The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018

It seems it's all racism, all the time w/the GOP...Neo-Nazi robocall hits Iowa on Molly Tibbett’s murder: “KILL THEM ALL. ” Richard Wolff drops by about the National Debt. Is it a disaster or an OK thing? Also - Trump & The National Enquirer - Is the Economy Here To Serve Us Or Are We Here to Serve the economy? Has America Become a "Grifter" Country? Check out our short podcast today



Coalage3 38 weeks 6 days ago

Big lies? Well lets see...

During the campaign, Trump promised to cut taxes. No lie there. He promised to renegotiate unfavorable trade deals. Done. He promised to stimulate the economy. Big check on that one. He promised to increase military spending. Check.

He campaigned on building a wall on the southern border. Not yet, so I guess you're right. Trump lied.

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HotCoffee 38 weeks 6 days ago

"And turds don't fall far from the arse"....makes me glad I'm not at the back of that caravan, or live en route!

Have you noticed all the new diseases in So. Ca.?

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HotCoffee 38 weeks 6 days ago


The Official Trump Schadenfreude List

This is the Official Trump Schadenfreude List of people who made the mistake of starting a feud with President Donald John Trump. Each wound up worse for the ordeal. Check back from time to time. The list continues to grow, which proves many human beings are idiots.

1. Casey Affleck.

February 2017: "Casey Affleck Slams Trump Administration’s ‘Abhorrent’ Policies in Spirit Awards Speech."

November 2017: "Thousands Sign Petition To Keep Casey Affleck From Presenting At Oscars."

2. Alwaleed Bin Talal.

2016: "Billionaire Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Trolls Trump: ‘I Bailed You Out Twice.'"

2017: "Billionaire Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal arrested in corruption crackdown."

2018: "Saudi Prince Alwaleed’s Net Worth Tumbles 58%."

3. Michael Avenatti.

March 2018: "'The President May Be Able to Fire Mueller, but He Can’t Fire Me': Stormy Daniels’s Attorney Relishes His Role as Trump Nemesis Du Jour."

May 2018: "Avenatti Exposed: Stormy's Lawyer May Face Disbarment, Legal Action As Past Catches Up."

October 2018: "Judge dismisses Stormy Daniels' defamation lawsuit against Trump."

4. H. Brandt Ayers

2017: "Trump breaches moral line."

2018: "Anniston Star's ex-publisher spanked female employees in the 1970s, reports say."

5. Alec Baldwin.

2016: "Alec Baldwin totally nailed Trump on the 'SNL' premiere."

2017: "Alec Baldwin Admits He's 'Bullied Women,' Calls for a Change in Hollywood."

2018: "Baldwin bombs: Alec posts dismal numbers in his talk show debut on ABC, with premiere episode featuring Robert De Niro pulling in less than 2.5M viewers."

6. LaVar Ball.

November 2017: "LaVar Ball Is Feuding with Donald Trump Over His Son's Release From China."

December 2017: "LaVar Ball sends his sons to play in LITHUANIA after pulling them both out of school in the United States after UCLA-Trump row."

7. Mario Batali.

2017: "Mario Batali Predicts a 'Violent Revolution' Could Happen in America Over Food."

2018: "Famed chef Mario Batali’s Vegas Strip restaurants will close."

8. Michael Bennett.

2017: "Michael Bennett: Trump stooped so low with his NFL attacks."

2018: "Michael Bennett indicted for allegedly injuring elderly paraplegic at Super Bowl LI."

9. Bono.

2016: "Watch U2 Blast Donald Trump During San Francisco Show."

2018: "U2 cancel concert mid-show after Bono loses voice."

10. Maddie Bowman.

2017: "Olympic gold medal skier Maddie Bowman would turn down visit to the White House."

2018: "Team USA's Maddie Bowman Finishes 11th in Crushing Blow for Former Gold Medal Skier."

11. Tom Brokaw.

2015: "Legendary newsman Tom Brokaw says he would 'call in sick' if he had to cover Donald Trump every night."

2018: "Tom Brokaw Accused of Sexual Harassment By Former NBC Anchor."

12. Chris Brown.

2016: "Chris Brown Shades Donald Trump Over His Comments About Policing Thugs."

2018: "Chris Brown Pleads Not Guilty to Nightclub Assault.'

13. Jim Carrey.

March 2018: "Jim Carrey has been trolling Trump and the GOP with paintings."

May 2018: "What has happened to Jim Carrey? Once a revered comedian with a big fan base, Carrey hasn’t made a good movie in 10 years, and the ones he’s in have been box-office bombs."

August 2018: "Jim Carrey’s Aretha Franklin tribute draws backlash: ‘Why is she so white?’"

14. Hillary Clinton.

2016: "Clinton has 90 percent chance of winning."

2017: "Hillary, I love you. But please go away."

15. George Clooney.

2016: "Clooney's Vow: Trump Will Not Be President; See Trump's Response."

2017: "Clooney's 'Suburbicon' tanks, 'Saw' sequel No. 1 with $16.3M."

16. John Conyers.

2016: "Rep. John Conyers: Donald Trump Is the Next Richard Nixon."

2017: "Rep. John Conyers Jr. resigns over sexual harassment allegations."

17. David Corn.

2016: "MSNBC’s David Corn destroys Ann Coulter for defending Trump’s decision not to release tax returns."

2017: "David Corn investigated for inappropriate workplace behavior."

18. Bill Cosby.

2011: "Bill Cosby Rips Donald Trump On Today Show."

2018: "Bill Cosby convicted of drugging and molesting a woman."

19. Joe Crowley.

January 2018: "Crowley trashes Trump, talks upcoming races."

June 2018: "Top Democrat Crowley loses in shocker."

20. Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz.

2017: "Puerto Rico mayor weeps as she begs for help while Trump congratulates himself on 'good job' with aid."

2018: "Administration of Trump-bashing Puerto Rican mayor reportedly facing FBI corruption probe."

21. Stormy Daniels.

March 2018: "How the Stormy Daniels Scandal Could Bring Down Trump."

July 2018: "Adult Film Star Stormy Daniels’ Husband Files For Divorce."

22. Robert De Niro.

2016: "De Niro: I’d Like to Punch Trump In the Face."

2017: "De Niro film scores 24% on Rotten Tomatoes. Cost $15 million to make. Had a box office of $1.7 million."

2018: "Baldwin bombs: Alec posts dismal numbers in his talk show debut on ABC, with premiere episode featuring Robert De Niro pulling in less than 2.5M viewers."

23. Lena Dunham.

2016: "Lena Dunham: I'll move to Canada if Trump is president."

2017: "Lena Dunham Apologizes for Defending Girls Writer Accused of Rape."

24. England.

July 8, 2018: "London’s Mayor OK'd a Giant Baby Trump. Blimp to Fly Over the City."

July 11, 2018: "Donald Trump handed CROATIA shirt ahead of England match."

July 11, 2018: "World Cup: Croatia beats England 2-1 in extra time as Mario Mandzukic winner secures first-ever final."

25. Eminem.

October 2017: "Eminem unleashes on Trump: The 11 fiercest lines."

November 2017: "Eminem is SKEWERED on social media after his bizarre performance on SNL."

Bonus: "Rapper Eminem ‘extremely angry’ that Trump didn’t respond to castigating freestyle rap."

26. Peter Fonda.

June 20, 2018: "We should rip Barron Trump from his mother's arms and put him in a cage with pedophiles and see if mother will will stand up against the giant a--hole she is married to. 90 million people in the streets on the same weekend in the country. F---"

June 22, 2018: "‘Boundaries’ Has Tepid Indie Box Office Launch After Peter Fonda Tweets."

27. Al Franken.

2016: "Al Franken Hilariously Mocks Donald Trump."

2017: "Al Franken to Resign From Senate Amid Harassment Allegations."

28. Morgan Freeman.

February 2018: "'Shame on you, Mr. President': Morgan Freeman blames Donald Trump for Florida school shooting."

May 2018: "Women accuse Morgan Freeman of inappropriate behavior, harassment."

29. GQ.

2016: "If You Vote For Trump, Then Screw You."

