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51 votes constitutes a majority - the Democrats had a chance to fix the filibuster issue and failed to do so because of Harry Reid! So the majority party still has no voice! It's time for Harry Reid (who voted against the gun legislation) to go! I have posted the list of ALL who voted against the gun legislation on my Facebook page and in other numerous media. We all need to keep posting this list through the 2014 elections to remind the 90% of those for sensible gun legislation to vote against those on this list who revere the NRA MORE than they do the needs of the general American public!
VOTES AGAINST BACKGROUND CHECKS:
Alabama: Sessions, Shelby, Alaska: Begicch; Murkowski, Arizona: Flake; Arkansas: Boozman, Pryor; Florida: Rubio; Georgia: Chammbliss, Isakson; Idaho: Crapo, Risch; Indiana: Coats; Iowa: Grassley; Kansas: Moran, Roberts; Kentucky: McConnell, Paul; Louisianna: Vitter; Mississippi: Cochran, Wicker; Missouri: Blount, Montana: Baucus; Nebraska: Fischer, Johanns; Nevada: Heller, Reid; New Hampshire: Ayotte; North Carolina: Burr; North Dakota: Heitkamp, Hoeven; Ohio: Portman; Oklahoma: Cobrun, Inhofe; South Carolina: Graham, Scott; South Dakota: Thune; Tennesee: Alexander, Corker; Texas: Corryn, Cruz; Utah: Hatch, Lee; Wisconsin: Johnson; Wyoming: Barrasso, Enzi
I think the mistake that gun control advoctes are making is saying that laws will keep criminals from getting guns. The bill is also about keeping the mentally ill from gun ownership--who are the people shooting little children? The mentally ill, not criminals.
At a Cleveland news station and young woman reporter, Shay Harris (Channel 5), recently interviewed a gang member, who hid his identity, about how gangs get their guns. He says that a man in a van shows up with BRAND NEW product--high capacity weapons and ammo. The dealer obtains them from stolen train shipments. The gun manufacturers just write off the loss, forget about the guns, and let the criminals have them. There is no law enforcement trying to retrive these weapons.
Gun manufacturers are irresponsible; it seems that their goal is only to sell as much product as possible--shame on them.
Yes lets have a government that controls its people through suppression. You do understand that is what you are suggesting? Unless of course you would disarm the paramilitary police and military.
Heres a crazy thought; Invent time travel and go back in time and "shoot" the guy who discovered gun powder.
First of all JOHN N DAUGHERTY JR. while "cash" still excists, use it...Ain't no trail.
Second to answer your question; "what will it take for congress to represent the citizens...children, the poor, and the less advantaged..." It will take those mentioned, and supporters for a Government Of, For, and By the People,(not Corporations), to organize and take their struggle from the internet and march into the streets in an aggressive non violent protest, voicing their grievences. It will take civil disobedence. It will take a grand mass scale boycotting income taxes, corrupt corporations, and those that pandor to the corporations, i.e. Obama and the like. It will take non violent resitance to a Paramilitary police force. It will take the blood of innocent lives. It will take moxie. It will take commitment. It will take dedication. It will take work.
It will take reinstating and enforcing the Declaration of Independence, which states that it is the right of The People to alter or abolish any government when it becomes destructive of certain ends; the Equal Right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
And always remember;
First they ignor you. Then they ridicule you. Then they attack you. Then you win. m. Gandhi
tThe second Amendment must be repealed just like 3/5ths of a person, this was a mistake. We will have great difficulty regulating gus if people continue to view them as rights Rights are things you are born with, things that are inalienable. things that you can not separate yourself from.
Being Black, a woman, gay, having a mind that needs educating, having a body that needs healthcare, having the need to speak, to governoneself, to have your privacy. these are things you are born with, these are rights
No one is born with a gun. It is a tool. just as a pilot needs a license and a driver, a prop person on a movie set, a teacher, a doctor, all need licenses to operate their tools.
We should not be trying to protect ourselves from government with weapons our protections are our ability to continue to govern ourselves and vote, for which we need accurate media. the second amendment needs to be repealed "a well regulated militia, being necessary..."
