Democrats Should Steal Trump's Thunder on Trade

It's time to run bigger, better and harder on trade policies.

"By preferring the support of domestic to that of foreign industry, he [the entrepreneur] intends only his own security, and by directing that industry in such a manner as its produce may be of the greatest value, he intends only his own gain, and he is in this, as in many other cases, led by an invisible hand to promote an end which was no part of his intention."

-- Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations, 1776 (emphasis added to rebut "free trade" misuse of this quote, as free-traders always drop the first 11 words)

There's an old saying that even a broken clock is right twice a day. In that spirit, Donald Trump and his advisors are at least partly right about trade and tariffs.

Ironically, he's totally defying the entire Republican Party, as well as the Bill Clinton-corporate wing of the Democratic Party, and running with policies that progressive Democrats have been pushing for a century.

While most progressive politicians will admit Trump is right on trade (and several have on my radio/TV show), there aren't a lot of Democrats these days willing to enthusiastically acknowledge Trump might be right about anything so they're not much popping up on network or cable TV.

Which is unfortunate: the Democratic Party should return to its progressive/protectionist/union roots and steal this issue right from Trump's teeth, saying that he's not doing it well enough or fast enough. They should run hard in 2020 on Bernie's suggestion that we use protectionist policies to end our trade deficits and bring back home our jobs.

The disastrous trade deficits we've been running since the Reagan era are damaging to the future of America for a variety of reasons, from national security to where the profits from American companies end up, to the flattening of American working wages and benefits.

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stopgap's picture
stopgap 39 weeks 6 days ago
#1

Stoneage, At least we liberals can count. You greedy, bigot, treasonous, child fucking abettors still can't get it into you dense rightwing Nazi/Fascist heads that Trump (TV hack and lowlife, pussygrabbing conman) actually lost the Popular Vote by almost 3 million votes and only won by the Southern bigot "rigged Electoral College," just like his Republican predecessor…and then, only with the help of Russia, the FBI-ala James Comey, extreme gerry maundering and bigoted voter suppression tactics.

Actually, Trump's election only proves just how fucked-up conservatives are. "All the best people" can't seem to get to the exit fast enough...and "all the best words" are the vocabulary of a C-, 4th grader.

By the time Trump gets done fucking up the Country, just like his Republican predecessor Bush, you'll be swearing that you never voted for this insane blowhard, just like conservatives couldn't run from Bush fast enough.

One would think that conservatives would learn. But when you graduate from "Trump University" and Fox News…and drink Trump Wine and eat Trump Steaks, what can anyone expect! Have another glass of Trump Kool Aid! Yum!!! Yum!!! Yum!!!

The moral of this story is, just how immoral Republicans are!

Coalage3 39 weeks 6 days ago
#2

How many democrats had to vote for Trump to get him elected?

Tell us Stopgap...how has your life changed with the election of Donald Trump? Are you an illegal alien hiding from ICE? Tell us how Donald Trump has made your everyday life worse than it was a couple of years ago. And please be specific. We all want to hear what Trump has done to you. And don't tell us what you think he might do, tell us exactly how your life is now so much worse with the election of the Donald.

HotCoffee's picture
HotCoffee 39 weeks 6 days ago
#3

Well Nancy Pelosi wants arizona to mow the grass in the desert and stopgap wants me to weed wack the natural habitat of the forest

And they think I have mental issues.

stopgap's picture
stopgap 39 weeks 6 days ago
#4

Well Stoneage, Why do you think anyone here is obligated to answer any questions posed by you or any other trolls that refuse to learn? Who the hell do you people think you are? But just like trying to explain anything to little children. The questions are endless and usually a waste of time. Einstein has said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. And that includes trying to reason with Republicans!

