Hi Clarissa, I know a thing or two about selling. Rule 1. Don't call your prospect stupid, talk down to him, or make him/her feel uncomfortable. Rule 2. Your prospect has the right to say no. Tell him/her so up front. If your prospect doesn't buy your product or idea, it's probably because he/she doesn't understand the benefits. Rule 3. Never, Never, Never, allow a prospect to say "let me think about it". Find out what they want to "think about" and answer any questions raised. Once you've answered all their questions, Yes or No is the only response to accept.
Use the above principals to sell health care, and you'll be successful.
ps, I like your musical soliloquy. It's educational.
How are the Republicans going to get elected now that the truth is out? What a silly question, they'll get elected the same way they have for the last 30+ years. They know it isn't about getting constituents informed, or get them to buy into their policies. No all they have to do is two simple things, make their candidate "feel good" to vote for, and the other is to get the informed voter to buy into the fact that he can either vote for the lesser of two evils or not bother voting, in the latter case they win a vote they wouldn't have.
In the world of today, there are a lot of people wanting to feel good. They want Gas Guzzlers and cheap gas, they want an environmentally safe world (not one plagued with pollution), they want free medical care, etc etc. So the Republicans tell them, they'll get gas down below $3.00/gallon (feels good), they tell people to ignore science all is OK (feels good), they say its cheaper to get your own medical insurance if you want it (feels good). Its not about reason, it never has been, and as the world around us gets more and more bleak, people will vote for the charlatans because the easy answers feel good. Coupled with the people who know its all BS and enough of them figure the heck with it, the counter candidate has problems too, why bother.
The left better figure this out now, and figure out how to make their policies "feel good", not just logical and reasonable. Would help if they stopped trying to pander to the right too, makes them feel useless.
Backward Republican logic: When you give facts, you're a despicable liar. --Peter Ferrara Any ad that quotes what I said is a lie. --Newt Gingrich John Kennedy the Catholic presidential candidate said religious people shouldn't be in government. --Rick Santorum
I was reading how Pres Kennedy avoided a war with Cuba /Russia > aka Cubam missile crisis . ALL his advsors & generals were beating the war drums ! Yet JFK stood strong against them and saved millions of lives in the process. We must make sure Obama does the same Speak out now please www.whitehouse.gov www.congress.gov Taking Action works if enough folks care
Its up to voters who are smart well informed , read and can think critically. Are they in the minority ? I think they are . I sure hope I am wrong . Fox Beck Hannity Rush Ryan Cantor McConnell and 800 con radio talk shows have incredible power to mislead millions.
No one Pres can save the middle class. Obama can make a good start IF GOP Baggers do not run / own Senate & Congress . If so country will remain in a stalemate slugging along bit by bit. On bright side Some bright signs are appearing but Mitt Ryan GOP can repeal them and take us back to same old GOP wealth favoring toxic policies that led to global edge of a 1929 depression, more corp cuts- more deregulation & greed.. More power on Wall St . Bush admin lied us into the Iraq war- killing,maiming, wasting trillions Mitt is very vague Makes no real commitments to Americans Mitts Bain Capital did not create jobs ..they fired people and took away pensions Guess who insured those pensions ? Taxpayers did under the PBGC . GOP & Mitt say they want small gov't unless it enriches or helps them. Mitts Bain used 'Leveraged buyouts' ( using others people money - to buy Co's . Mitts Bain drove several of those Co into bankruptcy soon after Bain got their 100's of millions. in fees. Small business creates jobs NOT Wall St Not the top 1 % Bush tried to scam us on that one We can not fall for that greedy scheme again Or can we ?
We have a very uncomfortable history, especially in the last 30 or so years, of politicians meekly trying to get the wealthy to act responsibly...and all they get in return is a good back-stabbing. The wealthy take the people's money (through taxes...because it is the people who pay the taxes...not the wealthy who use loop holes...and buy off Congress for tax favoritism) and then give the people the shaft. They always get what they want and then renege on the deal...if there ever was a real quid pro quo to begin with. The people are made to think that there is a quid pro quo...but are always screwed in the end.
With Paul Ryan and Romney appearing together as usual best buds, I think there is a sinister plan here. If the extreme right actually gets to take back the White House with Romney and Ryan, they can claim a mandate exists to enact Ryan's extreme budgets plans immediately and they will. As far as they're concerned they probably wont win anyway, so why not go for the crazy ticket and go for bust. If they win they win big. Plus I'm sure they already are planning some pretty horrific campaign tactics, so who knows, they may get what they want. Reducing the majority of Americans to the Neo-Peasant and Neo-Surf. Think people are dying early now, if the Republicans win this election with their current mind set, kiss health care good-bye, EPA gone, public Education vanish, Social Security something we talk about as having once had, owning a home... not likely, etc, etc.... Debtor prisons will be back in full force. The war on the poor will be over and it will evolve into the subjugation of the poor. No not in a mere 4 or 8 years, but the table will be set, America as we know it will be completely gone in another 30 - 50 years if the Republicans get their way. Unfortunately they not only don't mind playing dirty, they're good at it, and I don't believe the same of the left.
