still try, dammit!
That's why the concept of a free press and free speech was enshrined in the First Amendment. The modern-day incarnation of those principles is net neutrality -- a free and open internet unfettered by corporate influence and greed. Oh wait, that's one of the rights the People just lost under Trump's rule in favor of billionaires' "right" to expand their empires and suck more blood from the little people.
At this point, politics hardwired to science rather than to false religion and big money is probably humankind's only hope. No matter the flavor of personalities, styles, or worldviews, only objective observation of outward facts matter in the end. Vote accordingly.
#3
Deepspace #47, And right on cue, we have a post from "Hotcoffee" the most divisive uniter of all time to clear up any doubt as to how Trump became president.
Doorknobs, What could I possibly be angry about? Admittedly, I may take my cues more from Mike Malloy than Thom. Civil conversation gets you nowhere with todays brand of conservatives. Look what it did for Obama and as a result the rest of us. Since it can't get any worse, what do I have to lose? Believe me, if these bastards really knew what I think of them, I'd probably be in a cell down in Guantanamo with a feeding-tube stuck up my ass.
#4
#41.because you do not listen to the show or read the links You do not understand the answers. Currently in Brazil. One of the more unequal countires in the world. The USA is rapidly heading this direction. 1%, Small middle class and a lot of poverty. Max income tax 27%. Consumer tax is 50%. You shape the revenue to come from the poorest.
#5
@4 Legend:
So to review, you get your information from a radio talk show, and the internet. Do you read the walls in restrooms too? You still haven't answered the question; "What specific rights have you lost?" You appear to be free to travel outside the country, so that can't be it. My guess is there isn't any. You have become Don Quixote.
#6
The freedom do live in a country with free unmolested elections. I get my new from many sources. Not Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. Once again you do not listen to the show so how can you comment. You do not read the posted links.
A lot of readers do not look at the links. Deepspaces link in #42 is well worth watching. I posted similar info in #4 and #23. Since you never comment on the links it is obvious that you do not look at them.
#7
@6 Legend:
I check out links, if the are not someone else's opinion. The links you and DS provided are someone else's opinion more elegantly presented...those opinions, have no sources presented....
You say you have lost the right to unmolested elections...If you have proof, you are obligated to present it to one or all of the following : the board of elections, attorney generals (state and federal), ACLU, and others. If you don't have proof acceptable to these organizations,....we'll, I guess you are "tilting at windmills".
#8
You obviously did not look at any of the links. 2 of the links are to Google lists of references (pick 1 or read many). 1 link is from the Denver Post a respected conservative 1% owned newspaper. I hope that the voter fraud criminals (all 2 of them) get long prison terms. And Deepspaces link is to a Documentary film that you are free to find fault in. Perhaps you can educate us on where you get references, documentation. Also what sources you get opinion from.
#9
Bachmann of all people is accusing someone else of not having their own opinions/thought....I'm laughing so hard I almost pulled an abdominal muscle.
Anyway her comment that no evidence of election fraud actually exists???? ...exit polls showed Clinton won four crucial swing states that ended up going to Crooked Donny. These polls confirmed the pre-election polls as well. Even the corpse media was scratching it's head about these polls.
Kobach's cross check purge is third world crap...lock him up.. lock him up! All of those who were illegally purged need to unite and charge Kobach with election engineering and thus fraud. We are not a lawless country.... yet.
The Fascists couldn't help themselves,...a Supreme Court pick....billionaire tax cuts..fraud friendly government for Wall Street ....privatization of Social Security...you name it.
#10
I am a volunteer via IRS VITA/TCE tax assistance program now in it's 50th year. Non profits participate with the IRS and I volunteer through AARP. They put on a breakdown of the 2017 tax overhaul (scam) as follows:
Impact of 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act - 2018-01-07 by Steve Conary
This is a summary of the changes to federal tax law in the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act that will most likely impact some or all of the taxpayers typically served. This summary is not intended to address every detail and there are other changes in the Act. Except for the first listed item, the changes are not effective until tax year (TY) 2018 or later:
Threshold for itemized medical deductions is now 7.5% of AGI for all effective January 1, 2017. Reverts to 10% in TY2019. This is the only change that impacts TY2017 returns.