Nonetheless, one more time. Maybe our democracy doesn't mean much to Republicans, but the rest of us are very concerned about it. And we find those that have to cheat by means of Russian interference, extreme gerrymandering and bigoted voter suppression tactics, to be anti-American and treasonous. So, though it doesn't seem to bother you, many loyal Americans are very offended that many of our fellow citizens are so shallow, bigoted and racist and easily taken in for a candidate that is so obviously unqualified, a pathological liar and ignorant of what government does. To Republicans, American Democracy is just a toy for a spoiled blowhard Richie Rich with arrested development.

So, the worry, feeling of insecurity and angst brought on by having this moron in the White House has certainly negatively affected my way of life and the lives of the vast majority that have no confidence in Trump. How would you feel sitting next to a time bomb?

I have personally curtailed the way I invest my money knowing that, like Bush before him, Trump's house of cards is destined to collapse…as it has throughout his business career, leaving a trail of bankruptcies in his wake, leaving large numbers unpaid for their materials and services and destroying the lives of many that invested in him, while he sneaks out the back door and looks for the next bunch of saps that want to believe his get-rich-quick schemes.

You're belief that nothing major has happened yet to change our lifestyle since Trump has become president is typical of the shortsightedness that is epidemic with Republicans. In reality, he has had very few legislative accomplishments and because of that, he has been able to skate along riding the Obama era economy for is first year in office. It took almost 8 years for Bush to bring us into the greatest recession since the Great Depression and Trump is following the same path, only on steroids, or whatever is is that makes him sniffle all the time.

And don't confuse the Stock Market with the economy. They are two completely different things. Yes, the economy has been chugging along, much as Obama left it. But if you were to ask Republicans, the devastation left by Bush was actually at the end of Obama's presidency and Trump has miraculously turned things around.

It's very telling that you don't want to hear what Trump might do. After all why would you want to buzz-kill the current orgy and the delusional fantasies about what the future may bring. Republicans have been living this, "live for today, Trickle Down" system of economics since Reagan.

But, actually Trump, with his so called "tax cut" that is destined to balloon the deficit, reversal of environmental policies, appointments of grossly unqualified men and women to important cabinet positions, has already done enough to crash the economy and doom the planet to irreversible climate change, and the time bomb is ticking while the cult of Republican sycophants blissfully (ignorance is bliss) frolic around their Dear Leader. Heil Trumpler!!

stopgap's picture
stopgap 39 weeks 6 days ago
#5

HC, you're slipping. You forgot to stick another pin in your Hillary voodoo doll.

Coalage3 39 weeks 6 days ago
#6

So in other words, your life hasn't changed or suffered with the election of Trump. Got it. If you haven't had your money invested in the market over the last year, I feel sorry for you.

Its okay...I asked the other posters the same question, and they all had the same answer. The Trump presidency has not really changed their life one little bit either. Being "concerned" is not the same thing as having your life changed in a significant way. Most people don't really care what someone might do. They are more interested in what that someone actually does.

It was no different for republicans under the Obama terms. The truth is, for the vast majority of all citizens, life usually does not change much from one president to the next...generally speaking of course.

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HotCoffee 39 weeks 6 days ago
#7

America had another year of sluggish growth.

The U.S. economy grew at an annual rate of 1.6% in 2016, the Commerce Department reported Friday.

In the last three months of the year -- between October and December -- the economy grew at an annual rate of 1.9%. It's the slowest pace of growth since 2011.It reflects how slow the recovery has been for many Americans since the Great Recession, which ended in 2009. http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/27/news/economy/us-gdp-2016/ Yup, Trumps fault.
These were the 50 most violent cities in the world in 2017

42. Detroit had 39.69 homicides per 100,000 residents.

http://www.businessinsider.com/most-violent-cities-in-the-world-2018-3

All Trumps fault or a Dem run disaster, isn't this Obama's home state? Didn't he have 8 years to fix it?

I know the guns came from surounding states...but those states are not on the list...why?

5. Tijuana, Mexico, had 100.77 homicides per 100,000 residents.

Dem solution bring in everyone.

California's freindly border neighbor. No cartel members running around Ca. I'm sure.

Dem solution gun free Ca.

