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DANNEMARC, You'll sleep just fine!
If you would like a good read about the A bomd, read Howard Zinn's "The Bomb". It's a short read, about 180+/- pgs. Howard flew bomb missions during WWII. This book should be required reading in ALL high school history classes.
Palindromedary ~ ARE YOU THERE? I don't think I will be able to sleep tonight. Is this true? Did the United States fire bomb over 100 Japanese cities before dropping the ABomb?
I can't even begin to wrap my head around this. Did Oliver Stone's 'historian' exadurate? OMG!!!
Hi Outback! If I might suggest some reading that might lift your spirits--I'd suggest the Bible. Really! No kidding! Not the whole Bible. LOL
You see I've learned at a young age the the best way to read any book is to start at the end. If you don't like the way it ends, throw it away. I'd begin my Bible reading with Revelations 19. If you make it to the end--just a couple of pages--good for you. You might want to back up to Revelations 12 -19 then. If that works out, read the book of Matthew. The red part if nothing else. Then your done. Welcome to the best part of Christianity!
I hope that light reading picks up your spirits and gives you hope. It always picked up mine. I really need it right now; so, if you'll excuse me... God Bless!~
These drones whom some detest and some approve are the first generation, the model T. Next will come the pre-programed DNA specified cyber-rodent or cyber-insect. After that... These so called tech-advancements we think would take decades, take years, then months, then? Sorry to sound like chicken little but this turns into govt-bullshit out of control. The founding documents didnt envision AR-15's in the hands of us. Or is it they didnt envision unrestricted excecutive power in control of drones?
Damien from San Diego ~ Thank you for that tip about Oliver Stone's docu-film "The Secret History of the United States." I don't have SHOWTIME but I was able to dig up this disturbing interview from YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO-Y8wNwbuA
I have dicussed the wisdom of dropping the ABombs on Japan at length with Palindromedary in previous posts. Most of what he said is validated in this interview. However, I never knew we fire bombed over 100 Japanese cities before using the Atomic bomb...
I must appologize to everyone. This little tidbit has sent my mind adrift on a turbulent sea of shock! It will take me a while to absorb this data... A LONG WHILE! I can't find the words to comment right now! Sorry!!
Don't know if I voiced that first on this blog but I have sure heard it a number of other places from some more widely read and listened to people on RT and FSTV. I read an article once from some soldiers who served in Iraq and they just couldn't understand the logic behind what they were doing over there. To them, it was obvious that it had nothing to do with "winning hearts and minds" and everything to do with purposely creating enemies. And if you think about it...and if you have read Naomi Klein's book, and others, you realize that it's all about creating enemies to use as propaganda against the American citizens themselves for the purpose of controlling them and their bank accounts through unnecessary taxation.
By the way, you've heard the slogan "going postal" well...I think we can give the post office a break now that the LAPD and fellow officers in Torrance have acted like Blackwater flunkies in shooting up innocent newspaper delivery women and a young white man on his way to go surfing. If you have a car that looks anything like what Dorner is believed to currently be driving...look out..probably should just stay home. The cops shoot first and maybe apologize later. Looks like the LAPD is suffering from a little bit of PTSD themselves. Where will Dorner strike next? The shadow knows!!! Incidentally, Dorner's complaints may have something to them...there are so many people that see the LAPD as a corrupt organization that the LAPD is now saying they are going to reopen the investigation into Dorner's firing (they say..just to put people's minds to rest that LAPD is not crooked...yeah, right!). I just hope the LAPD doesn't get hold of drones...especially the armed ones!
The Daily Bulletin is doing a lot of stories on Dorner and the LAPD. One tells of how the ex-LAPD police chief Quan was fired after 6 months on the job back in 2002 as a Cal-Poly Pomona campus police chief. He was terminated because he objected to hiring an African American female. He sued the school in 2004 and I believe he got something like $32,000.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0210-manhunt-20130210,0,4459703....
http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_22543822
Jesus, sorry folks. I've gone around the bend...
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Jazzjoy - The problem as always boils down to "who's in charge of the drones and what are they're up to?"
