The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018

It seems it's all racism, all the time w/the GOP...Neo-Nazi robocall hits Iowa on Molly Tibbett’s murder: “KILL THEM ALL. ” Richard Wolff drops by about the National Debt. Is it a disaster or an OK thing? Also - Trump & The National Enquirer - Is the Economy Here To Serve Us Or Are We Here to Serve the economy? Has America Become a "Grifter" Country? Check out our short podcast today https://www.thomhartmann.com/hartmann-report-podcast

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OpEdNews, July 30, 2018

"Trump Is in Major Legal and Political Trouble — His Desperate Attempts to Escape Could Lead America to Catastrophe.
We should prepare for any drastic measures from war to martial law that Trump may undertake to escape his crises."

By Thom Hartmann:

Trump thrives on creating crises, and then "solving" the crisis he, himself created. He did it with DACA, with Obamacare, and with North Korea. It seems he's trying the same playbook with Iran and immigration/asylum.

But what if the crisis he creates in this case involved what looked like widespread violence?

The Constitution gives Congress (controlled by the GOP) the power to "suppress insurrections," while numerous laws including the Patriot Act and its successors give the president the power to declare various levels of emergency or even martial law. (It's been done before; Lincoln did it and even suspended habeas corpus, which was clearly unconstitutional.)

In 2004, the Congressional Research Service (a federal agency that researches legal questions for members of Congress) looked into whether a president could suspend elections in a time of crisis. They concluded: "While the Executive Branch does not currently have this power, it appears that Congress may be able to delegate this power to the Executive Branch by enacting a statute."

Is it inconceivable that our current Congress might do such a thing? Wouldn't it depend on how many people were in the streets protesting (after the election it was a million-plus) and how many right-wing open-carry armed thugs show up?

If Heather Heyer was only the first anti-Trump protester murdered by white supremacists, and dozens or hundreds more were to fall to the guns or bombs of Trump's Very Fine People, Congress may well consider it a state of emergency.

This was, after all, the exact scenario that Timothy McVeigh thought he would bring about. Following the Turner Diaries script, known to every white supremacist, McVeigh believed that President Bill Clinton would react to the Oklahoma City bombing with widespread gun control, which would cause all the good well-armed white people to start a killing frenzy against people of color and bring about the Aryan forces' "triumph."

And McVeigh's thinking on the subject is widely shared in the hard-right-wing underground today.

We Americans tend to think of ourselves as totally unique, but numerous democratic republics have gone down this or similar roads in past generations. As Trump biographer Tony Schwartz noted, "Just look at any country that has been taken over by the military. He'd say there is a threat to the republic and the military needs to crack down and he would start with curfews, and the stop and frisk of anyone who is not white, male and rich."

But what about the power of the Article III courts to restrain Trump, you might ask?

So far, with his Muslim ban and his brutal confinement of refugee children, Trump has gone along with the courts. But consider his presidential hero, Andrew Jackson, the man whose picture Trump hung by his desk in the Oval Office.

Not just the lower courts, but the Supreme Court itself told Jackson that he couldn't do things -- twice -- and both times he simply defied them. One was ending the second National Bank, and the other was the genocidal Trail of Tears.

John Marshall was Chief Justice of the Supreme Court at the time. President Jackson simply ignored the earlier SCOTUS ruling in the constitutionality of the bank (McCulloch v Maryland), and ignored legislation supporting the Court and the bank that passed through both the House and the Senate.

Ignoring the law and legal precedent, Jackson proceeded to shut the bank down, an action that, in part (along with paying off the national debt), produced the deepest and longest depression in the history of the United States.

And when Marshall ordered him not to forcibly relocate the Cherokee Indians from Georgia to Oklahoma (indirectly; the case had to do with a Vermont man held in Georgia who was going to be relocated along with the Cherokee), Jackson was said to have bragged to his friends, "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"

So, what if Trump were to simply follow the example of his hero, Jackson?

https://www.opednews.com/articles/2/Trump-Is-in-Major-Legal-an-by-Thom-Hartmann-America-Freedom-To-Fascism_Iran_Korea_Military-180730-178.html

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OpEdNews, July 30, 2018

"Trump Is in Major Legal and Political Trouble — His Desperate Attempts to Escape Could Lead America to Catastrophe.
We should prepare for any drastic measures from war to martial law that Trump may undertake to escape his crises."

By Thom Hartmann:

If Mueller used federal courts to indict Trump and his merry band, and Trump directed the police agencies of the U.S. to ignore the order (as Jackson directed the U.S. Army to ignore the Supreme Court and relocate the Cherokee, and they complied), then Mueller may find that he has precisely as much power over Trump and his family and friends as Chief Justice John Marshall had over Andrew Jackson.

This wouldn't just provoke a constitutional crisis; it's the very definition of one.

As Alexander Hamilton noted in #78 of the Federalist Papers, "The judiciary... has no influence over either the sword [President] or the purse [Congress]; no direction either of the strength or of the wealth of the society; and can take no active resolution whatever. It may truly be said to have neither FORCE nor WILL, but merely judgment; and must ultimately depend upon the aid of the executive arm even for the efficacy of its judgments." (Capitals Hamilton's.)

But Trump doesn't need a fight with Mueller in the courts to provoke a crisis: war works just as well.

FDR declared martial law in Hawaii (which wasn't even a state then) after Pearl Harbor, and [then-General] Andrew Jackson declared martial law in New Orleans during the War of 1812. (There's that name again...)

Provoking Iran or North Korea into a limited war may give Trump all the power he needs.

And, as George W. Bush noted to his biographer Mickey Herskowitz in 1999, war gives a president political capital. Bush even thought he'd get enough political capital from invading Iraq (this was before he was elected, keep in mind) that he could use it to privatize Social Security.

"One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief," Herskowitz told reporter Russ Baker that Bush told him.

"My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it," Bush said, adding, "If I have a chance to invade... if I had that much capital, I'm not going to waste it. I'm going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I'm going to have a successful presidency."

(Much like Schwartz writing Trump's autobiography, Herskowitz wrote the first draft of George W. Bush's autobiography A Charge to Keep. We should attend to the warnings of presidential biographers.)

Privatizing Social Security was very, very important to George W. Bush (maybe as important as staying out of jail is to Trump). Bush ran an unsuccessful campaign for the House of Representatives in 1978 in Texas on that singular platform.

And, after winning reelection and being sworn back into office in 2005, Bush began a campaign, traveling all across the country, trying to convince people privatization was a good idea.

As the San Francisco Chronicle's Washington Bureau Chief Marc Sandalow wrote the day after Bush won reelection, "President Bush proclaimed his election as evidence that Americans embrace his plans to reform Social Security... Bush staked his claim to a broad mandate and announced his top priorities at a post-election news conference, saying his 3.5 million vote victory had won him political capital that he would spend enacting his conservative agenda."

"I earned capital in this campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it," Bush told reporters. "It is my style."

The more Bush traveled pitching the idea, though, the more people hated it. He ultimately gave it up, as Brookings reported.

But if Bush was willing to start a war with Iraq to get himself reelected and privatize Social Security, imagine how much more motivated Trump may be to start a war -- with anybody, anywhere -- if he saw his financial empire slipping away, his presidency imperiled, and his children facing jail time.

https://www.opednews.com/articles/2/Trump-Is-in-Major-Legal-an-by-Thom-Hartmann-America-Freedom-To-Fascism_Iran_Korea_Military-180730-178.html

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OpEdNews, July 30, 2018

"Trump Is in Major Legal and Political Trouble — His Desperate Attempts to Escape Could Lead America to Catastrophe.
We should prepare for any drastic measures from war to martial law that Trump may undertake to escape his crises."

By Thom Hartmann:

The Australian Broadcasting Corporation (that country's version of NPR/PBS) is reporting right now that Donald Trump is studying plans to bomb Iran as soon as a month from now. To quote the article that is rocking Australia right now: "Senior figures in the Turnbull Government have told the ABC they believe the United States is prepared to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities, perhaps as early as next month, and that Australia is poised to help identify possible targets."

If Trump believes that Bush was right that war is good for politics and lifts war-making presidents and parties, perhaps this is his midterm strategy in the face of terrible poll numbers. Tragically, such a bombing could well bring Iran's allies, including Russia and China, into a larger war, triggering World War III in a manner similar to how World War I spiraled out of control.

Late in the 2016 presidential campaign, and early in the Trump presidency, it was nearly impossible to imagine the things that he would later do and get away with.

That failure of imagination has cost us dearly.

While the time for freak-out is hopefully far in the future, imagining and gaming out our response to some of the worst-case and most extreme possibilities is not at all a hysterical reaction. If anything, it's the essence of prudence.

What do you think he could do? And how should we best react?

An entire generation of Germans, Italians, and Spaniards are aging into their twilight years right now wishing they'd had such imagination in the early 1930s.

It's time for a conversation.

https://www.opednews.com/articles/2/Trump-Is-in-Major-Legal-an-by-Thom-Hartmann-America-Freedom-To-Fascism_Iran_Korea_Military-180730-178.html

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deepspace 6 weeks 3 days ago
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The Thom Hartmann Program 10/25/2018 1 hour edition

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Dianereynolds 6 weeks 3 days ago
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HotCoffee, I would think the mountain lions would love to have pigs for dinner. I wonder how many a lion would take in a week. I have heard there are thoughts of testing lions for "hog control" in some controled situations. In most states there is no season on wild pigs and landowners appreciate any hunters that ask for permission to remove as many as they wish as these varmints can tear up a couple of acres of land per night. Lots of thermal imaging rifle scopes sold. AR10's are very effective at diminishing the population.

More information on the bomber is coming out but the first thing I noticed, this nutjob listed himself as Native American. Possibly channeling Elizabeth Warren? Thank god he is caught. Now hack to the horde of immigrants.

See ya!

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deepspace 6 weeks 3 days ago
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OpEdNews, July 25, 2018 -- from the Independent Media Institute

"Trump Doesn't Have the Skill to Pull Off His Most Nefarious Plots"

By Thom Hartmann:

Trump just can't get things done, and we need to stop having conversations predicated on the assumption that maybe he can. His dangerous incompetence is currently risking war in the Middle East and Asia, while pitting American against American in ways we haven't seen in this country since the days of George Wallace.

For example, while citizens and leaders of the western world try to figure out what happened in Helsinki, Trump supporters are in plaintive wail mode: "He just wants better relations with Russia," they say. "What's wrong with that?"

In a previous op-ed, I posited three possible reasons for Donald Trump's behavior relative to Russia: that he's a witting or unwitting stooge, a wannabe dictator, or desperately broke. Several people noted, in comments to the article, that I'd missed a fourth option: "He's trying for world peace. Wouldn't better U.S./Russia relations be a good thing for the U.S. and world peace?"

Of course, it would be a good thing if the U.S. and Russia could get along better. It would be a very good thing.

Relations have been badly strained with Russia ever since we first started pushing NATO onto her borders (in ways that Reagan/Bush had promised Gorbachevwould never happen if he'd let the USSR dissolve), and Russia (in part, citing those broken promises) intervened in Georgia, Crimea, and Ukraine.

But Donald Trump is never going to untangle that mess: He simply lacks the skills, and isn't willing to turn details over to underlings who are competent. Instead, in Bolton and Pompeo, he has selected "hawks" historically hostile to Russia, which may be why he went out of his way to exclude them from his talks in Helsinki. It says a lot when a president is so incompetent he can't even appoint advisers who agree with his worldview.

He just can't do things competently.

This pattern has repeated almost daily since the election: consider how his other promises and actions reveal his distressing lack of competence and his failure to understand even the most basic elements of statesmanship and governance.