Stopgap shouldn't that bird avatar be an ostrich?

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jefflisse 39 weeks 5 days ago
#8

Stoneage

Almost eight billion of us. Things are looking up. If you could just hang on awhile...In 200 - 300 million years we'll be the new batch of coal.

Hephaestus's picture
Hephaestus 39 weeks 5 days ago
#9

#50 - You won't need another one my dear

Just look what his mate Z Jing Ping just arranged...

He liked that idea didn't he?

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Dianereynolds 39 weeks 5 days ago
#10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTUz3zWLXSI

Birdboy,

I am actually learning to enjoy your hostile, angry outbursts dedicated to damaging trump. They are warming my heart. I see the chance of a burst aneurysm, but what the heck, it probably keeps you from screaming at your significant other. (If you are lucky enough to have one.)

Thanks for the double Christmas gift day. Have a Merry one, actually it sounds like you have had far more than one already.

HotCoffee;

Now that fauxcahontas has bowed out, completely destroying all my prepared Thom-Thom jokes, look for a Watters/Sanders ticket in 2020. They could trot out and hire Richard Goldstein the former Clinton campaign advisor. I can her mad Maxine's praise patting him on the back and shouting to the crowd, "You can't lick our Dick twice".

Keep the defib at the ready, this should be a hoot.

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HotCoffee 39 weeks 5 days ago
#11

Another rabbit hole for your entertainment...

Financial Subversion

With the complicity of all governments, the public has been deceived into thinking that democracy exists. Democracy does not exist. Roughly forty governments are outright dictatorships,[34] and the rest are two-party tyrannies that disenfranchise seventy percent of the voters while enabling the Deep State to exercise “pay to play” legislative and executive powers.[35]

The greatest subversion is that of the Central Banks. Central banks are private institutions controlled by the Deep State (Chabad Supremacists, the Vatican, and the Rothschilds), and they are in no way subject to government oversight nor responsive to the public interest. Central banks are a means of legally looting the 99% in favor of the 1%.[36]

By way of illumination, I want to point to the fact, now documented, that the Great Depression in the USA was planned by the banks to accomplish three objectives:

  1. To destroy the middle class that was growing as a political force demanding integrity in government.
  2. To buy up land and other assets as “depression-level” prices, further concentrating wealth.
  3. To deepen banking control of government.

The Great Depression was executed with the full complicity of the President of the USA, Franklin Delano Roosevelt.[37]

In modern times, the sub-prime mortgage bubble leading to the trillion dollar bailouts of the banks; the continued tolerance of banking manipulation of the foreign exchange and interest rates;[38] and the continued allowance of private banks to create their own money, literally inventing billions of dollars in credit for themselves or to loan, suggest that the real enemy of democracy is not Russia, or China, or any power other than banking power as directed by the Deep State.[39]

Corporate Predation

Others, such as John Perkins, have ably documented how banks and corporations subvert foreign countries and bribe and lie their way into the displacement of native villages, the illicit taking of gold mines and other natural resources, and the general subversion of the public interest.[40]

From geo-engineering to agricultural and energy practices that poison the air, water, and earth to the deliberate dumbing down of the mental and emotional capacities of the public to the deliberate embrace of waste on the order of fifty percent,[41] the financial subversion of humanity is almost total.

https://phibetaiota.net/2018/03/robert-steele-rigging-elections-and-wors...

If you think the Dems are different just think of all those Goldman Sacs speeches Madame unmenchionable gave and was paid oh so well for.

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stopgap 39 weeks 5 days ago
#12

Just when you think that Republicans can't get any stupider, along comes Kool-Aid or Coke-age or whatever the fuck his name it. You spend all this effort explaining to him how Trump has affected you, and will effect you, and the he only hears what he wants to hear.

