Tortilla Heaven was a good movie...I supposed if I had a tomato that looked like Jesus they would have to make a movie...Tomato Heaven. But, of course, everyone knows that the world is going to end this year, 2012...so what's a little radioactive poisoning that will cause cancer in a few years? Praise Jesus, Raptor Jesus! We all gonna die!

Natural gas is the way to go until sun and wind become afforable in about twenty years. We have tons of it in North America and it is clean and safe.

What the hell are you Palin? A left over from the Weathermen? The SDS? The SLA?

Get this through your head, you, me or any group/s united or not will NEVER I repeat NEVER pyshically overthrow any government that may come out of Washington. I don't care how many guns you feel secure with...Ya ain't gonna out gun them. Get that through your head.

Half the GNP of this country goes to the military, that oh by the way is now a mercenary force, but you think that hanging on to that deer deer gun is going to keep the nasty government troops from your door. Yeah, good luck with that.

You rail that one is just as good as another. Really? Do you believe that?????? So you're prepared to say that things wouldn't be fundimentally different if McCarthy had been elected, or if Nixon had been seen for his true colors before he came into power. You're willing to say the eighty's would have been just as grey if Carter had been reelected or if G. Hart or Dukakis had prevailed in that period of time? You're willing to once again split a liberal ticket like the Gore/Bush stupidity? Do you really believe things would be as bad as things are now if the Bushshit/Chimmey sweeper inc, hadn't moved in? Do you?

If you do, you're even a bigger fool then you've shown youself to be on this form with your silly gun rights rants.

Interesting how Republicans think. Some Saudis crash into the World Trade Center, they attack Iraq. The billionaires and the banksters crash the economy, they trash the middle class. Romney and some other Right Wingers fraudulently vote, they take away voting rights from millions of OTHER Americans. Go figure.

The gang that couldn't shoot straight.

Maybe one of your tomatoes will look like Jesus and we'll know the end of days has come.....Our days anyway

Thom's point is so on. I don't know about Anaheim, but this is one of those hot summers like back in the '60s when urban people's tempers flared with all the stress that was on them. We will see a spike in crime. Just the mayhem in the theater in Aurora has people buying guns like crazy. That's a ratcheting-up of paranoia.

So do we blame Republicans? Yes, in so many ways, and I was a Republican. But I think of Reagan as the P.R. man for anti-government libertarianism. The actual movers and shakers of the Ayn Rand psycho-worship were Alan Greenspan and Larry Summers, who even guided Clinton's economic faux-pax with free trade, deregulation of Wall Street, NAFTA and all that. That was all libertarian thinking. Wall Street was playing with derivatives in what Greenspan thought of as "financial innovation." This free-wheeling, all-things-are-legal invention of swaps seemed like it was magic. Money coming out of thin air. And that's what it really was. Now, the middle class is 40% poorer than it was when Bush2 began.

But a lot of Americans -- and particularly Republicans under Foxnosis -- do not really understand what happened. Thom does. Thom saw Citizens United coming ten years ago. He was smelling that bad boy before it came to fruition. Americans have been swindled but don't understand how, despite clear-as-day movies like "Inside Job" and books galore about the Wall Street wealth transfer machine.

Now the 1% are buying Washington. And if Republicans with their robo-signer Rmoney take over in January, we are in for a helluva ride. These pseudo-tea party non-representatives are running hell-bent for economic Armageddon thinking they are "patriots." And 26 billionaires are buying the politcal auction, funding 80% of it in the massive pay-to-play legalized bribery machine. Once the rug has been pulled out from under the middle class, desperate people will do desperate things.

As Obama whispered to the Russian diplomat, in January he will be a lame-duck, free to make his own decisions. And the GOP knows it. They know they could lose their majority on the Supreme Court. They have a now-or-never ends-justify-the-means desperation to them. They will do anything short of assassination to see that they gain control of Washington NOW. Obama MUST be defeated in the GOP playbook of cheater's tricks to rig this election.

I see Obama's unfettered opportunity to shape-shift from Lincoln into some composite of the two Roosevelts. He must take on Wall Street like Teddy and stimulate the middle class like Franklin. He must be the Occupy President. Tall order. We do not have the mass movement we need as yet. And outside of that, people will get crazy.