BTW it would be nice if the Daily Topics for the day got posted prior to the last 10 minutes of the show ;)
I agree that businesses will just pass the "costs" like taxes along to their customers..just like they do everything else...like being on the losing end of a law suit...or disasters. The system is all screwed up to let these psychopaths live high on the hog and make everyone else suffer and pay. What we have here is a failure of capitalism...or as Michael Moore would put it....Crapitalism. Capitalism (aka: Crapitalism) has finally degenerated into a cesspool of ugly and smelly slime....and unless we clean it up the world will end up an infectious, pustuled carrion of degenerated inbred Crapitalist Emperors (picture Baron Harkonnen of Dune) ruling over the starving and dying masses.
Yes, let's tax the Krap out of these Crapitolists and throw most of them into a dark, dank cell...take away their ill-gotten gains to be given back to the people from whence it was stolen.
(sarcasm alert) Who would o' thunk it...the market has come up with a way to deal with the long term solvency of the Social Security system. Long unemployment lowers peak lifetime earnings, thus lowering benefit rates and early death reduces the number of years workers will collect. It's a win-win.
David32, corporations are taxed on their profits, not their revenue. So if they don't gouge their customers, they get taxed little, if they do gouge their customers they get taxed more.
I believe most of them are "bonified psychopath/sociopaths"..not to mention "murderers for profit" of their employees. They gamble on the lives of their employees through something called "Dead Peasants Insurance". These gangsters in a suit and tie take out these insurance policies...betting that you will die....so they (not your relatives) can rake in lots of cash. And these gangsters can increase their odds of a pay off (even after you leave the company) by increasing your stress levels (a major killer) when you are in their employ and then further increase stress levels by laying you off...leaving you, perhaps, without medical insurance for you or your family.
And, typically, you can no longer afford keeping up life insurance payments* so you don't have life insurance. These gangsters are in collusion with the medical/health insurance companies because they can monitor the feedback as to your health and likely-hood of dying (especially if you don't have medical care...no insurance..no money...no medical care). So, these gangsters can rig the game so you will lose and your family will lose.
The family members usually don't even know about the "Dead Peasants Insurance" the company has on their employee, or laid off employee, and even if they did, they would not receive a cent from the company.
They want you, or your surviving relatives, to have no claims on the company..no health insurance...no life insurance..but then they hope you will die so that they can collect on the "Dead Peasants Insurance".
Not all companies do this, I suspect, I really don't know, but usually, when you find one company doing it...if there is a profit to be made in it, all companies will do it.
So when you wonder why these companies, your boss, perhaps, is driving your stress levels up just realize that they may actually be trying to kill you so they can profit off your death.
*When you leave your company, they tell you you can continue the same health insurance coverage, for a short while, you had when you were with the company. But, "these premiums are so expensive" they warn you that "you would be better off finding your own health insurance somewhere else".
Trickle down is yellow rain. I wonder how much of the increased risk of dying younger has to do with having been purposely stressed out with the threat of being laid off or fired if the employee doesn't perform the added work of the employees already laid off...and then...laid off or fired anyway..eventually. Then one's stress is increased by worrying even more and then being less active..physically...and mentally would add to the stress. The stress increases as we become less physical and more worrisome of our situation.
And even if you didn't lose your job and are still employed.. There is a possible insidious plot by some companies to drive people to an early grave. They take out "Dead Peasants Insurance" on their employees and cash in on the benefits when they die...and not giving anything to the relatives of the deceased employee. In most cases, the relatives don't even know about the "Dead Peasants Insurance" policies taken out by the company on the employees.
"Dead Peasants Insurance": The company is gambling that you will die so they can collect. They have an interest in making sure you die as soon as possible. So they raise stress levels (one of the biggest killers) by various means (added work, tighter deadlines, threats of cutting costs, reduced benefits, reduced wages, constant threats of downsizing, really nasty attitude bosses*, etc.). And by the time people lose their jobs, they are so stressed out by the pressures of the company that the added stress of losing your job just might finish them off. And, the companies who bought the "Dead Peasants" insurance can still collect after the employee is no longer employed. Most relatives would never even know the company profited from the death of the employee...and even then they wouldn't get any of the money.
A person's health status is monitored by the company in collusion with the medical/insurance establishment...and any sign of problems...the employer may pressure the employee to quit...or die. And the "Dead Peasants" insurance would be kept in the event the no longer employed, and no longer medically insured, dies so that the company would have a good chance of collecting once the employee dies.