Increased standard deduction
Eliminated personal exemption deductions
Changed tax brackets
Child Tax Credit (CTC) increased from $1,000 to up to $2,000 for children under age 17, with up to $1,400 refundable
Added $500 nonrefundable credit for other dependents
Alimony becomes nontaxable for the recipient and non-deductible for the payer for specified divorce or separation agreements executed or modified after December 31, 2018
Shared Responsibility Payment (SRP) reduced to zero for tax years after December 31, 2018
Section 529 education plans can be used to pay for elementary, secondary or higher education or rolled over to an ABLE account
Lower debt limit for new home mortgage interest deduction
Repealed deduction for home equity loan interest
Higher overall limit on charitable contributions
State and local tax deduction capped at $10,000
Repealed miscellaneous itemized deductions subject to 2% floor
Recharacterizations of Roth conversions no longer allowed
Many of the new rates and provisions will expire after 2025. In the interim, the majority of the taxpayers served will likely see a federal tax cut. As examples – for a taxpayer with an AGI of ~$27,000, the federal tax liability drops ~330 if MFJ and ~$370 if Single and over 65 with no dependents.
Individuals paying quarterly estimated taxes will require calculation of TY2018 payments using the new law. The NTTC recommend using the Bogart Estimated Tax Worksheet. Volunteers should not spend the time to estimate 2018 taxes in other situations. There are several calculators on the Internet that taxpayers can use to evaluate their specific situation.
To receive the CTC (both the refundable and non-refundable portions), a taxpayer must include a valid-for-work Social Security number for each qualifying child for whom it is claimed. This requirement does not apply to a non-child dependent for whom the $500 non-refundable credit is claimed.
SRP will be payable for TY2017 and TY2018 unless the individual has coverage or an exemption. Volunteers cannot ignore SRP if it is due and the IRS has indicated it will pursue returns that are silent about medical coverage.
There are provisions for individual taxpayers who are self-employed to deduct a portion of their qualified business income from their taxable income, subject to certain (rather involved) criteria.
State Returns. As always, state income tax implications of the federal changes will vary by state.
#11
Legend:
I read the local paper, the Carroll County Times (owned by the Baltimore Sun). I also read articles from the NY Times, The Washington Post, and the Wall Street Journal. I don't listen to any Talk Radio, I only watch local news from an independent TV station in Hagerstown, MD.
I only found one of two convictions you sited in Denver. A GOP party chairman was convicted of signing his ex-wifes absentee ballot. Hardly a national conspiracy. If voter Fraud exists to the extent you and the other washed up lefties say it does, how come there aren't more indictments, trials and convictions?
Oh, one more thing, I usually read my horoscope. Which is the same category I place the references sited by you and deepspace. Have a nice day. ( You see I even promote the general welfare).
As an aside, here is a summary of the book Don Quixote:
In Spain, in the sixteenth century, an elderly gentleman named Don Quixote has gone mad from reading too many books on chivalry. Proclaiming himself a knight, he sets out with his squire, Sancho Panza, to reform the world and revive the age of chivalry, choosing a slut to be his noble lady Dulcinea. He mistakes inns for castles, a play about chivalry for the real thing, flocks of sheep for armies, convicts for wronged prisoners, and windmills for giants. While he and Sancho are off on their adventures, his niece, her fiancee, and the local priest think up a strategy to get him back home.
#12
Your 2nd paragraph demonstrates how completely clueless you are. Screaming about voter fraud is a righty/fascist agenda. They do this to promote Kris Kobach and his agenda to disenfranchise voters. They are madly disenfranchising voters in every Republican Governed state. The really scary part is you claim to be teaching our youth in a public school with your totally ignorant thinking. If you had read any of the links you would be better educated on the subject but you live with your head in the sand (politely put).
#13
#7, page two: "I check out links, if the[y] are not someone else's opinion. The links you and DS provided are someone else's opinion more elegantly presented...those opinions, have no sources presented...."
