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Why should Vermont wait until the U.S. Supreme Court announces its decision on ObamaCare before putting their own health insurance system in place? If SCOTUS strikes ObamaCare down, it will be on the basis of what the federal government is allowed to do, but state governments supposedly have stronger rights to govern. The only things the states can't do are the things the U.S. Constitution says explicitly that they can't do, mostly making war and regulating trade.
I voted yes,but I am ever the optimist. It will take getting rid of the radicals in the House, which will be no easy task considering all the Super Pac money that will spread dis information, distortions and outright lies during the election year. It will take real grass roots action to get a majority back in the House and retain or increase the Democratic majority in the Senate.
Thom I tuned into KTALK and you are no longer there. I do not get free speech TV here in LA county with Direct TV
Hitler was only following his "beliefs" too, huh! Yeah, like we need yet another Rajneesh to set us all straight, eh? Neale Donald Walsch...just another guy who thinks he finds God in the midst of life's turmoil who then tries to sell (literally..his books, etc) ideas to everyone else. He may have some good ideas, which aren't new, but he lost me at ...God. I am not into superstition. Superstition never solves real problems..although it may fool some people some of the time. Another "cult" in the making? Probably...what the heck, why not? All those other major religions were cults at one time too.
Well, Clarissa Smith, I do sincerely HOPE that your hope is not in vain. I am routing for your hope. I guess if the people were bright enough, all the money in China couldn't BUY the elections. In fact, one time in our history, we (that is those in power in the US at the time) had all the money in China when MacArthur had Yamashita's driver tortured and the US recovered much of the stolen southeast asian gold and jewels the Japanese stole prior to and during WWII.* But as Forest Gump would say..."stupid is as stupid does". And stupid has let a few cunning people rob them out of house and home.
We need to smarten up and use every tactic we can to gain back our dignity and our very lives. It really is a life or death ordeal for many of us...just ask the hundreds of thousands who are dying of treatable diseases but who can't afford the exorbitant healthScare insurance premiums (and even then these "insurance" companies try to cheat us out of their obligations to pay).
We can keep doing the same useless things, or look back into our history and see what worked and what didn't. Voting seems to work ok for a while until the cunning rig things their way...after all, most did not amass all their wealth and power by playing fair. And it has only been the violence, or threat of violence, against the oppressors that has ever really made any difference.
FDR may get a lot of credit for improving the lives of most Americans but he would never have been able to do it had the nation not gotten close to revolution. Massive strikes, boycotts, protests, Woodie Guthrie's songs, and the threat of Communism were all needed for FDR to have the teeth to bite into the financial criminals of the times. So, yes, we have to vote Obama and for as many non-blue-dog Democrats into Congress as we can get...but it is going to take a lot more than that when the system is controlled by big money and politicians, of all stripes, are dangling from the casino capitalist's marionette strings.
I also like Obama a great deal...except I feel embarrassed for him and the rest of us who voted for him because he, for whatever reason, is not playing the part of President that most of us had hoped for. And that is a very big reason why HOPE is such a wimpy word. I HOPE I win the lottery. I HOPE I, and my loved ones, live forever. I HOPE that people would stop killing and harming other people. I HOPE that people would stop stealing from those who can least afford to be stolen from. It's ok to HOPE but that just doesn't work.
* I suspect that those in power during the 30s knew quite well that Japan had been looting, hording, and during WWII burying the Golden Lily treasure in the Philippines and that they knew that going to war against Japan, and winning, would make it possible for the US to grab a lot of that wealth. The US certainly did not return any of it back to China or any of the other Asian countries it was originally stolen from. Japan, after the war and the US became partners in crimes sharing in the booty stolen from Japan's western neighbors.
http://mydd.com/users/indepenergy/posts/golden-lily-how-the-cia-funded-i...
They deserve a sample of what they are doing to their customers, or should I say victims. Then they deserve a nice, long jail term.
