For once, I disagree with you, Thom. I think it is a liability issue. We need to treat police equally as citizens, and use investigations that are not run by his fellow workers, but by neutral third parties. Even in this age, no one is willing to cross the thin blue line, and we allow this to continue to happen by letting so many officers get away with previous infractions with a system where their buddies help them out in order to save face for the department as a whole.
Thom, I believe that in some jurisdictions, at least some of the COPS money is used to pay "certified police informants" instead of paying for patrolmen to walk the streets. These informants are recruited from the recently paroled or those on probation. Their sometimes questionable testimony is rarely needed because the defendants plead Guilty to a lesser charge because the defendants can rarely afford proper legal counsel.
stecoop01, you may be correct about the 'caged rat syndrome'. But I think that ALL police officers accused of using excessive force should be given drug tests for steroids. 'Roid Rage' might be behind all the police rage and excessive force, but we may never know if our sworn officers are not tested for anabolic steroids. They are surely exhibiting the symptoms.
Thom is right. However, I don't think any of this is new. I think that because of the advent of personal communication devices with video cameras built in that we are now capturing it as evidence. For decades now black Americans have told us repeatedly about how they have been mistreated by law enforcement. It's easy to discount those stories as hearsay; however, when there is an active video of the incident that isn't so easy anymore.
Here in my city the police force has been cut to a skeleton crew. We've actually been told that if it isn't a life threatening emergency best to file the report ourselves on line because an officer may never even be dispatched. Not only is such a situation a hay day for real criminals it also stretches the ability of the officers that are still employed very thin. That added stress creates an ideal environment to cause someone to overreact.
We have a definite problem in this country with law enforcement and police brutality. I think the solutions that Thom talks about are the ones that will best solve this problem. He has my full support.
Increasingly violent police officers are a sympton of an increasingly paranoid society, which is itself a characteristic of the "Caged Rat Syndrome", which is a symptom of overpopulation.
Sadly, as our population continues to explode, things are just going to get worse.
There will never be an end to human cruelty nor will there be peace on Earth until the human race has finally exterminated itself.
Anyone up for a good old fashioned Global Nuclear War, with a little biological and chemical warfare on the side?
Palindromedary ~ Spell checker works for you? You must have a generic browser spell check. There is none on this site. However, I do agree that your avatar looks much better. Very nice. Much more formidable.
Regarding numbers I see no improvement. There are no numbers to be mistaken. There are no numbers to be misassigned. Even a misassigned number can still be used for reference. How am I supposed to say that I agree with you position in post # 22, but completely disagree with your position in post # 14. I can't, can I? In fact, the only way I can site you now is by repeating everything you said. That, my friend, sucks!
I might also add, what if I wanted to respond to a post from another blog. How do I do that? 'Oh you said something yesterday that bothers me. Trust me, it's there somewhere. Just look for it.' No numbers suck! Any numbers, even wrong numbers, are better than no numbers.
By the way, I just replied to you. You know that because I'm telling you right now. How would you know that otherwise?
Congrats on the new website design. Another new thing to adjust to at my advanced age. Things started downhill back when Reagan took us off crank handle telephones, by cracky!
Spell checker works ok for me. And, so far, I don't have a problem with the new format. I like it! As for my avatar....now my little red devil appears to be larger, because the frame is smaller, than it was. Cool! And there was a problem before when one clicked on a 'reply' button in that it would not always refer to the correct comment number because of the edits that might occur.
It seems to me that people just can't take a hint! We are living in a police state and the Police are no better than NAZIs. Unless you want to be a martyr and have a death wish you had better not risk being sassy to these killers. Yes, Sir! Yes, Sir! What ever you say, Sir! And I think that's the message they are trying to send us. You'd better not challenge authority...especially if that authority is carrying weapons. Not all police are psychos but some of them are. We need to put political pressure on those who hire these people into positions where they can murder people and then, often, get away with a slap on the wrist. These people need to be screened and trained and punished as severely as they would punish any criminal for beating or murdering someone.
Aliceinwonderland ~ I'm with you. This sucks royally. No post numbers makes it impossible to see where we are or what we are talking about. What's up with that? Also this white background is great for producing eye strain and fatiguing our monitors. Personally, I prefer the blues!
