Thanks, Pal- I was trying to show the connection, without seeming too intellectually elite or too educated, or even too old, between those who were thwarted in their plan to sterilize and purify society and the onslaught of their fascist regime upon the psyches of our genetic predecessors. They were the banking propellers of Hitler's whole career and all directed the titan Austrian Credit Bank when other Austrian Banks failed, quickly allowing the change in power. Hitler's Eugenics came from those parties who financed him- it's what they believed back when Hitler was still a baby.
We in our generation have these traumas already working on us according to the theory of epigenetics. WE were dragged into these traumas unwillingly by perps. Some of us heard about War II and The Depression from parents or family members, but not very much. When I get to know someone, I always ask then what they heard from their parents about the past and it is astounding how much people have held back because they want to forget it. Many parents who were Holocaust survivors did not talk about it to their children. But the genetic memory is passed on. This is WHY we are wandering about at least half-bummed out- the more depressed we are the less energy we have to fight. And we have less money trying to keep up with the diseases which may be turned on by epigenetics.
We have to Heal Ourselves before we can change the world.
Here is another important eye-opening book: Feeble Minded in Our Midst by Scott Noll.
Michael Brown truly was a big young man, an immature young man that was unarmed. What ever happen to less than deadly force procedures! I’m sure that this officer had a nightstick or even Mace, deadly force did not have to be used. Backup could have been there within a few minutes. We must take a hard look on the training procedures of our law enforcement. Things are definitely getting out of control. State and local governments should start policing the police force, by means of a two or a four-year college/university degree on law and law enforcement before entering a police academy. With a psychological profile evaluation that will prevent psychopaths from becoming law enforcement members.
I am listening to the rebroadcaste of your show right now and I am being reminded of the stories my mother told me about working with urban children in St. Louis through the work the churches were doing, such as caravaning to suburban churches during the late 40s.
The housing these families were subjected to was so bad that she joined a work group that went in to help patch holes in the walls of the homes people were renting. Its no wonder they were thrilled with the possibility of living in public housing, even though it soon became a night mare for similar reasons of mismanagemnt. One reason my mother remembers this so well is that one result of her experience was coming down with hepatatitus after one of her visits.
These college age young people began helping the families in trapped in this housing organize to make the landloards repair the property. They soon descovered that no one was responsible becuase it was all owned by blind trust. When they finally got to the bottom of the blind trust issue they discovered that many of these rentals were owned by the local Cahtolic church. Because over the years their parisoners had left thier property to these large churches which didn't know how to manage things. A bit of a local scandal.
A number of the young people she met at that time and still keeps in touch with went on after that experience to join the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and march with MLK. I can't help but wonder what they are thinking now, understanding the history this region has with both racism and poverty.
It is difficult for most listeners to understand that this barn full of straw has a long history which goes back many generations. Every once in awhile someone acidentally drops some cinders on a pile of straw. I am impressed that young people are coming from as far away as California to join this community. That means we have straw tucked away in corners all over the country.
What a world of hurt this counry would be in right now if we did not have someone of the charactuer of President Obama in the white house. I can only pray that the Dept. of Justice gets this right. That does not mean that there is not plenty more to do and rethink about the system.
I think white people naively assume that they are safe around law enforcement. As a woman I think every encounter I have had with law enforcement is fraut with potential dangers. I have had some close calls when in the wrong place at the wrong time while the police were under similar time packed pressure and stress to make the right decision. Just becase I am white, I have no misunderstandings about this. It makes me anxious for the young people I work with.
Thank you for having the courage to provide the space needed for dialogue.
In the righties' realm of unreality, black is white, down is up and freedom is "tyranny". They just want to be free to keep screwing the rest of us with impunity. - AIW
Tarheels, you overlook the fact that this kid in Ferguson was confronted by the police officer for jaywalking. The policeman knew nothing about any alleged cigar heist.
Regardless of that, last time I checked, neither jaywalking nor shoplifting were crimes serious enough to warrant the death penalty.
But that's American justice for ya! Trash the U.S. - or world - economy and skate free; steal a $50 box of cigars and spend years in the slammer... or die, without charge or trial. Beam me up! - AIW
Edwin Black has written many books, one of them being- "War on the Weak: Eugenics and America's Campaign to Create a Master Race". And Hitler marveled at the whole idea which set the underpinnings of his own Eugenics program.
James Bond and additionally Ian Fleming ended up being families. Fleming gotten the name for his temperament belonging to the author, as their bird book she or he liked. Actually There's no doubt that you'll find connections between all kinds of things, however it is not every connection in fact matters.
One fundamental fraud that the righties perpetrate is the assertion that the democratic government of the United States is tyranny when it's government and its protections of the weak from the strong prevent any partiality from dominating the society. It is not government they oppose but democracy. They object to and seek to remove the democratic protections and safeguards that prevent them from dominating the society unimpeded and effecting their own tyranny that is privatized, small government.
Another, that dovetails with the first, is that "government social programs take away people's freedom" when the opposite is true. Government programs to help people, e.g., that make healthcare, housing, education, food, etc. more affordable - if not entirely cost free - give people, quite obviously, more freedom. They abate the privilege of the wealthy and help prevent the wealthy from dominating tyrannically by "redistributing freedom" more equally to all, which is what righties really object to about democratic government.
Righties don't want democratic government because they, as the strong, don't want to be prevented from abusing, exploiting and dominating the common people, the weak, at will. Like they told you in school, democratic government makes us all free.
Mark, I really appreciate these last three posts of yours. Excellent points!
This blog has never bored me, nor am I put off by occasional spurts of profanity, given the spirit from which it comes. Sorry Leighmf. I plead guilty to some of that profanity, but with no apologies. We live in profane times.
I have little patience for language prudes. Anyone who dares to chastise me for my language is in for an earful. Like it or not, cussing has its place in the repertoire of human expression. I will not tolerate these obnoxious, sanctimonious control freaks dictating to the rest of us what is and is not acceptable, and frankly, I don't give a rat's ass if children are present. If they don't like it they can leave. Frankly, it irritates me that language used on the air is so heavily restricted, just to accomodate these prudes. It's just a power trip, is all.