David J Cyr - you're forgetting one teeny weenie little fact: there isn't a RCH's difference between the Republican and Democratic Party's complicity in any of this shit. Samsnead said it best: "Imperialiam is bipartisan"
Sam, you have my vote for Pres next time around (whether you run or not;-) Loved your comment!
sorry, double post....
This may seem far-fetched or even somewhat of a police state concept but heck America seems to be loaded with anti any amendment operations, so let’s blow the wad, as in a sizable roll of paper money. The Gaussian bunker banker canary island profiteers would love this. Or maybe not.
President Obama could put some integrity in this drones stuff. Really high tech it to that point a Drone can call an open channel. On screen (star trek type) for an observation. A communication message “Mr. Terrorist you have found surrender or be the cause of innocent deaths” Or “Mr. Terrorist there is no escape plus you will lose or be deprived the seventy five maidens promised by Allah”. Yes it is a stretch isn’t it.
All Black boxed and recorded for United Nations and American endorsement. Repeated over into the regular public channel the Bin Laden family normally watches. I choose them because they are so wicked and total friends with the Bush family they should help America right? Are you laughing yet? Not hard enough.
No kidding, it can be done and create terrific jobs in the VoIP protocol sciences. H.323 and Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Protocols videoconference need a warp drive progressive evolution into the new millennium. Just think if every American was connected to the network post office security grid anyone could push a warning or alert button, a 911, infrastructure alert system via fiber optics, light speed, to send a drone right up Ben Laden lane.
Marc argues against privatization of prisons and the campaign finance system - or, for publicly financed political campaigns.
Ullman says, "You have a right to work!" An absurdity, people must be given the option to work for less pay or more dangerous conditions. It's like saying they must be left the option to shoot themselves in the head. NOBODY would choose to be without union representation making a fully informed and uncoerced decision.
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Mark Saulys - I couldn't agree more! John Brennan is absolutely the LAST guy that should be running the CIA, let alone advising King Obama.
Is that guy a murderous spook from Central Casting or what? Lied repeatedly about torture and rendition and the drone strikes. Wrote the manual on drone strikes. Innocent bystanders outnumber intended targets at least 10 to 1. Trying to paint a picture opposite his true self to the public with plenty of help from Feinstein.
Disgusting mass murderous, fraudulent pigs!
We would consider it barbaric beyond anything if muslims did that to christians.
Outback says "You're right about that penchant our species has for fouling our own nest. If you get around to reading "Collapse", that's a central theme."
I read that book. What an eye opener. And one point from it I recall noting is that in these collapsing civilizations who'd orchestrated their own demise, the only "advantage" of being rich in the end was being the last to perish... an "advantage" many would bypass if given the choice. And it certainly reinforced the anger and frustration I feel here in southwestern Oregon, over the clearcut marring such large patches of land. It is an eyesore, and for me it always brings that book to mind. - Alice I.W.
2950 - You're right of course. The population at large, both here and in Israel, support some sort of reasonable settlement of the Palestinian situation, but Bibi and the boys, along with AIPAC and the Neocons inside the beltway won't hear of it. I think it gets back to the concept (was it you or Palendromedary that first voiced it here?) that we must maintain a level of turmoil in the Middle East to justify our obscene military expenditures.
As for drone warfare, my take on it is that the military is going to be hard pressed to get even volunteers from the rust belt after this past decade of brutality to our own troops, setting aside the civilian toll. The number of disabled and traumatized is staggering. Multiple tours in hell. And with all the bad press about the large amount of un-prosecuted sexual abuse to women in the military, I think we'll see their numbers shrinking dramatically. So drones are the wave of the future I guess. I'd bet we're working on drones the size of killer bees in some top secret lab somewhere. Won't that be fun! Drop a couple tons of them from the belly of a stealth bomber and have a real turkey shoot....
Damien says "Hey, AliceinWonderland, check out Oliver Stone's docu-film The Secret History of the United States where he actually talks about Kennedy and his foreign policy."