"life does not change much from one president to the next." Tell that to the millions that lost their houses during the Bush mortgage crisis…tell that to the investors of Enron. Tell that to the Auto industry that was brought to its knees during the Bush presidency. Tell that to the 800,000 a month that were losing thier jobs at the end of the Bush Bresidency Tell that to the families of the people that lost their lives on 911 while Bush was reading "My Pet Goat" after being warned over and over "Bin Laden determined to strike in US." Tell that to all the thousands soldiers that lost their lives or the tens of thousands that were maimed after Bush lied us into war with Iraq!

No! Hardly any difference at all.

Trump hasn't changed the lives of "other posters." Only in your greedy, bigoted, racist mind has Trump not effected lives. Because you only hear what you want to hear and only see what you want to see!!

True, watching the demise of our Democracy does not affect Republicans. In fact they are elated because they are a bunch of Nazi/Fascists that love having the clock turned back to their delusional days when "America was great" Though none of them has ever told us when that was.

Now it's my turn to ask a question. When was America great? What is this era that you are so eager to go back to? I'm waiting for you answer!! Remember, America was not America during the stone ages.

Hot Coffee: Detroit is not in Illinois, Indonesia, or Hawaii. Surpirse, Detroit is in Michigan. Go to the back of the class!

Try to get your facts straight. It will help you from looking too stupid. And who controlled the House and Senate the last four years of Obama's Presidency during this slowing of the American economy that you are citing? Hint: It wasn't the Democrats!!!

Nice job of ramping up the racism though. That appears to be the only thing you are good at!

stopgap's picture
stopgap 39 weeks 5 days ago
#13

DeathRey, Trump will be campaigning in his orange prison jump-suit.

And a very merry Kissmaass to you too.

HotCoffee's picture
HotCoffee 39 weeks 5 days ago
#14

Diane,

They do have a problem...don't they!

Totally agree with you about the ostrich!

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HotCoffee 39 weeks 5 days ago
#15

Stopgap...forgive me I forgot to add the sentence about Chicago...thought you might be able to figure that out ...silly me.

Your ability to miss the point is amazing though, as well as your capacity to make excuses for your team, not to mention your take no hostages mentality. Must be your concept of Michele's taking the high road.

HotCoffee's picture
HotCoffee 39 weeks 5 days ago
#16

Dems aready b*tching about the House intel committee report and it hasn't even come out yet.

Interesting!

stopgap's picture
stopgap 39 weeks 5 days ago
#17

Oh! now were supposed to be fuckin' mind readers. Will it never end?

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Dianereynolds 39 weeks 5 days ago
#18

I have said this before HotCoffee, I am at the point where I want them to win elections just to see if their frantic rage bitching will stop. I doubt it ever will but possibly for a few months? Please!

I enjoy President Trump for two reasons. First he is hated by both sides and his unconventional approach confuses both sides simultaneously and secondly he totally disrupts the brain pattern of leftie/socialists.

Prime example, I tried to start with Thom's opening segment today just to see if I could find anything at all with which we could agree. He immediately started ranting about the US being on DST, what a pain in the ass it was to have to set your watch twice a year, and how it screwed people up because they didn't get enough sleep.

Note to confused leftie/socialists, GET THE F**K OFF THE INTERNET AND GO TO BED ONE HOUR EARLY ONCE A YEAR and your problem will be solved.

Jesus Christ, fifteen minutes listening to that life altering babble and it was off to music for the rest of the day.

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Hephaestus 39 weeks 5 days ago
#19

#50 - There won't be a run in 20 if his stated preference is to follow friend Z Jing Ping... haha!

Legend 39 weeks 5 days ago
#20

#15, HC cannot even cut and paste properly.

Hephaestus's picture
Hephaestus 39 weeks 5 days ago
#21

#50 - The 'DON favors a Z jing Ping move

Don't hold your breath on a 2020 run for anything

The populace is bamboozled and ready for it courtesy of corporate bought and paid for media

Hephaestus's picture
Hephaestus 39 weeks 5 days ago
#22

#50 - The 'DON favors a Z jing Ping move

Don't hold your breath on a 2020 run for anything

The populace is bamboozled and ready for it courtesy of corporate bought and paid for media

Hephaestus's picture
Hephaestus 39 weeks 5 days ago
#23

I give up!