Because the Koch brothers are the disgusting parasites that they are, I am not put off by someone calling them the "Cock brothers". And I agree with John Best about libertarians; they are clueless assholes.
We're all entitled to our opinions, Leighmf, and that includes you. I think you've contributed some interesting posts and would hate to see you go. But don't expect anyone to change their behavior here, or modify their choice of language to suit you. - AIW
You know, I think this exodus of the "880 liberals", or what, from our blog represents the "wine and cheese", bourgie elite lefties turning their collective nose up at us working class, hard-scrabble, coarse, common, vulgar, street fighting lefties with all our profanity.
They, blind to their own Ivy League class privilege, think they're going to do everything politely. Their main priority is to not upset the cocktail party.
I think we're better off without them and their social and intellectual elitism. They are a great impediment to movement building and cause us to lose the blue collar worker with their missionary attitude to "civilize the savages" of the lower classes and to tell the workers what they are to do and want.
Leighmf, I question the validity of your assertion. Some "intolerance" - for lack of better word - on an opinionated blog is to be expected and, I think, unavoidable and lefties, so subject to great intolerance everywhere else, can be forgiven for being a little protective and posessive of their little space.
That said, intolerance is not good, contrary to our ostensible values and doesn't serve us well, however, I think the hostility toward conservative posters comes when the lefty home team thinks they are not being honest. Some are obvious, even admitted, shills, others, when they clearly depart from honesty, are highly suspicious. Nevertheless, it may be necessary to be patient with those as well but it gets more than tiresome with some who keep coming at you with the same talking points or blatant lies repeated ad nauseum no matter how much you take pains to inform them or show the fallacies in their talking points.
There is, after all, nothing wrong with a haven for lefties where they can unload and vent. Lord knows, there are more than enough such spaces for righties and prudery about profanity isn't tolerance either.
I don't agree that this blog has become in any way irrelevant. The shills, who themselves can be quite profane, still keep coming - though some may've given up.
I also question your assertion that Thom doesn't write this blog (anyway, if that is true that's a relatively recent development), he sure does read it. He often says so and often repeats language from posted comments almost verbatim on the air.
Anyone who wants to comment on an openly self declared opinionated blog contradicting the the openly self declared opinion should expect to be entering a hornets' nest. It's not for the milque toasty. Not, mind you, that they should encounter "intolerance", as it were, but they should know they're likely going to have to fight for their position and withstand some severe challenge to it.
Chuckle8- Well, I ended my today's post with my usual statement about Reaganomics- our problems began with the people who put him in government, and their predecessors and their predecessors.
For instance, there is much harping on banksters, and there is Ring of Fire, but who is actually getting busted?
If you read closely, you'll see I was speaking of the Blog, not the Bloggers when I said it was boring. Everyday my e-mail is flooded with these same headliners from politicians wanting money and various groups wanting a petition signed. Even if it has to be the same old news, I just long for a different recipe. The title " Stop Complaining About Big Government and Embrace It" just threw me over the edge. I don't complain about big government, and I don't like being ordered around in a headline.
I'm afraid I was absent for the Sven and Chi Matt era. I got to a point I couldn't stand anymore name-calling and foul language. Plus in the Community Blog some vicious things were done.
Avoid Stress is the #1 Strategy to stay healthy. Health comes first in my book. And I do get upset to hear people arguing, swearing, calling names in real life, being nasty. It makes me feel ill. I have found in this age of self-publishing that I am just as disturbed by seeing these things on paper.
Facebook works better for filtering and creating a solid discussion group and communicating with graphics, I think.
So the police should not have Glocks and automatic rifles but should carry snub nosed 5 shot .38's and .12 guage shotguns. Meanwhile the bad guys have uzi's and AK-47's!
lets go back and review the Bank of America robbery in 1997. The bank robbers had machine guns with large capacity magazines and body armor . Severla police officers were shot and the police had to go to the gunstore down the street and borrow semi auto M16's because the had Glocks , 38's and shot guns.
The North Hollywood shootout was an armed confrontation between two heavily armed and armored bank robbers and officers of the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) in the North Hollywood district of Los Angeles on February 28, 1997. Both robbers were killed, eleven police officers and seven civilians were injured, and numerous vehicles and other property were damaged or destroyed by the nearly 2,000 rounds of ammunition fired by the robbers and police.
At 9:17 AM, Larry Phillips, Jr. and Emil Mătăsăreanu entered and robbed the North Hollywood Bank of America branch. Phillips and Mătăsăreanu were confronted by LAPD officers when they exited the bank and a shootout between the officers and robbers ensued. The two robbers attempted to flee the scene, Phillips on foot and Mătăsăreanu in their getaway vehicle, while continuing to engage the officers. The shootout continued onto a residential street adjacent to the bank until Phillips was mortally wounded, including by a self-inflicted gunshot wound; Mătăsăreanu was killed by officers three blocks away. Phillips and Mătăsăreanu are believed to have robbed at least two other banks using virtually identical methods by taking control of the entire bank and firing automatic weapons chambered in intermediate cartridges for control and entry past 'bullet-proof' security doors, and are possible suspects in two armored vehicle robberies.
Local patrol officers at the time were typically armed with their standard issue 9 mm or .38 Special pistols, with some having a 12-gauge shotgun available in their cars. Phillips and Mătăsăreanu carried illegally modified fully automatic Norinco Type 56 S-1s, a Bushmaster XM15 Dissipator, and a HK-91 rifle with high capacity drum magazines and ammunition capable of penetrating vehicles and police Kevlar vests. The bank robbers wore body armor which successfully deflected bullets and shotgun shells fired by the responding patrolmen. SWAT eventually arrived bearing sufficient firepower, and they commandeered an armored truck to evacuate the wounded. Several officers also appropriated AR-15 rifles from a nearby firearms dealer. The incident sparked debate on the need for patrol officers to upgrade their capabilities in similar situations in the future.