Just now, just for the heck of it, I tried to reply to you. Other than my own statement of your name there was nothing stated at all that indicted I was talking to you. I reiterate, "This Sucks!"
All these stupid new formatting options and no spell checker? Seriously Thom does that make any sense at all to you? If this blog needs any kind of enhancement, it needs a spell checker first and foremost! Strike through? What is that?
Sheeit! Wish we had a vote on this new format. I'd vote thumbs down. Our avatars have shrunk! I can no longer read the "Monsanto" on Elioflight's avatar (which, incidentally, happens to be one of my favorites). - AIW
I heard on pretty good authority that Walgreens didn't move in the end not because of public opprobrium but because the U.S Government - I believe it was the Justice Department - was to file an expensive lawsuit against them that would tie them up in court for years if they moved.
To establish an object (corporation) as a person is an obscenity exceeded only by treating a person as an object. Such an obscenity is inescapably at the core of capitalism.
When Kevin Martin is included in the panel, I have such a hard time following the debate, partly because he interrupts so much and partly because his rudeness is often just too overwhelming.
Well, I was pretty sure I commented here but don't see it, so here goes again.
If corporations are people now, companies that relocate to avoid taxes (what little they pay anyway) should be treated as tax evaders. Their goods should be treated as imported goods and subject to all the tarriffs and taxes therein. They should NOT ever get any AMERICAN taxpayer money/corporate welfare or subsidies, as they are now a foreign citizen.
Jniffen has the right idea, as well.
Here are the real and logical results of corporate personhood--take that lightweight K-RATS on the Supreme Court--you sure opened a can of worms--HA! HA! Everyone saw it coming but YOU! Impeachment should be the reward for incompetence of logic, subversion of the US Constitution, and making judgements that are political and fatten their wallets besides, which are BRIBES.
For once, I disagree with you, Thom. I think it is a liability issue. We need to treat police equally as citizens, and use investigations that are not run by his fellow workers, but by neutral third parties. Even in this age, no one is willing to cross the thin blue line, and we allow this to continue to happen by letting so many officers get away with previous infractions with a system where their buddies help them out in order to save face for the department as a whole.
We should have never gone to Iraq in the first place.
Iraqis need to take control of their country. When will this end ?
More money for the hawks like Cheney. If we keep getting involved,
we will never get out of there.
Thom, I believe that in some jurisdictions, at least some of the COPS money is used to pay "certified police informants" instead of paying for patrolmen to walk the streets. These informants are recruited from the recently paroled or those on probation. Their sometimes questionable testimony is rarely needed because the defendants plead Guilty to a lesser charge because the defendants can rarely afford proper legal counsel.
stecoop01, you may be correct about the 'caged rat syndrome'. But I think that ALL police officers accused of using excessive force should be given drug tests for steroids. 'Roid Rage' might be behind all the police rage and excessive force, but we may never know if our sworn officers are not tested for anabolic steroids. They are surely exhibiting the symptoms.
If we hadn't gone there we wouldn't have the responsibility. We are just helipng American companies make money from the country.
Thom is right. However, I don't think any of this is new. I think that because of the advent of personal communication devices with video cameras built in that we are now capturing it as evidence. For decades now black Americans have told us repeatedly about how they have been mistreated by law enforcement. It's easy to discount those stories as hearsay; however, when there is an active video of the incident that isn't so easy anymore.
Here in my city the police force has been cut to a skeleton crew. We've actually been told that if it isn't a life threatening emergency best to file the report ourselves on line because an officer may never even be dispatched. Not only is such a situation a hay day for real criminals it also stretches the ability of the officers that are still employed very thin. That added stress creates an ideal environment to cause someone to overreact.
We have a definite problem in this country with law enforcement and police brutality. I think the solutions that Thom talks about are the ones that will best solve this problem. He has my full support.
Increasingly violent police officers are a sympton of an increasingly paranoid society, which is itself a characteristic of the "Caged Rat Syndrome", which is a symptom of overpopulation.
Sadly, as our population continues to explode, things are just going to get worse.
There will never be an end to human cruelty nor will there be peace on Earth until the human race has finally exterminated itself.
Anyone up for a good old fashioned Global Nuclear War, with a little biological and chemical warfare on the side?
If I enter something on the blog the new message count goes away.
