Recent comments
ADHD: Hunter in a Farmer's World
Thom Hartmann has written a dozen books covering ADD / ADHD - Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder.
Join Thom for his new twice-weekly email newsletters on ADHD, whether it affects you or a member of your family.
Thom's Blog Is On the Move
By webmaster
Hello All
Thom's blog in this space and moving to a new home.
Please follow us across to hartmannreport.com - this will be the only place going forward to read Thom's blog posts and articles.
Giving workers what they have earned – which is paid sick days – isn’t about workers rights. It’s about national security, and saving millions of Americans from needlessly contracting the flu when they dine out or go to the grocery store. Scottsdale Ranch homes for sale
Well, maybe not the Reagan library, he did remove Carter's solar panels from the White House.
Funny how I never see a hayseed like "Wendalore" having anything to say about all our tax dollars being spent on stupid red states that don't even provide most of the taxes that people in blue states provide for their redneck arses. Stupid old bats with horn rimmed glasses should keep their ignorant mouths shut more often.
"Kend," just another ignorant hayseed that can't even read and write, so worried about someone spending a few tax dollars on something that would help another human being, but of course has no problem with crooked Americans wasting millions and billions of dollars on uselessly killing people. The stupid Dixie leftover hicks of America need to be canned as food to feed feril cats.
It all makes perfect sense. Being a transwoman myself I know it is all about honesty and authenticity. Chelsea has chosen the path of truth once more! Good for her! She has all my support!
Oh no she ditn' ask the government to pay for her hormone treatment and surgery. Oh, no. You have got to be kidding. This is not a medical disorder, it's elective surgery. Come on, you think they give all the depressed incarcerted women that want bigger breasts implants to make them feel better in jail? You think they prescribe viagra to guys in jail so they can relieve their anxiety by masturbating? No way, hey, I support anyone that wants to have elective surgery to do anything they want. Let them have a foot grafted onto the top of their head.
But the taxpayers shouldn't pay for it. Sheesh.
DAnneMarc: #24...Well said! And I agree! What we need to do is get Manning out of prison. Manning doesn't deserve to be there...a victim of empire building criminals that unfairly exploits us all.
however....here is the conclusions of a long-term study that might seem to indicate they would be doing Manning no favors by giving him an operation.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21364939
Kend ~ I'm glad to hear that. I too am worried about Ms Manning. However, all jokes aside--and I can think of at least a hundred such jokes; but, have the compassion and maturity to refrain from using them--Ms Manning is not only an American Hero but an example to future generations on how to stand up to preserve our sacred traditions and principles that this country is founded on. I would refrain from commenting on her gender issues and focus on her political dilemma. She is a hero and an example to everyone that anyone can make a difference as long as they believe in themselves. We need to make sure that her example shines brightly for posterity and is not extinguished and forgotten in prison. Free Chelsea Manning NOW!!!
Palindromedary ~ Thank you!
Gender Identity Disorder is a condition that many people in society suffer from. It is reasonable to expect these people to finance their own medical solution to the problem. Most do. However, if you incarcerate someone suffering from this condition without any means to correct the problem you are creating a condition that could easily qualify for cruel and unusual punishment. After all, you are imposing 35 years of additional "suffering" on someone without means of helping themselves. Ms Manning doesn't even deserve 35 years of incarceration. Let's face it, she is a casualty of war; regardless of what the DOJ says.
DAnneMarc:
Well, I guess I would have to tend to agree with you here. What Mr. Manning did for the country was pretty awesome...he is a hero. And if he ran for President...I'd even vote for him. And you are right...in this one case...we owe Manning a great deal...a sex change operation would not be too much to ask. But, I certainly don't think that setting this kind of precedence for everyone else so inclined is a good idea. After all, all those dying children, who can't get operations, because of lack of funding may not be heroes in the sense that Manning is but all those sexually confused people wanting sex changes are certainly not heroes either. I don't know if I could ever get over feeling like I was being tugged to accept something that I felt was against my nature...ie: pretending a man was a woman...by calling him a her...but then I haven't spent any time in prison either....yet, anyway! ;-O
Let's see, if Manning had that sex change operation and managed to get elected President...I guess we'd have to call him...Madam President? Oh, what the heck...let's do it...let's get Manning what he wants and then we'll all elect him President to the United States...that'll really tick off the Republicans. note: hopefully, he won't run as a Republican.