Due to the large number of injuries, rounds fired, weapons used, and overall length of the shootout, it is regarded as one of the longest and bloodiest events in American police history.
I have already written extensively on James Bond, the Bird Book, The SAINT, and Flemings galore. I studied the Who's Who of Cryptology and American and Foreign Corporations more than 20 years. If I were you, I'd check the 1961 picture of James Bond, author, who was born in 1900, paying special attention to the hair.
I hate to put you through one of my tedious timelines, Doctor, but it is necessary to find the Roots of Evil. You don't have to be smart to be bad. But you do have to be smart to put the puzzle together. I will spare you many years of details, but don't think I don't have them.
If we are worried about our great-grandchildren, we should first understand what has been done to us since our great-grandparents time.
Starting with the Civil War, Robert Fleming made a fortune selling jute for sandbags to both sides. He obtained a jute monopoly in the U.S. and growing Cannabis sativa was forbidden as part of his exclusive on jute.
He assembled Scottish Widow's pensions into a trust fund called SAINT, Scottish American Investment Trust and brought it to the US to team up with Harriman and Krupp Steel to gain complete control of railways worldwide.
1867
Dumb old Rockefeller, Andrews & Flagler organized in Cleveland
1868
1/1/1868 Wells Fargo Bank Iowa, National Association 666 Walnut Street Des Moines,IA 50309 FDIC Certificate #: 4448 Date Established: 1/1/1868
10/10/1868 First mortgage of the South Carolina Railroad; subsequently bankrupt and foreclosed
The Corporation of foreign bondholders exchanged patents which forever united us to Krupp Steel and the SAINT (see Moody's Manual of Insurance and Banking); attendees included Harriman, Krupp, and U.S. Senators and Judges who were grantees of free Union Pacific RR stock
1869
Credit Mobilier formed ; Weiner Bank, Vienna
1870
Influential stockholders of Union Pacific RR organized the construction company Crédit Mobilier of America, and under Oakes Ames, a U.S. Representative, made contracts with themselves which depleted the congressional grants and left the railway heavily in debt.
1889
Standard Oil was formerly organized by Rockefeller, Flagler et al. in 1889 - a one hundred year mortgage bond extended their debt to 1989 when Norfolk Southern Corporation had one big victorious merger.
1901
After bankrupting for the second time and stripping off common stockholders once again, the Norfolk and Western Ry was re-organized and headed by Michael Valentine Fleming, father of Ian. The Norfolk & Western merged into Norfolk Southern.
Standard Oil founded the Natural Gas Trust.
1907-1910
Rockefeller, Harriman, et al. proposed the Eugenics Society, HQ San Francisco
Standard established a regional affiliate, Republic Oil in 1907. Republic Corp was later a film entity taken over by Krupp after he was released from prison.
1910- German American Trust Company formed with Straus Bros. whose correspondent was Commercial Bank of Switzerland, aka UBS
1935
Dr. Alexis Carrel, a nobel prize winner, staff of the Rockefeller Institute, Man the Unknown proposed gas euthanasia of criminals and the insane
"Lord Moynihan, president of the Royal College of Surgeons, founded the Euthanasia Society"
Well, I really have to move on here, but the crux of it all is Standard Oil was never really disssolved in 1911. Harriman acquired then 3/20/1911 Harriman National Bank; originally Night & Day Bank 1906; acquired Liberty National Bank & Trust Company 4/8/1932;
Standard Oil was not dissolved but has become British Petroleum, a Royalist plan all along. Those dumb Royals too. In exchange, our millionaire senate enjoys perpetually benefits of Norfolk Southern Corporation along with many royalties from BLM and pilfered native American assets. That pact was made long ago, and those who benefit are sworn to secrecy- to never turn in a "brother" who commits a crime, even murder.
That is the crap we are fighting against and until the public has a long enough attention span to get a grip on the truth and stop acting like the world began with Reagan, the sheisters will always be hundreds of years ahead of us with their gold mortgage bonds and pyramided leases pooled in one bif fat US REIT. No lie.
A NO option is needed. I have no problem with law emforcment or how the law is applied. Michael Brown is 6'5" weighs about 300 he used his large size to push a 4'5" Indian guy that weighed maybe 125 pounds. Mr. Brown had a guilty conscience. Yes the police officer didn't know but Michael didn't know that. All he had to do was comply with getting out of the road. He chose to fight instead until he was shot.
The police don't frighten me and I'm African American. Since I obey the law, I don't sell or use drugs, drive drunk, steal, kill or rob people I have nothing to fear from the all white police force in my town.
Ferguson households had incomes below the federal poverty line of $23,492 in 2012.
That must be nice as a disabled veteran since it was a service related disability (I lost my right leg and right eye due to an IED). Thanks to Mitch "Moneybags " McConnell disabled vets can't draw veterans benfits checks at the same time if they are drawing SSI. I currently get $721 a month I had to sell my 1977 GMC truck since I could no longer drive a stick or afford the insurance. My point is that $721 is $8,652 yearly. The moral of the story is I'm poor and way below the poverty line. I'm not out stealing $50 box of cigars and getting upset because when the police find out they arrest the bad guys.
If you want to read two Supreme Court decisions.
Terry v Ohio (1968) -This case allows an officer to conduct a stop of a person or vehicle if there is reasonable suspicion that a crime is being committed, has been, or is about to be committed.
Pennsylvania v Mimms (1977)- this US Supreme Court ruling allows officers to order the driver and occupant out of the vehicle for safety reasons. " the safety of the officer greatly outweighs the inconvenience to the occupants of the vehicle."
Before I lost my leg I was a deputy sheriff and I worked in the military police. Something I cannot do with one leg and a glass eye.
An Alternative to Capitalism (since we cannot legislate morality)
Several decades ago, Margaret Thatcher claimed: "There is no alternative". She was referring to capitalism. Today, this negative attitude still persists.
I would like to offer an alternative to capitalism for the American people to consider. Please click on the following link. It will take you to my essay titled: "Home of the Brave?" which was published in the OPEDNEWS:
leighmf -- Thanks for coming back and stating some of the problems with the blog. It seems to me the biggest problem you described is the personal attacks on the blog. I hope the bloggers here listen.