Legend 39 weeks 5 days ago
#24

DerangeReynolds: Usually you Righty/Fascists are up in arms about the government meddling with their lives. Fall in line and let the government control your clock. I would prefer to leave the clocks alone. Let business and schools etc. adjust their schedules as they feel they need to.

HotCoffee's picture
HotCoffee 39 weeks 5 days ago
#25

Diane,

Maybe they should start here

“These are the things I learned (in Kindergarten):

1. Share everything.
2. Play fair.
3. Don't hit people.
4. Put thngs back where you found them.
5. CLEAN UP YOUR OWN MESS.
6. Don't take things that aren't yours.
7. Say you're SORRY when you HURT somebody.
8. Wash your hands before you eat.
9. Flush.
10. Warm cookies and cold milk are good for you.
11. Live a balanced life - learn some and drink some and draw some and paint some and sing and dance and play and work everyday some.
12. Take a nap every afternoon.
13. When you go out into the world, watch out for traffic, hold hands, and stick together.
14. Be aware of wonder. Remember the little seed in the Stryrofoam cup: The roots go down and the plant goes up and nobody really knows how or why, but we are all like that.
15. Goldfish and hamster and white mice and even the little seed in the Styrofoam cup - they all die. So do we.
16. And then remember the Dick-and-Jane books and the first word you learned - the biggest word of all - LOOK.”
Robert Fulghum, All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten

stopgap's picture
stopgap 39 weeks 5 days ago
#26

I agree HC, You haven't learned anything since kindergarten.

DeathRey, "There you go again!" Creating your own definitions…"unconventional approach" as a way of describing the insane, schizophrenic, delusional, untruthful speech and actions of Herr Trump! Would you call a heart surgeon that doesn't have a medical degree, doesn't wash up before surgery, doesn't wear prophylactic gloves, doesn't use anesthetics or disinfectants and uses a butcher knife for heart transplants, as one who has an "unconventional approach?"

Of course you would, if his name was Trump!

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2950-10K 39 weeks 5 days ago
#27

Why doesn't Coalhead explain to all of us lovers of democracy just what Hillary Clinton has done to deserve his dark obsession for her? Tell us what crimes she has committed, and while you're at it, what legislation did she vote yes on as Senator has caused you such severe mental pain? But I caution you...fake news ain't gonna do it here.

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2950-10K 39 weeks 5 days ago
#28

I can only imagine Coalhead's reaction if Hillary had won the election with the help of Putin's propaganda, gerrymandering, Kobach's voter roll purge, etc., you name it. You don't own a bump stock do you?

The German people were also giddy as hell until Berlin got blown off the map and the Russians stormed into town. stopgap is correct...shit's gonna hit the fan...this is all gonna end god damn ugly.

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stopgap 39 weeks 5 days ago
#29

OH MY GOD!!! Did you hear what Putin just said about the poisoned former Russian spy? I paraphrase…"we didn't do it, but one thing I cannot tolerate is:" "BETRAYAL." Ever wonder why Trump never says anything bad about Putin…never has one of his cutesy names for Putin? Come to think of it…I never hear any Trumpster ever say anything bad about Putin either.

This confirms my suspicions about trolls being Russian Bots. It must be hell knowing that any day you could suffer an agonizing death at the hands of a Russian hit man if you fail to impress Putin with your loyalty. Now we understand why you are so obsessively strident and prudent with you posts.

And again. When is this "Great" era that all Trumpsters want to return to? I'm still waiting... ""Why don't you answer my question?" "You still haven't answered my question!!"

Oh, and by the way D-Rey. When is comes to "dick lickin" we're sure you are the champ. Who's kinky enough to cross dress as Diane (Chelsea Clinton) Reynolds? blah, blah, blah. Com'on D-Rey, we all know you're a man. You're not fooling anybody. Nice dress Chelsea!!