Donald Trump was elected on an "outsider" platform that, in significant ways, mirrored that of Bernie Sanders and progressive Democrats, earning him large swaths of former Obama voters. But his incompetence has betrayed them, and every world leader, looking on, now knows exactly what they're dealing with and won't be suckered the way working-class Americans were in November of 2016.

On entitlements, for example, Trump famously stood on the stage on April 18, 2015 (and multiple other occasions), and said, "Every Republican wants to do a big number on Social Security, they want to do it on Medicare, they want to do it on Medicaid, and we can't do that and it's not fair to the people that have been paying in for years and now, all of a sudden, they wanna be cutting it." (Bernie, of course, didn't believe him for a second and called him out.)

He can't do it on entitlements.

On trade, Trump took the position of the Congressional Progressive Caucus -- and every U.S. administration from George Washington to Jimmy Carter -- when he said he would protect U.S. jobs (and bring home manufacturing jobs) with the use of targeted tariffs. The last time we had a substantive national discussion of the issue was when Ross Perot challenged Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush for the presidency in 1992, and won over 20 percent of the national vote (correctly) warning of that "giant sucking sound from the south" that would happen if the U.S. signed NAFTA and joined the GATT/WTO.

Most Americans then, and most now, supported targeted tariffs. But Trump's all over the map, doling out exceptions to tariffs and trade rules when it suits his business interests or when he gets hassled by his wealthy Republican constituency.

Even worse, companies must operate over decades-long periods when planning to invest millions or billions into new manufacturing facilities -- but because Trump is doing what he is by executive actions (with a "national security" excuse that will probably be struck down in the courts) instead of moving comprehensive trade legislation through Congress, no company has the assurance that his protective tariffs won't simply evaporate the day he leaves office.

https://www.opednews.com/articles/Trump-Doesn-t-Have-the-Ski-by-Thom-Hartmann-Incompetence_Trump-And-Putin_Trump-Broken-Promises_Trump-Ego-180725-323.html

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OpEdNews, July 25, 2018

"Trump Doesn't Have the Skill to Pull Off His Most Nefarious Plots"

By Thom Hartmann:

While tariffs should lead to increases in domestic manufacturing and, thus, more jobs, they aren't in this case because no company can take that large a risk on such an unstable president with an eccentric policy that has no laws behind it.

He just can't do it on trade.

On international relations, Trump repeatedly called for better relations withother nations, a goal that (outside of a few hardliners) is widely embraced, at least in the abstract, by both parties and the people of the world (particularly in Europe). Sadly, he's managed to damage or destroy our relations with all but a handful of autocratic nations, disrespecting and angering American allies who've been with us for centuries.

He can't do it on international relations.

On infrastructure, Trump parroted Bernie in calling for a $1.5 trillion national investment in America's crumbling infrastructure, repeatedly pointing out that since U.S. infrastructure investments collapsed following Reagan's huge tax cuts in the 1980s, we've let our roads, rails, and airports deteriorate to Third World status. But action since the election? He seems to have forgotten.

He can't do it on infrastructure.

On issues affecting women and children, Trump called for increased federal spending for child care, child tax credits, and paid maternity leave. The GOP in Congress and the billionaires who fund their campaigns and their voter suppression efforts simply laughed at him.

He can't do it on family issues.

On health care, Trump continued to insist, even after he was elected, that he would follow the Democrats' plan to change the law so that Medicare could directly negotiate prescription drug prices (ending a $600 billion windfall for the drug companies inserted by the GOP in 2005), and would provide "insurance for everybody" that was "much less expensive and much better than" Obamacare. Instead, he's changing the law so your insurance company can once again refuse to pay your bills if they can dig into your records and find any remote evidence of a pre-existing condition. Or simply dump you when you get sick.

He can't do it on health care.

On taxes, while President Obama signed into law the largest middle-class tax cut in the history of the nation, Trump promised an even bigger tax cut for working people. Instead, he and the GOP handed over $5 trillion in U.S. tax dollars to the billionaire and corporate class, while further depressing wages on working people.

He can't do it on taxes.

He promised to help out low-income blacks, saying, "What have you got to lose?" Turns out that, along with other low-income minorities and low-income whites, they're losing a lot, from the right to vote, to essential government help with housing, food, and health care. His white supremacist base seems happy with his "rapist"/"shithole" rhetoric, but they're being screwed economically by his policies, too.

He can't do it for low-income folks, people of color, or even the racists among his base.

Trump is breathtakingly incompetent. His businesses have failed repeatedly, foreign oligarchs are bailing him out, and he and Michael Cohen apparently broke numerous U.S. election laws just getting him elected. He couldn't even run a competent campaign for president, and without "a little (illegal) help from his friends" he wouldn't be in the White House.

https://www.opednews.com/articles/Trump-Doesn-t-Have-the-Ski-by-Thom-Hartmann-Incompetence_Trump-And-Putin_Trump-Broken-Promises_Trump-Ego-180725-323.html

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HotCoffee 6 weeks 3 days ago
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DianeR,

You might like this site...menu is at top left hand corner ...the three lines.

https://howmuch.net/

Cheers!

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deepspace 6 weeks 3 days ago
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The Thom Hartmann Program - 10/25/2018 -1 hour edition

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OpEdNews, July 25, 2018

"Trump Doesn't Have the Skill to Pull Off His Most Nefarious Plots"

By Thom Hartmann:

He can't do it through politics.

Trump can't get his pitiful wall out of his own Republican-controlled Congress, and his brutal child-separation/detention-camp policies have horrified Americans across the political spectrum.

He can't do it on immigration.

He has utterly failed at health care, to the point that massive increases in insurance prices (and declines in the quality of coverage) are predicted for this winter when rates are reset, further hammering working families who are seeing their wages drop as the natural result of the ongoing Republican War on Unions.

Meanwhile, working-class Americans are further getting hammered with rising gasoline prices as Trump's newfound Saudi "friends" are laughing all the way to the bank.

He can't do anything successful for working-class people.

His tax-cut scam will, in the first weeks of October, collide with the Fed's program of unwinding quantitative easing (QE). The Fed will be looking for purchasers of $800 billion or so of Treasurys on their balance sheet, while the Treasury Department must find buyers for around $1.2 trillion in new debt to continue handing U.S. tax dollars to multinational corporations and billionaires. This, David Stockman told me, will probably push us into the next great depression.

He can't do it for the economy.

The drug companies are laughing at him (and pretending to go along by holding prices down" for a few months), his infrastructure investment ideas have been killed by McConnell and Ryan, and the GOP won't even discuss his (Ivanka's) campaign promises of more governmental help for low-income women and children.

He can't do it to keep us well.

Which brings us back to why I didn't include "Trump wanting better U.S. relations with Russia" in my list of reasons he's so utterly obsequious when it comes to President Putin and Russian oligarchs.

We all would like a win-win of good relations with the world's second largest nuclear power, but is Donald Trump moving us in that direction? The evidence shouts, "No, he can't do it." He's simply too incompetent.

If Donald Trump -- or any president, for that matter -- wanted to accomplish a rapprochement with Russia (or any other nation), it must be done systemically.

From the State Department to Congress to our military/intelligence agencies, a president committed to working things out with Russia would be realigning the levers of American power to consistently offer both carrots and sticks, holding a clear-eyed vision of the goals and needs of both nations.

He'd be working with NATO to resolve issues that are troubling to the Russians while, at the same time, informing the American people about the history of this relationship and how it got to this point. (Ironically, that last would give him something to bash Bill Clinton with, as it was on his watch that America broke Bush's promise to Gorbachev. Trump apparently can't even competently abuse a political foe.)

Trump grew up in his daddy's business, which he eventually inherited. As a CEO, he was an absolute autocrat, and never seems to have mastered the necessary arts of compromise and cooperation. His legendary business failures, frauds (yes, with convictions), and bankruptcies attest to his inability to accomplish things -- and also to his childlike belief that the way to "get things done" is simply by ordering it so.

That's not even how competently run companies work, much less entire nations. He's just a third-level grifter, and just can't do it.

https://www.opednews.com/articles/Trump-Doesn-t-Have-the-Ski-by-Thom-Hartmann-Incompetence_Trump-And-Putin_Trump-Broken-Promises_Trump-Ego-180725-323.html

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deepspace 6 weeks 3 days ago
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OpEdNews, July 25, 2018

"Trump Doesn't Have the Skill to Pull Off His Most Nefarious Plots"

By Thom Hartmann:

Trump believes that if the "leaders" of a nation can get along, everything will work out. While there's actually a long history of personal chemistry between leaders leading to good results, dating back to the first years of our Republic and Jefferson's relationship with Lafayette, this all has to happen within a much larger and more institutional framework, and Trump can't do that.

Instead, Trump is handling U.S./Russian relations the way a small-time (non-public company, like Trump's) CEO would negotiate a deal between their companies. Except that a competent CEO would have had his underlings work out most of the details before the first meeting took place -- or at least immediately thereafter.

As if to flaunt his incompetence, Trump hasn't even yet told his national security team what he agreed to in his private meeting with Putin.

It's becoming pretty clear that he can't work out a deal with Russia, and meanwhile North Korea is openly flaunting their defiance of him (despite the superficial changes that have recently occurred). Even Trump's right-wing allies around the world are laughing at him: Bibi considers him a useful idiot, and the Saudis walked all over him (leading to millions of refugees in Yemen). Erdoğan is ignoring Trump's pleas to release an imprisoned American pastor, and Xi, other than swapping financing for the Indonesian Trump property for ZTE's future, is mostly ignoring him.

A few conservatives have tried to spin Trump's blundering in North Korea and Russia as being on the level of Reagan first "going off script" with Gorbachev, something that did actually happen and eventually turned out well (at least until Milton Friedman's libertarian "Chicago School boys" began advising the privatization of the former USSR's assets, but that's another article).

But the simple reality is that Reagan knew that government doesn't work like a corporation (unless it's an autocratic government), and therefore he let competent statesmen and stateswomen around him work out the thousands of small but critical details. Reagan at least had the experience of running California, with the world's sixth largest economy and layer upon layer of fractious politics; his policies were terrible, but he knew how to get things done. Trump doesn't.

Trump, in apparent thrall to the idea that he's America's "CEO President" or, worse, our soon-to-be Erdoğan or Mussolini, thinks he can have a "secret" conversation with Putin and he'll just magically charm Russia's far-more-sophisticated president into supine compliance with U.S. concerns.

Predictably, it doesn't seem to be working out. He just can't do it.

Trump should have learned from President Obama's successful negotiations, leading to world-turning agreements with Iran and Cuba, that there is a way to work things out with former adversaries. Step one, in fact, is to bring in all concerned parties, as Obama did when he successfully worked out the Iran deal with Russia, China, the UK, France, Germany and the UN.

But Trump just can't learn, and instead, like a spoiled child, he's now trying to destroy two of the most important bipartisan and multilateral accomplishments of his own country's early 21st century.

So, yes, we should all hope for better relations between the world's two great nuclear powers. And if Donald Trump had shown any competence at anything other than demagoguery and race-baiting, it should be included on a list of reasons why he's working so hard at his relationship with President Putin.

But the last two years tell us that Trump's Russia outreach is almost certainly more about the money he owes Russian oligarchs than any desire for our two nations to "get along."

It's a good thing for world peace and stability to have an American president competent in international relations (and domestic governance, for that matter), and it would be a good thing for the U.S. and the Russian Federation to have a good -- or even a great -- relationship; most Americans would be grateful and supportive of such a president's best efforts.