2017: "Layoffs Hit GQ as Condé Nast Cuts Continue."

30. Kathy Griffin.

2016: "Kathy Griffin Thinks Comedy Should Go All Out on ‘President Piece of Shit’ Donald Trump."

2017: "CNN fires Kathy Griffin."

2018: "Kathy Griffin Snaps on Twitter, Freaks Out After Heckler Asks About Pedophile Brother."

31. James Gunn.

2017: "James Gunn Doesn’t Care If Bashing Donald Trump Loses Him Fans, Compares the President to Hitler and Putin."

2018: "James Gunn Fired From ‘Guardians Of The Galaxy’ Franchise Over Offensive Tweets."

32. Chelsea Handler.

2017: "Chelsea Handler says Trump's presidency motivated her to leave her talk show for activism."

Actually: "Chelsea Handler's Netflix Show Canceled After 2 Seasons."

33. Alcee Hastings.

2016: "Democratic congressman calls Donald Trump 'pile of excrement.'"

2017: "Taxpayers paid $220K to settle sexual harassment case involving Hastings."

34. Stephen Henderson.

2016: "Henderson: Vote for Trump was a consent, purposeful or not, to bigotry."

2017: "Free Press’ Stephen Henderson terminated for misconduct."

35. Jemele Hill.

2017: "ESPN anchor blasts Trump as ‘white supremacist.’"

2018: "Jemele Hill is out at ESPN."

36. David Hogg.

March 4: "Florida shooting survivor David Hogg says he hung up on the White House during a call inviting him to Trump's listening session."


37. Kino Jimenez.

2018: "Bartender fired after video emerges of him angrily ripping a MAGA hat and clump of hair from the head of a boy, 16, and throwing a drink at him as he ate at Whataburger."

A day later: "Kino Jimenez Arrested, Accused of Felony Theft."

38. Megyn Kelly.

2016: "GOP Debate: Donald Trump's 'Spat' With Megyn Kelly Is Sexism."

2017: "Megyn Kelly drags down 'Today' ratings."

39. Garrison Keillor.

2016: “So, he won. The nation takes a deep breath. Raw ego and proud illiteracy have won out and a severely learning-disabled man with a real character problem will be president. We are so exhausted from thinking about this election, millions of people will take up leaf-raking and garage cleaning with intense pleasure. We liberal elitists are wrecks. The Trumpers had a whale of a good time, waving their signs, jeering at the media, beating up protesters, chanting ‘Lock her up’ — we elitists just stood and clapped. Nobody chanted ‘Stronger Together.’ It just doesn't chant.”

2017: "Minnesota Public Radio Fires Garrison Keillor Over Allegations of Improper Conduct."

40. Brian Krzanich.

2017: "Intel CEO Brian Krzanich drops out of Trump council."

2018: "Intel's Brian Krzanich is forced out as CEO after 'consensual relationship' with employee."

41. Shia LaBeouf.

January 2017: "Shia LaBeouf arrested at his anti-Trump art installation."

April 2017: "Shia LaBeouf Thriller ‘Man Down’ Sells Just One Ticket at U.K. Box Office."

42. Lady Gamecocks.

2017: "South Carolina women's basketball team declines Trump's invite to White House."

2018: "UConn routs South Carolina 94-65, heads back to Final Four."

43. Jennifer Lawrence.

2017: "Jennifer Lawrence Would Like to Throw a Martini at President Donald Trump's Face."

2018: "Box Office Poison: Jennifer Lawrence’s ‘Red Sparrow’ Bottoms Out at $17 Million."

44. Ryan Lizza.

2016: "Trump Gets Ready to Be a Bad Loser."

2017: "New Yorker Fires Star Reporter Ryan Lizza Over 'Improper Sexual Conduct'."

45. Louis C.K.

2016: "Louis C.K. Compares Donald Trump to Hitler: ‘He’s an Insane Bigot.’"

2017: "FX fires Louis C.K. after comic confirms sexual misconduct claims."

46. Macy's.

2015: "Macy's Drops Donald Trump's Fashion Line Over Immigrant Remarks."

2017: "Macy's Announces Store Closings for 2017."

47. Bishop McElroy.

2017: "San Diego's Bishop McElroy wants disruption in the Trump era."

2018: "Bishop McElroy to address sexual abuse crisis at public forums."

48. Rose McGowan.

2016: "Rose McGowan Blasts Donald Trump, Murdochs, Networks in Open Letter: 'You Are Causing a Worldwide Sickness.'"

2018: "Rose McGowan Indicted for Cocaine Possession."

49. Meathead.

2016: "Rob Reiner: We are living ‘All in the Family,’ and Donald Trump is Archie Bunker."

2018: "Rob Reiner’s Iraq War movie SHOCK AND AWE earned $41,000 this weekend. Not a misprint."

50. Alyssa Milano.

March 2017: "Alyssa Milano on Trump: 'Removing him will be up to' women."

June 2017: "Anti-Trumper Alyssa Milano is broke as a joke, didn’t pay taxes and stiffed her employees."

51. Evan McMullin.

2016: "Why Evan McMullin Says Donald Trump Is More Dangerous Than ISIS."

2018: "Evan McMullin Potentially In Violation Of Campaign Finance Laws, Records Show."

52. Mac Miller.

2017: "Mac Miller: Donald Trump wants to 'make America white again.'"

2018: "Mac Miller Arrested for DUI, Hit and Run."

53. Mayor Ed Murray.

2016: Democratic "Seattle mayor decries Trump, says immigrants welcome."

2017: "Seattle Mayor Resigns After Multiple Sexual Abuse Allegations."

54. Rupert Myers.

January 2017: "British GQ writer: Could Obama ‘murder Trump and Pence’ then pardon himself?"

October 2017: "Male feminist writer fired by GQ Magazine after woman accuses him of sexual assault."

55. New York Daily News.

January 2018: "The Daily News, with its cartoonish pile of poo emoji on its front page, may wind up becoming the “collectible” image from this particular moment."

July 2018: "Massive job cuts expected at the Daily News."

56. NFL.

September 2017: "After Trump Blasts N.F.L., Players Kneel and Lock Arms in Solidarity."

November 2017: "NFL TV Partners Set To Lose Up To $500 Million On Ratings Decline."

57. Barack Obama.

During the campaign, Trump tweeted, "President Obama will go down as perhaps the worst president in the history of the United States!"

Obama went on Jimmy Kimmel's show, read the tweet, and replied, "At least I'll go down as a president."

Fifteen days later, we elected Trump to erase Obama's legacy.

58. Rosie O'Donnell.

1996: "Queen of Nice Can Rosie O'Donnell Clean Up Trash TV?"

2017: "Rosie O’Donnell Admits: ‘I Spend 90% Of My Hours Tweeting Hatred’ At Trump."

59. Tim Pawlenty.

2016: "Ex-Gov. Pawlenty calls Trump ‘unhinged,’ drops support."

2018: "Pawlenty, who called Trump 'unfit and unhinged,' derailed in comeback attempt in Minnesota; battle lines drawn in Connecticut."

60. Playboy.

2016: "Hugh Hefner's son feels 'personal embarrassment' that Trump was on Playboy's cover."

2017: "Playboy considers closing down magazine to concentrate on nightclubs and casinos just months after death of founder Hugh Hefner."

61. Tony Podesta.

2010: "Tony Podesta, Superlobbyist."

2017: "Tony Podesta stepping down from lobbying giant amid Mueller probe."

62. Gregg Popovich.

2017: "Gregg Popovich Issues Blistering Takedown of ‘Soulless Coward’ Donald Trump."

2018: "Spurs season ends with hard-fought, last minute loss to Warriors in Game 5."

63. Jorge Ramos.

2015: "In taking on Jorge Ramos, Donald Trump may have tussled with the wrong media star."

2016: "Amid $30.5M Revenue Losses, Ratings Drop And Elusive IPO, Univision Restructures, Slashes 250 Jobs."

2018: "Jorge Ramos Eyeing Return to Mexico."

64. Brett Ratner.

June 2017: "Brett Ratner Regrets Not Naming 'Tower Heist' After Trump."

November 2017: "Six women accuse filmmaker Brett Ratner of sexual harassment or misconduct."

