@Zero G, see hanging out in the chat room and abandoning us here on the blog isn't such a great idea. I won the book on an off hand comment about cats, CATS my friend. Of course that just lends credence to my theory that they are indeed the Superior Race on Planet Earth. Mittens the Magnificent will take over soon, after a nap in the sun and a nice stretch.
Heck at least if you had posted that Obama is a war criminal comment here, at least Gerald would have been your best friend, and probably would have found a few other supporters. On the other hand, sounds like you ruffled the feathers of the chat room, good on ya for that, can't let them live in an echo chamber forever ;-)
This morning it occurred to me that maybe a good way of countering a lot of the Republican't candidate ads would be to use reverse psychology. Such as, "I have done exhaustive research and I can safely say I can find no evidence that my opponent is an idiot." or "Contrary to the opinion of many there is no provable direct relationship between my opponent and the massive amounts of corporate money."
Does anyone here think I have something, or do you believe in moon monkeys from mars?
Please reply yes or no to the first part of the question only. ;-)
Why are small businesses even a part of the Chamber of Commerce? Why don't they get a clue and not support an organization that puts the wants of the largest companies over their own good? They're like regular people who support the GOP even though the GOP only supports the wealthy at the expense of everyone else.
Every step of the way, I remember that Salon's Glenn Greenwald joined Jonathan Turley in endorsing Citizens United. Moreover, Greenwald went much further. He sneered at his readers, whose comments were nearly 100% negative on his article. He said they disagreed with even the dissenting votes, which he interpreted as accepting both the personhood of corporations and the speech quality of spending money. He then added that it was not important if money was corrupting or even destroying electoral democracy - because he was, unlike his readers, a "First Amendment absolutist." However, he hypocritically does not endorse rolling back the various laws against campaigning within 100 feet of a polling place on Election Day. Those laws clearly limit all forms of speech - talking, pamphleting, you name it - and they're exclusively to protect the integrity of elections. But they're harder to obfuscate about.
Greenwald also said the Citzens United case would probably not have much effect on elections - that Salon's readers were hysterical about that, in addition to that being a moot issue, since elections are not a right, but spending on them is.
To sum up: his facts were wrong. His prediction was wrong. His argument was dishonest and hypocritical. And people still suck up to him (as they do to Turley). It's not just the Supreme Court we have issues with.
Yesterday on the chatroom I was taken to task for calling Obama a war criminal. SInce the chatroom isn't a good forum for defining terms, I'll post this here, and try to point to this post if so again challenged:
The brutality with which the US government exercises its war of terror is condemned both by the court of international public opinion and by the principles of international law governing human rights. Wars of aggression in Iraq and Afghanistan and the torture of detainees are clearly defined as war crimes by the UN Declaration of Human Rights, the Geneva Conventions, the Convention against Torture and other treaties to which the United States is a signatory. Under the cover of "national security," other countries in the region are being drawn into the on-going wars.
The Principles of International Law, recognized in the Charter of the Nuremberg Tribunal and in the Judgment of the Tribunal, provide no defense for war crimes. Similarly, the Convention Against Torture, which defines torture as a war crime, provides that no exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat or war, internal political instability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of torture.
The prohibition on war crimes is absolute, not relative, meaning that there is no justification for war crimes despite the particular circumstances in their respective countries. U.S. Justice Robert Jackson proclaimed at Nuremberg: “No grievances or policies will justify resort to aggressive war. It is utterly renounced and condemned as an instrument of policy. More @ http://warcriminalswatch.org/
The webpage offers a critique of the change that the Obama administration has thus far wrought.
The real issues aren't given coverage in the media. So when liberals take on real issues of our time, they are convieniently portrayed as fringe out-of-touch wackos.