Proof of that is found in the early outreach to Trump from a number of Democrats, from Bernie to Chuck Schumer to Nancy Pelosi, right after the election. They each said, in various ways, "Where he's wrong, we'll fight him -- but when he's right, like on trade, infrastructure, or strengthening Social Security, we're prepared to work with him." I even said similar things on my radio/TV program, and meant them.

Unfortunately, Donald Trump turned out to be so incompetent that he couldn't even turn Democrats' "yes" into anything real, and his promises to do things for average working Americans -- or for world peace -- were simply lies.

He just can't do it.

Trump will go down as the most dangerously corrupt and tragically incompetent president in America's history, and the most it seems we can hope for is that he won't start World War III or flip America into fascism with his next tweet.

Those are the things, history tells us, an incompetent leader actually can do.

https://www.opednews.com/articles/Trump-Doesn-t-Have-the-Ski-by-Thom-Hartmann-Incompetence_Trump-And-Putin_Trump-Broken-Promises_Trump-Ego-180725-323.html

-- from the Independent Media Institute

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Dianereynolds 6 weeks 3 days ago
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HotCoffee, Interesting website. I will play with it a bit later. It will be interesting come 2018 income tax time. The high tax states that received a gift from the feds by allowing those taxpayers to deduct their State taxes from their Federal taxes is now gone, so the free ride for high tax states is over. I predice lots of sticker shock for many in high tax states come mid April.

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HotCoffee 6 weeks 3 days ago
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DianeR

Just nice to have on hand....I'm off to make chili dogs for the Warrior game. Love their great teamwork. And not to much politics.

back later!

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deepspace 6 weeks 3 days ago
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The Thom Hartmann Program - 1 hour edition - 10/26/2018

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deepspace 6 weeks 3 days ago
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From the podium of pontification on high, the demagogue of nonstop campaign rhetoric inspires his fever-eyed fans ("...very fine people on both sides...") to put aside differences (riiight) and come together as one nation under, goddammit, his Highness...

...that is, after blowing up, killing , and maiming innocent people simply because they work in the media or call themselves Democrats or are undocumented or have brown skin or are Muslim ...or, or, or...

And from whom, do you suppose, did this latest Trump-winger -- a registered Republican whackjob -- get his hateful, angry, violent politics?

Gee, could it possibly be from the fake president, perhaps -- this sad, past-his-prime, fake playboy (sexual predator), who arrogantly tilts his haughty head back in a ridiculous Mussolini-esque frown, his cartoonish vision of the respectable pose a strong leader should strike (which, for vanity's sake, also has the added benefit of stretching out those saggy jowls and neck waddle for the cameras)?

This twittering twit is an efing joke, the butt of the whole world! As are the fools who follow Dear Leader like little lost puppies, who evidently like their crotches grabbed by dirty old men ...politically speaking.

Vote the bums out!

And have fun doin' it!

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deepspace 6 weeks 3 days ago
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Today in the first hour of Thom's program, he discusses serious and widespread efforts for many years by Republican Secretaries of State throughout the country, especially in swing states, to disenfranchise as many potential Democratic voters as possible, primarily by purging them from voting rolls without good cause -- over 14 million just this year! And Democrats in general, who fit certain profiles, have been finding it increasingly more difficult to vote. This is by design, of course.

Thom's guest is Greg Palast.

Since voter suppression -- striking at the very "beating heart of democracy" -- is such a critical topic right now before these extremely important midterms, Thom's timely and poignant article, "Stop GOP Voter Suppression -- Or Else!," should be revisited.

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OpEdNews Op Eds -- 10/22/2018 -- From Common Dreams

"Stop GOP Voter Suppression -- Or Else!

Most American voters generally don't like billionaires and corporations running politics, so the GOP is simply not letting them vote."

By Thom Hartmann:

The Republican Party is currently hoping to win nationwide using two simple elements: explicit and overt racism, and voter suppression.

No "ideas"; no pitch for tax cuts; no discussion of their "replacement" for the Affordable Care Act; no push for better schools, hospitals, airports, roads or bridges; no promise for more and better jobs -- none of these staples of the 2016 presidential campaign can be found in pretty much any Republican advertising today.

Instead, the public Republican message is all about race or the subset of race, religion ("Muslim" stands in for "brown Arab" in GOP-speak) and "immigration" (aka brown people from south of our border). Republicans across the country are even recruiting white supremacist and neo-Nazi gangs to threaten or assault Democrats and their supporters, while Trump praises the criminal assault of reporters in the wake of Khashoggi's murder.

Meanwhile, Republican secretaries of state across the nation are vigorously purging voters from the rolls (over 14 million, more than 10 percent of America's active voters, in the past two years, according to investigative reporter Greg Palast).

Immediately after the five Republican appointees on the U.S. Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act in 2013, 14 GOP-controlled states moved, within a year (some within days), to restrict access to the vote, particularly for communities of color, students, and retired people.

In North Carolina, for example, 158 polling places were permanently closedin the 40 counties with the most African American voters just before the 2016 election, leading to a 16 percent decline in African American early voting in that state. An MIT study found that, nationwide, Hispanic voters wait 150 percent longer in line than white voters, and Black voters can expect to wait 200 percent longer in line to vote.

In Indiana, then-Governor Pence's new rigorous voter ID law caused an 11.5 percent drop in African American voting. Students are suing for their right to vote, and retired people who no longer drive but care passionately about their Social Security and Medicare are being turned away at the polls by the tens of thousands.

How did it come to this?

The problem for the GOP has deep roots. In the 1870s, when the Party abandoned its Lincolnesque position in favor of granting full citizenship rights to freed slaves, it rapidly slid into the role of being the party of the barons of rail, oil, coal, steel, and construction.

The Democratic Party, meanwhile, largely threw its efforts -- culminating in the New Deal in 1933 and the Great Society in 1967 -- in with working people, legislatively protecting unionization efforts, passing Social Security and Medicare, putting the minimum wage and unemployment insurance into law, and creating federal and state agencies to protect workers' safety, children, and the environment.

This has led to a major problem for the GOP, since the very wealthy and CEOs only constitute a small part of the American voting public. In order to pass tax cuts and cut protective regulations for their rich owners, they needed political power, and -- particularly since the disastrous "roaring 20s" leading straight to the Republican Great Depression (yes, they called it that until after WWII) -- Republicans needed voters to put them into office.

And this was generally pretty tough for the GOP. In 1974, for example, the GOP only had outright control of seven states. The message of, "elect us and we'll help the rich people out" just didn't generally resonate with American voters. It's the reason why, outside of the fluke elections of 1946 and 1952, Democrats outright controlled the House of Representatives for three generations, from 1933 to 1996, and controlled the Senate for most of that time.

Desperate to win the presidency in 1968, Richard Nixon even went so far as to commit treason by torpedoing a peace deal that LBJ had worked out with the Vietnamese. According to the then-president of Iran, Reagan did the same thing by cutting a deal with Iran to hold the U.S. embassy hostages until after the election, destroying Jimmy Carter's chances of re-election.

https://www.opednews.com/articles/Stop-GOP-Voter-Suppression-by-Thom-Hartmann-Billionaires_Election_Politics_Voter-Fraud-181022-905.html

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deepspace 6 weeks 3 days ago
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OpEdNews Op Eds -- 10/22/2018 -- From Common Dreams

"Stop GOP Voter Suppression -- Or Else!

Most American voters generally don't like billionaires and corporations running politics, so the GOP is simply not letting them vote."

By Thom Hartmann:

In 2000, though, the GOP changed tactics. After Reagan almost got busted for Iran/Contra (he testified that he "forgot" about details of the program over 80 times; he was saved by his growing Alzheimer's from an indictment), they realized that getting busted for treason wasn't worth the risk.) They needed a "Plan B."

And it was deliciously simple. If the majority of voters don't like what you're selling, then just don't let them vote.

Paul Weyrich had promoted this idea back in 1980 when he was campaigning for Reagan (after co-founding the Heritage Foundation), and, indeed, many Republican luminaries (like William Rehnquist, who went from poll-intimidator in the 1960s to Chief Justice of the Supreme Court) rose up through the ranks by participating in Republican-run voter intimidation schemes.

While they used smear and innuendo to attack Al Gore (ridiculing him for helping write the legislation that created the modern internet, for example), the main thing that got George W. Bush into the White House was voter suppression crimes committed by his brother, then-Florida Governor Jeb Bush, and Bush's Secretary of State, Katherine Harris. Throwing somewhere between 50,000 and 90,000 African American voters off the rolls, they were able to get the vote close enough that five Republican appointees to the Supreme Court functionally awarded Bush the presidency. (The BBC covered this in 2001 in two major investigative reports here and here that were literally seen all over the world except on any American media.)But it became the foundational go-to tactic for the GOP in 2000.

By 2016, the Republican Party had fine-tuned their voter suppression and intimidation systems to the point that they ran in nearly 30 states like well-oiled machines. Between the 2012 and 2016 presidential elections, for example, Ohio had purged more than 2 million voters from its rolls, the vast majority (more than 2:1) in heavily African American and Hispanic counties. (And the Supreme Court ruled last year that they can keep it up; other states have since adopted their new tactic of caging voters.)

The New York Times noted that in Wisconsin, around 300,000 registered voters were turned away at the polls because they didn't have the particular types of ID necessitated by Scott Walker's ALEC-recommended new voter ID law (in Texas, the Times reported, the number was 900,000).

It's symbiotic: billionaires and corporations spend hundreds of millions to fund Republicans, who pass laws and tax breaks that give billions to the corporations and billionaires, who then recycle a fraction of that, mere millions, back to the legislators they own. To keep the cycle going, both must prevent people who object to this system from voting.

ALEC (the American Legislative Exchange Council), funded by the Koch network and other billionaires and big corporations, has been at the forefront of these efforts, with the majority of voter suppressive state laws passed having been introduced by ALEC-affiliated Republican legislators. ALEC itself facilitated the production of voter suppressive "model legislation."

Average American voters generally don't like billionaires and corporations running politics, so the billionaires and their corporations have organized major efforts to keep those people from voting. Numbers are sketchy, because Republican Secretaries of State are unwilling to release purge numbers and details without being sued to do so.

Fortunately for America, investigative reporter Greg Palast is executing such lawsuits right now, and the purge lists he's acquired in the past two weeks include over 90,000 people in largely Democratic parts of Nevada, 769,436 voters purged in Colorado, 340,134 in Georgia, 550,000 in Illinois, a large but as-yet-uncounted list from Nebraska, and 469,000 just purged in Indiana. More are coming in virtually daily, as Palast continues his lawsuits, along with the NAACP and Rainbow Push.

True the Vote, the latest Astroturf group pushing for voter purges, is partly funded by the Judicial Crisis Network (JCN), the group that spent millions to run nationwide TV ads for Judge Brett Kavanaugh disparaging Dr. Christine Blasey Ford's testimony as a "sham."

JCN, in turn, is funded by the Wellspring Committee that, according to investigative reporter Ken Vogel, was started by billionaires Charles and David Koch. (Their father, Fred Koch, was a founder and major funder of the John Birch Society, which ran "Impeach [Supreme Court Chief Justice] Earl Warren" billboards and ads across America in the 1950s and 1960s decrying the Supreme Court's 1954 desegregation order in Brown v. Board, and funded publications and efforts characterizing the voter drives of Martin Luther King Jr. as a communist plot.)

Republicans, instead of helping working people, love to lecture Americans that only their elected officials and Federal and Supreme Court justices are actually channeling the "original intent" of the founders and framers of the Constitution. ("Originalism" is a scam run uniquely by Republican justices, for example.)