65. Red Hen Restaurant.

June 2018: "Restaurant Owner Says She Asked Sarah Sanders to Leave Because She Works for 'Inhumane' Administration."

September 2018: "A small town in Virginia is trying to recover its image after The Red Hen restaurant famously refused to serve President Donald Trump's spokeswoman, Sarah Huckabee Sanders."

66. Brian Ross.

2018: "Brian Ross is leaving ABC after botched Michael Flynn report."

67. Sacramento Area Woman.

March 2018: "She won't sell her Sacramento home to Trump supporters."

August 2018: "She refused to sell her house to Trump supporters, now it’s $100,000 lower."

68. Eric Schmidt.

January 2017: "Google's Eric Schmidt: Trump Administration Will Do Evil Things."

December 2017: "Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt is stepping down as Alphabet’s executive chairman."

69. Eric Schneiderman.

February 2018: "Will This Man Take Down Donald Trump?"

May 2018: "Four Women Accuse New York’s Attorney General of Physical Abuse."

May 2018: "NY Attorney General Schneiderman Resigns After Abuse Accusations."

70. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

2016: "Arnold Schwarzenegger: ‘I Will Not Vote for the Republican Candidate for President.’"

2017: "He won't be back: Schwarzenegger's Terminator franchise terminated."

2017: "Arnold Schwarzenegger's Legend of Conan Isn't Happening."

2017: "Donald Trump Says Arnold Schwarzenegger Fired From ‘Celebrity Apprentice.’"

71. Andy Signore.

June 2017: "I am so damn sick of bully @realDonaldTrump taking words out of context to act out his agenda of fear, corruption & bigotry. #NotMyPresident."

October 2017: "‘Honest Trailers’ Creator Andy Signore Fired for ‘Egregious and Intolerable’ Sexual Behavior."

72. John Skipper.

October 2017: "Report: ESPN’s John Skipper Attacks President Trump, Fox News, and Clay Travis, in Private Employee Meeting."

December 2017: "John Skipper's resignation caps a tumultuous year at ESPN."

73. Tavis Smiley.

2016: "Tavis Smiley: BFOTs (Black Friends of Trump) Are Normalizing Racism."

2017: "PBS Suspends Tavis Smiley For Allegedly Forcing Women and Men to Have Sex With Him to Keep Their Jobs."

74. George Soros.

2016: "George Soros Says Donald Trump and Ted Cruz are ISIS' Biggest Weapon."

2018: "George Soros Complains: ‘Everything That Could Go Wrong, Has Gone Wrong.’"

75. Kevin Spacey.

2016: "Kevin Spacey mocks Donald Trump and calls him a 'disease' at Cannes."

2017: "Actor Anthony Rapp: Kevin Spacey Made A Sexual Advance Toward Me When I Was 14."

2018: "Box Office: Kevin Spacey's 'Billionaire Boys Club' Earns Abysmal $126 on Opening Day."

76. Starbucks.

2017: "Starbucks' Howard Schultz told workers Trump created 'chaos' that is hurting economy."

2018: "Calls grow to boycott Starbucks after two black men arrested for not making order."

77. George Takei.

2016: "George Takei: Trump's Muslim registry is 'prelude to internment'."

2017: "George Takei’s Facebook empire strains under sexual harassment allegations."

78. Teen Vogue.

2016: "Donald Trump Is Gaslighting America."

2017: "Teen Vogue is going to cease printing."

79. Justin Trudeau.

June 2018: "Justin Trudeau's G7 comments that angered Donald Trump – video."

September 2018: "Canadian Economy Loses 51,600 Jobs in August – Biggest Drop in Decade."

80. Malcolm Turnbull.

2017: "Australian PM Malcolm Turnbull mocks Donald Trump in leaked recording."

2018: "Turnbull resigns."

81. Univision.

2015: "Univision drops USA pageant over Trump remarks."

2017: "After Insults And $500 Million Lawsuit Settlement, Univision Execs Meet With Trump."

2018: "Univision Sees 10% Drop in First Quarter Profits."

82. Village Voice.

2017: "Now That Roy Moore Lost, Can We Impeach Trump?"

2018: "New York's iconic Village Voice folds after more than 60 years."

83. Lindsey Vonn.

2017: "Lindsey Vonn says she doesn't want to represent Donald Trump at Olympics."

2018: "Lindsey Vonn Loses Super-G Medal in Last-Second Mistake."

84. Elizabeth Warren.

June 2018: "Elizabeth Warren knocks Trump, brings Democrats to their feet in Reno" (since changed to "In Reno speech, Sen. Elizabeth Warren says Democrats must 'clean up' after Trump.")

October 2018: "Media embrace of Warren's 1/1,024th heritage an epic failure."

85. Harvey Weinstein.

2016: "Harvey Weinstein says Trump 'appeals to the worst in us'."

2017: "Harvey Weinstein Is Fired After Sexual Harassment Reports."

86. The White House Correspondents' Association. 2017: "The WHCA board is protesting strongly against how today's gaggle is being handled by the White House."

2018: "Comedian Kathy Griffin is the Only Recognizable 'Name' at the White House Correspondents Dinner." 87. Brian Williams.

2012: "Donald Trump has driven well past the last exit to relevance and veered into something closer to irresponsible."

2015: "Brian Williams Demoted to MSNBC Breaking News Anchor."

88. Kevin D. Williamson.

2015: "Witless Ape Rides Escalator."

2018: "Atlantic Fires Kevin Williamson After Suddenly Realizing He Believes The Things He Says.

89. Michelle Wolf.

April 2018: "Michelle Wolf DESTROYS Trump at 2018 Correspondents Dinner Roast (Full Speech)."

August 2018: "Netflix Cancels Michelle Wolf’s Talk Show After Less Than Three Months."

90. YG.

2018: "‘F**k Donald Trump’ Rapper YG Charged with Felony Robbery."

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deepspace 38 weeks 6 days ago

Deflect, obfuscate, lie (NWO), whatever TF. ​Imigh leat, oinseach!

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deepspace 38 weeks 6 days ago

"9 Ways Authoritarianism Is Taking Hold Under Trump
-- The president and his neo-authoritarian acolytes are following an ancient playbook."

By Thom Hartmann (Independent Media Institute May 29, 2018, distributed to

As our country slides into an ugly Americanized form of neofascism, there’s good news: nonviolent protest, when in the service of progressive, egalitarian goals, almost always wins out when it reaches a national critical mass. And we may well be on the verge of that right now. But we must understand what we’re up against.

Donald Trump and his neo-authoritarian acolytes are following an ancient playbook.

Part Machiavelli, part Caesar, part Mugabe/Duterte/Mao, it always includes a few simple and primary elements of seizing and subverting normal political power.

Here's how the president is building authoritarian institutions.

1. Lie Often — Lie Big.

As President Franklin D. Roosevelt pointed out, the Big Lie technique wasn't invented by Hitler but was essential to his success, and in the 1944 election, the Republican Party began to turn it on Democrats.

FDR wasn't having any of it.

“The opposition, in this year, has already imported into this campaign a very interesting thing, because it’s foreign,” FDR told the nation during that year’s presidential campaign.

“They’ve imported the propaganda technique invented by the dictators abroad,” FDR said. “Remember a number of years ago there was a book, Mein Kampf, written by Hitler himself. The technique was all set out in Hitler’s book and was copied by the aggressors of Italy and Japan.

“According to that technique, you should never use a small falsehood. Always a big one. For its very fantastic nature would make it more credible. If only you keep repeating it over, and over, and over again.”

As George Lakoff pointed out in his brilliantly titled book Don’t Think of an Elephant, in order for us to process a lie—even knowing it’s a lie—we must first imagine it as a truth, a reality. (I also wrote at length about this in my book on using neuro-linguistic programming [NLP] in politics, Cracking the Code.)

If you hear, “Don’t run into the street,” you must first imagine running into the street to know what “don’t run into the street” means. You have to clearly visualize it.

If you hear “FBI spies were in my campaign,” you must first clearly imagine FBI spies in the Trump campaign, before you can process the fact that every intelligence agency and even the administration itself say that there were no spies (unless they were foreign) within the Trump campaign.