My husband googled it, and found they let you watch three episodes for free... long enough to get 'cha hooked! Anyway it seems like the sort of thing I'd like to have as well as watch, so we'll try buying a copy via Amazon. Thanks for telling me about it. - Aliceinwonderland
Maybe it's time to take a hard look at why we need these drones to begin with. We are essentially using them to fight a Fatwa passion declared by the World Islamic Front in response to their perception that we Americans are OCCUPYING their holy places. As a consequence they have vowed to fight us until there is no more tumult or oppression.
This OCCUPATION is all about the greed and power of a few and our addiction to their oil. Rid ourselves of this addiction and we rid ouselves of our unaffordable military protection for the House of Saud, Exxon Mobil, and our foolish empire....and guess what, it would end the innocent death by drones. Environmentally do we have a choice anyway?
Our support for Israel of course is also part of their outrage. It seems the Israeli people face the same problem we face here in the U.S...... the majority is in favor of policy that minority power denies. Polls show that most Israeli's support a Palestinian State. As usual the majority is right.
Nochos- I read H.S Thompson's "Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas" many years ago and still laugh out loud when I think of parts of it;-) Haven't read "The Curse Of Lano", though. Maybe I'll put it on my Kindle wish list.
You're right about that penchant our species has for fouling our own nest. If you get around to reading "Collapse", that's a central theme.
I envy your FL weather. It hasn't been above 40 here in Northern Idaho for months, and that was a heat wave. Gardens are short lived here - I tried to grow some potatoes last spring and even they didn't make it:-( Maybe if I'd watered them ....
drones:
how liberals wage war: their killing accomplished remotely, safely far away from any combat zone, so no blood spatters upon the chic clothing of the killers
The APT: American Political Terms:
http://chenangogreens.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id...
Yes it can seem pretty "doom and gloom" at times - OUTBACK - especially if you don't step away, smoke a funny cigarette and smell the flowers.
Gardening is one of my favorite pass times for relaxing. My wife and I love to grow plants that are native to our area (Florida), as well as growing herbs and vegitables. Native gardening attracts and supports wildlife, uses waaaay less irragation, and does not require the use of posionous chemical fertilizers and pesticides.
Absolutly...mixing in some fiction writing also helps us escape - for a moment - from all the mucky muck; it can even help us manage our own lives better. Two of my favorite fiction books were written by Hunter S. Thompson, "The Curse Of Lano", and "Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas". In my opinion both those books expose the soft under belly of societies queer social norms that keep us oppresed.
I have not read the books you are talking about...I have been looking for some insite as to why we - man, the person and not the basic animal - behaives the we do. So much destruction, So much waste...No other species on the face of the Earth past or present has been so self destructive...We certainly could learn from the smaller brain beast. The ONLY necessities any species needs in order to survive - aside from procreating - is clean water, clean air, and clean food. We have fucked all that up really fast!
Nachos - Your current read sounds interesting. And I can see what you're saying about the reverse time travel. If I ever re-read that book I may give it a try that way. No, I've read none of Zinn's other books, though I did catch the video "Moving Train". It was a real loss when he went; there are so few like him. There are so many good books out there to read. When I retired about four years ago I dove right in, but I found myself fixated on books addressing our current social problems (Chomsky, for example) and got pretty depressed. That caused me to defocus a little and start reading stuff that might help explain the underlying causes of why we behave the way we do. Three good books addressing that are Christopher Boehm's "Heirarchy in the Forest" http://www.amazon.com/Hierarchy-Forest-Evolution-Egalitarian-Behavior/dp... and Jared Diamond's great duet "Guns, Germs and Steel" and "Collapse" http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&f.... It wouldn't surprise me if you had read them. I don't know if any of this stuff has given me cause for optimism, however. Right now I'm giving my poor, tired head a break and reading fiction;-) Anyway, I've been enjoying your comments, wit and humor here, along with that of many others. It's nice to discover a gathering of so many folks with the light on upstairs.
ALICEINWONDERLAND says; "The plutocracy gets the upper hand, then the 'common' people gain leverage, than it's the plutocracy again, then the people again...every eight years...And we humans think we are smarter than neanderthals?!
As Danniel Quinn says in his book "Ishmael";
With Man Gone,
Will There
Be Hope
For Gorilla?
With Gorilla Gone,
Will There
Be Hope
For Man?