... was up til 3 last night reading The Halliburton Agenda by Dan Briody (author of The Iron Triangle). Nightmarish reading. KBR, Halliburton subsidiary has a diabolical, criminal, very political, century-long history that travels the globe -- from underground in Libya, to the route of the planned Caspian Sea Pipeline through the Balkans, fond retreat of certain schemers. Couldn't sleep at all after reading that the company that just destroyed one quarter of our nation's coastline and life-source waters was paid a king's ransom in unaccounted for money to drill to the earth's core and sample the magma there --- ! ! ! Now there is a blow-out. Wretched greed, when will thy thrist be quenched? When will you respect the gift of Life and the Planet we all live together on? We Americans are simply pawns. Will our few remaining trustworthy leaders not stop the lock-step march of the Endless War & Hate machine in time?
What you are clueless about is this......
The Reich-Wingers that Louise Hartmann is taling about are doing and saying DESPICABLE actions/thoughts.
However, Liberals almost never do or say despicable things.
The actions of Bush/Cheney and their administration were HORRID, while the actions of the Obama Administration are much milder and decent (though far from perfect).
I suspect that you are a "shill". If not, then you need to do some serious soul-searching and become politically educated and more decent in what you believe.
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Those douche baggers are showered with ignorance. But, what do you expect when schools and teachers are not supported by communities any longer and when most of those tea partiers watch Faux News?
Why are liberal-minded people surprised that the country is moving farther and farther to the right? Information (and by consequence, truth) is a commodity. He who controls the commodity, controls the "truth."
Premise #1: Nearly all of the information we use to form our opinions about public policy comes to us via some form of news media (radio, internet, television). This information has already been filtered, processed, and packaged. Essentially, you get someone else's interpretation of a "news" event.
Premise #2: Nearly every forum for distributing information runs with the same goal in mind: to make a profit (even this one). Thus, money impacts (directly or indirectly) the presentation of news. The larger the news outlet, the greater the impact of financial pressures.
Conclusion: The ultimate source of information is whomever is paying the bills.
We live in a highly caffeinated, internet-speed society. Most people don't want to spend two hours a day investigating the ultimate veracity of "news." If you package something the right way to the right people, they will accept it.
That's how the conservative right can persuade people--the same people who should logically be their sworn enemies--that they actually represent them. Why do you think corporations like Verizon and Proctor & Gamble spend BILLIONS of dollars a year on advertising? Because it's effective!!
Dear Maxrot: you wrote: " what other creature on this planet can live for free in shelters humans build, be fed routinely and not even bother to give anything back unless they feel like it, not only that, but they're so convinced of their own superiority, they clean themselves to make sure the job is done right."
The tea bagger leaders are actually admirers of nazis and other fascist regime, and by labeling Obama and his corporate and banker friendly administration as such only further confuses the "patriots" from seeing the fact that they are the demise of America due to their gullibility.
@harry, who said I was joking, what other creature on this planet can live for free in shelters humans build, be fed routinely and not even bother to give anything back unless they feel like it, not only that, but they're so convinced of their own superiority, they clean themselves to make sure the job is done right.
By the way, congrats on being able to lick you're hot spots, not everyone is lucky (or determined) enough to be so flexible. ;-P
Global control of meat production has just gotten more consolidated. JBS S.A. (The world's largest meat produder) has acquired Smithfield Food's Beef production arm further consolidating the choices of beef in the world. Smithfield was happy to get rid of that arm because they cannot make as much money on the beef as they can chicken and pork. Here is a quote from Smithfield's CEO from the Smithfield website ( "We are pleased that Smithfield Foods is able to benefit our shareholders through this transaction by using the ultimate net proceeds of approximately $750 million to reduce leverage and invest capital in higher return businesses," said C. Larry Pope, president and chief executive officer."
Watch out pork and poultry producers of america, we are basically going to have one company owning the means of production to the "commercially" available pork and poultry. We need anti-trust lawsuits and have to break up this market. We bitch about health care, but Corporate Agribusiness takes the cake as far as the worst possible industries ever.
All I can say is buy-local and shift the balance in your area, but WE as a small subset who only purchase local sustainable meat is not large enough to tip the balance...we need governmental break ups of these companies and the business in general.
@Zero G, see hanging out in the chat room and abandoning us here on the blog isn't such a great idea. I won the book on an off hand comment about cats, CATS my friend. Of course that just lends credence to my theory that they are indeed the Superior Race on Planet Earth. Mittens the Magnificent will take over soon, after a nap in the sun and a nice stretch.