That simple act of creating the visualization that is then knocked down by the correction of the lie, instead embeds itself into consciousness as a temporary pseudo-reality and, for people inclined to believe, the actual belief of reality, of the asserted lie. From there, the lie makes its way to the conscious mind as a belief or “fact.”

Whether the lie is about a particular religion or race being “vermin” or “animals,” and whether it’s said in 1934 or 2018, doesn't much matter: once the mental picture is formed, reality begins to waver for even the most well-informed among us.

And trying to rebut the lie only strengths it, because the rebuttal presupposes the possibility that the lie could be true. Every time a Trump or GOP lie is rebutted, it’s also repeated: The rebuttal actually strengthens, in the minds of the already-converted, the reality of the lie, and makes it easier for the uncertain to begin to believe it.

This is why fully 48 percent of Republicans believe that over 3 million undocumented immigrants voted in the 2016 election, and similar or higher percentages of Republicans believe climate change is a hoax, the GOP tax cuts “for the middle class” were real, and that deregulating environmental and workplace protections will lead to higher wages and more jobs.

All lies; all repeated over and over again; all believed.

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"9 Ways Trump's Authoritarianism Taking Hold" by Thom Hartmann

2. Consolidate Power While Challenging or Co-Opting Institutions That Enforce Accountability.

Every authoritarian leader who’s come to power in history, from Samaria 7,000 years ago to today’s administration from the White House at the top, to the EPA under Scott Pruitt, makes this their second big move. Weaken the institutions of accountability, while intimidating your own allies into submissive servility.

That judge was a Mexican. The investigation into Trump is a witch hunt. Congress doesn't have the authority to investigate Republicans.

People in Trump’s own party, like Corker, McCain, and Flake, who are willing to challenge the president, got politically destroyed, so others became afraid to challenge him. Meanwhile, those American politicians and foreign powers that suck up to him and his relatives in the Trump Crime Family are richly rewarded.

This behavior is a calling card of tin-pot dictators, but it’s also the key to the power held by most national-scale modern authoritarian regimes. And once the allies of Dear Leader begin to bow to the authoritarian on bended knee, the process can take on a momentum that makes it unstoppable until it’s totally and irrevocably defeated by an external power (think Germany, Italy, Spain, and Japan in World War II).

Packing the courts is the final step in this process, as we’ve seen in every country in history where democracy has died. Senate Majority Leader Republican Mitch McConnell set this process up by denying President Obama his constitutionally provided-for court appointments, ranging from the most routine to the Supreme Court itself. Now the GOP court-packing operation, even to the point of defying centuries-old Senate traditions like blue-slipping, has moved into hyper-gear.

Even “prison reform” efforts have been co-opted to include “mens rea (“state of mind”) changes in the law that will insulate CEOs and billionaire corporate owners from decisions they make that lead to death or environmental destruction if the prosecution can’t prove that such an outcome was not only predictable, but was their specific intent. It will end corporate perp walks for all but the lowest-level flunkies, and is tied to virtually every Republican or bipartisan “sentencing reform” effort.

And to the extent that the electorate may hold these new authoritarians in check by voting them out of office, wide swaths of the American electorate are being purged from voting rolls with Kansas’s Kris Kobach’s Interstate Crosscheck program, or blocked from voting for lack of the “Republican-certified ID” like a state-issued concealed carry permit (students with government-issued student ID need not apply to vote).

If they successfully navigate all these barriers, voters (particularly minority voters, or voters in Democratic-heavy districts) still find that their voting machines, like the ones in Detroit in 2016 that failed to record over 75,000 votes for president (Trump won Michigan by fewer than 11,000 votes), are “defective.” If they do work at all, they’re put out in such small numbers that working people must wait in lines for 6 to 12 hours.

The speed with which these deeply anti-democratic changes are happening in America today is, to most historians, extremely alarming.

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"9 Ways Trump's Authoritarianism Taking Hold" by Thom Hartmann

3. Attack the Press.

British conservative (and advocate of the American Revolution) Edmund Burke coined the phrase “the fourth estate” in 1787 to describe the press when arguing that Parliament should open itself up to newspaper reporters. Along with the legislative, executive, and judicial “estates” of governance, every functional republic since that era has included strong protections of the press as a pseudo fourth branch of governance, an explicit and public check on the abuse of power.

But to an autocrat whose wealth, power, and longevity in office depend on the abuse of power, a free and independent press is a danger. This is why Hitler shut down the independent press in 1933-’34, although he kept the appearance of press diversity by allowing many of the formerly independent newspapers to be acquired by media companies his cronies owned.

Historically, the two strategies emerging autocracies use in this regard are to:
1.) Attack the credibility and right to existence of the independent media while,
2.) Consolidating and expanding the reach and power of friendly media, typically owned by cronies of the autocrat.

Between cries of “fake news” and “pull their credentials” directed at “legacy media”; a push for corporate concentration of that media that started when the Reagan administration ended the Fairness Doctrine and corporatized NPR; and the elevation of billionaire-owned/affiliated media outlets like Fox, Sinclair, and the large terrestrial radio networks that pretty much exclusively carry right-wing talk radio, this process is already far down the road in the United States.

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Dianereynolds 38 weeks 6 days ago

HotCoffee, you are working too hard. Relax and enjoy the view.

I thought of your fine State as I went to replace one of my small two gallon gas cans.

I had long forgotten about California back a few years past, fretting over the amount of fumes that has the possibility of escaping into the air when someone put gas in their small engines, so they pushed the EPA to create a law that forced all the manufacturers of that simple $2 red gas can to build a new style spout that made it virtually impossible to pour gas into a small engine without spilling more gas than you put in the tank resulting in more gasoline vapor in the air in one tank fill than the previous simple spout did in a year. So we are all now left with a product that works so poorly that changes must be made to it every year to satisfy customer complaints and , that simple $2 gas can is now nearly $20 and it still doesn’t work.

The good news,

Al Gores invention, the internet, has multiple solutions and capitalism and ingenuity came to the rescue. If you ever find yourself in need of a spout that actually works and will help the environment as opposed to the typical idiotic EPA solution, took to EZ Pour can spouts. I doubt they are sold in CA as you are still under communist control but I suspect you can smuggle a couple in with your next out of state plastic straw purchase.

Have a good one.

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"9 Ways Trump's Authoritarianism Taking Hold" by Thom Hartmann

4. Vilify Protesters, Minorities, and Political “Enemies” to the Point of Provoking Violence.

This administration and the GOP they’ve captured have become the party “of dreadful fear and hate” that President Dwight Eisenhower warned against. We see it in institutionalized police violence against African Americans and immigrants; excessive arrests and punishments of people protesting Trump’s inauguration and speeches; new laws punishing journalists for reporting on factory farm and corporate environmental abuses; and violence-tinged rhetoric against “Mexican rapists,” using MS-13 as a rhetorical proxy for Hispanics, and saying Black NFL players hate/disrespect our flag and country, among other things.

And by accusing the other side of what they, themselves are doing, these new authoritarians deflect attention from their own very intentional strategy. Just google the words “Trump attacks liberals” without the quotation marks to see page after page of over-the-top snowflake-like examples of conservative media and politicians complaining that liberals are “unfairly attacking” Trump and the GOP.

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"9 Ways Trump's Authoritarianism Taking Hold" by Thom Hartmann

5. Scapegoat Minority Groups to Rile Up a Mob Mentality.

Sadly, one of the psychological legacies we share with other predatory mammals is the ability to instinctually form “packs” and drop into pack-like behavior, particularly against those who are weak or wounded. Although we have an intellect that should protect us from such behavior, the instincts wired into our DNA will always beat our thought processes, at least over the short term.

Fascists and authoritarians use this core mammalian instinct, paraphrasing Sinclair Lewis, to “rouse up the rubes.”

While this was a common feature of American politics in the century following the Declaration of Independence when it was directed by white politicians and police authorities against Native Americans and slaves, and popped up in the 1880s against Chinese immigrants, the modern Trump Party has resurrected it to use against immigrant children, women, religious and racial minorities, and the LGBTQ community.