Like their rigged elections and their ads saying that they want to defend Social Security and protect us against insurance companies viz preexisting conditions, it's a lie.

Although about half of the founders were slaveholders, practicing their own form of voter suppression, they nonetheless held egalitarian values for the future of this country and worried obsessively about a takeover by the very rich. It's hard to imagine that they'd ever sanction interpreting the First Amendment as a license for billionaires and corporations to buy our political system (as the Supreme Court first did in 1976 in the Buckley case, and then supercharged in 2010 with Citizens United).

In the summer of 1785, James Madison was essentially running the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, and he gave a speech (you can read in his Notes on the Convention) about the importance of not allowing the new country they were forming to become an oligarchy, run of, by, and for the rich. He noted that there are "two cardinal objects of government, the rights of persons and the rights of property."

https://www.opednews.com/articles/2/Stop-GOP-Voter-Suppression-by-Thom-Hartmann-Billionaires_Election_Politics_Voter-Fraud-181022-905.html

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deepspace 6 weeks 3 days ago
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OpEdNews Op Eds -- 10/22/2018 -- From Common Dreams

"Stop GOP Voter Suppression -- Or Else!

Most American voters generally don't like billionaires and corporations running politics, so the GOP is simply not letting them vote."

By Thom Hartmann:

He added that if only the rights of property were written into the Constitution, the rich would ravage the few assets of the poor. "Give all power to property," he said, "and the indigent will be oppressed."

In fact, Madison noted, all the former republics that they had studied in his five years of preparation for writing our Constitution had ended up corrupted by exactly that: the political power of concentrated money.

"In all the governments which were considered as beacons to republican patriots and lawgivers," he said, "the rights of persons were subjected to those of property. The poor were sacrificed to the rich."

Thus, wanting to establish a country where the rich didn't end up running it as their own private kingdom or oligarchy, he proposed that only the House of Representatives -- the only branch elected directly by the people, and every two years at that -- should have the power to raise taxes or spend federal funds.

"The time to guard against this danger is at the first forming of the Constitution," he said in his speech. "Liberty, not less than justice, pleads for the policy here recommended.

"If all power be suffered to slide into hands [of the rich]" he warned, the American citizenry will "become the dupes and instruments of ambition, or their poverty and dependence will render them the mercenary instruments of wealth. In either case liberty will be subverted: in the first, by a despotism growing out of anarchy; in the second, by an oligarchy founded on corruption."

And, indeed, the delegates assembled agreed. Only the House of Representatives, to this day, can raise taxes or spend money.

In a 1787 letter to Edward Carrington, Jefferson noted, "It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions; and experience declares that man is the only animal which devours his own kind; for I can apply no milder term to the governments of Europe, and to the general prey of the rich on the poor."

Fighting those instincts of human nature, he argued, was at the core of the American experiment. (Like George Washington and many of his peers, Jefferson died broke. America's first millionaire came along in 1791 -- a shipping magnate -- and none of the founders or framers were wealthy enough to leave an estate that lasted even to a second generation.)

In an 1816 letter to Samuel Kercheval, Jefferson explained, "I am not among those who fear the people. They, and not the rich, are our dependance (sic) for continued freedom."

He added that if we ended up with an oligarchic government that is run, directly or indirectly, by the rich, America's working people "must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four;" and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they [poor Europeans] now do, on oatmeal and potatoes; have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow sufferers."

One wonders how the employees of the giant corporations that throw so much money at the Republican Party would compare that metaphor with their own current existence, since the GOP has successfully fought any meaningful reform of union rights, universal health care, or the minimum wage since Reagan.

And they're using voting suppression to maintain a situation that's so hostile to workers that wages have actually fallen for the bottom half of American workers in the 38 years since Reagan's election in 1980.

Thomas Paine, in his 1795 Dissertation on First Principles of Government, noted that, "The right of voting for representatives is the primary right by which other rights are protected. To take away this right is to reduce a man to slavery, for slavery consists in being subject to the will of another, and he that has not a vote in the election of representatives is in this case."

If we fail to do something large, substantial and dramatic about the scourge of voter suppression, we must all begin learning how to rivet chains.

Those are our options.

https://www.opednews.com/articles/3/Stop-GOP-Voter-Suppression-by-Thom-Hartmann-Billionaires_Election_Politics_Voter-Fraud-181022-905.html

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HotCoffee 6 weeks 2 days ago
#20

Consider this,The Deplorable SSI01 Guest17 hours ago

There is ample documentation available, if you have the clearances, in the files of the USBP and local and state narcotics enforcement agencies on the southern border to support the proposition illegal aliens are a huge part of the narcotics-trafficking problem in this country. For decades illegals have had to each carry a small parcel of MJ or another drug across the border as part of the fee they pay the coyote who is guiding them and who himself has connections to the drug cartels. He's running the "mule train" of which these illegals have always been a part. If they refuse to carry their portion of the whole they are killed on the spot. It's called internal discipline. Lots of coyotes move drugs if they're not moving illegals. It's a disgusting situation all around that's been ignored for years like a lot of things involved in the "war on drugs" - that should have been over long ago.

That's one reason - one BIG reason - Trump is having so much trouble getting this wall built in a coordinated manner. There are too many people in positions of authority in the US govt - and its agencies - who are making a fortune in payoffs from the drug lords in SA and up here to keep looking the other way on this "wall" matter.

This payoff money is an excellent reason the construction should be handed over to the US Army Corps of Engineers to run, using Army labor. Keep civilians out of the process as much as possible. Materials will flow as needed. No engineered labor "shortages," no union problems, no problems with not enough equipment.

Erect the wall and run it the way it should be run, and drug imports to this country drop SUBSTANTIALLY, and overnight. It would be the beginning of the end for the drug makers and marketers in this country. The only means of production after that would be domestic labs that would be easy to track. Smuggled dope would have to come in by air (pretty easily tracked), or by sea (again, easily tracked - the USCG has displayed particular talent in finding and arresting - or sinking - these threats). Air shipments would necessarily have to be small and therefore easily controlled. Same with by boat.

We would FINALLY, after decades of effort in this country, have the upper hand against drugs.

But there is far, far too much money dangling in front of everyone here. A lot of people in the US, state, and local govts are getting rich or are maintaining their lifestyle, with that payoff money. Either to oppose the wall altogether - or engineer a slow-down in the works, like endless legal challenges.

And THAT is what is ultimately causing the wall not to be built. We need to dig deep - DEEP - up here to find the crooks in the govt who let this go on and on and on.

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HotCoffee 6 weeks 2 days ago
#21

and this by the same blogger,

Now, on to the illegal alien problem, of which this caravan is merely the latest manifestation.

It is the second-largest reason why the southern border is kept open - cheap labor that, if allowed, would have to be content with a few fish heads and a bowl of rice for a daily wage, rather than money. Trust me, if the national COC and major employers in this country could get away with it, that's what they'd pay these people. And native-born or naturalized Americans would be not far above them, I guarantee you, once the wages start falling - and we just got over a prolonged period of that, eight long, terrible years of people working two or even three jobs - all part time - to make ends meet.

The "caravan" - which I prefer to call an invasion force - is running the length of Mexico without any truly serious attempt on the part of the Mexican govt to stop it, and hopefully reverse its course and send it back to its point of origin. It's serving one useful purpose - to illustrate the half-assed measures the Mexican govt - if you can call it that - is taking to try to help maintain peace in this hemisphere.

But suppose those people are headed up here for a better life. I don't blame them for wanting in their heart to have a better life. Anyone who has had children (which, BTW, are truly lacking in the numbers of this invasion force) will experience that. To have a better life, your surroundings need to improve. And for that to happen, your government needs to be examined.

Why o why does everyone who is involved in this debacle support the desire of these people to flee their own countries and head to the USA as a means to address the problems? Does not the issue lie with the governments of Honduras, Guatemala, Ecuador, etc etc etc - run by two-bit tin-horn banana-republic dictators under a system the people just allow to keep running as it is?

These governments allow internal problems to continue to fester (for the good of the occupants of the presidential palace) and merely ship the possible insurgents out of the country via illegal immigration to the US. Not only that - those same governments cynically allow these illegal expats from their country to send back a LOT of money to their kin back home, which is intercepted upon arrival and a portion of which is absconded with by the govt to keep its criminal enterprise running. If we can see that - surely the US govt has seen it but has done NOTHING about it for decades. That's criminal. It's also inhuman.

But, again, back to the invasion force. Yes, indeed, illegal aliens have arrived in their hundreds of thousands over the years at the border just as these people are aiming to do. The difference here is they have NEVER arrived in a 14,000-strong mass, with two other invasion forces mobilizing behind them or already enroute. That sends a very definite, undeniable signal to those north of the border. It says, in effect, "We're here to take your land, your jobs, and change the very nature of the nation in which you live. We have an inherent right to the place where you live, and we will exercise that right. We're here to bankrupt you, turn your domestic affairs into the same mess we left behind in Guatemala, or wherever. And last, but certainly not least - we're here to bring with us diseases you in North America have, through diligent study and labor, managed to eradicate to protect yourselves and your children. Or, in some cases, diseases you've never seen before in this hemisphere - or anywhere."

And THAT's one HUGE reason we must have controlled immigration into this country. Health screening. It was one enormous reason Ellis Island on the East Coast - and Terminal Island on the West Coast - were built. No more epidemics in this country. And we're seeing it start to happen all over again.

Now, why would George Soros want to fund something like this? He doesn't want to destroy the United States - only its governmental system. He wants to keep the manufacturing or financial base, that which generates the money he wants to run his hands through over and over again. Under Obama we were in the middle of losing our manufacturing base - which, BTW, was the thing that gave the middle class in this country its wherewithal and means of livelihood. Move it overseas where employees will work for practically nothing - thus further maximizing Soros' profits and it only serves to his benfit. Under Hillary that manufacturing base would practically disappear, and the middle class along with it. History has shown whenever, in a given society, you have only two classes - the huge have-nots, and the very, very small have-it-alls, you put a permanent state of social crisis into effect. Social disorder is always just under the surface. A state of permanent impending or actual crisis makes it easy for Soros and his buddies to get the puppet government to crack down on the working minions in that society through the puppet government; if you keep people in a permanent state of upheaval you cause them to be concerned for their own day to day welfare; they don't have the time or energy for serious abstract thought, like that required to plot a successful revolt. It's all about control. And control, for the VERY wealthy like Soros, just means more money in their pocket and further advantage for their children and grandchildren - but certainly not for yours.

But most importantly, you have the means of tightening your control over the whole operation on a permanent basis, thus further enriching yourself.

It's a safe bet Soros and his like have connections, using money via crooked politicians and bureaucrats, with practically every nation and major corporation on this planet. Funding is the weak link, there is just so much money in this world controlled through a very few centers of influence and power; have a "hook" in each of those centers (which he does) and you've got control. A rogue like Trump upsets that balance and incurs the ire of the very wealthy - hence, he's got to go, along with the politics that put him in place.

Let me catch my breath and rest my fingers and we can explore this at greater length if you so desire.

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deepspace 6 weeks 2 days ago
#23

When you boil all the Republican blah-blah-blah, hollow words and phony excuses down to a blob of ink, it's nothing but naked racism.

And never forget that the desperate, persecuted human beings, and God's sacred children, streaming out of the dysfunctional, drug-gang infested Latin American countries are the hapless victims of America's wicked, fascistic foreign policies, propping up corporate-friendly autocrats who sold out their own people and democracies for the promise of concentrated wealth and power -- an evil policy that stretches back decades.