2950-10K's picture
2950-10K 39 weeks 5 days ago
#30

Today Thom got a call from a guy asking why neoliberalism isn't called neoconservatism? Thom gave him the right answer, but that man's question was far more important than just a quick explanation. In my opinion his question brought up something I've been pointing out forever. It's all about control of the message. We have to face it, most citizens have very little time for or interest in politics. In many cases lies are the only "truth" they know, so we end up with the Koch backed candidates and a pathological liar like Trump pissing all over the will of the people.

Words matter.....sure Fascist may sound extreme, but Oligarch doesn't even register with 98% of the voting population. The word liberal has been demonized as much as socialism. Entitilements??? Benghazi took on a, Hillary is a criminal, meaning. Some of us know the truth was, Petraeus didn't do his job, and the Kochbagger congress refused to fund security???? We need to learn how to fight back with truth compressed into slogans in the same manner the Fascists are using it to spread lies.

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jefflisse 39 weeks 5 days ago
#31

2950-10k
Totally agree. Like l said yesterday. The Dems need to message way better. I like your idea about catchy slogans.. As long as we can stick to the TRUTH! And as long as the message can be echoed by ALL the Dem. leadership... You know, like the Republicans all do with their bullshit scripted "talking points."

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2950-10K 39 weeks 5 days ago
#32

Stopgap.... door "Knobjob" is def a Russian bot. LOL

With the bond market about to implode, I suppose the era they want to return to is 1929! Good luck to the fed reserve on this one.

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HotCoffee 39 weeks 5 days ago
#33

You all whine about the cost of war while you keep trying to start one with Russia.

What the hell is wrong with you?

House intel said today no collusion by Russia with Trump.

Di Fi, Adam Shiff, Mad Max, said several times in the last few months no evidence of collusion with Russia.

Are you brain dead...never mind I know the answer.

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HotCoffee 39 weeks 5 days ago
#34

You all whine about the cost of war while you keep trying to start one with Russia.

What the hell is wrong with you?

House intel said today no collusion by Russia with Trump.

Di Fi, Adam Shiff, Mad Max, said several times in the last few months no evidence of collusion with Russia.

Are you brain dead...never mind I know the answer.

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2950-10K 39 weeks 5 days ago
#35

Jeff: I can never figure out why Dems don't go on offense, other than they don't want to appear rude or something. I agree, we have truth on our side...just need to package it for general consumption.

HotCoffee's picture
HotCoffee 39 weeks 5 days ago
#36

You all whine about the cost of war while you keep trying to start one with Russia.

Trump killed russians in Syria...but he didn't call Putin a silly name???

What the hell is wrong with you?

House intel said today no collusion by Russia with Trump.

Di Fi, Adam Shiff, Mad Max, said several times in the last few months no evidence of collusion with Russia.

Hillary is in India bad mouthing American Women for womens day, cause she's so pro women...??? Reason 9 million and one for why she lost.

Are you brain dead??...never mind I know the answer.

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2950-10K 39 weeks 5 days ago
#37

Coffee: So what tune would you be singing if Putin had helped to install Hillary, collusion or not? I'm sure you'll give us an honest answer. It's a fact that he meddled in our election despite your partisan feelings....and he supplied "Rocketman" with those long range rocket engines that can reach your front yard...but he'll blame it on Ukraine black market sales.

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2950-10K 39 weeks 5 days ago
#38

Trump on China abolishing presidential term limits..... "Maybe we'll give that a shot someday" Imagine the fallout if Obama had said that. Look at the leaders Trump prasies around the world.

Wake up..this is how it all gets started.

The bald faced hypocrisy of the trolls on this site can only be explained by the slick job of Foxaganda and other bloated rich man propaganda weapons.

Truth is not a matter of opinion just because you disagree with it.

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jefflisse 39 weeks 5 days ago
#39

Hey Reynolds
It's 10:20 PM. I'm going to hit the sack now. My alarm is set for 6:30am.
So, I'll get a good 8 hours of shut eye...