Not to mention provoking violence against “libtards” like Heather Heyer, whom Trump’s “very fine people” murdered last year in Charlottesville, Virginia. (I don’t want to include links in this article to neo-Nazi sites, but just google “libtard heather heyer” without the quotes; you’ll be shocked.)

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Dianereynolds 38 weeks 6 days ago


For your breakfast viewing enjoyment,

Your classic leftie/socialist who lost his/her/alphabet's mob.

Feed those turkeys.


A rather nice turn of events. The angry leftie/socialist that thought it was a good idea to verbally attack the widow of a police officer that lost his life on 911, not only publicly made an ass of himself but HE WAS FIRED FROM HIS JOB. what sweet justice.

Hopefully this useless waste of skin can be taught the words, "would you like fries with your burger"

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HotCoffee 38 weeks 6 days ago


Many years ago I met 3 skinheads living in S.F. and my question to you and Thom is, does that mean S.F. is a Nazi, Fascist City or does it mean all of Ca. is fascist or the USA??

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HotCoffee 38 weeks 6 days ago


Gooood evening,

Those gas spouts are a pain in the ass! I take them off and use a funnel.

What a pig picking on that woman. read he wasn't so brave when a couple of actual men showed up...:)

My son lived in Rock, TX for a couple years, he was a union carpenter in Ca. and couldn't get a job on any construction crew there (TX) because he didn't speak spanish.

So if we let the caravan in how many do you think will be in the next caravan? 50 thousand?? A hundred thousand.

I will say though, so far, the mob headed north is better behaved than the mob on the left.

Naw....not working hard , it seems to be keeping DS busy though, looks like he/she et al. needed a nap somewhere aound #5. :)

Enjoy the sunset...and the rest of the evening.

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deepspace 38 weeks 6 days ago


"9 Ways Trump's Authoritarianism Taking Hold" by Thom Hartmann

6. Elevate One Religion That You Can Control (and Reward) While Trashing Others.

After World War II, one of the most interesting and conspicuous of the suicides in Germany was that of the Reich’s Bishop, Ludwig Müller. Elevated to the head of the German evangelical movement by Hitler himself, Müller became the most wealthy and powerful member of Germany’s clergy during the Reich. At first skeptical of the Fuhrer, he later told his colleagues that the “great goods” that Hitler would bring the church far outweighed his failings as either a person or a leader.

Müller was neither the first nor the last religious leader to both exploit and be exploited by an authoritarian regime.

Authoritarian leaders almost always use members of minority religions as scapegoats. What’s less well realized is that they almost always (the one modern exception was communism) favor one particular religious group, and use the wealth and power of the state to shower favors on that group so long as that group helps keep them in power.

Along those lines, in 1988 the campaign of George H.W. Bush against Michael Dukakis brought onboard an outspoken fundamentalist evangelical Christian to lead their “religious outreach” efforts. Ex-alcoholic, saved-by-Jesus credentialed “black sheep of the family” George W. Bush worked hard through that campaign to bring religious leaders who were skeptical of the religious enthusiasm of George Senior into that 1988 campaign.

Bush Jr.’s efforts were largely successful and were repeated and amped up during his own presidency, as Jerry Falwell and his ilk became regular fixtures in the White House. In bright contrast to Republicans from Warren Harding to Dwight Eisenhower, that established the foundation for a clear quid pro quo relationship between white evangelical leaders and Republicans.

Now the religious right wants their payback.

Taking a cue from ALEC—that right-wing, billionaire-funded group that brings together state lawmakers and lobbyists to write “model” legislation on behalf of corporate interests in exchange for their funding GOP politicians—the new group is called Project Blitz. They’re working explicitly and publicly to change the legal landscape of America with regard to religion.

As Katherine Stewart wrote for the New York Times, “The idea behind Project Blitz is to overwhelm state legislatures with bills based on centrally manufactured legislation.” She quotes “Christian nationalist” David Barton as saying, “It’s kind of like whack-a-mole for the other side; it’ll drive ’em crazy that they’ll have to divide their resources out in opposing this.”

Americans United for Separation of Church and State has, so far, identified more than 70 pieces of state legislation derived from Project Blitz, with more to come. In Oklahoma, Stewart writes, it’s a bill that allows discrimination in adoptions; in Minnesota, it’s legislation unconstitutionally letting publicly paid-for schools to post “In God We Trust” in their classrooms.

Contrary to Barton’s revisionist history, this was not how the Founders saw things.

In the summer of 1786, Thomas Jefferson was the U.S. government’s official envoy, essentially an ambassador, to France. While there, he was horrified by the way the Catholic Church dictated terms to both people and government.

On August 13th, he wrote a long letter to his old friend, teacher, and mentor George Wythe, then a judge in Virginia. Jefferson started out by commenting on how his (he first demanded it, then wrote parts of it) First Amendment to the Constitution had been well received by the Parisian intelligentsia:

“Our act for freedom of religion is extremely applauded. The ambassadors and ministers of the several nations of Europe, resident at this Court, have asked of me copies of it, to send to their sovereigns, and it is inserted at full length in several books now in the press; among others, in the new Encyclopedie. I think it will produce considerable good even in these countries, where ignorance, superstition, poverty, and oppression of body and mind, in every form, are so firmly settled on the mass of the people, that their redemption from them can never be hoped. …

“If anybody thinks that kings, nobles, or priests are good conservators of the public happiness, send him here. It is the best school in the universe to cure him of that folly. He will see here, with his own eyes, that these descriptions of men are an abandoned confederacy against the happiness of the mass of the people.”

Noting that the people of France had been “loaded with misery” by “nobles and priests, and by them alone,” Jefferson ended his letter with a call for Wythe to join him in his crusade against religion burrowing into the newly formed government of the United States by using the power of Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution to build a free public school system:

“Preach, my dear Sir, a crusade against ignorance; establish and improve the law for educating the common people. Let our countrymen know, that the people alone can protect us against these evils, and that the tax which will be paid for this purpose, is not more than the thousandth part of what will be paid to kings, priests and nobles, who will rise up among us if we leave the people in ignorance. But it needs but half an eye to see, when among them, that the foundation is laid in their dispositions for the establishment of a despotism.”

The religious right has made a metaphorical “deal with the devil” in Trump and the GOP that would have horrified the Founders of this nation, but is found in the storyline of nearly every authoritarian government in history. And now these so-called “Christians” want to leverage that power into ever-greater control over our minds and ever-greater access to our bank accounts.

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"9 Ways Trump's Authoritarianism Taking Hold" by Thom Hartmann

7. Co-opt and Make Institutions of Military and Police Power into Loyal Sycophants.

Without the police and the military on their side, a tyrant’s days in office are inevitably numbered.

That’s why one of the hallmark behaviors of authoritarian leadership and its media supporters is to praise and empower, to the point of fetishizing, the police and the military. They then amplify this with elaborate displays of symbolic patriotism like singing the national song and hyper-displaying the flag.

From attacking NFL players for protesting police violence against unarmed Black people to telling a crowd of police officers to not be professional or respectful when arresting people, to chest-thumping about our military as “the most powerful ever,” Trump doesn't even try to be subtle about his threats. The next step, if he follows the well-worn authoritarian path, is to put on Saddam Hussein-style military parades.

Meanwhile, the process that Ronald Reagan began, and Newt Gingrich sped up with his 1033 program, of redirecting billions of dollars of military funds, hardware and training to police departments, begins the process of turning ordinary police agencies into praetorian guards to solidify the power of the now-captured state.

Exempting police unions from crackdowns on other government employee union activities, like Scott Walker did in Wisconsin, hastens the process by ensuring the loyalty of the one legally armed, duty-sworn agency of government.

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HotCoffee 38 weeks 5 days ago



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HotCoffee 38 weeks 5 days ago


Good morning....Turkeys fed!

Republicans outpacing Democrats in early voting in key states, NBC News finds

Republican-affiliated voters have outpaced Democratic-affiliated voters in early voting in seven closely watched states, according to data provided by TargetSmart and independently analyzed by the NBC News Data Analytics Lab.

Only in Nevada have Democratic-affiliated voters exceeded Republican-affiliated voters so far in early voting, according to the data.