History is not kind to America's ruthless election interference, military excursions, and CIA/NSA interventions in foreign countries in favor of anti-democratic military juntas at the behest of the uberwealthy and at the expense of the people. And now the greed of the past is coming back to haunt us. Karma's a bitch!

At least our Southern neighbors understand the true meaning of compassion and empathy in welcoming strangers, which is clearly laid out in the Christian Bible as the way to heaven. Of course, phony radical Christianists on the right fringe (meaning the Republican Party) don't really think any of that sissy stuff actually applies to themselves; it might tarnish their own macho image as rugged individualists protecting a hallowed "way of life" (meaning white-man privilege).

Wake up!

BTW, Trump has made immigration and asylum into an even bigger mess through inherently racist, irreligious cruelty, while a Republican congress rocks on their shriveled up nuts, fools who simply can't govern, who can't even face down a deranged orange baboon with an addled brain.

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deepspace 6 weeks 2 days ago
#24

More right-wing Trump/Republican lies (IOW, another day in Trumpistan):

And the near-constant, albeit couched (sometimes not so much), incitements to violence at Trump's never-ending campaign rallies, coupled with his tacit support and admiration of the world's most ruthless strongmen, lead to predictable results:

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deepspace 6 weeks 2 days ago
#25

OpEdNews - 4/12/2018 -- From AlterNet

"Donald Trump and Paul Manafort Revived Nixon's Race-Based Hate Strategy for the 21st Century.

Just as conservative politicians easily use racism to generate votes, power, and money, the murder of Martin Luther King Jr. was also the result of racism for profit and political gain."

By Thom Hartmann and Lamar Waldron:

April 10th marked the 50th anniversary of the funeral of assassinated Civil Rights leader Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., capping a week of extensive press coverage about his life and death. However, all that coverage missed two key points that are even more important today than in 1968, when King was killed.

First is the matter of who paid for Dr. King's assassination. None of the recent press coverage noted that an extensive congressional investigation of King's murder "concluded that there was a likelihood of conspiracy" in King's assassination, and that "financial gain was [James Earl] Ray's primary motivation." Newly released files -- previously withheld by the FBI from Congress -- now show who paid for King's murder, and why.

The second major point overlooked by the press coverage is how Richard Nixon's racially divisive "Southern Strategy" of 1968 led directly to and paved the way for Donald Trump's successful racist campaign and governance strategy, with Paul Manafort being the surprising connection.

For two generations, conservative leaders -- from politicians to billionaires to media figures -- have used Nixon's proven techniques of "Fear, Ignorance, Bigotry and Smear" (FIBS) to divide-and-conquer white working-class Americans and acquire political power. In the absence of our media calling them out for FIBS, Nixon's strategy has repeatedly produced a Republican president and Congress, and held a right-wing Supreme Court.

But the most recent presidential race especially showcased the "Bigotry" part of Nixon's successful formula, in particular his "Southern Strategy," which allowed Nixon to use coded racist appeals designed to secure racist voters without turning off moderate voters.

For example, Nixon could avoid using the more direct racist appeals of a candidate like George Wallace by focusing instead on issues like his opposition to "forced busing" and his support for "preserving neighborhoods."

Nixon could proclaim himself the "law and order" candidate in public, all while in private he was involved in shady real estate deals, getting huge sums (legal and illegal) from corporations and his wealthy supporters (including foreign dictators who funneled money to him personally and supported his campaigns), and even committing treason (sabotaging LBJ's Vietnam peace deal in 1968) to win the election.

If those techniques sound familiar in the age of Trump, it's no accident.

Paul Manafort -- Trump's longtime associate and former campaign manager--has a long history of helping conservative Republican presidential candidates effectively apply Nixon's Southern Strategy.

In 1980, Manafort was the Southern campaign coordinator for candidate Ronald Reagan. In that capacity, Manafort had Reagan speak at a county fair in Mississippi just a few miles from where three Civil Rights workers (Goodman, Chaney, and Schwerner) were murdered by racists in 1964.

Instead of using his speech to condemn those killings, Reagan instead spoke of his support for "states' rights," a term racist Southern politicians used in the 1960s to justify their discrimination and Jim Crow laws. (The term was so well known that the notorious white supremacist -- and convicted church bomber -- J. B. Stoner named his organization the National States' Rights Party.)

https://www.opednews.com/articles/Donald-Trump-and-Paul-Mana-by-Thom-Hartmann-Conspiracy_Hate-Groups_Hate-Racism-Bigotry_Nixoncare-180412-493.html

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deepspace 6 weeks 2 days ago
#26

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OpEdNews - 4/12/2018 -- From AlterNet

"Donald Trump and Paul Manafort Revived Nixon's Race-Based Hate Strategy for the 21st Century.

Just as conservative politicians easily use racism to generate votes, power, and money, the murder of Martin Luther King Jr. was also the result of racism for profit and political gain."

By Thom Hartmann and Lamar Waldron:

After the notorious political hatchet man Lee Atwater joined Manafort's firm, Atwater masterminded the infamous "Willie Horton" attack ad for George H. W. Bush that doomed Michael Dukakis's race for the presidency.

Atwater summed up the Reagan/Bush version of Nixon's Southern Strategy best, in 1981, when he pointed out to a group of Republican political operatives that, in the 1950s, white politicians could simply use the N-word, repeatedly.

"By 1968," however, Atwater explained that instead of the N-word, white politicians instead used terms like "forced busing, states' rights, and all that stuff," including "economic things" like "cutting taxes" a byproduct of [which] is blacks get hurt worse than whites."

When Paul Manafort moved from being Trump's business associate to being his campaign manager, Trump began using more subtle racist appeals, straight out of Nixon's Southern Strategy.

These include Trump echoing Nixon to the word, saying he'd protect (white) Americans from threats to "our way of life"; exploiting exaggerated fears of crime; and even proclaiming himself the "law and order" candidate, just like Nixon.

The result? Southern states provided more than half of Trump's electoral votes, and he won white voters by 21 percent, according to Facing South (whose work by Facing South's Sue Sturgis we've cited extensively).

Donald Trump's words and actions continue to this day to echo the racial politics of 1968, from his support of the Charlottesville racists to his public support by former Klan leader David Duke. Just like Nixon, Trump combines the more refined Southern Strategy of Nixon with the populist platitudes of George Wallace, to pander to bigotry and create fear of minorities in white working-class voters -- all while enriching himself and his cronies.

As in 1968, creating such an atmosphere is dangerous, since it helped lead to the assassination of Martin Luther King. Just as conservative politicians easily use racism to generate votes, power, and money, King's murder was also the result of racism for profit and political gain.

As we extensively documented in our book Legacy of Secrecy, Martin Luther King's assassination resulted from a bounty on his life put out by four Georgia white supremacists, led by Joseph Milteer.

For years, Milteer and his associates had been collecting money weekly at one of Atlanta's largest factories (whose peak employment was over 7,000), promising the white factory workers a plot to kill King, who was also based out of Atlanta.

By late 1967 and early 1968, Milteer's contributors were getting anxious: Not only was King still alive, but no serious attempt to assassinate him had been reported in the press. (That was because Milteer and his associates had been using the money not to kill King, but to buy up large tracts of undeveloped mountain land in North Carolina.)

Eager to placate their contributors, but unable to find a hitman on their own, Milteer turned to the Mafia for help, according to Justice Department files that were previously withheld from congressional investigators.

Those Justice Department files say that "a well-placed prote'ge' of [godfather] Carlos Marcello in New Orleans" revealed that that Mafia in New Orleans "agreed to 'broker' or arrange the assassination [of King] for an amount somewhat in excess of three hundred thousand dollars" on behalf of "an elite" group of "wealthy segregationists," and specified Milteer's tiny hometown of Quitman (not a typo), Georgia, as their base.

In addition, Milteer had ties with Marcello's organization going back to 1963, when Milteer accurately predicted JFK's murder on a Miami police informant tape less than two weeks before the crime, saying that JFK would be shot "with a high-powered rifle from a tall building" and that authorities "will pick up somebody within hours" just to throw the public off." Milteer even mentioned an earlier plot to kill King on that same 1963 police undercover tape.

In late 1967 and early 1968, James Earl Ray was a very low-level drug runner involved with Marcello's organization, according to government files and the congressional investigation. Other files say the King contract had two parts, one for the actual shooter and a smaller amount for a "spotter," to track King's movements, so the shooter could remain out-of-sight until the last possible moment. It's not clear to this day if Ray was hired as the hitman or the spotter.

Tragically, while the House Select Committee on Assassinations investigated Milteer and Marcello for JFK's murder (and concluded that "Marcello had the motive, means, and opportunity to assassinate President Kennedy"), the Committee -- chaired by Rep. Louis Stokes -- didn't include Marcello or Milteer in their investigation of King's murder.

https://www.opednews.com/articles/2/Donald-Trump-and-Paul-Mana-by-Thom-Hartmann-Conspiracy_Hate-Groups_Hate-Racism-Bigotry_Nixoncare-180412-493.html

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deepspace 6 weeks 2 days ago
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OpEdNews - 4/12/2018 -- From AlterNet

"Donald Trump and Paul Manafort Revived Nixon's Race-Based Hate Strategy for the 21st Century.

Just as conservative politicians easily use racism to generate votes, power, and money, the murder of Martin Luther King Jr. was also the result of racism for profit and political gain."

By Thom Hartmann and *Lamar Waldron:

That was likely because the FBI withheld key files about both men from the Committee. Though, as mentioned earlier, the Committee in 1979 "concluded that there was a likelihood of conspiracy" in King's assassination, and "financial gain was Ray's primary motivation."

Not that you'd know about the Committee or its conspiracy conclusion from the mainstream press coverage of King's assassination.

That's largely because some key files about King's murder -- including those about Marcello and Milteer -- are still being withheld from Congress, despite the 1992 JFK Act which required their release by October 2017.

When the FBI, CIA, Secret Service, and other agencies made last-minute appeals to keep certain files secret, Trump created a new deadline of April 26, 2018. However, many of the most important files about King's and JFK's murders won't be released then, because they aren't even on the master list -- prepared by the National Archives -- of documents and tapes that might be released.

Luckily, key files have sometimes slipped through the declassification process and historians, journalists, and researchers often share their efforts, so more information about King's murder continues to come to light. For the past four years, Waldron has been working on an as-yet-unpublished new book about King's assassination, which includes new information about Milteer and Marcello's roles in the crime, from exclusive files about each.

King's 1968 murder and Nixon's Southern Strategy were created the same year, and both continue to have enormous impact on America today. There are also surprising connections between the players involved in each.

For example, Justice Department files show that Nixon received two separate million-dollar bribes from Carlos Marcello and his associates, one in September 1960 (when Nixon was vice president) and the other for President Nixon's December 1971 release of Jimmy Hoffa from prison (with special conditions the Mafia wanted).

Nixon was also the first proponent of Donald Trump running for president, according to the man who introduced them, Roger Stone, and all three had ties to Roy Cohn, the notorious Mafia lawyer and fixer. Donald Trump even boasted, in 1985, that Roy Cohn was his most important mentor.

Cohn, who got his start with Joe McCarthy and became a mob favorite, wasn't a typical lawyer; Cohn specialized in using threats, intimidation, and blackmail to get what he wanted (for himself and for his Mafia clients).

Ironically, in 1985 -- the same year Cohn was mentoring Donald Trump -- FBI files show that Carlos Marcello tried to hire Roy Cohn to help spring him from prison.

If cream rises to the top, one wonders what the reverse of that is, where men like Nixon, Marcello, Milteer, Cohn, Trump, etc., always seemed to find a new low.