Just on logic, the two sentences above are mutually exclusive: If you don't "check out links" that are someone else's opinion, then how would you know that the links provided "are someone else's opinion..."??? Those sure seem like the mealy-mouthed words of a disingenuous liar twisted into a pretzel. And you are still licensed by the taxpayers to educate their children?! Clearly, our public school system needs to tighten its standards.
And the false assumption in your second paragraph, and previous posts, that the proof was not presented to the "proper authorities" is an assertion based on blind ignorance. In a pathetic attempt to lend credence to your own fact-free opinion, you are now pulling a grab bag of authorities out of yer arse, one of which must "accept" the case for it to meet the burden of proof in your mind. So, as well as a teacher (haha), are you now the Trump Kingdom's great overseer of how justice should proceed?
Because you are blind, everyone else must be too, right? This political hot potato has been presented to the relevant authorities by many people at every level for decades (The Supreme Court injunction against the GOP for caging didn't evolve out of a vacuum.), including culpable red-state legislatures, their secretaries of state, e.g., Kris Kobach, state attorneys general, federal judges, as well as to members of Congress. So far, only progressive Democrats, such as Mark Pocan and others, are seriously pursuing a permanent legislative fix to end election fraud and the Republicans' shameless abuse of voters. Republican so-called "authorities" virtually to the person all up and down the system are avoiding their smelly turd like Fux News does honest reporting. Gee, I wonder why?
Such abuse includes but is not limited to: the demonic Interstate Crosscheck program, (again, Kris Kobach); onerous registration requirements, throwaway "provisional ballots" (placebo voting), phony state voter ID laws, and other legally unnecessary hoops and hurdles designed primarily to target minorities, students, the old, the disabled, and the poor (IOW, people prone to vote Democratic); worn out, error-prone, easily hackable electronic voting machines relegated to heavily populated Democratic districts while the wealthier Republican districts get the new equipment; long discouraging lines in the metropolitan areas of battleground states (you guessed it: with large minorities and poor people -- "them goddamn Dumbocrats!") due to fewer polling stations (which are then moved around from election to election to keep people guessing where to cast their votes), fewer poll workers, fewer days, and fewer hours than Republican districts.
The gut purpose of all these schemes is to reduce turnout, because the GOP, a minority party, knows full well that the more people who vote the less chance they have of winning legitimate elections. I'm not going to do your homework, but just take a look at some of the cases brought all the way up to the Supreme Court (Is that a good enough "authority" for you?) to do with red state attempts to make voting harder for minorities and certain others. The only way you could miss the big picture is to deliberately avoid it, much like the corporate media does. (Go figure.)
Sadly, it's true that establishment politicians on both sides of the aisle sucking off big-money donors -- including politically appointed, partisan federal judges -- would just as soon bury uncomfortable realities for political expediency. After all, election fraud is a spear aimed at the beating heart of democracy, a scandal of such monumental proportions that it would completely upend establishment politics as we know it (Please!). It takes a brave soul to go up against Goliath.
You obviously did not sit through the 48 minutes of Link TV's interview with Greg Pallast, a seasoned investigative reporter who also was one of the FBI's top investigators (the lead on the Exxon Valdez oil spill in Prince William Sound, Alaska) before making his life's mission the exposure of rapacious billionaires and their monumental crimes against society (such as the Valdez spill and Exxon's slow-walk of the cleanup and settlement money, as they waited for the affected members of the Inuit to die off).
And, like a dog with a bone ever since the 2000 election shenanigans, Palast has been all over Republicans' massive state efforts to purge or otherwise disenfranchise millions of Democrats in key districts from sea to polluted sea. Although he has an entertaining and colorful personality, with an equally interesting past to match it, when it comes to his hands-on, gumshoe detective work, he is as thorough and straight down the middle as any committed professional, probably more than most.
BTW, Greg Palast is not the only credible investigator who has delved into this matter, which should be of utmost importance to every voter in America -- Republican, Democrat, independent, and third party alike. Brad Friedman, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and Amy Goodman are also straight-up reliable sources who have ferreted out some of the damning evidence. Many other entities including foreign observers have been watching, and shaking their heads, at our overly burdensome election process that prevents and/or discourages so many citizens from exercising their primary duty (which I believe should be mandatory.)