I do not know how you can call the discussions with Sven on the 2013 IPCC boring. I do not see how you can call the discussions with Chicago Matt boring. Of course, Chi Matt almost left because of personal attacks.
Also, it is hard not to be boring when Thom has presented what I think is a straightforward solution to all the problems. It becomes boring when you say over and over again to roll back Reaganomics. I think it needs to be said over and over again.
Uh...James Bond and Ian Fleming were different people. Fleming got the name for his character from the author, whose bird book he liked. Otherwise I think you can find connections between everything, but not every connection really matters. Your points are also interesting but I doubt if Bush, Rockefeller and the rest are really that smart. Cold blooded opportunists maybe, sometimes (like the Kochs) driven by ideology, but not vast plotters on the scale of an--ahem--James Bond villain.
Likely epigenetics was a known a concept to the Eugenics Society which in 1910 decided to sterilize the poor, epileptics, and those called "mental defectives." The society was heavily supported by Mrs. E.R. Harriman, a Bush ancestor.
It stands to reason that after failing to garner enthusiasm for mass-sterilizations across America, we may as well be subjected to the major stresses of WWI, The Great Depression, WWII, the atom bomb in general, The Korean War, segregation, assassination, the Viet Nam War, and increasing loss of nationally held wealth, such as our education system, national parks, health standards, and the figures said to be our national debt.
These major stresses were perpetrated to depress us and keep us down, like armed Pinkertons holding back a strike line. They facilitated the addictions which made fortunes for men of violence, of the brewers, bottlers, tobacco kings, and opium lords, because we just can't take it. What family has not been damaged through its generations of having to bear addiction, illness, violence, poverty, and destruction none of us want.
"The Old Families" know this well and that is how they maintain control of world wealth. They know the families that stick together rule together. Since they have intermarried to keep money, they are prone to insanity. By breaking up pioneer American families and the businesses and industries they built, and by exploiting native peoples of America and Hawaii, they have again overrun us and tyranny rules.
Nazi science was carefully preserved and brought to America for the Prescott Bush CIA to utilize. This is the place in American history I have found where the idealism of America was completely derailed. It happened in the transition from the OSS to the post-war Central Intelligence Agency of which George H.W. Bush became director in 1976. 1976 was a critical year for those who during the Great Depression were induced to purchase low-yield tax-free government securities. Many of the original investors were deceased by 1976, but the Treasury Notes of 1976 existed for paying estate tax in portfolios nationwide. They were culled out of trusts by lawyers and given to GHW Bush for secret money to move around the country.
I think we've all seen or thought one hand doesn't know what the other is doing in our security agencies, especially now that we have even another secret division of intelligence, Homeland Security. The reason is Bush, Bush, Bush, and before that Harriman, Rockefeller, and Robert Fleming, grandfather of Ian, all in bed thick as fleas with the London Counting Houses-
Ian Fleming could hardly rat out his own family, but he certainly made a lot of things clear in the James Bond Books, supplemented by Birds of the West Indies, 1961, by James Bond.
Not to mention that the Mob is Bank of America. That "Lincoln" companies are the former German American National Bank. Not to mention Berghoff, the famous brewer, was president of this bank in Indiana, and Hitler's Alpine retreat was named "Berghof."
We cannot stop the stress until the original trouble makers are rooted out for their past crimes and history is told aright. The damage they have done has to be defined and rectified, as if our whole nation was a Superfund Site.
There is a difference between complaining and constructive criticism. I never complain. But I do make long term observations and tabulate data in order to present reasonable conclusions.
FYI- Thom Hartmann does not write this blog, Randy Campbell, nr, whatever. You may not realize how many people have been here for years and years and have left and formed a spin-off group of more than 880 liberals and democrats who share the same basic values, who listen to the show, but who cannot stand the PROFANITY (see post #1 above mine), INTOLERANCE, and boredom into which the blog has descended.
Any observer can see how the posts have dwindled to just a few hopeful hangers-on and newcomers, while this blogspot should be the interactive heart of the community.
I have discussed this phenomenon with various persons who were once valuable commenters and contributors to the overall discussion, thus those who get along have moved on.
In the alternate TH Reality, none of us would dare to try and intimidate a poster who has expressed an honest opinion or criticism.
The privilege of having the job writing this blog post I feel demands more research and originality to engage a constructive discussion community. That is my American right to express and a good writer always respects and listens to criticism and suggestion.
The 880 are proof that many a good intellect stay away to avoid hostility and attempted censorship by other members of the TH Community.
I have never listened to Rush Limbaugh in my life, and in fact can't listen to radio at all. I come here because I love and adore Thom and Louise's work as part of a hopeful future.
That still doesn't mean I can't say The Blog is getting Boring.
Truth, Justice, The American Way:
Truth: We Americans have gone on for years and years tolerating unanswered questions about bombings, assassinations, mass terrorism, bombings, and even accepting lies.
My idea is the Whole Truth and Nothing But the Truth- this we should demand from the Treasury, Congress, and our intelligence agencies. Instead, we are given cover stories to hold us till the next violent act against our People.
Justice: Do Justice in the courts and the heavens will open and rain blessings on the earth. This includes fair measures of law enforcement, punishment that fits the crime (i.e. drug possession vs. massive bank or investment fraud), and an end to the Lawyers and Judges Cartel which diverts ill-gotten wealth to Royalists.
The American Way: I think today's Lincoln poster, Hopalong Cassidy, and the Lone Ranger have defined it. The American Way allows all to prosper without interference from corrupt officials, monopolies, hidden trusts, lawyers, syndicates, 400 year old mortgage bonds, and private insurance companies.
Thanks, Pal- I was trying to show the connection, without seeming too intellectually elite or too educated, or even too old, between those who were thwarted in their plan to sterilize and purify society and the onslaught of their fascist regime upon the psyches of our genetic predecessors. They were the banking propellers of Hitler's whole career and all directed the titan Austrian Credit Bank when other Austrian Banks failed, quickly allowing the change in power. Hitler's Eugenics came from those parties who financed him- it's what they believed back when Hitler was still a baby.