* Lamar Waldron, called "one of the best investigative journalists" by the Chicago Tribune, most recently authored The Hidden History of the JFK Assassination.

https://www.opednews.com/articles/3/Donald-Trump-and-Paul-Mana-by-Thom-Hartmann-Conspiracy_Hate-Groups_Hate-Racism-Bigotry_Nixoncare-180412-493.html

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Dianereynolds 6 weeks 2 days ago
#28

Morning HotCoffee,

The horde at the border is interesting. Many are thinking it is promoted and financed by an ousted leftist political party in Venezuela. Promise made to relatively ignorant people, rumors passed on, and all of a sudden the ball gets rolling. Problem is, if the doors are opened without proper procedure, they cannot be closed again.

Best thing we can do is process them one individual at a time through one door at the border. After a five or six year wait in line, they may decide it may be better to stay in Mexico.

Hope everyone enjoyed the chili dogs.

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HotCoffee 6 weeks 2 days ago
#29

Good day DianeR,

Notice that the horde is mostly young men and when the run into any confrontation ( like a border fence ) they push the vey few women and children to the front for protection.

Hardly anyone looks like they have missed a meal for quite some time.

If dems want them here so much, they should sponser them and take them into their homes and sign up to be legally financially responsible for those they sponsor. Otherwise our resources should go to the homeless we have now.

Any democratic parent would feed and cloth their own child before feeding the child of a stranger down the street. It's just basic human instinct. However it's the Dems with the high fences in a gated community that want to bring these folks into the poorist communities.

More sad news this morning....more people hurt...so sad!

On the turkey front...I was late feeding them this morning and saw a Turkey running over to see me with an apple in his mouth. Never saw that before.

Enjoy!

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deepspace 6 weeks 2 days ago
#30

"All Jews must die!" -- Robert Bowers

This didn't happen in a vacuum and, lamentably, is not a random, one-off act of horrible gun violence. Right-wing hate, anger, and violence are on the rise, especially after the installment by a non-democratic, slave-era institution of an illegitimate , white supremacist, misogynistic asshole as fake president. (He lost the popular vote by a huuuge margin, and is one of the most unpopular presidents in history.)

The "invasion" white folk should be worrying about is populated primarily by White male homegrown terrorists who've been hopelessly indoctrinated by radical Christian nationalism and by far-right hate groups, whose members invariably vote either Republican or Libertarian, which is a particular nasty form of extreme Republicanism promoted by the vast, well-funded propaganda network of the billionaire class, of which Charles Koch has been the leading fomenter. This "vast right-wing conspiracy" (Hillary was absolutely correct in that assessment) pours more money into our election process than either major party. Virtually all of that money, save for the few pennies thrown at Republican-light Democrats, is lavished on Republican corporate stooges.

So, why is this frightening derailment of democracy not of utmost concern for most rank-and-file Republicans? Oh that's right, their fascist candidates are the major beneficiaries of billionaire donor largesse.

One-party rule! USA! USA! USA!

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deepspace 6 weeks 2 days ago
#31

The Thom Hartman Program 8/28/18.

One-party-rule, billionaire-funded autocrats are very actively subverting our democracy. The Russians are rank amateurs in comparison.

Time once again to reexamine what fascism means in modern-day America:

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HotCoffee 6 weeks 2 days ago
#32

As a fresh wave of refugees from the so-called North Triangle reaches the U.S.-Mexico border, Trump isn't the only one asking if Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador are keeping their end of the bargain.

"The violence is bad, the conditions horrible, but at the same time it is not the responsibility of the U.S.A. to solve all the problems of other countries," says Ana Quintana, executive director of the Allison Center for Foreign Policy Studies.

Over the past decade, U.S. taxpayers have provided $1.5 billion in aid to El Salvador, $1.4 billion to Guatemala and $1.1 billion to Honduras, according to the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID).

Yet according to the thousands of migrants seeking asylum in the U.S., all three countries remain mired in poverty and beset by gang and drug violence. Corruption, they say, has never been worse.

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HotCoffee 6 weeks 2 days ago
#33

The pre-war co-op on New York’s Upper West Side, across the street from Central Park, was the fictional home of “Seinfeld” character Elaine Benes.

In real life it’s where an accused Sinaloa drug kingpin stashed fentanyl to be weighed, bagged and labeled for sale on New York streets under the names “UBER,” “Panda,” and “Wild Card.”

When narcotics agents raided Apartment 6D in August, they found 1,100 glassine envelopes of the deadly synthetic heroin, plus everything else needed for a distribution mill: bags of bulk fentanyl, stamps, ledgers, gloves, masks, rubber bands, a heat sealing device and a gun stuffed between couch cushions.

The iconic building was the final stop on just one artery of an illicit pipeline stretching all the way back to China.

Flowing in one direction, this fentanyl pipeline runs through Mexican cartel strongholds and heads north on well-established drug trafficking routes. It funnels 80 percent of the drug through the San Diego border before dispersing throughout the U.S.

The pipeline flows in another direction, as well, direct from Chinese laboratories to U.S. customers through the mail, bringing small, hard-to-detect packages of extremely pure fentanyl to suburban doorsteps.

Both channels are feeding a deadly epidemic, moving a drug so potent that the equivalent of a few grains of table salt can be fatal.

In 2016, fentanyl-type drugs were responsible for killing nearly 20,000 people in the U.S., according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Sealing the fentanyl pipeline, however, has proven to be thus far an insurmountable challenge. The effort involves navigating delicate political relations with China and Mexico, addressing weaknesses at U.S. borders and within international mail systems that continue to allow narcotics to slip through unnoticed, battling nimble and powerful drug traffickers, and trying to keep up with enterprising chemists who constantly skirt drug controls with new formulations.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/sd-me-fentanyl-pi...

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HotCoffee 6 weeks 2 days ago
#34

Official Site of The LOS ANGELES POLICE DEPARTMENT

All Most Wantedhttp://www.lapdonline.org/all_most_wanted

Notice something here? Ok lets move north to San Jose.

http://www.sjpd.org/boi/wanted/

Santa Rosa?

https://srcity.org/1050/Most-Wanted

Get the picture???

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deepspace 6 weeks 2 days ago
#35

ALERT! (#33)

You are plagiarizing other people's work without proper attribution and are copying long passages without permission, which are both illegal and unethical. (However, you may post Thom's own material in full, with accreditation, since this is his website.

Imigh leat, óinseach! Téigh trasna ort féin.

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deepspace 6 weeks 2 days ago
#36

(1 of 3)

OpEdNews - 5/1/2018 - From Common Dreams

"Fascists Compete To Own America.

Now might be a really good time to examine the origins and nature of the whole right-wing collusion between business and government."

By Thom Hartmann:

Given how reactive hard right snowflakes have gotten in response to a few truth-based jokes from Michelle Wolf, and that Mick Mulvaney has confessed to running a pay-for-play operation out of his congressional office, and Trump is daily breaking the Constitution's emoluments clause, now might be a really good time to examine the origins and nature of the whole right-wing business/government model known as "fascism."

Although most Americans remember that Harry Truman was Franklin D. Roosevelt's Vice President when Roosevelt died in 1945 (making Truman President), Roosevelt had two previous Vice Presidents -- John N. Garner (1933-1941) and Henry A. Wallace (1941-1945).

In early 1944, the New York Times asked Vice President Henry Wallace to, as Wallace noted, "write a piece answering the following questions: What is a fascist? How many fascists have we? How dangerous are they?"

Vice President Wallace's answer to those questions was published in The New York Times on April 9, 1944, at the height of the war against the Axis powers of Germany and Japan.

"The really dangerous American fascists," Wallace wrote, "are not those who are hooked up directly or indirectly with the Axis. The FBI has its finger on those. The dangerous American fascist is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information."

And [he] continued, "With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power."

In this, Wallace was using the classic definition of the word "fascist" -- the definition Mussolini had in mind when he claimed to have invented the word. (It was actually Italian philosopher Giovanni Gentile who wrote the entry in the Encyclopedia Italiana that said: "Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." Mussolini, however, affixed his name to the entry, and claimed credit for it.)

As the 1983 American Heritage Dictionary noted, fascism is: "A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."

Mussolini was quite straightforward about all this. In a 1923 pamphlet titled "The Doctrine of Fascism" he wrote, "If classical liberalism spells individualism, Fascism spells government." But not a government of, by, and for We The People -- instead, it would be a government of, by, and for the most powerful corporate interests in the nation.

In 1938, Mussolini brought his vision of fascism into full reality when he dissolved Parliament and replaced it with the "Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni" -- the Chamber of the Fascist Corporations. Corporations were still privately owned, but now instead of having to sneak their money to folks like Mick Mulvaney or Scott Pruitt and covertly write legislation in a soundproof telephone booth, they were openly in charge of the government.

Vice President Wallace bluntly laid out in his 1944 Times article his concern about the same happening here in America:

"If we define an American fascist as one who in case of conflict puts money and power ahead of human beings, then there are undoubtedly several million fascists in the United States. There are probably several hundred thousand if we narrow the definition to include only those who in their search for money and power are ruthless and deceitful. ... They are patriotic in time of war because it is to their interest to be so, but in time of peace they follow power and the dollar wherever they may lead."

Nonetheless, at that time there were few corporate heads who would run for political office, and, in Wallace's view, most politicians still felt it was their obligation to represent We The People instead of corporate cartels.

https://www.opednews.com/articles/Fascists-Compete-To-Own-Am-by-Thom-Hartmann-American-Facism_American-Hegenomy_American-History_American-Presidents-180501-19.html

cont'd...

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deepspace 6 weeks 2 days ago
#37

cont'd (2 of 3) ...

OpEdNews - 5/1/2018 - From Common Dreams

"Fascists Compete To Own America.

Now might be a really good time to examine the origins and nature of the whole right-wing collusion between business and government."

By Thom Hartmann:

"American fascism will not be really dangerous," he added in the next paragraph, "until there is a purposeful coalition among the cartelists, the deliberate poisoners of public information..."

Noting that, "Fascism is a worldwide disease," Wallace further suggest that fascism's "greatest threat to the United States will come after the war" and will manifest "within the United States itself."

In Sinclair Lewis's 1935 novel "It Can't Happen Here," a conservative southern politician is helped to the presidency by a nationally syndicated radio talk show host. The politician -- Buzz Windrip -- runs his campaign on family values, the flag, and patriotism, while being covertly supported by the richest and most powerful of America's corporate elite. Windrip and the talk show host portray advocates of traditional American democracy as anti-American.

When Windrip becomes president, he opens a Guantanamo-style detention center, and the viewpoint character of the book, Vermont newspaper editor Doremus Jessup, flees to Canada to avoid prosecution under new "patriotic" laws that make it illegal to criticize the president.

As Lewis noted in his novel, "the President, with something of his former good-humor [said]: 'There are two [political] parties, the Corporate and those who don't belong to any party at all, and so, to use a common phrase, are just out of luck!' The idea of the Corporate or Corporative State, Secretary [of State] Sarason had more or less taken from Italy."

And, President "Windrip's partisans called themselves the Corporatists, or, familiarly, the 'Corpos,' which nickname was generally used."

Lewis, the first American writer to win a Nobel Prize, was world famous by 1944, as was his book "It Can't Happen Here." And several well-known and powerful Americans, including Prescott Bush, had lost businesses in the early 1940s because of charges by Roosevelt that they were doing business with Hitler.

These events all, no doubt, colored Vice President Wallace's thinking when he wrote:

"Still another danger is represented by those who, paying lip service to democracy and the common welfare, in their insatiable greed for money and the power which money gives, do not hesitate surreptitiously to evade the laws designed to safeguard the public from monopolistic extortion. American fascists of this stamp were clandestinely aligned with their German counterparts before the war, and are even now preparing to resume where they left off, after 'the present unpleasantness' ceases."