Heck at least if you had posted that Obama is a war criminal comment here, at least Gerald would have been your best friend, and probably would have found a few other supporters. On the other hand, sounds like you ruffled the feathers of the chat room, good on ya for that, can't let them live in an echo chamber forever ;-)
N
This morning it occurred to me that maybe a good way of countering a lot of the Republican't candidate ads would be to use reverse psychology. Such as, "I have done exhaustive research and I can safely say I can find no evidence that my opponent is an idiot." or "Contrary to the opinion of many there is no provable direct relationship between my opponent and the massive amounts of corporate money."
Does anyone here think I have something, or do you believe in moon monkeys from mars?
Please reply yes or no to the first part of the question only. ;-)
N
Why are small businesses even a part of the Chamber of Commerce? Why don't they get a clue and not support an organization that puts the wants of the largest companies over their own good? They're like regular people who support the GOP even though the GOP only supports the wealthy at the expense of everyone else.
Every step of the way, I remember that Salon's Glenn Greenwald joined Jonathan Turley in endorsing Citizens United. Moreover, Greenwald went much further. He sneered at his readers, whose comments were nearly 100% negative on his article. He said they disagreed with even the dissenting votes, which he interpreted as accepting both the personhood of corporations and the speech quality of spending money. He then added that it was not important if money was corrupting or even destroying electoral democracy - because he was, unlike his readers, a "First Amendment absolutist." However, he hypocritically does not endorse rolling back the various laws against campaigning within 100 feet of a polling place on Election Day. Those laws clearly limit all forms of speech - talking, pamphleting, you name it - and they're exclusively to protect the integrity of elections. But they're harder to obfuscate about.
Greenwald also said the Citzens United case would probably not have much effect on elections - that Salon's readers were hysterical about that, in addition to that being a moot issue, since elections are not a right, but spending on them is.
To sum up: his facts were wrong. His prediction was wrong. His argument was dishonest and hypocritical. And people still suck up to him (as they do to Turley). It's not just the Supreme Court we have issues with.
Yesterday on the chatroom I was taken to task for calling Obama a war criminal. SInce the chatroom isn't a good forum for defining terms, I'll post this here, and try to point to this post if so again challenged:
US War Crimes, Crimes Against Humanity and “Change”
The brutality with which the US government exercises its war of terror is condemned both by the court of international public opinion and by the principles of international law governing human rights. Wars of aggression in Iraq and Afghanistan and the torture of detainees are clearly defined as war crimes by the UN Declaration of Human Rights, the Geneva Conventions, the Convention against Torture and other treaties to which the United States is a signatory. Under the cover of "national security," other countries in the region are being drawn into the on-going wars.
The Principles of International Law, recognized in the Charter of the Nuremberg Tribunal and in the Judgment of the Tribunal, provide no defense for war crimes. Similarly, the Convention Against Torture, which defines torture as a war crime, provides that no exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat or war, internal political instability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of torture.
The prohibition on war crimes is absolute, not relative, meaning that there is no justification for war crimes despite the particular circumstances in their respective countries. U.S. Justice Robert Jackson proclaimed at Nuremberg: “No grievances or policies will justify resort to aggressive war. It is utterly renounced and condemned as an instrument of policy. More @ http://warcriminalswatch.org/
The webpage offers a critique of the change that the Obama administration has thus far wrought.
Congrats to Nils - Maxrot for member of the day, yesterday!
The real issues aren't given coverage in the media. So when liberals take on real issues of our time, they are convieniently portrayed as fringe out-of-touch wackos.
... was up til 3 last night reading The Halliburton Agenda by Dan Briody (author of The Iron Triangle).
Nightmarish reading. KBR, Halliburton subsidiary has a diabolical, criminal, very political, century-long history that travels the globe -- from underground in Libya, to the route of the planned Caspian Sea Pipeline through the Balkans, fond retreat of certain schemers. Couldn't sleep at all after reading that the company that just destroyed one quarter of our nation's coastline and life-source waters was paid a king's ransom in unaccounted for money to drill to the earth's core and sample the magma there --- ! ! ! Now there is a blow-out. Wretched greed, when will thy thrist be quenched? When will you respect the gift of Life and the Planet we all live together on? We Americans are simply pawns. Will our few remaining trustworthy leaders not stop the lock-step march of the Endless War & Hate machine in time?