We in our generation have these traumas already working on us according to the theory of epigenetics. WE were dragged into these traumas unwillingly by perps. Some of us heard about War II and The Depression from parents or family members, but not very much. When I get to know someone, I always ask then what they heard from their parents about the past and it is astounding how much people have held back because they want to forget it. Many parents who were Holocaust survivors did not talk about it to their children. But the genetic memory is passed on. This is WHY we are wandering about at least half-bummed out- the more depressed we are the less energy we have to fight. And we have less money trying to keep up with the diseases which may be turned on by epigenetics.
We have to Heal Ourselves before we can change the world.
Here is another important eye-opening book: Feeble Minded in Our Midst by Scott Noll.
https://openlibrary.org/works/OL3529808W/Feeble-Minded_in_Our_Midst
Michael Brown truly was a big young man, an immature young man that was unarmed. What ever happen to less than deadly force procedures! I’m sure that this officer had a nightstick or even Mace, deadly force did not have to be used. Backup could have been there within a few minutes. We must take a hard look on the training procedures of our law enforcement. Things are definitely getting out of control. State and local governments should start policing the police force, by means of a two or a four-year college/university degree on law and law enforcement before entering a police academy. With a psychological profile evaluation that will prevent psychopaths from becoming law enforcement members.
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I am listening to the rebroadcaste of your show right now and I am being reminded of the stories my mother told me about working with urban children in St. Louis through the work the churches were doing, such as caravaning to suburban churches during the late 40s.
The housing these families were subjected to was so bad that she joined a work group that went in to help patch holes in the walls of the homes people were renting. Its no wonder they were thrilled with the possibility of living in public housing, even though it soon became a night mare for similar reasons of mismanagemnt. One reason my mother remembers this so well is that one result of her experience was coming down with hepatatitus after one of her visits.
These college age young people began helping the families in trapped in this housing organize to make the landloards repair the property. They soon descovered that no one was responsible becuase it was all owned by blind trust. When they finally got to the bottom of the blind trust issue they discovered that many of these rentals were owned by the local Cahtolic church. Because over the years their parisoners had left thier property to these large churches which didn't know how to manage things. A bit of a local scandal.
A number of the young people she met at that time and still keeps in touch with went on after that experience to join the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and march with MLK. I can't help but wonder what they are thinking now, understanding the history this region has with both racism and poverty.
It is difficult for most listeners to understand that this barn full of straw has a long history which goes back many generations. Every once in awhile someone acidentally drops some cinders on a pile of straw. I am impressed that young people are coming from as far away as California to join this community. That means we have straw tucked away in corners all over the country.
What a world of hurt this counry would be in right now if we did not have someone of the charactuer of President Obama in the white house. I can only pray that the Dept. of Justice gets this right. That does not mean that there is not plenty more to do and rethink about the system.
I think white people naively assume that they are safe around law enforcement. As a woman I think every encounter I have had with law enforcement is fraut with potential dangers. I have had some close calls when in the wrong place at the wrong time while the police were under similar time packed pressure and stress to make the right decision. Just becase I am white, I have no misunderstandings about this. It makes me anxious for the young people I work with.
Thank you for having the courage to provide the space needed for dialogue.
Tarheels, sometimes it is the police who are the "bad guys", if not in the situation you've described.
In the righties' realm of unreality, black is white, down is up and freedom is "tyranny". They just want to be free to keep screwing the rest of us with impunity. - AIW
Tarheels, you overlook the fact that this kid in Ferguson was confronted by the police officer for jaywalking. The policeman knew nothing about any alleged cigar heist.
Regardless of that, last time I checked, neither jaywalking nor shoplifting were crimes serious enough to warrant the death penalty.
But that's American justice for ya! Trash the U.S. - or world - economy and skate free; steal a $50 box of cigars and spend years in the slammer... or die, without charge or trial. Beam me up! - AIW
Edwin Black has written many books, one of them being- "War on the Weak: Eugenics and America's Campaign to Create a Master Race". And Hitler marveled at the whole idea which set the underpinnings of his own Eugenics program.
http://www.waragainsttheweak.com/
James Bond and additionally Ian Fleming ended up being families. Fleming gotten the name for his temperament belonging to the author, as their bird book she or he liked. Actually There's no doubt that you'll find connections between all kinds of things, however it is not every connection in fact matters.
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Damn typos! (SIGH)
One fundamental fraud that the righties perpetrate is the assertion that the democratic government of the United States is tyranny when it's government and its protections of the weak from the strong prevent any partiality from dominating the society. It is not government they oppose but democracy. They object to and seek to remove the democratic protections and safeguards that prevent them from dominating the society unimpeded and effecting their own tyranny that is privatized, small government.
Another, that dovetails with the first, is that "government social programs take away people's freedom" when the opposite is true. Government programs to help people, e.g., that make healthcare, housing, education, food, etc. more affordable - if not entirely cost free - give people, quite obviously, more freedom. They abate the privilege of the wealthy and help prevent the wealthy from dominating tyrannically by "redistributing freedom" more equally to all, which is what righties really object to about democratic government.
Righties don't want democratic government because they, as the strong, don't want to be prevented from abusing, exploiting and dominating the common people, the weak, at will. Like they told you in school, democratic government makes us all free.
Mark, I really appreciate these last three posts of yours. Excellent points!
This blog has never bored me, nor am I put off by occasional spurts of profanity, given the spirit from which it comes. Sorry Leighmf. I plead guilty to some of that profanity, but with no apologies. We live in profane times.
I have little patience for language prudes. Anyone who dares to chastise me for my language is in for an earful. Like it or not, cussing has its place in the repertoire of human expression. I will not tolerate these obnoxious, sanctimonious control freaks dictating to the rest of us what is and is not acceptable, and frankly, I don't give a rat's ass if children are present. If they don't like it they can leave. Frankly, it irritates me that language used on the air is so heavily restricted, just to accomodate these prudes. It's just a power trip, is all.