Fascists have an agenda that is primarily economic. As the Free Dictionarynotes, fascism/corporatism is "an attempt to create a 'modern' version of feudalism by merging the 'corporate' interests with those of the state."

Feudalism, of course, is one of the most stable of the three historic tyrannies (kingdoms, theocracies, feudalism) that Thomas Jefferson identified as the ones that ruled nations prior to the rise of American republican democracy, and can be roughly defined as "rule by the rich."

Thus, the neo-feudal/fascistic rich get richer (and more powerful) on the backs of the poor and the middle class, an irony not lost on author Thomas Frank, who notes in "What's The Matter With Kansas" that, "You can see the paradox first-hand on nearly any Main Street in middle America -- 'going out of business' signs side by side with placards supporting [the Republican president]."

The businesses "going out of business" are, in fascist administrations, usually those of locally owned small and medium-sized companies. As Wallace wrote, some in big business "are willing to jeopardize the structure of American liberty to gain some temporary advantage."

He added:

"Monopolists who fear competition and who distrust democracy because it stands for equal opportunity would like to secure their position against small and energetic enterprise [companies]. In an effort to eliminate the possibility of any rival growing up, some monopolists would sacrifice democracy itself."

But American fascists who would want former CEOs to fill the roles as the leaders of the GOP, and write legislation with corporate interests in mind, don't generally talk to We The People about their real agenda, or the harm it does to small businesses and working people.

https://www.opednews.com/articles/2/Fascists-Compete-To-Own-Am-by-Thom-Hartmann-American-Facism_American-Hegenomy_American-History_American-Presidents-180501-19.html

cont'd...

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deepspace 6 weeks 2 days ago
#38

cont'd (3 of 3) ...

OpEdNews - 5/1/2018 - From Common Dreams

"Fascists Compete To Own America.

Now might be a really good time to examine the origins and nature of the whole right-wing collusion between business and government."

By Thom Hartmann:

Instead, as Hitler did with the trade union leaders and the Jews, they point to a "them" to pin with blame and distract people from the harms of their economic policies.

In a comment prescient of Donald Trump's recent suggestion that America itself is at risk because of brown-skinned immigrants, Wallace continued:

"The symptoms of fascist thinking are colored by environment and adapted to immediate circumstances. But always and everywhere they can be identified by their appeal to prejudice and by the desire to play upon the fears and vanities of different groups in order to gain power. It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice. It may be shocking to some people in this country to realize that, without meaning to do so, they hold views in common with Hitler when they preach discrimination..."

But even at this, Wallace noted, American fascists would have to lie to the people in order to gain power. And, because they were in bed with the nation's largest corporations -- who could gain control of newspapers and broadcast media -- they could promote their lies with ease.

"The American fascists are most easily recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact," Wallace wrote. "Their newspapers and propaganda carefully cultivate every fissure of disunity, every crack in the common front against fascism. They use every opportunity to impugn democracy."

In his strongest indictment of the tide of fascism the Vice President of the United States saw rising in America, he added:

"They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection." (emphasis added)

In contrast to GOP fascism, the progressive vision of an egalitarian America in which very large businesses and media monopolies are broken up under the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Act (which Reagan stopped enforcing, leading to the mergers and acquisitions frenzy that continues to this day) was the driving vision of the New Deal (and of "Trust Buster" Teddy Roosevelt a generation earlier).

As Wallace's President, Franklin D. Roosevelt, said when he accepted his party's renomination in 1936 in Philadelphia, "...out of this modern civilization, economic royalists [have] carved new dynasties.... It was natural and perhaps human that the privileged princes of these new economic dynasties, thirsting for power, reached out for control over government itself. They created a new despotism and wrapped it in the robes of legal sanction.... And as a result the average man once more confronts the problem that faced the Minute Man...."

Speaking indirectly of the fascists that Wallace would directly name almost a decade later, Roosevelt brought the issue to its core:

"These economic royalists complain that we seek to overthrow the institutions of America. What they really complain of is that we seek to take away their power." But, he thundered, "Our allegiance to American institutions requires the overthrow of this kind of power!"

Standing up to corporate and billionaire power, now firmly in charge of the Trump administration, we again stand at the same crossroad Roosevelt and Wallace confronted during the Great Depression and World War II.

Fascism is rising in America, this time calling itself "conservativism." The Republican politicians and their billionaire donors' behavior today eerily parallels that day in 1936 when Roosevelt said, "In vain they seek to hide behind the flag and the Constitution. In their blindness they forget what the flag and the Constitution stand for."

It's particularly ironic that the very news media trashing Michelle Wolf seems blind to the fact that the billionaire Koch Network and its related organizations now have more employees and a larger infrastructure and better funding than the GOP. Republicans are so beholden to fossil fuel billionaire's money that they're willing to lie about basic science and put our entire species at risk.

Like Eisenhower's farewell address, which also warned about the "misplaced" rise of corporate power in the defense industry, President Roosevelt and Vice President Wallace's warnings about the rise of corporate and billionaire power are more urgent now than ever before.

https://www.opednews.com/articles/3/Fascists-Compete-To-Own-Am-by-Thom-Hartmann-American-Facism_American-Hegenomy_American-History_American-Presidents-180501-19.html

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Dianereynolds 6 weeks 2 days ago
#39

HotCoffee, love the turkey story. Do you suppose the turkey was rewarding you for providing their food?

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HotCoffee 6 weeks 2 days ago
#40

DS,

I think Thom's 130 fans already looked at your posts from Opednews.

I think my Turkeys have more fans than that, and rightly so.

So dumb & childish...your middle finger salutes..............grow up!

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HotCoffee 6 weeks 2 days ago
#41

DianeR,

Not sure, but when I went back later it looked like he took the apple with him...it was gone....LOL Maybe there was a worm in there ??? At first I thought it was stuck on his beak but when he saw me he tossed it and came runnin over.

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HotCoffee 6 weeks 2 days ago
#42

‘Human Caravan’ Turns Down Asylum Offer By Mexico Government – Declares Intent To Keep Marching Into AmericaPosted on October 27, 2018 by DCWhispers

It is a move that will do nothing to diminish the belief by many that the ‘human caravan’ marching from Central America to the United States is nothing more than a paid political stunt intended to create chaos and division at the U.S./Mexico southern border. The self-proclaimed ‘refugees’ have been granted asylum by the Mexican government. These refugees refused which would indicate they are not refugees at all—but something else entirely.

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deepspace 6 weeks 2 days ago
#43

#40;

LMAO! Glad you appreciate the level of communication intended. Hey, just returning the salute there, óinseach. (In the pic, which one are you anyway? Holding the Trump sign? Ms. Congeniality front and center?)

Téigh trasna ort féin is so befitting, though, considering all the dust you're kicking up, the poorly sourced, widely debunked, far-right lies and conspiracy theories you shamelessly spread (mixed up with meaningless anecdotes), to which you seem thoroughly addicted. Unfortunately, you may be too old to grow out of such gross, long-term distortions of reality, HotGranny. Sad. To which loony bin should flowers be sent?

As explained before:

"You had ample opportunity to come clean as a Trump troll, to do your homework, and to speak to the big issues of our time on Thom's Blog; instead, as a dumbed-down Republican and fascist follower, you've chosen to display abject ignorance, proving yourself over and over to be hopelessly scatterbrained, deliberately deflecting, intellectually dishonest, and a habitual purveyor of despicable right-wing lies -- in other words, a willfully ignorant Trump troll. What you clueless eejits call "opposing opinions" are nothing but flat-out lies easily proven as such. And I don't suffer fools or liars gladly."

BTW, isn't it obvious from the ridiculous nonsense you post that not only do you simply disagree with just about everything Thom Hartmann, but you don't even read his articles or listen much to him on air -- reading and listening for total comprehension, that is? Added to intellectual negligence, laziness and dishonesty, what little is gleaned usually is distorted.

Yet, as most arrogant pissants do, Trump trolls (A Limbot, for god sakes!) refuse to seriously engage with the truly big issues facing humankind that Thom continuously brings up, while expecting others to follow into the ground endless right-wing memes of little value, obscuring the truth.

No thanks, óinseach, I'll stick with truthtellers rather than liars. After all, this is Thom's site, meant for getting at the truth of things --the big things, not yours for disseminating regressive garbage -- the little things.

So, by all means, "Téigh trasna ort féin!"

FYI: Virtually all your posts regarding politics contain some element of mistruth. (Focusing on fan base rather than the veracity of important issues is rather childish, don't you think?) Therefore, the following post corrects the record about Thom's popularity as a progressive talk-show host and respected author, taken directly from his home page bio:

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deepspace 6 weeks 2 days ago
#44

Thom Hartmann's bio from his homepage:

Thom Hartmann is a progressive national and internationally syndicated talkshow host whose shows are available in over a half-billion homes worldwide. He's the New York Times bestselling, 4-times Project Censored Award winning author of 24 books in print in 17 languages on five continents. Leonardo DiCaprio was inspired by Thom's book "The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight" to make the movie "The 11th Hour" (in which Thom appears), and Warner Brothers is making a movie starring DiCaprio and Robert De Niro from the book Thom co-authored with Lamar Waldron, "Legacy of Secrecy."

Talkers Magazine named Thom Hartmann as the 8th most important talk show host in America in 2011, 2012, and 2013 (10th the two previous years), and for three of the past five years the #1 most important progressive host, in their “Heavy Hundred” ranking. His radio show is syndicated on for-profit radio stations nationwide by Westwood One, on non-profit and community stations nationwide by Pacifica, across the entire North American continent on SiriusXM Satellite radio (The Progress, Channel 127), on cable systems nationwide by Cable Radio Network (CRN), on its own YouTube channel, via Livestream on its own Livestream channel, via subscription podcasts, worldwide through the US Armed Forces Network, and through the Thom Hartmann App in the App Store. The radio show is also simulcast as TV in realtime into nearly 40 million US and Canadian homes by the Free Speech TV Network on Dish Network, DirectTV, and cable TV systems nationwide.

Thom has spent much of his life working with and for the international Salem relief organization (www.saleminternational.org) and he and his wife Louise founded a community for abused children in New Hampshire (www.salemchildrensvillage.org) and a school for learning disabled and ADHD kids (www.hunterschool.org). His book "Attention Deficit Disorder: A Different Perception" sparked a national debate, both in the psychology/psychiatry community and among the general public, on ADD/ADHD and neurological differences ranging from giftedness to autism. His book "Rebooting The American Dream" so inspired Senator Bernie Sanders that he wrote a cover letter to accompany the delivery of the book to his 99 colleagues in the United States Senate and he read from it extensively on the floor of the Senate during his famous filibuster.

As an entrepreneur, he's also founded several successful businesses which still are operating, and lived and worked with his wife, Louise, and their three children on several continents.

An inveterate traveler and sometimes a risk-taker, Hartmann has often found himself in the world's hot spots on behalf of the German-based Salem international relief organization or as a writer, a situation which causes his friends to sometimes wonder aloud if he works for the CIA (he does not and never has). He was, for example, in The Philippines when Ferdinand Marcos fled the country; in Egypt the week Anwar Sadat was shot; in Uganda during the war of liberation by Tanzania; in Hungary when the first East German refugees arrived; in Germany when the wall came down; in Beijing during the first student demonstrations; in Thailand when the military coup of 1991 occurred; in Barbados during the 2004 anti-government strikes and shutdowns; in Bogota and Medellin, Colombia, during the spate of killings of presidential candidates; in Israel, in the West Bank town of Nablus, the week the Intifada started there; on the Czech border the week Chernobyl melted down; in Kenya during the first big wave of crackdowns on dissidents; at dinner in Moscow with Vladimer Putin and Mikhael Gorbachev as Donald Trump was sweeping the Republican field Christmas 2016; and in Venezuela during the 1991 coup attempt. He has been successful in avoiding some disasters, however. For example, he was out of the country when George H.W. Bush picked Dan Quayle as his running mate.