I noticed the 9 new comments was still there after I read the 9 new comments. Hopefully, this is a beta version.
Palindromedary ~ Spell checker works for you? You must have a generic browser spell check. There is none on this site. However, I do agree that your avatar looks much better. Very nice. Much more formidable.
Regarding numbers I see no improvement. There are no numbers to be mistaken. There are no numbers to be misassigned. Even a misassigned number can still be used for reference. How am I supposed to say that I agree with you position in post # 22, but completely disagree with your position in post # 14. I can't, can I? In fact, the only way I can site you now is by repeating everything you said. That, my friend, sucks!
I might also add, what if I wanted to respond to a post from another blog. How do I do that? 'Oh you said something yesterday that bothers me. Trust me, it's there somewhere. Just look for it.' No numbers suck! Any numbers, even wrong numbers, are better than no numbers.
By the way, I just replied to you. You know that because I'm telling you right now. How would you know that otherwise?
Congrats on the new website design. Another new thing to adjust to at my advanced age. Things started downhill back when Reagan took us off crank handle telephones, by cracky!
Spell checker works ok for me. And, so far, I don't have a problem with the new format. I like it! As for my avatar....now my little red devil appears to be larger, because the frame is smaller, than it was. Cool! And there was a problem before when one clicked on a 'reply' button in that it would not always refer to the correct comment number because of the edits that might occur.
It seems to me that people just can't take a hint! We are living in a police state and the Police are no better than NAZIs. Unless you want to be a martyr and have a death wish you had better not risk being sassy to these killers. Yes, Sir! Yes, Sir! What ever you say, Sir! And I think that's the message they are trying to send us. You'd better not challenge authority...especially if that authority is carrying weapons. Not all police are psychos but some of them are. We need to put political pressure on those who hire these people into positions where they can murder people and then, often, get away with a slap on the wrist. These people need to be screened and trained and punished as severely as they would punish any criminal for beating or murdering someone.
Aliceinwonderland ~ I'm with you. This sucks royally. No post numbers makes it impossible to see where we are or what we are talking about. What's up with that? Also this white background is great for producing eye strain and fatiguing our monitors. Personally, I prefer the blues!
Just now, just for the heck of it, I tried to reply to you. Other than my own statement of your name there was nothing stated at all that indicted I was talking to you. I reiterate, "This Sucks!"
All these stupid new formatting options and no spell checker? Seriously Thom does that make any sense at all to you? If this blog needs any kind of enhancement, it needs a spell checker first and foremost! Strike through? What is that?
Sheeit! Wish we had a vote on this new format. I'd vote thumbs down. Our avatars have shrunk! I can no longer read the "Monsanto" on Elioflight's avatar (which, incidentally, happens to be one of my favorites). - AIW
I got this when I tried to leave a message: The content I tried to send was: :-)
You have attempted to post the same identical content multiple times, causing your posts to be flagged as potential spam.......
:-)
Love the new look of the web site! No more bluesssss!!
Love the new look of the web site! No more bluesssss!!
Love the new look of the web site!
That is well put, ckrob.
I heard on pretty good authority that Walgreens didn't move in the end not because of public opprobrium but because the U.S Government - I believe it was the Justice Department - was to file an expensive lawsuit against them that would tie them up in court for years if they moved.
Beautiful, CK. So true.
To establish an object (corporation) as a person is an obscenity exceeded only by treating a person as an object. Such an obscenity is inescapably at the core of capitalism.
When Kevin Martin is included in the panel, I have such a hard time following the debate, partly because he interrupts so much and partly because his rudeness is often just too overwhelming.
Well, I was pretty sure I commented here but don't see it, so here goes again.
If corporations are people now, companies that relocate to avoid taxes (what little they pay anyway) should be treated as tax evaders. Their goods should be treated as imported goods and subject to all the tarriffs and taxes therein. They should NOT ever get any AMERICAN taxpayer money/corporate welfare or subsidies, as they are now a foreign citizen.
Jniffen has the right idea, as well.
Here are the real and logical results of corporate personhood--take that lightweight K-RATS on the Supreme Court--you sure opened a can of worms--HA! HA! Everyone saw it coming but YOU! Impeachment should be the reward for incompetence of logic, subversion of the US Constitution, and making judgements that are political and fatten their wallets besides, which are BRIBES.
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