Probably one of the most telling pieces of evidence is what 2950-10k brought up above: the fact that machine tallies are wildly off the mark from the exit-polling, the U.N. international gold standard to determine if election fraud has taken place. Even our own government relies on exit polls when it observes the election processes of other governments, including Putin's ruthless dictatorship posing as democracy
I'm sorry if non-subjective truth sounds like a liberal conspiracy to your right-wing ears plugged up with self-dealing corporate/Republican propaganda. That you are (evidently) mentally and emotionally incapable of distinguishing opinion from fact is a personal problem that you must suffer, not the rest of us.
Again, Greg Palast is an excellent starting point for further research. Also, you might swallow your partisan pride for a little while and perhaps "check out" his website as well as his books to quell your ignorance. (Yeah right, that'll be the day!)
#14
#11, page two: We're talking about "election" fraud.
As Legend points out, "Voter" fraud does not exist in any real numbers and is only an invention by Republicans as an excuse to commit election fraud.
Why do you come here to display right-wing stupidity? Are you just baiting liberals, or are you really just plain stupid? To borrow your own sarcastic phraseology from a previous post on this thread: "I suspect the latter."
#15
Happy 98th Birthday to my mom. She started out as a Roosevelt Democrat, gave birth to 8 children and decided Democrats are frauds and liars. She is celebrating her 98th Birthday as a Regan Republican and so are the majority of her children and grandchildren....Happy B'Day Mom
#16
So, in a final act of desperation, lacking any intelligent rebuttal to anyone, you bring in your poor-old 98-year-old mother to get in one more baseless insult, hurled at the great majority of American people who all happen to be Democrats. Have you no decency? Is there any level to which you will not stoop?
#17
@16....who has time to read all that crap....thanks again Al Gore for inventing scrolling....now Deepspace off with you. You are late for tilting at windmills. :))
#18
You have nothing.
#19
Unfortunately OU812 demonstrates the inteligence of the average Conservative. Mininformed, uneducated and loving it. America has a real problem with ignorant voters. One of the many reasons that we now have a POTUS that starts his day watching Fox and Friends and then tweeting about it as the subject of the day.
Oh well, my big decision today is which beach to go to.
#20
Wrong again DS, we have the Presidency until at least January 2021 :))
#21
Ou812, Happy Birthday to your mother making it 98 years. Hopefully she is still a vocal conservative. Gotta keep those alt-left seniors from tipping over and burning their scooters while raising their fists and screeching "resist" at the sky.
Rick Steves, you show remarkable boredom with life by claiming you are on vacation in another hemisphere. Holy shit man, the best you have to put forth is trading comments and throwing barbs with the dozen or so Thom Hartmann followers? I would say get it together but there is nothing quite amusing as an old man with a pail wandering the beach looking for pretty seashells to bring home and put in a glass pot on the kitchen table.
#22
Thank you Diane...yes she is a vocal conservative, with a large following.
#23
#20. What's this "we" shite? Ya got Trump; ya got nothin'.
#21. An addled old woman with a Fux News brain, wasting the last bit of sand in her hourglass marinated in absurd Republican lies, constantly repeating the few hackneyed bumper-sticker slogans that somehow managed to stick in her sloped forehead, who fancies herself as an oh-so-clever troll on a liberal blog yet has no self-awareness of how embarrassingly ignorant and boring her disjointed thoughts sound to normal people outside the right-wing echo chamber ...should not critique the life of someone else who gets out into the real world and has a firm grip on reality.
#24
Looks like that oh-so-clever addled old woman with the sloped forehead so easily managed to get the pet goat of a horsey. Your compulstio to always be correct makes you an easy mark. Whatever happened to, So long, and thanks for all the fish?
Ou812, why do I think the leftie/socialists are unhappy with their president?
#25
Haha, you're the easy mark -- a troll being trolled. At least you admit that you're a clueless addled old woman with a sloped forehead. Now, take the next step and realize that you're also marinated in absurd Republican lies.