600% raise?.... It's called "winning ugly," no dignity, only bloated shame! What do 1%er's like him deserve? The very least, a pre Reagan tax rate, it's the only chance, for now anyway, to recycle the loot back into the society that created it, and where it can do some good....... authentic trickle down.
I've heard much jocularity and understandable scorn for the Republican Clown Show from my fellow Liberals. But I haven't heard enough concern about the fact that no matter how unpopular the Republican candidates might be. Or how obviously toxic their policies are. They will be the ones who COUNT THE VOTES in the majority of States, due in fact, to 29 million of "us" who voted for Barack Obama staying home in 2010, because we were "disappointed"! Now if we even can vote they may not be counted! I'd like to hear Thom start to bring this up among his fellow Liberal talk show hosts, including those on MSNBC.
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I think everyone should know that J. Walter Thompson, Ford Motor's advertising agency, in New York,is preparing to out source jobs to India. As we speak, observers are learning the jobs of anyone who is a paper pusher, accounting jobs. Those jobs will be sent to India as soon as the next fiscal quarter. Although it hs being kept hush hush, it h has spread Lincoln Division's agency in Detroit, at Team Detroit.
http://www.teamdetroit.com/
While the CEO has recently told Team Detroit employees that there were going to do some off shore work, they do not understand that the Indian person who is watching them work, will be taking their job from them. These are decent paying pasitions within Team Detroit. These people will be laid off or fired as soon as the observers as soon as they learn those jobs. We should let Alan Mulally know that this is not acceptable
Here is something to ponder over,we humans have fallen so far into DUALITY thinking . For insistence our penchant for ,our insistence upon,comparisons,and our constant need to characterize something as better or worse higher or lower good or bad demonstrates how far into DUALITY we have fallen;who deeply into separatism we have submerged.
In highly evolved civilizations the level of a society,s advancement is reflected inevitably ,in the degree of its duality thinking.Social EVOLUTION IS DEMONSTRATED BY MOVEMENT TOWARDS UNITY,NOT SEPARATISM.
Unity is the truth.Separatism is the illusion.As long as society sees itself as separate-a series or collection of separate units-it lives in the illusion.
All of life on our planet is built on separatism;based on duality.
Humanity is so in denial of who we are and what we are doing here so caught up in the illusion that we cant even see past it look at the way we are treating our planet using all its natural resources,in the last 40 years we have used more resources than the last 40 000 years look at the abuse of our children in many of our homes ,why can we not see this?we do see this but we do not believe it .
We are so caught up in the illusion so deep we go ,and we must for the illusion to continue,this is the DIVINE DICHOTOMY.
We must deny our divinity if we are continuing to become divine,but we cannot become what we already.
Acceptance is for those who choose for the illusion to end.
We are one with each other and one with god ,that is the problem here ,that nothing is good enough and we where born imperfect we even have insane religions that tell us we are all sinners at birth,do you have any idea how this single thought perpetrated by organized religion effects our planet .
People with low self esteem rob others of theirs,people who do not love themselves cannot love others.People who see themselves as unworthy see others as unworthy .The key message of organized religion is not joy,innocence,and self celebration,but fear,guilt,and self-denial and these are the people that we trust with the future of our planet.
People its time to take back our future NOW ,responsible evolving humans could choose to do this and we all have a part to play because its not working what we are doing here ,and it can never work.
The banksters are only following their beliefs ,beliefs create behaviors ,what we could do with is a set of new beliefs to turn the world right side up,over at The global conversation.com this is exactly what we are doing.
namaste everyone.
People who don't like the tag LIBERAL : what's wrong with them? Do they secretly hate being kind and generous? I don't really think Norman Goldman does hate that. But what's wrong with him? Doesn't he have a dictionary, to clearly define LIBERAL?? I tell ya folks, you easily can. It's even clearer than mountain water! Just click my avatar and look up the stuff under my profile. Everything's there -- just my stuff on Thom's homepage....
Good grief, how would we fight those Wall Street gangsters, if we hate our own liberal guts?!