He was born and grew up in Michigan, and retains strong ties to the Midwest, although he and Louise have lived in New Hampshire, Vermont, Georgia, Germany, and Oregon...and now live with a small menagerie in Portland, Oregon.

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deepspace 6 weeks 2 days ago
#45

Meanwhile, after swatting dung flies away, back to one of the truly big issues, if not the biggest, facing life on Mother Earth: anthropogenic climate disruption.

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deepspace 6 weeks 2 days ago
#46

OpEdNews - 4/28/2018 - (1 of 3) - from Alternet

"We May Be on the Verge of a Human-Made Climate Disaster.

Is Europe about to experience famine?"

By Thom Hartmann:

New research shows that we may well be on the edge of a civilization-destroying climate change event. And we must do something about it.

Most Americans are at least vaguely familiar with the Irish Potato Famine of 1845, but few could tell you much at all about the much larger planet-wide famine of 1816. But Europeans can tell you all about the "Year Without a Summer," because their news sometimes references it in the context of global climate change. It's one of the deepest fears of many Europeans.

The reason a famine from 200 years ago spooks modern Europeans is because climate change could bring it back, only this time it would be long-lasting rather than just hanging on for one year. As such, it could throw Europe and parts of North America into prolonged famine, disease, depopulation, civil strife, and war" just as climate change has the Mideast in the past decades.

But first, to understand the Year Without a Summer and how it informs us about this new danger, step into the Wayback Machine.

In 1815, Mount Tambora in the Dutch East Indies erupted, throwing an enormous amount of ash into the upper atmosphere. As this layer of ash circled the globe, it cooled the planet -- for the next year -- by somewhere between .7 degrees and 1.3 degrees Fahrenheit.

That was enough to throw Europe into the worst famine of the entire 19th or 20th centuries.

As Wikipedia (and hundreds of other sources) notes:

"Cool temperatures and heavy rains resulted in failed harvests in Britain and Ireland. Families in Wales traveled long distances begging for food. Famine was prevalent in north and southwest Ireland, following the failure of wheat, oat, and potato harvests. In Germany, the crisis was severe; food prices rose sharply. With the cause of the problems unknown, people demonstrated in front of grain markets and bakeries, and later riots, arson, and looting took place in many European cities. It was the worst famine of 19th-century Europe."

And this was just one single year of less than 1 degrees Celsius of cooling.

Imagine if the cold never ended, but persisted decade after decade, and the cold was far greater than just a one-degree drop. Europe would experience widespread famine and massive political disruption.

Climate change disrupting entire civilizations is not merely hypothetical. Scientists (including political scientists) now know that over the past 30 years global warming pushed the desert south in Syria and other parts of the Middle East, displacing over a million farming families as their farms turned to dust and sand, setting up today's Syrian Civil War (and conflicts from Egypt to Libya to Tunisia).

With just a few years of prolonged crop-unfriendly weather, Europe would be in even worse shape than Syria is today. Chaos, death, famine, and disease would rule the continent, while demand for food would trigger crises across the world.

https://www.opednews.com/articles/1/We-May-Be-on-the-Verge-of-by-Thom-Hartmann-Climate-Change_Disaster_Famine_Water-180428-225.html

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Dianereynolds 6 weeks 1 day ago
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Morning HotCoffee, Thanks to you I am learning turkey culture, both the feathered kind as well as the one here that puts on display what happens when you combine living in your parents basement with no sleep and way too much alcohol. Fascinating to watch the deterioration among the leftie/socialists. The yuuge crowds Trump continues to draw must be very frustrating for them.

https://www.facebook.com/newdrudge/posts/two-mile-long-line-for-trump-rally-in-springfield-missouri/762258780783395/

Reading your links on the horde marching through Mexico and discovering that Mexico offered them asylum yet they refuse and continue to march toward our borders pretty much convinces me that this is a leftie financed deal gone wrong. It will turn out to be the biggest boon for Trump and those pushing for a solid wall than anyone could imagine.

Trump wins again.

Onward with those conservative judge picks as that pain lasts for a very long time. Follow the constitution? Who wouda thunk.

Warn the Turkeys about the upcoming Thanksgiving.

See ya!

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HotCoffee 6 weeks 1 day ago
#48

Good Day DianeR,

A suprise shower here last night...clean fresh air this morning...sparkling drops on the trees...just awesome!

Turkeys quite safe here...they will get the extra bread crumbs from the stuffing.

Todays link.....

Understanding the Socialist Delusion

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/10/understanding_the_socialist_delusion.html

Hope you have a beautiful day!

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deepspace 6 weeks 1 day ago
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OpEdNews - 4/28/2018 - from Alternet

"We May Be on the Verge of a Human-Made Climate Disaster.

Is Europe about to experience famine?"

By Thom Hartmann:

But how can global warming provoke cooling in the eastern part of North America and across Europe?

The scenario was the plot basis (albeit wildly exaggerated) of the 2004 sci-fi film The Day After Tomorrow.

A deep ocean current sometimes called the Great Conveyor Belt (scientifically called the AMOC or Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation) brings warm South Pacific water down under the southern tip of Africa, and then up the east coast of South and North America (we call it the Gulf Stream) to western Europe. (Here's a video from NASA.)

This river of water -- larger in volume than all the land-based rivers in the world -- delivers millions of tons of warm water a minute to an endpoint just south of Greenland and west of the UK, where, as much of the heat from that water is lifted into the atmosphere to blow east and warm Europe, the now-cool and saltiest-sea-water-in-the-world (it loses moisture along with heat) sinks deep down toward the ocean floor to begin its multi-year-long journey back toward the South Pacific.

Because this system is driven by both temperature and the sudden increase in salinity as it loses heat in the North Atlantic, its driving system is called thermohaline (temperature-salt).

The reason London and Amsterdam, at latitudes similar to Calgary and Edmonton, have weather like that of Europe is an Atlantic Ocean current driven by heat and salt.

And because the UK, Germany, the Netherlands, Poland, and all of Northern Europe and Scandinavia are at roughly the same latitudes as the area from central Canada to Alaska, the only thing that keeps them warm enough to sustain rich crop yields (unlike Alaska) is the heat distributed to them from the Great Conveyor Belt/AMOC.

And the main thing that keeps the AMOC moving is the incredible salinity that forms in the North Atlantic as the current gives up both heat and water vapor, (leaving behind the salt) into the soon-to-warm-Europe air with the warmth. Because the strongly saline water is so much denser/heavier than normal seawater, it sinks vigorously toward the deeper parts of the ocean, pulling the rest of the current behind it and helping maintain the AMOC's flow.

Should something begin to inject fresh water into that region, thus diluting the salinity of the AMOC there, it would reduce the density of that water column and thus could shut down the Conveyor Belt. And that would shut off Europe's main heat source.

This is a scenario that most climate scientists -- until this year -- considered a remote possibility, even in the next century.

But it's beginning to happen right now, both in Antarctica and off the coast of Greenland and Western Europe, because of massive glacier melts.

One part of the thermohaline circulation of the AMOC runs around Antarctica. And, because of global warming, Antarctica is shedding hundreds of billions of tons of ice-melt fresh water into the ocean every year -- which is diluting and cooling saltwater and reducing local thermohaline circulation.

As Chris Mooney notes in the 4/3/18 Washington Post ("One Of The Most Worrisome Predictions About Climate Change May Be Coming True"):

"The new research, based on ocean measurements off the coast of East Antarctica, shows that melting Antarctic glaciers are indeed freshening the ocean around them. And this, in turn, is blocking a process in which cold and salty ocean water sinks below the sea surface in winter, forming 'the densest water on the Earth'..."

Meanwhile, the northern part of the Great Conveyor Belt -- which warms Europe -- is also faltering in the North Atlantic, largely as a result of hundreds of billions of tons of cold, fresh water from Greenland glacier-melt, caused by global warming, pouring into it every few minutes.

https://www.opednews.com/articles/2/We-May-Be-on-the-Verge-of-by-Thom-Hartmann-Climate-Change_Disaster_Famine_Water-180428-225.html

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deepspace 6 weeks 1 day ago
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OpEdNews - 4/28/2018 - from Alternet

"We May Be on the Verge of a Human-Made Climate Disaster.

Is Europe about to experience famine?"

By Thom Hartmann:

New research from University College London and the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution ("Anomalously Weak Labrador Sea Convection and Atlantic Overturning") found that the hiccups in the Great Conveyor Belt began around the time of the Industrial Revolution, when we -- for the first time in millions of years of human evolution -- started spewing billions of tons of fossil-fuel-derived carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. The Great Conveyor Belt has been deteriorating ever since, and the speed of its disintegration is now alarming observers worldwide.

Scientists are concerned that we may even be close to a tipping point, where this river of warm, salty water could change or collapse rapidly and with little warning -- a change that probably would take tens of thousands of years to undo or reset.

As Dr. Michael Mann, one of the world's most respected climate scientists and the founder of the "hockey stick" that Al Gore popularized, told me on my radio/TV program April 24th:

"This is a potential tipping point in the climate system, which is to say it could happen very abruptly once it starts to happen. The danger is that we've already seen a substantial slowdown in this ocean circulation pattern, [and that] suggests the possibility that we could be right up against that tipping point where it essentially just shuts down."

Mann added that until the recent research came in, pretty much everybody thought we had 100 years or so before we needed to begin to even seriously consider this potentially catastrophic scenario:

"If you talked with climate modelers even 5 or 6 years ago, they would have told you that this scenario isn't likely to play out for at least another century or so. ... So something that we didn't expect to happen for the better part of a century is happening already."

And lest Americans think this will only be a European problem, shutting down the AMOC/Gulf Stream, which warms the American northeast, would also have a catastrophic impact on that region of the United States and Canada.

As NASA's scientists note on one of the few climate-change web pages the Trumpies haven't yet removed:

"Without the vast heat that these ocean currents deliver -- comparable to the power generation of a million nuclear power plants--Europe's average temperature would likely drop 5 to 10 degrees C (9 to 18 degrees F), and parts of eastern North America would be chilled somewhat less. Such a dip in temperature would be similar to global average temperatures toward the end of the last ice age roughly 20,000 years ago."

Compare that to the damage a mere 1 degrees C drop in the 1816 Year Without a Summer caused to both Europe and the eastern part of North America in 1816. Civilization -- and billions of people -- probably would simply no longer survive as we know it.

Like a long-term smoker who notices that he's beginning to cough up blood, it's long past the time we should have done something substantial and worldwide to wean off our addiction to fossil fuels. And as Republican politicians nationwide, supported in part by the Koch brothers' mind-boggling fossil-fuel fortune, continue to deny even the basic science of climate change, things are deteriorating daily.

Given the stakes -- the survival of much of the western world, and "civilization" as we know it -- we all must step up and become political activists.

Note to Republicans and GOP donors: It's no longer just your children and grandchildren whose lives you're ruining in a distant future when you think you'll be dead. If this happens as soon as it looks like it may, it will be you and your friends, too.

https://www.opednews.com/articles/3/We-May-Be-on-the-Verge-of-by-Thom-Hartmann-Climate-Change_Disaster_Famine_Water-180428-225.html

The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018

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