Because the Koch brothers are the disgusting parasites that they are, I am not put off by someone calling them the "Cock brothers". And I agree with John Best about libertarians; they are clueless assholes.
We're all entitled to our opinions, Leighmf, and that includes you. I think you've contributed some interesting posts and would hate to see you go. But don't expect anyone to change their behavior here, or modify their choice of language to suit you. - AIW
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You know, I think this exodus of the "880 liberals", or what, from our blog represents the "wine and cheese", bourgie elite lefties turning their collective nose up at us working class, hard-scrabble, coarse, common, vulgar, street fighting lefties with all our profanity.
They, blind to their own Ivy League class privilege, think they're going to do everything politely. Their main priority is to not upset the cocktail party.
I think we're better off without them and their social and intellectual elitism. They are a great impediment to movement building and cause us to lose the blue collar worker with their missionary attitude to "civilize the savages" of the lower classes and to tell the workers what they are to do and want.
Leighmf, I question the validity of your assertion. Some "intolerance" - for lack of better word - on an opinionated blog is to be expected and, I think, unavoidable and lefties, so subject to great intolerance everywhere else, can be forgiven for being a little protective and posessive of their little space.
That said, intolerance is not good, contrary to our ostensible values and doesn't serve us well, however, I think the hostility toward conservative posters comes when the lefty home team thinks they are not being honest. Some are obvious, even admitted, shills, others, when they clearly depart from honesty, are highly suspicious. Nevertheless, it may be necessary to be patient with those as well but it gets more than tiresome with some who keep coming at you with the same talking points or blatant lies repeated ad nauseum no matter how much you take pains to inform them or show the fallacies in their talking points.
There is, after all, nothing wrong with a haven for lefties where they can unload and vent. Lord knows, there are more than enough such spaces for righties and prudery about profanity isn't tolerance either.
I don't agree that this blog has become in any way irrelevant. The shills, who themselves can be quite profane, still keep coming - though some may've given up.
I also question your assertion that Thom doesn't write this blog (anyway, if that is true that's a relatively recent development), he sure does read it. He often says so and often repeats language from posted comments almost verbatim on the air.
Anyone who wants to comment on an openly self declared opinionated blog contradicting the the openly self declared opinion should expect to be entering a hornets' nest. It's not for the milque toasty. Not, mind you, that they should encounter "intolerance", as it were, but they should know they're likely going to have to fight for their position and withstand some severe challenge to it.
Chuckle8- Well, I ended my today's post with my usual statement about Reaganomics- our problems began with the people who put him in government, and their predecessors and their predecessors.
For instance, there is much harping on banksters, and there is Ring of Fire, but who is actually getting busted?
If you read closely, you'll see I was speaking of the Blog, not the Bloggers when I said it was boring. Everyday my e-mail is flooded with these same headliners from politicians wanting money and various groups wanting a petition signed. Even if it has to be the same old news, I just long for a different recipe. The title " Stop Complaining About Big Government and Embrace It" just threw me over the edge. I don't complain about big government, and I don't like being ordered around in a headline.
I'm afraid I was absent for the Sven and Chi Matt era. I got to a point I couldn't stand anymore name-calling and foul language. Plus in the Community Blog some vicious things were done.
Avoid Stress is the #1 Strategy to stay healthy. Health comes first in my book. And I do get upset to hear people arguing, swearing, calling names in real life, being nasty. It makes me feel ill. I have found in this age of self-publishing that I am just as disturbed by seeing these things on paper.
Facebook works better for filtering and creating a solid discussion group and communicating with graphics, I think.
So keep chuckling, if you can.
So the police should not have Glocks and automatic rifles but should carry snub nosed 5 shot .38's and .12 guage shotguns. Meanwhile the bad guys have uzi's and AK-47's!
lets go back and review the Bank of America robbery in 1997. The bank robbers had machine guns with large capacity magazines and body armor . Severla police officers were shot and the police had to go to the gunstore down the street and borrow semi auto M16's because the had Glocks , 38's and shot guns.
http://youtu.be/LrlUsaYlKPs
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout
The North Hollywood shootout was an armed confrontation between two heavily armed and armored bank robbers and officers of the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) in the North Hollywood district of Los Angeles on February 28, 1997. Both robbers were killed, eleven police officers and seven civilians were injured, and numerous vehicles and other property were damaged or destroyed by the nearly 2,000 rounds of ammunition fired by the robbers and police.
At 9:17 AM, Larry Phillips, Jr. and Emil Mătăsăreanu entered and robbed the North Hollywood Bank of America branch. Phillips and Mătăsăreanu were confronted by LAPD officers when they exited the bank and a shootout between the officers and robbers ensued. The two robbers attempted to flee the scene, Phillips on foot and Mătăsăreanu in their getaway vehicle, while continuing to engage the officers. The shootout continued onto a residential street adjacent to the bank until Phillips was mortally wounded, including by a self-inflicted gunshot wound; Mătăsăreanu was killed by officers three blocks away. Phillips and Mătăsăreanu are believed to have robbed at least two other banks using virtually identical methods by taking control of the entire bank and firing automatic weapons chambered in intermediate cartridges for control and entry past 'bullet-proof' security doors, and are possible suspects in two armored vehicle robberies.
Local patrol officers at the time were typically armed with their standard issue 9 mm or .38 Special pistols, with some having a 12-gauge shotgun available in their cars. Phillips and Mătăsăreanu carried illegally modified fully automatic Norinco Type 56 S-1s, a Bushmaster XM15 Dissipator, and a HK-91 rifle with high capacity drum magazines and ammunition capable of penetrating vehicles and police Kevlar vests. The bank robbers wore body armor which successfully deflected bullets and shotgun shells fired by the responding patrolmen. SWAT eventually arrived bearing sufficient firepower, and they commandeered an armored truck to evacuate the wounded. Several officers also appropriated AR-15 rifles from a nearby firearms dealer. The incident sparked debate on the need for patrol officers to upgrade their capabilities in similar situations in the future.