A well regulated militia is no longer "being necessary". REPEAL THE SECOND AMENDENT,
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We are hopefully exposing finally why Congress does not work for the American people. In this instance the fillubuster rule in the Senate that Majority Leader Reid could have revised but did not works well for both parties.
The Democratic Senators that needed to vote for background checks are able to vote yes but dule to the "F" Rule knew they could not obtain 60 votes The Republican Senators and the 4-5 Dem's meet what they felt would meet their constinguents approval even though those 46 votes kept the Senate from moving the Bill to the House.
Again, the winner is the Corporate Sponsors who manufacture these weapons and ammutation of mass destruction to our comunities.
What will it take for Congress to represent the citizens especially the urban dwellers, children, the poor and less advantage would be the publication of the mamed bodies of the children brutally murdered in December and every other caualty of gun violence in our Country. Maybe then we would shock and dispell the influence of corporate America.
I do not want to take your right to own a gun for hunting, recreation, collecting and or security. For those of you who do not think our government can be trusted to have a list of gun owners; you need to realize they have this information simply by obtaing that information from the Credit Cards we use daily that would show the purchase of weapons and or ammunition with just a right click of their mouse on a computer screen.
Sadly, the beat goes on.
JND
It's always strange to see the mddle class finally start to catch on to things that the poor figured out years ago -- not only on this issue, but on a full range of issues.
Should Mua be held responsible for the mess a fellow blogger leaves on the sidewalk? I think not! Only the future will tell. Good luck to us all!
Oh well, I guess he's gone. I hope he pulled the right rip cord. What ya gonna do?
AZ and FLA would be in very big trouble without those old farts pouring millions into your state Nachos. But I do agree they are a little slow. I have a condo in Scottsdale AZ and I drives me crazy waiting for them to get exact change. You would get your table quicker if they didn't take 20 minutes to figure out how much to tip. hopefully I will get old enough to piss young people off to.
BTW ~ Um. That's Geronimo!
Outback! Palindromedary! Please, lighten up friends; remember we're all on the same side...
Got to go now....skydiving lessons...Jeronimo!!!....
Nachos, I just want to alert you to the fact that I'm an "old geezer" with a travel trailer and a serious interest in touring Florida. Not to break the stereotype, but I try never to move at under 75 MPH and normally travel with my loaded Remington 870 across my lap. So move aside, sonny ;-)
MmNachos: Oh, so young! Your turn is coming. I forgive you because one time I felt the same way. It is an affliction of youth. Maybe they should just turn all us old geezers into Soylent Green. Bon appetite!
I like that bumper sticker! So true!
Thank you, Outback! I went to all the good schools to get me that way and it paid off!
You're depraved, PD .... :-)
LIFE; The original sexually transmited disease! (bumpersticker).
It was a beautiful bright sunny day here in S.W.Fl. All the snowbirds (pesky tourist) are heading back north...Yeah I will soon be able to enjoy a few of my favorite resturants without having to wait for 2 hours to get a table.
Soon everyone will be able to drive the spead limit instead of aimlessly driving 15mph under on a 55mph main highway during rush hour. I seriously don't know how these old farts even make it down to florida every year. Most of them haven't a clue where they are, or how to get from point "A" to point "B" even though they have been coming here for 10-20 years. And who in their right mind continues to grants these blind and deaf geesers the "privledge" to drive!?!?ALL of them are on quite a cocktail of medications...I mean REALLY!?!? And another thing; THE LEFT HAND LANE IS FOR PASSING...GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY!!!!
thank you for allowing me to vent on an issue that never gets addressed.
Cheers :)
Outback: I know....I'm so ashamed! I'll repent and try real hard to bore myself with the idea of heavenly frigid angels, streets pave with gold (can't spend it anyway..certainly not on Viagra...take it away!...take it away!), and pearly gates. What? They're not pearly! They're steel? Damn, am I still on earth, where they lock you up for having impure thoughts? Out damn spot! Thane of Cawdor? Nevermore!