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Rick Loll 38 weeks 5 days ago

Thom, My fundamental question that nobody is letting us hear, why should I vote or contribute to a system I hate, namely the US Constitution and government, no matter who wins? I want the 7C Constitution, because it's 100 times better, and gives me what I want, real rights, instead of the near useless issues any party gives.
I'm not trolling, but you've lost us because you have no real system that works for the people. The US Givernment to the rich is a F***ed up dead system.
Do you know what makes the parties the same? Because both love punishment, torture, and capitalism, and hate Guild Socialism. We need to make everything free and based on love. Free food, housing, water, clothes, utilities, medical, etc. It's all in 7C. That person in comment #1 sounds like a Russian troll, because nobody from America can think in the upside down twisted logic like that, just to anger progressives, who never get angry. We love all people.

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HotCoffee 38 weeks 5 days ago

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deepspace 38 weeks 5 days ago

Rick Loll,

Nothing happens unless you vote -- even in a democracy as sick as ours. Unfortunately, one must begin with how the world is, not how it's wished to be.

Nevertheless, as spiritual beings, humans must also recognize their inner potential to create "a more perfect union." A society in decline very much needs visionaries like you to remind us of that potential, as much as it needs cold-eyed pragmatists to point out the hard realities of our selfish, petty, greedy, violent nature, which is quite literally destroying the very civilization and environment upon which we all depend.

Bending our elected representatives -- who are not our "leaders" -- to our will is of utmost importance. When we -- as a people -- don't fight back at the ballot box and only argue futilely among ourselves, then the billionaire class inevitably will slip into the vacuum and destroy what little is left of our People's government. History is quite clear about that inevitability.

Rather than less people voting, this democracy needs more people taking responsibility for the course of our government and constitution.

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deepspace 38 weeks 5 days ago


"9 Ways Trump's Authoritarianism Taking Hold" by Thom Hartmann

8. Ignore Competence and Incompetence; Only Loyalty Matters—and Is Richly Rewarded.

Mainstream Republicans on TV seem baffled as to why Trump would want clearly incompetent people like Ben Carson, Betsy DeVos, and Wilbur Ross in Cabinet positions where they run major governmental agencies.

Similarly, average Americans can’t figure out why Ryan Zinke (Interior) is intent on selling off our national parks to mining and drilling companies; why Scott Pruitt (EPA) is hell-bent on destroying the quality of our air and water; and why Mick Mulvaney (OMB and CFPB) wants to hand banking and general corporate regulation over to the lobbyists for the banks and payday lenders.

While some of this, particularly the last three mentioned, is really all about shifting power in America away from government protections of consumers/workers and toward giving such power to the billionaire/corporate class, the key to the whole thing is loyalty.

When Trump introduced a raised-arm loyalty oath at his campaign rallies in 2016, even Glenn Beck said on ABC, “We all look at Adolf Hitler in 1940. We should look at Adolf Hitler in 1929. Donald Trump is a dangerous man with the things that he has been saying.”

Trump’s obsessive need for loyalty—the result of a lifetime of insecurity and unethical/illegal business practices—are spreading through government institutions like the EPA and DOD the way a fungus spreads through a bag of apples on a warm day. The autocrat-in-chief is being, daily, imitated by his appointed minions, to the point that there are constant leaks about the “kiss-up-kick-down” psychopathological behavior of everybody from the White House doctor to Ryan Zinke and the flag he requires be raised over the roof of his building when he’s in his office.

In the process, the public good has been forgotten—or pushed aside as Trump and his fellow hogs monopolize the trough.

Another dimension of this is, while punishing your enemies, to support your friends. Trump and his administration have showered literally trillions of taxpayer dollars on their billionaire and corporate friends, from the GOP tax scam to their widespread destruction of protective regulations, to selling off public lands for pennies on the dollar.

Looting the public trust—and rewarding your friends with the money—was well documented by Fritz Thyssen’s chilling book I Paid Hitler. It’s a visible and important key to success for autocrats from Turkey to Russia to China. And Trump has brought it to the White House in a big way.

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Coalage3 38 weeks 5 days ago

I have read many comments, particuarly on the various versions of the Hartmann forums, about how progressives/democrats/liberals are the party of science. You know...the party of Neil Tyson and Bill Nye. We've all heard this many times...climate change is a fact because the science says so. Evolution is a fact because the science says so. You can't deny the science.

Then how come transgenders can deny science, and have progressives support them? How can the same people who scream about climate change deniers turn around and deny the science as to gender? There are only two genders. Science and mother nature figured that out already for us humans. If you have a penis, you are a male. If you don't then you're a female. Pretty simple and very effective for all of millenia.

So why do progessives hate science and mother nature?

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HotCoffee 38 weeks 5 days ago

Before you let the mob in heading north, pick a story...any story.

No wonder the dems were told not to talk about it anymore. Life where there is no law coming to join you in the USA. Who wants to take down the police & Ice ...the dems!

Coalage3 38 weeks 5 days ago

Rick Loll - you advocate for free food, housing, water, clothing, utilities, etc., and you call someone else a troll? There is no free stuff. Even Obama and the communists figured that out. Why can't you?

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"9 Ways Trump's Authoritarianism Taking Hold" by Thom Hartmann

9. Foster a Sense of Helplessness Among the Opposition.

Whether it’s done with selective and brutal enforcement of the law, subtly shutting down access to the media, or outright infiltration, destroying the opposition is a critical key to seizing and holding authoritarian power in any nation.

When I was a teenager, Richard Nixon was behind efforts to shut down the anti-war and Civil Rights movements. His attacks on Martin Luther King Jr. are well known, and I still clearly remember the guy who always showed up at Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) meetings yelling that it was time to “kill the pigs” and “burn down the ROTC building!” We later learned he was a police informant, although most of us suspected it at the time.

But the infiltration word of its effectiveness—along with the murder of JFK, MLK, RFK, and members of nonviolent dissident groups like the Panthers—did its dirty work.

Numerous people, at first enthused by the nonviolence and human rights advocated by Students for a Democratic Society and the ’60s Civil Rights movements, drifted away from political activism and, in the 1970s and ’80s, fell into sex, drugs, rock-and-roll, and religious cults. And, as Reaganomics began to strip the middle class of the economic independence they enjoyed pre-Reagan, people bonded more and more to the corporate world and left politics behind.

Today, with government agencies able to turn a cell phone into a remote spy device, even people planning simple protests (from the RNC in 2004 to inaugural protests in 2017) often find themselves in jail cells or court before they take any direct actions whatsoever. Trump’s regime ramped up the charges against the 2017 inaugural protesters to the point where hundreds were facing over a decade in federal prison, further terrorizing any potential future protesters.

Fear, and a sense of powerlessness or resignation, are two of an authoritarian regime’s most powerful weapons.

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"9 Ways Trump's Authoritarianism Taking Hold" by Thom Hartmann:

Defeating Neofascism, Neo-Authoritarianism, and Corporate/Billionaire Corruption

The good news is found in recent research on the ways that societies come back from, or restore democracy to, authoritarian and/or highly corrupt governments. While surprising, it’s not counterintuitive.

Maria J. Stephan, director of educational initiatives at the International Center on Nonviolent Conflict, and Erica Chenoweth, assistant professor of government at Wesleyan University and a postdoctoral fellow at Harvard University, published a mind-boggling paper almost a decade ago titled “Why Civil Resistance Works.”

In the first (!) comprehensive look in 200 years at how people take back their governments, they found that nonviolent resistance was nearly twice as successful (53 percent to 26 percent) as violent opposition at restoring democracy to, or exacting consequential political concessions from governments that had flipped authoritarian. (Chenoweth lays it out in a fascinating TEDx talk, as well.)

In just six years, for example, they showed non-violent-led civil reform movements having major successes around the world: “Serbia (2000), Madagascar (2002), Georgia (2003) and Ukraine (2004-05), Lebanon (2005), and Nepal (2006).”

Looking all the way back to 1900, they demonstrated that that two-to-one ratio of the success of nonviolent versus violent movements held.