Due to the large number of injuries, rounds fired, weapons used, and overall length of the shootout, it is regarded as one of the longest and bloodiest events in American police history.
I have already written extensively on James Bond, the Bird Book, The SAINT, and Flemings galore. I studied the Who's Who of Cryptology and American and Foreign Corporations more than 20 years. If I were you, I'd check the 1961 picture of James Bond, author, who was born in 1900, paying special attention to the hair.
I hate to put you through one of my tedious timelines, Doctor, but it is necessary to find the Roots of Evil. You don't have to be smart to be bad. But you do have to be smart to put the puzzle together. I will spare you many years of details, but don't think I don't have them.
If we are worried about our great-grandchildren, we should first understand what has been done to us since our great-grandparents time.
Starting with the Civil War, Robert Fleming made a fortune selling jute for sandbags to both sides. He obtained a jute monopoly in the U.S. and growing Cannabis sativa was forbidden as part of his exclusive on jute.
He assembled Scottish Widow's pensions into a trust fund called SAINT, Scottish American Investment Trust and brought it to the US to team up with Harriman and Krupp Steel to gain complete control of railways worldwide.
1867
Dumb old Rockefeller, Andrews & Flagler organized in Cleveland
1868
1/1/1868 Wells Fargo Bank Iowa, National Association 666 Walnut Street Des Moines,IA 50309 FDIC Certificate #: 4448 Date Established: 1/1/1868
10/10/1868 First mortgage of the South Carolina Railroad; subsequently bankrupt and foreclosed
The Corporation of foreign bondholders exchanged patents which forever united us to Krupp Steel and the SAINT (see Moody's Manual of Insurance and Banking); attendees included Harriman, Krupp, and U.S. Senators and Judges who were grantees of free Union Pacific RR stock
1869
Credit Mobilier formed ; Weiner Bank, Vienna
1870
Influential stockholders of Union Pacific RR organized the construction company Crédit Mobilier of America, and under Oakes Ames, a U.S. Representative, made contracts with themselves which depleted the congressional grants and left the railway heavily in debt.
1889
Standard Oil was formerly organized by Rockefeller, Flagler et al. in 1889 - a one hundred year mortgage bond extended their debt to 1989 when Norfolk Southern Corporation had one big victorious merger.
1901
After bankrupting for the second time and stripping off common stockholders once again, the Norfolk and Western Ry was re-organized and headed by Michael Valentine Fleming, father of Ian. The Norfolk & Western merged into Norfolk Southern.
Standard Oil founded the Natural Gas Trust.
1907-1910
Rockefeller, Harriman, et al. proposed the Eugenics Society, HQ San Francisco
Standard established a regional affiliate, Republic Oil in 1907. Republic Corp was later a film entity taken over by Krupp after he was released from prison.
1910- German American Trust Company formed with Straus Bros. whose correspondent was Commercial Bank of Switzerland, aka UBS
1935
Dr. Alexis Carrel, a nobel prize winner, staff of the Rockefeller Institute, Man the Unknown proposed gas euthanasia of criminals and the insane
"Lord Moynihan, president of the Royal College of Surgeons, founded the Euthanasia Society"
Well, I really have to move on here, but the crux of it all is Standard Oil was never really disssolved in 1911. Harriman acquired then 3/20/1911 Harriman National Bank; originally Night & Day Bank 1906; acquired Liberty National Bank & Trust Company 4/8/1932;
Standard Oil was not dissolved but has become British Petroleum, a Royalist plan all along. Those dumb Royals too. In exchange, our millionaire senate enjoys perpetually benefits of Norfolk Southern Corporation along with many royalties from BLM and pilfered native American assets. That pact was made long ago, and those who benefit are sworn to secrecy- to never turn in a "brother" who commits a crime, even murder.
That is the crap we are fighting against and until the public has a long enough attention span to get a grip on the truth and stop acting like the world began with Reagan, the sheisters will always be hundreds of years ahead of us with their gold mortgage bonds and pyramided leases pooled in one bif fat US REIT. No lie.
A NO option is needed. I have no problem with law emforcment or how the law is applied. Michael Brown is 6'5" weighs about 300 he used his large size to push a 4'5" Indian guy that weighed maybe 125 pounds. Mr. Brown had a guilty conscience. Yes the police officer didn't know but Michael didn't know that. All he had to do was comply with getting out of the road. He chose to fight instead until he was shot.
The police don't frighten me and I'm African American. Since I obey the law, I don't sell or use drugs, drive drunk, steal, kill or rob people I have nothing to fear from the all white police force in my town.
Ferguson households had incomes below the federal poverty line of $23,492 in 2012.
That must be nice as a disabled veteran since it was a service related disability (I lost my right leg and right eye due to an IED). Thanks to Mitch "Moneybags " McConnell disabled vets can't draw veterans benfits checks at the same time if they are drawing SSI. I currently get $721 a month I had to sell my 1977 GMC truck since I could no longer drive a stick or afford the insurance. My point is that $721 is $8,652 yearly. The moral of the story is I'm poor and way below the poverty line. I'm not out stealing $50 box of cigars and getting upset because when the police find out they arrest the bad guys.
If you want to read two Supreme Court decisions.
Terry v Ohio (1968) -This case allows an officer to conduct a stop of a person or vehicle if there is reasonable suspicion that a crime is being committed, has been, or is about to be committed.
Pennsylvania v Mimms (1977)- this US Supreme Court ruling allows officers to order the driver and occupant out of the vehicle for safety reasons. " the safety of the officer greatly outweighs the inconvenience to the occupants of the vehicle."
Before I lost my leg I was a deputy sheriff and I worked in the military police. Something I cannot do with one leg and a glass eye.
An Alternative to Capitalism (since we cannot legislate morality)
Several decades ago, Margaret Thatcher claimed: "There is no alternative". She was referring to capitalism. Today, this negative attitude still persists.