*I suspect that these "really nasty attitude bosses" are really that way not just because they are really nasty attitude normally, although most probably are, but they are actually performing the job they are meant to do...drive you to dying young or quitting. But mostly, to drive up your stress so that you do die young so the companies can cash in on your death through "Dead Peasants Insurance".
The Right Wing canidates are so out of touch with the comon man that they have no concept where the %99 of us are. The never have had food insecurity where we wondered where we will get food for the next meal. They never had to stand in the welfare or unemployment line. They never had to explain to a bill collector that they just dont have the money to pay for that doctor bill right now. This is the reason I think Obama will win. He has lived with catistrophic illness with his mother. He has seen foodstamps putting food on the table. As a comunity activist he saw the pain of the middle and lower classes. Obama isnt perfict.... Wallstreet is doing a good job of buying him, but he is still one of us margomally.
What does it take to get the point across that corporations and businesses DON'T PAY TAXES, THEIR CUSTOMERS PAY THEM. And who are their customers, WE ARE!!!! Raising taxes, closing loopholes is nothing more than a tax increase on the middle class and poor. Big corporations could care less what their taxes are, they just PASS THEM ON TO THEIR CUSTOMERS. Small mom and pop businesses face the same choice as the rest of us, pay taxes or eat. Please stop misleading us by telling us corporations aren't people and then treat them like people when it comes to taxes.
Read exactly how German healthcare works so beautifully (my head's splitting after studying all that, but makes sense!)thomhartmann.com/blog/2012/03/i…
I looked up a few things too. The German system is NOT a socialist system. We shouldn't forget East Germany was communist since WW2 through 1999. And their eastern Government called their system socialistic. Basically government was the only employer, as the only decider to plan and influence the economy. It has clearly shown, this leads to carelessness : nobody feels responsible and motivated. Germans really know what centrally planned economy means. On the other hand, since their Nazi horror, they seem to care more for the weak. The Nazis had felt like only strong people had a right to live, as they had really begun to kill disabled persons. So it looks like the Germans found the middle of the road, after all those bad experiences. It's actually not difficult and means something Ron Paul hates: Government makes rules and watches. It's like, "Okay, you guys may have free market, but you're not allowed to do this and that...." So Congress and government regulate with laws:
You're not allowed to edge grandma out of her health insurance, right after she got cancer
You're not allowed to charge higher premiums from women
You're required to accept and admit everybody who asks you for insurance, ect.
And as I remember now, this was the point where they reformed their system under Merkel: They had had private insurers (above all for freelancers) that where not regulated by government. And those have to follow the rules now too (maybe there's still a difference to 'public' insurers).
The big health insurers, like DAK, are not government enterprises -- they're just regulated by government. I just looked up their term at Wikipedia : "Körperschaft des öffentlichen Rechts mit Selbstverwaltung" -- translated : corporation under public law with autonomous administration.
So there you are. It's not socialist, but it's not libertarian as well. It is free market, regulated by government. This is actually what I had tried to explain to Liberty-First : a free market that is not being regulated goes wrong. Communism and libertarianism both don't work. People tend to cheat and act ruthlessly, so there have to be rules.
So now I have learned, the simple term 'public heathcare' has to be explained. Well, you sound like you already got that point too. As I heard on the radio, parts of Obamacare will come to effect in 2014 and this was supposed to get the private health insurance companies unter public law, without taking away their autonomous administration.
_____________________________________________
All this isn't easily to explain, since common language is so sloppy. It's like calling the piano-forte just "piano". Well, a spinettino is "piano" (silent), while a grand harpsichord is "forte" (loud). The late 1700s invented a keyboard that was able to be played piano and forte, so they called it "piano-forte". But people say just "piano", which actually is nonsense. Wind instruments are messed up too and it's even worse....
Why is it that veterans, senior citizens, the poor, the sick, and students are always the ones to suffer? Why not cut the salaries of those in office? Why not cut the monies to unions, environmentalists, and those that can raise their own money?
Some people will blame unique slots for everything when they are just trying to cover up for a corrupt government that is running out of money.
The documentary series 'Planet Earth' first hit both next-gen formats back in April 2007, featuring the series as it was originally broadcast on the BBC. Distributed by Warner Home Video, that edition won high praise for both its content and its exceptional video quality, and went on to break high-def sales records (as of this writing, it remains the highest grossing high-def release of all time).Now, a second version of 'Planet Earth' is debuting on both Blu-ray and HD DVD: the re-edited version that was seen during the series' US television run. This new edition is being released by The Discovery Channel (which aired 'Planet Earth' in the US), although it seems that the cable network's distribution rights to the series are limited to direct sales via its Discovery Channel Store.