Palindromedary ~ By and large I agree with you 100%. However, the case of Bradley Manning is different. Obviously, he enlisted in the military to achieve a high paying career. What he discovered as an enlistee is a conflict of interest with his moral identity. He acted on those conflicting interests and encountered harsh opposition to his goals. Now, we as a nation, have benefited from his opposition and therefore owe him a debt of gratitude. What is so wrong with compensating him with his psycho/sexual needs in exchange for his service to his country? If he lost a leg in combat you would have no problem. If he lost his arm in combat you would have no problem. If he lost his mind in combat you would have no problem. Why? Because he was serving his country.
Wasn't he serving his country when he ended his career? Why can't we pay for his needs now that he is incapable of doing so himself. He wanted to do that originally himself; yet now he is stripped of the means by the cabal that controls this country. He is a victim of combat as much as any other solder--probably more. I say give him/her anything she wants in the name of freedom. Chelsea Manning isn't the only one who will benefit from that--so will we all.
DAnneMarc: I don't care whether you call it " Sexual or cosmetic enhancement for narcissistic reasons" or "sexual identity" or "Gender Identity Disorder" or now.."Gender Dysphoria"....it doesn't matter...the bottom line is that if it isn't a real medical problem then public funds that would normally go towards those who really do have real (and far more urgent and necessary) medical problems should not be taken away from those who have real medical problems.
You would feel pretty bad if you knew that some child needing an operation that could save his/her life could not happen because some guy wanted to use those funds to morph into a woman..wouldn't you?
I'd say that "mental problems" or "mental disorder" is more in line to what plagues MR. Bradley Manning and anyone else with that "condition". Disclaimer: I'm not a shrink or a medical professional..and I am also not one of those whose profession depends upon being politically correct.
I don't buy it that people are born with their "sexual identity"... they learn those things as they grow up. I know... I know... some argue that the AMA and/or APA say it is a "medical" problem...but just imagine how many of those already with homosexual tendencies or have gender identity disorders are in high positions of power in those organizations that work to generate the politically correct hypothesis that may tend to support their "new" position.
They may argue... but have no real proof to support it... that because of hormones in the mother's womb when carrying the child..yada, yada, yada...and some other very vague insinuations...and they even don't entirely dismiss the part that it has something to do with a learning process, and/or parental upbringing, from childhood to adult...but they don't stress that very hard.
Take the cases where young children are exposed constantly to the emotional abuses of sexually hung-up parents (often very religious ones) who make children disgusted with their body parts...or even other adults..say teachers...make them feel guilty or ashamed about their sexual feelings or body parts. Under such conditions many children may very well grow up hating their body parts..hating their gender. On the other hand if young children were introduced to same-sex sex at an early age say...from pajama parties, for instance, ..they learn that too.
Again, if you have the money to spend for sex change operations then it is at your discretion. But, I got to tell you that...if you are a guy changing into a girl...you are usually not going to be any raving beauty..and that goes for a girl changing into a guy...ugliest girl/guy I've ever seen. And lots of people are just not going to be fooled like that...they'll know what gender you really are..even with an operation and hormone treatments..well...there may be a few exceptions. Generally, they look a lot better as their born gender than they do as their morphed genders.
What if some people thought that their right arm, even though it was functioning ok, was ugly and always in the way and had a very stressful mental angst over having to live with that right arm and decided that public funds should be used to have an operation to remove that right arm? Most people would agree that that person was not quite right in the head...needed a shrink...and they would also agree that it would be totally negligent to spend public funds to "disarm" someone (pun intended!)?