So good night. Hugs and kisses. ;-*
And l almost forgot...Merry Christmas!

HotCoffee's picture
HotCoffee 39 weeks 5 days ago
#40

2950,

I would sing the tune you all have been complaining that I sing about her now. And I believe she had plenty of help...from Obama & Eric Holder ( AG) and other protectors that allow her to try to lie cheat and steal the election thinking she couldn't get caught, cause anyone who would catch her was was aleady installed by B. Clinton and Obama to high places that would cover her. Who's going to prosacute her if Eric's AG? After all every poll said she would win....so where was the risk?

Does Putin try to intefer yes. But remember it was Obama who laughed and told Trump it was impossible for a foreign government to interfer, that Tump should quit whining and go get some votes...it was Hillary that wanted Trump to say he would except the results of the election, seems after more than a year she can't quite do that herself...do you remember any of that?

So if Hillary won I would be saying just what I'm saying now.

You asked...so maybe you can hold off your friends b*tching because I dared to say the HC word.

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stopgap 39 weeks 5 days ago
#41

Hey Gang, The Republican controlled House Intel Committee has decided that their was "no collusion." Well, I guess that's the end of that. NOT!!!!!

HC, Could you please provide me with proof that Di Fi, Adam Schiff and whoever Mad Max is, has said that there is no collusion? I've seemed to have missed it. It is highly unlikely that they could discuss openly, what would be classified information, from these House Intel sessions.

Again, "When are you going to answer my question" about the "Great" era that Republicans want to take us back to? "Why don't you answer my question?"

10K, I've said it here before numerous times about why we constantly have to waste our time with these rightwing rabbit holes. As Mark Twain said: "A lie gets halfway around the world, before the truth can get its boots on!"

Again Conservatives, I implore you! "Why don't you answer my question?" "When are you going to answer my question?...How long do we have to wait?...When was that "Great" era?...We're still waiting....Is there a reason that you won't answer the great "MAGA" question?...It seemed so important to Republicans, it's only fair that you should share this wonderful bit of knowledge with us. Then maybe we can understand the adoration that you have for Trump. We're eagerly waiting to join the team…but we need to know what we are supposed to be aiming for. Please, I beg of you!...Tell us!...Tell us. Inquiring minds want to know! Please, were begging you. How can we help you...if you won't tell us?

God, yet another night without knowing the secret of the "Great" era. And they wonder why we can't sleep. I'm begging you again! Tell us!!!...Tell us!!...Please don't torture us anymore! Tell us the answer to this great "MAGA" mystery.

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HotCoffee 39 weeks 5 days ago
#42

Stopgap..I'll give your questions the same respect you have given mine ...(" why should I waste my time")

It is pretty sad though that you can't think of one great time you've had in America...but maybe that has more to do with who you are than America

HotCoffee's picture
HotCoffee 39 weeks 5 days ago
#43

2950,

With all the Dems and many Rebs trying to take Trump down seems like a perfect time to me for those Russians + Iran + China + NK...to say, while USA is in turmoil and fighting among themselves lets take them down....have you ever played a game of chess? Read the art of war?

Have you heard the saying a house divided against it's self can not stand?

Should that happen being right about Tump just might not seem so important after all.

Perhaps that's why I waste my time here suggesting we come together in peace to find solutions instead of ripping each other apart.

And to Stopgap,

it's 8:59 and my husband is fine...you won't hear from him here he's working on alternative energy solutions. He doesn't do blogs.... more snow comming later this week so I'll hold off on weed wacking the forest...but I will be putting in a veggie garden as soon as the weathers right...that ok with you? The wild turkeys are fine and it's mating season all around the forest...soon will be able to walk a few yards down to the river and see the salmon baby's... a few more days and I'll have the website up I've been working on ....life is good...

but I'm sure you can make it miserable if you just try hard enough.

Diane,

I've got the fibulator ready!