And it's not that I'm always correct; it's that you are always wrong. Sorry to disappoint, but I'll always be here, on and off, to correct your misconceptions, always.
#26
Not surprising, treason seems to run in the family of Oublahblahblah. So how long has your treasonous 98 year old mother been collecting Roosevelt Social Security…or did she make a fortune from Reagan trickle down economics?
#27
DS so now you're into derogatory racial name calling....How low will you washed up lefties go.....President Trump has appointed 12 district Judges and a supreme court justice in his first year..a new record....with an average of 48, and a life time appointment, the are expected to influence the judiciary until 2050.... That's a pretty good nothin. :))
#28
Stopgap: I'm going to make an exception to making a reply to stupid people.
....my mother doesn't collect Social Security, nor medicare....she lives off her investments.
#29
Ou812, you have to cut birdbrain some slack. He/she/alphabet is an admitted Mike Malloy fan. If you think washed up lefties are f**ked up, listen to Malloy for ten minutes. His show was pulled off many progressive stations so you will have to hunt a bit. This guy is full on bat shit crazy but it is good insight as to how far over the cliff some malcontent leftie/socialists have actually gone.
#30
#27. Seriously, is there anything you say on this blog that is not either a deliberate lie or an unconscious stupidity?
#29. LMAOLMAOLMAO ...Jaysus, Mary, and Joseph! Did we all just read that right? Some Australopithecine mouth-breather from the flying monkey right, eating the lice off an orange baboon while he's grabbin' pussy, is trying to judge the sanity and intelligence of someone several stages higher on the evolutionary scale?
PLEASE good God if there's a heaven, "for ten minutes" have Mike Malloy debate Donald Trump on the issues!!! Better not put em in the same room though; Malloy might give in to his inner fantasies. It would make the scene where the pussgut bully beating up the guy with a CNN-logo head look like a '60's lovefest.
#31
Stopgap
You are mean and angry. I have a mother too. I'm no longer your friend.
#32
#31. Well, to be fair, there's a lot to be mean and angry about nowadays, no? Revolutions aren't fought over tea and crumpets. Besides, although we all love our mothers, please consider the context. Remember, it was a shameless Ou812 who on the occasion of her/her own mother's birthday (for chrissake) gleefully chose to insert her into a heated debate in order to use her as a political prop, so that "mean and angry" 0u812 could hurl one more gratuitous insult at the majority of the American electorate. She deliberately invited incoming fire, which is her/his wont. Such is war.
#33
#30 Deepspace:
- You ought too be ashamed of yourself. I notice you conveniently skipped responding to President Trumps record setting appointment of Judges.
- List of ethnic slurs - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs
Slopehead--Derogatory term for a Ukrainian, derived from a term for a traditional Cossack-style haircut. Kike or kyke ... Slope, slopehead, slopy, slopey, sloper
Slope, slopehead, slopy, slopey, sloper (Aus, UK, and US) a person of Asian (in Australia, especially Vietnamese; in America, especially Chinese) descent.[287][288] Also slant, slant eye.[289][290]
#34
#33. Oh bullsh*t! Any normal person reading post #25 in context understands that the phrase "sloped forehead" was clearly meant in the generic sense (and was not even constructed in the various word forms spelled out in the links cited). Leave it to a right-winger in love with the biggest racist in the nation to know by heart every obscure racial slur and then project that unconscious bigotry onto others.
Although in this case, it was a very conscious lie, and on the face of it, a lame one at that. Calling "Corndog Suck-face" a stupid liar is not a slur either; it's just an objective and accurate description of her/his juvenile avatar and virtually every post, such as #33.
#35
@34 Deepspace,...it certainly reveals a lot about your character.
#36
You -- a lowbrow troll well established as a deliberate and despicable liar on this blog (e.g., post #s 27 & 33) -- of all people are not in a position to judge anyone else's character. "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." Matthew 7:5
#37
Deepspace, keep digging....the hole will only get deeper.
Anyone can go to the cited reference, and see who is lieing.
#38
You're as thick as manure but only half as useful. And what a steaming pile ya got there, gobshite. Here's a shovel; keep digging.