I object strenuously to being monitored and spyed upon by my own government. I am squeeky clean, and relatively boring to boot. But I don't like the idea of my privacy being violated this way. The only true privacy left is the U.S.P.S. and the lovely republican congress is doing their best to eliminate that, and give it over to private corporations. We've all been so comfortable and complacent for so very long. What can we do now? Is it all lost forever, or is there a chance we can restore our Freedoms? Please nobody say "civil war", because THAT IS NOT AN OPTION.

Guns are merely a tool. They don't actually "kill" anybody. People kill people. While England proudly toots their murder by gun rate is down to 1%; they fail to tell you that their murder by fire-poker/bludgeoning rate has increased. Personally I'd rather face a bullet than be bludgeoned to death. If you're worried about guns & the people who are murdered by use of them, maybe the conversation would be more constructive if we all talked about "mental health care" in America. Why does it take 6 months or longer to get an appointment with a counselor who "charges according to what you can afford". Where do these ill people turn when they are having a crisis or mental breakdown? Who or What agency is there for them? To help them, to talk them off the ledge, so to speak. We all cry when people are murdered, not just the politicians.

The police are just creating more violence. They don't discourage it, they help make it worst. There are good cops too, but the bad ones exert the forces and things get out of hand.

When people are backed into a corner by someone who wants to kill them, they have no other choice but to defend themselves in any way they can.

Yes, war is hell! But, we didn't start this war...they did. And the result of the war, that they started, will be the eventual deaths of many people. It is a life or death struggle for survival...and we don't have much time left. Some already lost their time and are dead already because of the lack of health care. Many people will starve or die of the stresses from lack of food and shelter. Some will just commit suicide.

What is happening in other countries will happen here, eventually. When this nation's financial system and rule of law (political and legal systems) become so badly corrupted that there is only a choice of a ruing elite tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum for a President and/or Congress, there is no hope left for "fixing" the system using the existing corrupt system of democracy.

And when violent outbreaks by police against the citizens occur, people will either cower down in that corner and suffer indignity and humiliation and/or let the police shoot them in the back of the head without a struggle.

People in Nazi Germany were manipulated to the point that if they eventually realized that Hitler and his regime were monsters, they eventually became to afraid to rebel or even to speak out. No one then, thought it would be a good idea to use their voting system to make things better. By that time, of course, their system of democracy didn't exist anymore. They were afraid of being shot in the streets or carted of to the gas chambers, themselves.

Remember Hitler got many of his best ideas of eugenics from the US. He was also helped to tabulate his population using IBM Card Tabulators (precursors to modern day computers). --read Edwin Black's books or watch YouTube lectures by Edwin Black.

I wonder if some of those cops involved in shooting that unarmed man in the back of the head in Anaheim had done a tour of duty in the Middle East. Many of our trained murderer-assassins that murder people in the streets (or in their beds) of Baghdad or Kabul often get jobs as policemen in the US when they return. Not only are we getting mentally deranged psycho killers from the 911 wars patrolling our streets, but we are now getting armed drones flying in our skies just itching to splat some unarmed Americans in our streets or in our homes.

Don't make the mistake of thinking we're different or we are just too modern and civilized for this to happen to us like it did in Nazi Germany...or we are too exceptional...or The Flying Spaghetti Monster, or other nonsensical Supreme Being is protecting us because we are special.

Things got really violent a number of times in our history and many people got killed but had they not rebelled, we would never have had a middle class or safety nets designed to keep people from starving...we would all have been, for at least the whole 20th century, peons and paupers dying and starving in the streets while the ruling elite p!$$ed on us whenever they felt like it.

That is beginning to happen again and unless we fight back there will never again be a relatively cozy and safe country for the majority of the people. Our system is too corrupted to be able to use it to make changes for our good anymore. Democracy is dead in the US...voting is futile. Folly, Folly, Folly! The only way is to look at what was needed in the past in the US, and in other countries, to effect change on a corrupt system that has rigged the smoke-and-mirrors, bait-and-switch voting system and political structure.

It is going to take a lot more than just a Presidential candidate or Congressmen/women to worry about being elected or reelected...because they already know who it is that determines their fate...the one's with all the money. Even if our voting system was not rigged by hacked electronic voting machines, or weeding out those most likely to vote for a particular candidate through various methods, the politician knows that it is the money that gets him/her elected/reelected.

You better believe it! Especially, given the way Obama and other authorities turned a deaf ear to the OWS movement.

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