Even revolutionary violence and terrorism as methods to produce political and social change (the methods we used to liberate the U.S. from Britain in 1776, and the Confederacy tried without success in 1861) are only effective 7 percent of the time, they found—a fraction of the 53 percent success rate demonstrated by historic nonviolent movements like those led by King and Gandhi.

Of course, these things can rub both ways. When our nation elected our first Black president, the Koch billionaire network and friends funded the Tea Party to "create a movement" out in the streets and in front of the cameras. That nonviolent movement, once activated, was sufficient to change control of an entire political party, the GOP.

Similarly, it seems that the progressive movement to return the Democratic Party to its FDR roots, which kicked off in a big way with the 2015 Bernie Sanders candidacy, has already succeeded in producing a deep and lasting refutation of the “Third Way” corporatist political alignments that had controlled the Democratic Party since 1992. The job isn't yet finished, but it’s moving at a lightning pace.

And, most encouraging, it was done without being funded and directed by a small group of cranky billionaires. It represents a true people’s movement, which means its power to produce deep and lasting change is massively greater than a few rich people buying politicians and owning media.

If Chenoweth and Stephan et al’s research is correct, this relatively small tail can wag the proverbial dog of national politics in hugely consequential ways.
At a time when several American billionaires are funding openly racist media vehicles and explicitly using them to foment white rage, resentment, and fear, this small cabal is moving the hate-based Right closer to widespread acceptance and political power.

Meanwhile, less-well-funded but equally passionate progressive movements are pushing hard for health care for all, free college education, and rights and decent pay for working people, all while respecting the entire range of minority rights.

Whoever wins the hearts of Americans and gets them into the streets first will transform America for generations, and if the turnouts for things like the Women’s March or kids walking out of school across the country protesting gun violence (versus the tiny white nationalist rallies that get so much coverage) are any indication, progressive America is winning.

But there’s still a long way to go: Tag, you’re it.

Coalage3 38 weeks 4 days ago

As to the mob caravan approaching from the south, the silence of the democrats is truly overwhelming and perplexing.

From never Trumper David Frum:

For Trump’s opponents, the caravan represents a trap. Has Trump’s radical nativism so counter-radicalized them that they have internalized the caravan message against any border enforcement at all? If yes, they will not help immigrants. They will only marginalize themselves—and American politics will follow the European path in which anti-immigration parties of the extreme right cannibalize the political center.

If liberals insist that only fascists will defend borders, then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals will not do. I’ve been pounding the drum for this warning since the European migration crisis accelerated in 2013. The warning holds as true as ever—and now it’s coming home.

From David Leonhart:

The smarter approach for Democrats would be a few simple statements of the obvious, meant to display both realism and decency, along the lines of: This is a country of laws. We are not going to admit thousands of undocumented immigrants traveling in a caravan. We do not have open borders. But we are and have always been a country of compassion as well, and we are working with Mexican authorities to protect the safety of these men, women and children.

The problem with ignoring the issue is that it plays into the Republicans’ midterm strategy. It makes Democrats sound squishy and insecure on immigration. It makes it sound as if Democrats aren’t really sure whether they believe that this country should have immigration laws.

From Rod Dreher:

Similarly, it took the Senate Democrats and their media allies savaging Brett Kavanaugh to wake up Republicans and independent conservatives to the reality that the Democratic Party is so sold out to identity politics that it would eagerly trash due process if the accused is a white male. The Republicans did not make the Democrats do that, any more than they’re making the Democrats whiff on the caravan. That’s who the Democrats are in 2018. They cannot or will not take a strong stand on what ought to be a fairly easy issue: that America has the right to control its borders.

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Dianereynolds 38 weeks 4 days ago

HotCoffee: The worlds air is again safe. My EZ Pour spouts came in today and life is good again. o funnels and no more gasoline spilled all over everything.

If you didn't catch the Trump rally in Houston last night I will post a link. The guy is a master ar ginning up a crowd. SNL should be so lucky to have a comedian as funny.

When you start hearing the leftie/socialist media start squawking about voter suppression and disenfranchisement they must know something they aren't telling the public. Sort of a pre-excuse for the "big blue wave" maybe not being so big or so blue.

I am almost starting to feel bad for the Democrat party as they have not had a good run over the last few election cycles. I think the radical progressive mobs have taken that party right down the toilet. AKA Harris, Waters, Booker, and that idiot senator from Hawaii. The Kavanaugh hearings did the democrat party no favors. Thank you Diane Feinstein. (notice how many of these fools live in CA?) Do you sane ones have no chance short of leaving the state?

Almost time for my favorite leftie, Chris tingle up my leg Matthews. I love watching that thin lipped angry man stammer.

Try to catch Tucker Carlson on FOX following the Matthew rant. He is a master at making democrats make fools of themselves.

See ya!

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Dianereynolds 38 weeks 4 days ago

Coalage3, I was thinking if the democrat party does not pull off major midterm election victories;

Will their be enough hate fomenting within their party to have their leaders organize a angry mob of malcontent leftie/socialists on a march southward through Mexico on their way to Venezuela?

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Dianereynolds 38 weeks 4 days ago

Hi HotCoffee,

Birds are fed, one large cup of coffee, and out for an hour walk in the woods. Yea, Ruger LCP II in my pocket in case of a stray coyote.

Another day brightener. Clinton and obama on immigration. In Clintons speech you could make a drinking game based on the number of times he uses the words "illegal alien".

Good day to you.

Coalage3 38 weeks 4 days ago

I believe it was Rush Limbaugh who proposed the following "solution" on illegals, DACA, etc.

Democrats want unlimited and illegal immigration because they think that it gives them more potential votes and voters. And, since they now have become the party of the 1% elite, it makes their elitist, facist leaders a lot of money. And no, I do not believe that either party wants illegal immigration based on humanitarian concerns. Republicans are against illegal immigration for the same reasons, primarily the voting thing.

So the solution is relatively easy. Go ahead and grant all the illegals in the country now amnesty status. Let them become citizens immediately with one big exception. They are not allowed to vote for 25 years in any election. Basically a generation. And if they are caught trying to vote, they are immediately deported with no questions asked. That is the price they pay for being here illegally. The borders must be secured and the citizenship process must be followed by any other non-citizens who wish to enter this country after the amnesty is granted. No open borders.

Problem solved...right?

Coalage3 38 weeks 4 days ago

It would/could work if the election officials wanted it to work.

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deepspace 38 weeks 4 days ago

Published on Monday, October 22, 2018 by Common Dreams.

Stop GOP Voter Suppression—Or Else!
Most American voters generally don’t like billionaires and corporations running politics, so the GOP is simply not letting them vote.

by Thom Hartmann:

The Republican Party is currently hoping to win nationwide using two simple elements: explicit and overt racism, and voter suppression.

No “ideas”; no pitch for tax cuts; no discussion of their “replacement” for the Affordable Care Act; no push for better schools, hospitals, airports, roads or bridges; no promise for more and better jobs—none of these staples of the 2016 presidential campaign can be found in pretty much any Republican advertising today.

Instead, the public Republican message is all about race or the subset of race, religion (“Muslim” stands in for “brown Arab” in GOP-speak) and “immigration” (aka brown people from south of our border). Republicans across the country are even recruiting white supremacist and neo-Nazi gangs to threaten or assault Democrats and their supporters, while Trump praises the criminal assault of reporters in the wake of Khashoggi’s murder.

Meanwhile, Republican secretaries of state across the nation are vigorously purging voters from the rolls (over 14 million, more than 10 percent of America’s active voters, in the past two years, according to investigative reporter Greg Palast).

Immediately after the five Republican appointees on the U.S. Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act in 2013, 14 GOP-controlled states moved, within a year (some within days), to restrict access to the vote, particularly for communities of color, students, and retired people.

In North Carolina, for example, 158 polling places were permanently closed in the 40 counties with the most African American voters just before the 2016 election, leading to a 16 percent decline in African American early voting in that state. An MIT study found that, nationwide, Hispanic voters wait 150 percent longer in line than white voters, and Black voters can expect to wait 200 percent longer in line to vote.