You can argue..." It is after all their body. It is after all their life."
But it is taking away from those who really do have real medical problems. Sex change operations are discretionary and not necessary medically.
----------------
historywriter:
http://www.advocate.com/politics/transgender/2012/07/23/dsm-replaces-gen...
Because of constant pressure from those among us, and spread throughout all the institutions of the land, they are changing the terminology...not because it wasn't originally medically correct but because it is politically incorrect.
Any medical operation that is done for the purpose of making a person feel better about themselves is a cosmetic operation. Some, who have been horribly disfigured have a case for medical operations to correct the condition. They are the ones who cannot hide their disfigurement. Otherwise, it is purely a cosmetic operation. And it is no wonder that most medical insurance companies don't cover that kind of thing. Oh, I think I need a face lift to look better...and feel better about myself...or, maybe a tummy tuck! Yeah, that's right....let the taxpayers pay for it all.
"Fascist Billionaire's Puppet Military [/Industrial/Congressional screw 'em all, we're getting ours and then some Complex]"
Thank you, Michael Moore.
Three months 'til the 50th Anniversary of JFK's assasination... ...almost a half century since the coup d'etat.
....
DAnne, seriously I am worried About this guy. This is prison. it's the real thing.
Most definitely, and State buildings as well. Also be nice to have a solar panel program similar to Germany's for our homes. I would certainly install them.
Fred Griswold ~ His subjective opinion should trump anyone else's precisely because it is HIS opinion about HERSELF. Are you suggesting that you, I, or anyone else should decide for Chelsea Manning what her sexual identity should be? Then maybe you, I and everyone else should decide for Ms Manning what her political identity should be, what her social identity should be, perhaps even what her moral identity should be? Do we not embrace freedom of choice in this country? Do we not embrace the rights of the individual in this country? Do we not embrace freedom of expression in this country? Who are we to dictate the identity--sexual or otherwise--of any other person other than ourselves?
It might be hard for many to grasp but you can't judge a book by it's cover; and, you should never judge anyone other than yourself. Get over it!
akunard and Kend ~ Both of you should be ashamed of yourselves and really need to grow up!
historywriter ~ You are right on! Thank you for a most sobering post.
akundard, I have no idea what her wishes are, nor do you, but I'm pretty sure they separate the men from the women in jail.
I can't say I see anything wrong with calling Bradley Manning in accordance with his birth gender. Going by the anatomy is a lot more reliable than all that flaky psychological stuff. Plus it's not subjective so it is scientific. His opinion about himself may or may not be right, people do change their minds on things like that sometimes. So why should his subjective opinion trump anyone else's?
Kend...... Dude, are you having a stroke?
Akunard, that's scary. Can you imagine what green mile and his buddies will do to that poor guy after what he said. I sure hope the military prisons have protective custody.
She will get her wish and be a big black guys bitch.
Oh so now I understand way the left wants there "fair share" of my hard earned money, so the can piss it away on bullshit this. I are you kidding me.
Palindromedary ~ We are what we are. That is no fault of our own. The richness of a society is expressed in it's diversity. Though I would consider such resources a waste for someone like you or I, I cannot deny anyone else the services that they see fit for themselves. It is after all their body. It is after all their life. Sexual or cosmetic enhancement for narcissistic reasons is one thing, sexual identity is something completely different. If Ms Manning committed an immoral crime such as murder in order to qualify for such treatments I would agree with you. However, she is a hero and martyr. If she/he wants to become a she/she with tax payer money I wish her the best of luck and offer up the first buck. That is but a pittance society owes this brave and noble individual. I wish she finds the peace that she has earned. She deserves every bit of it and more. If you can't agree with that, then you clearly contradict your posts from a few days ago. I'm sure you don't want me to repost them for you.