What you are clueless about is this......
The Reich-Wingers that Louise Hartmann is taling about are doing and saying DESPICABLE actions/thoughts.
However, Liberals almost never do or say despicable things.
The actions of Bush/Cheney and their administration were HORRID, while the actions of the Obama Administration are much milder and decent (though far from perfect).
I suspect that you are a "shill". If not, then you need to do some serious soul-searching and become politically educated and more decent in what you believe.
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Ditto!!! Well stated. Greed has no conscience.
Those douche baggers are showered with ignorance. But, what do you expect when schools and teachers are not supported by communities any longer and when most of those tea partiers watch Faux News?
Why are liberal-minded people surprised that the country is moving farther and farther to the right? Information (and by consequence, truth) is a commodity. He who controls the commodity, controls the "truth."
Premise #1: Nearly all of the information we use to form our opinions about public policy comes to us via some form of news media (radio, internet, television). This information has already been filtered, processed, and packaged. Essentially, you get someone else's interpretation of a "news" event.
Premise #2: Nearly every forum for distributing information runs with the same goal in mind: to make a profit (even this one). Thus, money impacts (directly or indirectly) the presentation of news. The larger the news outlet, the greater the impact of financial pressures.
Conclusion: The ultimate source of information is whomever is paying the bills.
We live in a highly caffeinated, internet-speed society. Most people don't want to spend two hours a day investigating the ultimate veracity of "news." If you package something the right way to the right people, they will accept it.
That's how the conservative right can persuade people--the same people who should logically be their sworn enemies--that they actually represent them. Why do you think corporations like Verizon and Proctor & Gamble spend BILLIONS of dollars a year on advertising? Because it's effective!!
@harry, yeah except for the "clean themselves to make sure the job is done right" part. Some of them you gotta hose down monthly.
N
Dear Maxrot: you wrote: " what other creature on this planet can live for free in shelters humans build, be fed routinely and not even bother to give anything back unless they feel like it, not only that, but they're so convinced of their own superiority, they clean themselves to make sure the job is done right."
-teenagers?
The tea bagger leaders are actually admirers of nazis and other fascist regime, and by labeling Obama and his corporate and banker friendly administration as such only further confuses the "patriots" from seeing the fact that they are the demise of America due to their gullibility.
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@harry, who said I was joking, what other creature on this planet can live for free in shelters humans build, be fed routinely and not even bother to give anything back unless they feel like it, not only that, but they're so convinced of their own superiority, they clean themselves to make sure the job is done right.
By the way, congrats on being able to lick you're hot spots, not everyone is lucky (or determined) enough to be so flexible. ;-P
N
now i got a hairball....
Maxrot wins a book over a cat joke? I'm licking my hot spots now.
Global control of meat production has just gotten more consolidated. JBS S.A. (The world's largest meat produder) has acquired Smithfield Food's Beef production arm further consolidating the choices of beef in the world. Smithfield was happy to get rid of that arm because they cannot make as much money on the beef as they can chicken and pork. Here is a quote from Smithfield's CEO from the Smithfield website ( "We are pleased that Smithfield Foods is able to benefit our shareholders through this transaction by using the ultimate net proceeds of approximately $750 million to reduce leverage and invest capital in higher return businesses," said C. Larry Pope, president and chief executive officer."
Watch out pork and poultry producers of america, we are basically going to have one company owning the means of production to the "commercially" available pork and poultry. We need anti-trust lawsuits and have to break up this market. We bitch about health care, but Corporate Agribusiness takes the cake as far as the worst possible industries ever.
All I can say is buy-local and shift the balance in your area, but WE as a small subset who only purchase local sustainable meat is not large enough to tip the balance...we need governmental break ups of these companies and the business in general.
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Been calling it "Trickle On" economics for years, but would like to make one change to your meme.
Trickle On economics creates "peed ons".