In Indiana, then-Governor Pence’s new rigorous voter ID law caused an 11.5 percent drop in African American voting. Students are suing for their right to vote, and retired people who no longer drive but care passionately about their Social Security and Medicare are being turned away at the polls by the tens of thousands.

How did it come to this?


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Dianereynolds 38 weeks 4 days ago

Coalage3, I disagree with the plan because once a door is opened it never closes and the 25 year voting thing will never work.

I would rather Trump immediately (today) call all of congress back to DC and get each and every one of them to commit to their position on what to do about allowing this mob and all future mobs of illegals into this country. The usual gaggle of angry democrat politicians have been hiding over this issue. Get them on public record and run all their responses on television over and over.

Besides it would make great campaign ads for both sides.

The voters can then decide.

Coalage3 38 weeks 4 days ago

Now we have reports flying around that "bombs" were discovered trying to be sent to Obama, the Clintons, Soros, Eric Holder, CNN, and probably others. I bet Maxine Waters is livid her name hasn't been mentioned. Anyway...I just wonder what left wing facist lunatic is responsible for this? Now I know what you are thinking. This has to be a right wing nut trying to take out the democratic big guns. Well it could be that. But considering that Trump has been beating the dems at their own game since his election has to be a shock to these fringe loony tunes leftists. The Russia collusion story has gone nowhere. The economy keeps rolling along. He has two SC confirmations, and the effort to get rid of Kavanaugh backfired spectacularly. I guess one could say it bombed.

Plus how come Bernie didn't get a bomb sent to him? Maybe another crazy Bernie supporter is trying to get back at the democratic establishment that basically stabbed Bernie in the back during the last election.

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Stop GOP Voter Suppression—Or Else!
Most American voters generally don’t like billionaires and corporations running politics, so the GOP is simply not letting them vote.

by Thom Hartmann:

The problem for the GOP has deep roots. In the 1870s, when the Party abandoned its Lincolnesque position in favor of granting full citizenship rights to freed slaves, it rapidly slid into the role of being the party of the barons of rail, oil, coal, steel, and construction.

The Democratic Party, meanwhile, largely threw its efforts—culminating in the New Deal in 1933 and the Great Society in 1967—in with working people, legislatively protecting unionization efforts, passing Social Security and Medicare, putting the minimum wage and unemployment insurance into law, and creating federal and state agencies to protect workers’ safety, children, and the environment.

This has led to a major problem for the GOP, since the very wealthy and CEOs only constitute a small part of the American voting public. In order to pass tax cuts and cut protective regulations for their rich owners, they needed political power, and—particularly since the disastrous “roaring 20s” leading straight to the Republican Great Depression (yes, they called it that until after WWII)—Republicans needed voters to put them into office.

And this was generally pretty tough for the GOP. In 1974, for example, the GOP only had outright control of seven states. The message of, “elect us and we’ll help the rich people out” just didn't generally resonate with American voters. It’s the reason why, outside of the fluke elections of 1946 and 1952, Democrats outright controlled the House of Representatives for three generations, from 1933 to 1996, and controlled the Senate for most of that time.

Desperate to win the presidency in 1968, Richard Nixon even went so far as to commit treason by torpedoing a peace deal that LBJ had worked out with the Vietnamese. According to the then-president of Iran, Reagan did the same thing by cutting a deal with Iran to hold the U.S. embassy hostages until after the election, destroying Jimmy Carter’s chances of re-election.

In 2000, though, the GOP changed tactics. After Reagan almost got busted for Iran/Contra (he testified that he “forgot” about details of the program over 80 times; he was saved by his growing Alzheimer’s from an indictment), they realized that getting busted for treason wasn't worth the risk. They needed a “Plan B.”


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Dianereynolds 38 weeks 4 days ago

Coalage3, the problem is, in order to enforce Limbaughs rule, some sort of photo ID would need be involved. Now ,if you can find any chickenshit democrat that would stand up for the logic of requiring a ID before one can vote, list them here and I will do everything I can to spread the word in their favor. Republicans have proposed free photo ID and a paper ballot backup and the leftie/socialists wince and run for the hills.

Which brings up the topic of becoming an election judge. A conservative friend took the course and asked questions he apparently shoulden't have regarding challenges. Needless to say he was not selected, but the good news, he called them all out for what they are.

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HotCoffee 38 weeks 4 days ago


My preference is paper ballots with reciept, and a photo ID. Especially after the Ca. DMV BS.

So just where did Maxine think her threats would take our country ??? Sad!

Did anyone ever get caught in those Texas pkgs. sent to random people, a while back?

Violence is so easy to start and so hard to stop.

It"s going to be a long 2 weeks.

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deepspace 38 weeks 4 days ago


Stop GOP Voter Suppression—Or Else!
Most American voters generally don’t like billionaires and corporations running politics, so the GOP is simply not letting them vote.

by Thom Hartmann:

And it was deliciously simple. If the majority of voters don’t like what you’re selling, then just don’t let them vote.

Paul Weyrich had promoted this idea back in 1980 when he was campaigning for Reagan (after co-founding the Heritage Foundation), and, indeed, many Republican luminaries (like William Rehnquist, who went from poll-intimidator in the 1960s to Chief Justice of the Supreme Court) rose up through the ranks by participating in Republican-run voter intimidation schemes.

But it became the foundational go-to tactic for the GOP in 2000.

While they used smear and innuendo to attack Al Gore (ridiculing him for helping write the legislation that created the modern internet, for example), the main thing that got George W. Bush into the White House was voter suppression crimes committed by his brother, then-Florida Governor Jeb Bush, and Bush’s Secretary of State, Katherine Harris. Throwing somewhere between 50,000 and 90,000 African American voters off the rolls, they were able to get the vote close enough that five Republican appointees to the Supreme Court functionally awarded Bush the presidency. (The BBC covered this in 2001 in two major investigative reports here and here that were literally seen all over the world except on any American media.)

By 2016, the Republican Party had fine-tuned their voter suppression and intimidation systems to the point that they ran in nearly 30 states like well-oiled machines. Between the 2012 and 2016 presidential elections, for example, Ohio had purged more than 2 million voters from its rolls, the vast majority (more than 2:1) in heavily African American and Hispanic counties. (And the Supreme Court ruled last year that they can keep it up; other states have since adopted their new tactic of caging voters.)

The New York Times noted that in Wisconsin, around 300,000 registered voters were turned away at the polls because they didn't have the particular types of ID necessitated by Scott Walker’s ALEC-recommended new voter ID law (in Texas, the Times reported, the number was 900,000).

It’s symbiotic: billionaires and corporations spend hundreds of millions to fund Republicans, who pass laws and tax breaks that give billions to the corporations and billionaires, who then recycle a fraction of that, mere millions, back to the legislators they own. To keep the cycle going, both must prevent people who object to this system from voting.

ALEC (the American Legislative Exchange Council), funded by the Koch network and other billionaires and big corporations, has been at the forefront of these efforts, with the majority of voter suppressive state laws passed having been introduced by ALEC-affiliated Republican legislators. ALEC itself facilitated the production of voter suppressive “model legislation.”


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HotCoffee 38 weeks 4 days ago


You can pretend if you want !

Do you have any solutions or just left wing false accusations?

Voter ID and suporting lawful entry into this country would solve much of this craziness.

Just saw Chris Cummo on CNN thanking God devices didn't explode...hmmm while you post articles against atheists in the foxhole...while the not very smart continue to incite?

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Dianereynolds 38 weeks 4 days ago

HotCoffee, Paper ballots and any sort of photo ID is the only way to keep track of who has and who has not yet voted. Easy solution that will never be adopted by anyone in the democrat party.

Don't waste your time with pony boy as he/she/alphabet is busy playing forum leapfrog in a attempt to seek much needed attention not given at home or on the job.

The whole "explosive device" thing smells to high heaven. Best left to the authorities who I am sure will quickly come up with a perpetrator. That result should be interesting to say the least.

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HotCoffee 38 weeks 4 days ago


I agree.

Breaking news Maxine all of a sudden condems violence.

She was warned this would get out of control and is partly responsible.

She ran her mouth after the Scalise shooting thinking nothing would come home to roost.

Rumors are patriots are heading to the border. So far just Rumors.

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