I would like to offer an alternative to capitalism for the American people to consider. Please click on the following link. It will take you to my essay titled: "Home of the Brave?" which was published in the OPEDNEWS:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/An-Alternative-to-Capitali-by-John-Steinsvold-130326-864.html John Steinsvold
“We have met the enemy and he is us.”Pogo quotation by Walt Kelly.
leighmf -- Thanks for coming back and stating some of the problems with the blog. It seems to me the biggest problem you described is the personal attacks on the blog. I hope the bloggers here listen.
I do not know how you can call the discussions with Sven on the 2013 IPCC boring. I do not see how you can call the discussions with Chicago Matt boring. Of course, Chi Matt almost left because of personal attacks.
Also, it is hard not to be boring when Thom has presented what I think is a straightforward solution to all the problems. It becomes boring when you say over and over again to roll back Reaganomics. I think it needs to be said over and over again.
Uh...James Bond and Ian Fleming were different people. Fleming got the name for his character from the author, whose bird book he liked. Otherwise I think you can find connections between everything, but not every connection really matters. Your points are also interesting but I doubt if Bush, Rockefeller and the rest are really that smart. Cold blooded opportunists maybe, sometimes (like the Kochs) driven by ideology, but not vast plotters on the scale of an--ahem--James Bond villain.
Holy cow!
Likely epigenetics was a known a concept to the Eugenics Society which in 1910 decided to sterilize the poor, epileptics, and those called "mental defectives." The society was heavily supported by Mrs. E.R. Harriman, a Bush ancestor.
It stands to reason that after failing to garner enthusiasm for mass-sterilizations across America, we may as well be subjected to the major stresses of WWI, The Great Depression, WWII, the atom bomb in general, The Korean War, segregation, assassination, the Viet Nam War, and increasing loss of nationally held wealth, such as our education system, national parks, health standards, and the figures said to be our national debt.
These major stresses were perpetrated to depress us and keep us down, like armed Pinkertons holding back a strike line. They facilitated the addictions which made fortunes for men of violence, of the brewers, bottlers, tobacco kings, and opium lords, because we just can't take it. What family has not been damaged through its generations of having to bear addiction, illness, violence, poverty, and destruction none of us want.
"The Old Families" know this well and that is how they maintain control of world wealth. They know the families that stick together rule together. Since they have intermarried to keep money, they are prone to insanity. By breaking up pioneer American families and the businesses and industries they built, and by exploiting native peoples of America and Hawaii, they have again overrun us and tyranny rules.
Nazi science was carefully preserved and brought to America for the Prescott Bush CIA to utilize. This is the place in American history I have found where the idealism of America was completely derailed. It happened in the transition from the OSS to the post-war Central Intelligence Agency of which George H.W. Bush became director in 1976. 1976 was a critical year for those who during the Great Depression were induced to purchase low-yield tax-free government securities. Many of the original investors were deceased by 1976, but the Treasury Notes of 1976 existed for paying estate tax in portfolios nationwide. They were culled out of trusts by lawyers and given to GHW Bush for secret money to move around the country.
I think we've all seen or thought one hand doesn't know what the other is doing in our security agencies, especially now that we have even another secret division of intelligence, Homeland Security. The reason is Bush, Bush, Bush, and before that Harriman, Rockefeller, and Robert Fleming, grandfather of Ian, all in bed thick as fleas with the London Counting Houses-
Ian Fleming could hardly rat out his own family, but he certainly made a lot of things clear in the James Bond Books, supplemented by Birds of the West Indies, 1961, by James Bond.
Not to mention that the Mob is Bank of America. That "Lincoln" companies are the former German American National Bank. Not to mention Berghoff, the famous brewer, was president of this bank in Indiana, and Hitler's Alpine retreat was named "Berghof."
We cannot stop the stress until the original trouble makers are rooted out for their past crimes and history is told aright. The damage they have done has to be defined and rectified, as if our whole nation was a Superfund Site.
To Ken: (Kens have never liked me)
There is a difference between complaining and constructive criticism. I never complain.
But I do make long term observations and tabulate data in order to present reasonable conclusions.
FYI- Thom Hartmann does not write this blog, Randy Campbell, nr, whatever. You may not realize how many people have been here for years and years and have left and formed a spin-off group of more than 880 liberals and democrats who share the same basic values, who listen to the show, but who cannot stand the PROFANITY (see post #1 above mine), INTOLERANCE, and boredom into which the blog has descended.
Any observer can see how the posts have dwindled to just a few hopeful hangers-on and newcomers, while this blogspot should be the interactive heart of the community.
I have discussed this phenomenon with various persons who were once valuable commenters and contributors to the overall discussion, thus those who get along have moved on.
In the alternate TH Reality, none of us would dare to try and intimidate a poster who has expressed an honest opinion or criticism.
The privilege of having the job writing this blog post I feel demands more research and originality to engage a constructive discussion community. That is my American right to express and a good writer always respects and listens to criticism and suggestion.
The 880 are proof that many a good intellect stay away to avoid hostility and attempted censorship by other members of the TH Community.
I have never listened to Rush Limbaugh in my life, and in fact can't listen to radio at all. I come here because I love and adore Thom and Louise's work as part of a hopeful future.
That still doesn't mean I can't say The Blog is getting Boring.
Truth, Justice, The American Way:
Truth: We Americans have gone on for years and years tolerating unanswered questions about bombings, assassinations, mass terrorism, bombings, and even accepting lies.
My idea is the Whole Truth and Nothing But the Truth- this we should demand from the Treasury, Congress, and our intelligence agencies. Instead, we are given cover stories to hold us till the next violent act against our People.
Justice: Do Justice in the courts and the heavens will open and rain blessings on the earth. This includes fair measures of law enforcement, punishment that fits the crime (i.e. drug possession vs. massive bank or investment fraud), and an end to the Lawyers and Judges Cartel which diverts ill-gotten wealth to Royalists.
The American Way: I think today's Lincoln poster, Hopalong Cassidy, and the Lone Ranger have defined it. The American Way allows all to prosper without interference from corrupt officials, monopolies, hidden trusts, lawyers, syndicates, 400 year old mortgage bonds, and private insurance companies.