Coalage3 39 weeks 5 days ago
#44

The republicans are not going to "turn back the clock" despite your protestations to the contrary. They are not going to ban abortions, they are not going to close the borders, they are not going to nuke NK (unless he shoots first), etc. Even under Reagan or Bush, time did not stand still.

What is wrong with you people, and what has happened to the democratic party in this country?

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Dianereynolds 39 weeks 5 days ago
#45

Good morning HotCoffee, it sounds like you have a great upcoming spring planned. Apparently both of us have figured a way to wander through life with all the associated drama that seems to plaque many that frequent here. This Trump election really put them way over the top and when it gets to the point that radio bobbleheads start talking about all those now in therapy it is crystal clear there are a lot of disturbed leftie/socialists loose in the marketplace.

Although I never agreed with anything during Obama’s term, and little of GW’s spending and war policies, there was no point during those 16 years I was anywhere near as crazy as I am seeing displayed here on a daily basis.

You come here to look for answers and I come here for its pure comedy. If it weren’t for a small number of us foils, this forum would quickly deteriorate even further than it has over the last couple of years. Proof of that is the fact we haven’t been kicked off long ago.

One quick question, what are your thought on California splitting into two States? In the past I would have been totally against that but the coastline has gone so far into the weeds I can understand the more rational thinking wishing to remove themselves from the crazies. Beautiful state, too bad much of it is being destroyed by the alt-left.

Have a great day working on your website and shoveling snow, and

Merry Christmas in advance for the bountiful gifts that surely will appear today from the malcontents in their coops and bunkers as soon as they figure out the correct time of day especially from DiFi over today's appointment of Gina Haspel to director of the CIA.

Source; me & CNN

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jefflisse 39 weeks 5 days ago
#46

Coffee# 43

I have to put the number on because you talk about so much crap in your posts..
Just curious, do you really think the Mueller Investigation is all about taking down Trump?
Even you cant be that ignorant, dumb, delusional, whatever?!?

I mean come on.. Investigating our (most sacred) election process being tampered with and manipulated by a foreign country. And in the process of investigation, determining if they had any domestic help.. You know, l believe "collusion" is the word used... Right?
Although.. I prefer the word "treason"!!

Legend 39 weeks 5 days ago
#47

#44. What is wrong with us? I guess that we actually read the news, is what is wrong with us. The White House is a daily train wreck. Do you not read and comprehend? Tillerson is fired today. Seems that Trump does not want to listen to the people that he appointed. So he sits in his bedroom watching Fox and Friends for guidance and tweets about what they brainwash him to say.

About the Republican Intelligence Comittee conclusion of investigation. Suggest you watch the whole thing. I have challenged you Trolls to watch and debunk Rachael Maddow and have never gotten a response.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf2PXarrqhw

Coalage3 39 weeks 5 days ago
#48

When Mueller actually indicts someone for collusion, then you can brag about how smart you are. Until then, not so much.

Yes, it appears the WH is in turmoil. And yet, the country is humming right along anyway. Even Stopgap couldn't really come up with anyway in which Trump has actually made his life worse. Makes you wonder what Trump might actually accomplish if he was more disciplined. Oh well, I doubt we will ever see that version of Trump.

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2950-10K 39 weeks 5 days ago
#49

stopgap #41: An important point to remember: The same GOP House that denies climate change denies collusion!

Coalage3 39 weeks 5 days ago
#50

What news have you been watching Legend?

I'll ask you again. Tell us how your life is now worse because of Trump being president.

All you guys can come up with is that you don't like Trump the person. Well, join the club. But so what? As I had a Trump voter tell me before the election, he was voting for a president, not a pope,

Is the economy good or bad? Has he started any new armed conflicts? Has there been massive layoffs and unemployment? For all his bluster about immigration, have there been mass deportations of illegals? How is Silicon Valley, and the tech sector, doing?

Come on...tell us how the country is now worse off. Specifics and actuals please, and this does not require a google search.

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