Oh, but I can hardly wait for the movie The Great Gatsby...Carey Mulligan is sooooooo cuuuutttte!
No! Stop it! Back in the box! Back in the box!
Progressive groups are already putting ads in local newspapers, and sending out E-mails, so the fight continues and senators are being held accountable. Let's hope they can keep the momentum going until 2014 elections. Maybe they all won't pay the price come election day, but only enough to give the senate a 60 progressive majority is needed. Having the opponents on record is a tried and true method for elections. Let's hope it pays off. Some of these states, and I've lived in a few of them, are sparcely populated backwaters where macho is measured by the number of guns you have in the back of your pickup, where people can be easily swayed by NRA types and where sometimes the difference between Democrats and Republicans is tough to figure. Most of these gun toters are hunters, collectors, and target shooters. So who can say? Tougher times, lack of jobs and economic issues may play a bigger role toward cleaning House and Senate.
I certainly don't believe that there is any real "winding down" of our foreign wars. We are just itching for others. It's very apparent. I just wonder if we will be attacking the new Maduro Presidency in Venezuela. Will the Joint Chiefs of Staff dust off their Operation Northwoods and PNAC plans and do another false flag operation to get people riled up over Venezuela? Maybe those BM bombers suspects are going to turn out to be from Venezuela?
Which reminds me about how ridiculous the main stream media is, or shall I say how ridiculous our authorities are? Today, they were coming off like the bad old internet was causing problems for the authorities because thousands of internetistas were posting photos of the people at the site of the BM bombing just before the bombing...and pointing fingers at everyone carrying back packs as possible suspects.
The authorities just can't seem to make up their mind about citizen participation in being vigilant and observant. They used to tell us to do just that and report anything and everything to the authorities. And like DAnnemarc said..when he reported some questionable things going on at a bank to the Homeland Security they just gave him the brush off. What the hell can you do when the damn FBI would ignored their agent's reports about suspected terrorists?
Maybe it scares them because someone might catch something that will contradict with the official conspiracy theory the authorities propagandize us with? Sometimes they say "Be observant and report all questionable or suspicious people!" And now they are telling us that we are a bunch of busybodies who should leave the investigations up to the "professionals".
They claim that some of the people at the BM site were wrongly accused of possibly being the bag men carrying the bombs...and their feelings were hurt because the head lights were beaming in their direction and their privacy was violated. Well, excusssssseeeee me! That was a public place and a very violent thing just happened drawing more of the public awareness to the scene. If people don't want to have their privacy violated then don't go to crowded public places. We ain't in Kansas, anymore, Dorothy! Baghdad market explosions have caught up with us. They do not forget! They do not forgive! Expect them! Stay out of crowded places!
Our authorities are already violating our privacy and you rag on internetistas for doing it? It's like that news report that DAnnemarc told us about yesterday...the quidnunc reporter interviewing at the factory in Fremont that manufactured that battery that set off the BM bomb acted like (and I paraphrase) "Gee, how do you feel for having made such a dastardly device that killed so many people?" "Now, aren't you ashamed of yourself?"
I think what it largely amounts to is that the internet is beating the socks off of main stream media. The main stream media....you know, the ones who are owned and used by wealthy elite to propagandize us...get us so afraid and confused that we give our assent in our government illegally attacking other countries. The ones that hypes up the criminal government's conspiracy theories but works to squelch any opposing view by thousands of professionals who shoot holes in the official conspiracy theory.
PD: 72 nubile young knockout virgins (I added some of that) and a container ship full of Viagra? Earthly sacrifices? Where are your priorities, man?
I'm rather partial to the one that promises 72 virgins providing I get all the Viagra I need. But, I'm afraid I just don't have the willingness to make the kind of earthly sacrifices that are required. ;-}
Right on, Outback! Give em hell! They deserve it! They are a bunch of hypocrites.
Oh, a rock show? What kind of rocks do you collect?
Just funin' wich u, man! Wow, performing at the Queen Mary..is she still alive? Ok, Ok, I'll stop now! But I sure do agree about Washington being a bunch of Pigs at the trough!