Health care, no! The way we are going, it won't be long before policemen, firemen, city workers, animal control, lifeguards, no body, will respond to help unless you have hot cash waiting in the palm of your hand.
Expanding to cradle to grave medicare makes the most sense for a timely and efficient way to finance healthcare, but I think the great state of Vermont will go down in the history books as the domino that starts the state by state single payer conversion to sanity. God bless them!
Norman yesterday added (and here comes your point Palindromedary) : to him the terms Republican and Democratic would say something. And here he's wrong again and your critic is actually right, Palindromedary: We have serious problems with appointed blue-dog candidates as well. But to what extend is President Obama a blue-dog? I don't know... maybe even I have one or two tiny blue-dog-blood-drops in my veins.... Whatever, liberal is precisely defined and has a clearly positive meaning. Whereas a member of the Democratic Party can be an asocial heel as well. Anybody wanna learn what liberal means? Just click my avatar and go to the stuff under my profile -- here on Thom Hartmann's homepage.....
The other day we had that Texan attorney here, who felt like it was dangerous to have the trained killers of our armed forces at home right now. Shipping them to the kangaroos didn't make sense and this was the reason why I felt, lefties where trashing him to quick for that. Because now it does make sense, in case that attorney should be right.
How much does our President hate being dependent on corporate money? I don't know, but I heard even Newt Gingrich talking about he wouldn't like that as Congressman. Because it sucks, if all the time you have to be after the money and find people who finance your work. So why should our President like being dependent on corporate money?
I like President Obama and I think he is honest.
I have plenty of hope, because the GOP is so extremely paranoid these days. They scare their voters away and this might get ourselves the most progressive Congress we've ever seen in our lifetime! This is a chance to really change the country gravely and bring it on a progressive path. A liberal/ progressive/ Keynesian dominated Congress would cut the president office's power radically down -- and really ought to. Even if Mitt Romney was the president, instead of Barack Obama, he wouldn't be able to attack Iran. No, as I feel, the first thing they would vote on would be, taking away his right to decide on war and peace. Only Congress is supposed to decide that!What else would Congress do? I tell you, Wall Street would be severely scared..... Congress can arrest anybody and I like that! They make the laws for what crime we go to prison and I like that! Right now it doesn't work, because of all those goofy Republicans and blug-dogs. That is our problem, not the president. Even Adolph Hitler couldn't rule against a 100% liberal United States Congress -- it wouldn't work. He would just bawl about the house, but it wouldn't help him.
What else would a progressive Congress do? Supreme Court would change -- I thought that over : why not let the American people vote judges in -- every other midterm election? Just add another column to the midterm ballot. That would mean, they stay in office for 8 years at the most.
There's your kind of American dream, Palindromedary. If it won't come true at all, cuz I am overestimating the intelligence of the average American voter, we can still be depressed in November and bury ourselves in music and be happy again. But why give up now, while Romney's insanity gives so much hope?
My eyes scan pretty fast and can tell advertising spam in no time. Keep trying to spam, although it's useless. I flag this for the admin.....
Lobbying (also lobby) is the act of attempting to influence decisions made by officials in the government, most often legislators or members of regulatory agencies. Lobbying is done by many different types of people and organized groups, including individuals in the private sector, corporations, fellow legislators or government officials, or advocacy groups (interest groups). Lobbyists may be among a legislator's constituents, meaning a voter or bloc of voters within his or her electoral district, or not; they may engage in lobbying as a business, or not. Professional lobbyists are people whose business is trying to influence legislation on behalf of a group or individual who hires them. Individuals and nonprofit organizations can also lobby as an act of volunteering or as a small part of their normal job (for instance, a CEO meeting with a representative about a project important to his/her company, or an activist meeting with his/her legislator in an unpaid capacity). Governments often define and regulate organized group lobbying that has become influential.The ethics and morality of lobbying are dual-edged. Lobbying is often spoken of with contempt, when the implication is that people with inordinate socioeconomic power are corrupting the law (twisting it away from fairness) in order to serve their own conflict of interest. But another side of lobbying is making sure that others' interests are duly defended against others' corruption, or even simply making sure that minority interests are fairly defended against mere tyranny of the majority. For example, a medical association, or a trade association of health insurance companies, may lobby a legislature in order to counteract the influence of tobacco companies, in which case the lobbying would be viewed by most people as justified (duly defending against others' corruption). The difficulty in drawing objective lines between which lobbyists are "good lobbyists" and which ones are "bad ones" is compounded by the cleverness with which lobbyists or their clients can speciously argue that their own lobbying is of the "good" kind. At heart, the effort to influence legislation is a power struggle. As in other forms of power struggle, such as war or law enforcement, motives range from predation to self-defense to fighting for justice, and the dividing line between predation and justice is subject to rationalization.