While you're merrily perusing slangs and slurs on the Google machine, look up "lying f*cking hypocrite." It has a picture of the Great White Trump, the biggest bigoted buttwipe in the land, with a KKKlan of disgusting little creatures licking his, ah, boots. Look closely; one of 'em is sucking a corndog.
Try not to melt too fast, little snowflake, but you and your Bobbsey twin, Dizzy Di, not only have severely sloped foreheads and tiny craniums, you also have unibrows, yellow eyes, slit pupils, big noses, pointed ears, rotting buckteeth, bad breath, body oder, scraggly body hair, lice, a monkey gait, and drag your knuckles.
In other words, you're lyn' fockin' trolls -- a race of imbecilic demons too stupid to think for themselves. Even Satan doesn't want you.
I'm sorry for your dear old mother, but as a die-hard Republican, out of eight children one was bound to be a mutant Trumper. Damn, shoulda had that abortion! Abort or deport! Make America Troll-free Again!
#39
Deepspace:
My, my you certainly are angry and your anger hasn't changed anything. President Trump is still president and not going anywhere, I'm still here loving life, and you're still hateful and bordering on a breakdown.
#40
Ou812, some day when you are bored, go back and poke around in the message board archives. You will find the vast majority of posters being the leftie/socialists they are, were still posting the same hatred and vitriol even when they had complete control in congress. There were also the few that felt they were the board nanny's and had to comment on and correct every post. I have no idea what it would take to make them happier, but with President Trump in the White House they have taken their anger up a notch or sixteen and as you can plainly see, the wacko’s here have already gone clean over the cliff. Understanding they are a tiny fraction of what working Americans really believe, makes it fun to watch.
I cannot listen to Thom’s whole show because of the repetitive nature of his continuous rants and the fact he appears to live in the past most of the time. FDR, the man who opposed public unions and imprisoned the Japanese in US labor camps is dead and it is time to move on to an Oprah presidency.
Regardless, at this point in time it is clear where the leftie/socialists want to take us so when something like net neutrality, a topic of which I really had no leanings, after listen to the lefties whining, I went in the complete opposite direction.
So far, we are still posting on Al Gore’s wonderful creation, and the sky has not fallen. Who woulda thunk?
#41
Special Report:
By Ray McGovern
https://consortiumnews.com/2018/01/11/the-fbi-hand-behind-russia-gate/
#42
If you want to make conservatives mad...Lie to them.
If you want to make democrats mad...tell them the truth.
#43
Hi Diane,
Thanks for the heads up. I'll do that when I'm really, really, bored. I think the only thing that makes the washed up lefties happy, is being unhappy....as perverse as that is:). I've heard a few minutes of Thom's show, and didn't like it. Plus it's not on the radio here, nor anywhere close to here. I also don't like talk radio. Talk radio guys will say and do just about anything to get an audience. There really isn't a record of what they say. At least on this site, thoughts have to be put in print, and are pretty eaisly verifiable.
I don't completly understand net neutrality. Except the lefties do whine about it, but they whine about everything....Our communtiy Westminster, MD (we are Republicans, not whiners) has decided to construct our own Fiber network, using Ting as an ISP. The project is 50% complete and offers speeds of 1000mb up and 1000mb down. The city owns the infrastructure, and we can switch ISP's if necessary. Once construction was underway, Comcast, not to be outdone, decided to install WiFi antennas at strategeic locations around our town. So now we have two very high speed providers to choose from. Ain't competation great. I agree, whatever the washed up lefties are whining about, it's a safe bet to go in the opposite direction. If you would like to know more about crazy fast internet for your town, visit Ting.com
I guess pony boy will be posting here soon....he always wants to have the final post.:))
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#42 Hot Coffee;
Huge smile on my face....I love it.
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Perhaps i should follow God's calling and appear on Food Bucket Network.
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deepspace: I'm always amazed by your wordsmithing. I hope you're in a position of public influence somewhere, or write a column in a paper ....lord knows we need truth spoken to power more than ever now. Stopgap, and others amaze me as well. I apologize for my less creative expressions, but will fight on none the less.