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I notice that you have the "T" at the beginning of your quote of Judicial Powers in brackets (at about 6:55 in the video)... that is because it is common courtesy when interupting a quote to indicate so by changing the case of the first letter (as though it started the sentence) when it does NOT start the sentence. What does this mean.... it means that YOU quoted the Constitution wrong/ incorrectly, or at best... only partially. You implied that the Constitutional Powers of the Supreme Court are ALL subjective to the Congress when indeed the sentence you use DOES state that (in part)... but, the sentence before it does NOT!
"In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction."
Now, that does NOT say subjective or regulated by Congress.... it says ORIGINAL JURISDICTION. (BTW I capitalize for emphasis not yelling....)
The full quote (that would NOT have backed your line of thinking, so hence was..... modified) should be.....
" In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make."
That means that the Supreme Court has TWO powers directly mentioned in the Constitution.... Appellate and Original Jurisdiction. The way to tell when which should apply is to determine what the case is about and who brings it. And since the case in debate involves States.... it would seem that the Original Power clause would be applied (that's the one you failed to mention).
in a dr. evil bankster kind of way the board members are loving the ceo. because he has artificially driven down the stock which mr and ms normal want to sell, sssooooo dr. evil share holder now buys up mr and ms normal's shares at the reduced rate. ttttthhhhhheeeennn just act out a few sound buisness policies and the value will shoot up instantly.
That's how a bankster EARNS 7.5 million this year.
I've been wanting to "rant" back at you ever since I heard your rant. You have either ignored or not read John Marhall's logic. JUst for the record, here is a condensation:
1. Constitution is the supreme law of the land. Constitution says this about itself - See Article VI Paragraph 2.
2. One responsibility of the courts is to ascertain what the law is and how it is to be applied..
3. No law passed by congress or by the states may supercede the supreme law of the land.
4, Therefore, the SCOTUS (and other courts) can determine that a law is contrary to the constitution and therefore be null and void.
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I can understand your anger about the Citizens United case. It is constitutionally correct but, I agree, it is bad law. Would you like to see Roe v. Wade nullified via nullification of judicial review? Seems to me that having the court decide whether laws are constitional based on actual cases (not arbitrary review) is an appropriate function - otherwise the Legislatures (Federal and State) would be the absolute authorities. If this were the case, we would be exposed to mob rule which our founders wished to forstall.
The US is a representative democracy and a republic. It is not and should not be a mobocracy.
By the way, based on my understanding of the Constitution and some case law (I took university-level courses in Con Law), I think that this Healthcare law (PACA) is not constitutional. I agree we need Medicare part E, for Everybody, byt I think the best way to do this is through a Constitution Ammendment which authorises Congress to prohibit private healthe insurance confiscate the funds in the existing plans and establish a national single-payer system,
We have the same thing in the U.S. around Mount Shasta, California. The people living under the mountain with lots of gold are called -- wait for it --Lemurians. Not from Madagascar. What causes these odd beliefs is that lenticular clouds form over the mountain that look like disks, early movie form martian space ship like discs. Currently the ski resort there is loaded with fresh snow. Beautiful country. Whatever brings tourists to rural areas is a local economic positive.