That is the absolute dumbest thing I have ever heard! How do you ignore the fact that Obama ran up more debt that all other presidents COMBINED!!! Come on now! I know its hard to tell the truth when doesn't fit your view. But we are not stupid! We do remember the facts!
Hi Clarissa, I know a thing or two about selling. Rule 1. Don't call your prospect stupid, talk down to him, or make him/her feel uncomfortable. Rule 2. Your prospect has the right to say no. Tell him/her so up front. If your prospect doesn't buy your product or idea, it's probably because he/she doesn't understand the benefits. Rule 3. Never, Never, Never, allow a prospect to say "let me think about it". Find out what they want to "think about" and answer any questions raised. Once you've answered all their questions, Yes or No is the only response to accept.
Use the above principals to sell health care, and you'll be successful.
ps, I like your musical soliloquy. It's educational.
For every complex problem, there is a simple, easy-to-understand, incorrect answer: voting Republican.
Thanks, Maxrot. That was hilarious. I hear it in Jim Ward's impression of Romney's voice too.
How are the Republicans going to get elected now that the truth is out? What a silly question, they'll get elected the same way they have for the last 30+ years. They know it isn't about getting constituents informed, or get them to buy into their policies. No all they have to do is two simple things, make their candidate "feel good" to vote for, and the other is to get the informed voter to buy into the fact that he can either vote for the lesser of two evils or not bother voting, in the latter case they win a vote they wouldn't have.
In the world of today, there are a lot of people wanting to feel good. They want Gas Guzzlers and cheap gas, they want an environmentally safe world (not one plagued with pollution), they want free medical care, etc etc. So the Republicans tell them, they'll get gas down below $3.00/gallon (feels good), they tell people to ignore science all is OK (feels good), they say its cheaper to get your own medical insurance if you want it (feels good). Its not about reason, it never has been, and as the world around us gets more and more bleak, people will vote for the charlatans because the easy answers feel good. Coupled with the people who know its all BS and enough of them figure the heck with it, the counter candidate has problems too, why bother.
The left better figure this out now, and figure out how to make their policies "feel good", not just logical and reasonable. Would help if they stopped trying to pander to the right too, makes them feel useless.
N
Republican logic is double plus good. It has always been that way.
N
Backward Republican logic:
When you give facts, you're a despicable liar. --Peter Ferrara
Any ad that quotes what I said is a lie. --Newt Gingrich
John Kennedy the Catholic presidential candidate said religious people shouldn't be in government. --Rick Santorum
I was reading how Pres Kennedy avoided a war with Cuba /Russia > aka Cubam missile crisis . ALL his advsors & generals were beating the war drums ! Yet JFK stood strong against them and saved millions of lives in the process. We must make sure Obama does the same Speak out now please www.whitehouse.gov www.congress.gov Taking Action works if enough folks care
Its up to voters who are smart well informed , read and can think critically. Are they in the minority ? I think they are . I sure hope I am wrong . Fox Beck Hannity Rush Ryan Cantor McConnell and 800 con radio talk shows have incredible power to mislead millions.
No one Pres can save the middle class. Obama can make a good start IF GOP Baggers do not run / own Senate & Congress . If so country will remain in a stalemate slugging along bit by bit. On bright side Some bright signs are appearing but Mitt Ryan GOP can repeal them and take us back to same old GOP wealth favoring toxic policies that led to global edge of a 1929 depression, more corp cuts- more deregulation & greed.. More power on Wall St . Bush admin lied us into the Iraq war- killing,maiming, wasting trillions Mitt is very vague Makes no real commitments to Americans Mitts Bain Capital did not create jobs ..they fired people and took away pensions Guess who insured those pensions ? Taxpayers did under the PBGC . GOP & Mitt say they want small gov't unless it enriches or helps them. Mitts Bain used 'Leveraged buyouts' ( using others people money - to buy Co's . Mitts Bain drove several of those Co into bankruptcy soon after Bain got their 100's of millions. in fees. Small business creates jobs NOT Wall St Not the top 1 % Bush tried to scam us on that one We can not fall for that greedy scheme again Or can we ?
Tell Obama ' Let all the Bush cuts expire if thats what it takes ' . www.whitehouse.gov 202 456 1111 M-F to 5 pm www.congress.gov
We have a very uncomfortable history, especially in the last 30 or so years, of politicians meekly trying to get the wealthy to act responsibly...and all they get in return is a good back-stabbing. The wealthy take the people's money (through taxes...because it is the people who pay the taxes...not the wealthy who use loop holes...and buy off Congress for tax favoritism) and then give the people the shaft. They always get what they want and then renege on the deal...if there ever was a real quid pro quo to begin with. The people are made to think that there is a quid pro quo...but are always screwed in the end.
With Paul Ryan and Romney appearing together as usual best buds, I think there is a sinister plan here. If the extreme right actually gets to take back the White House with Romney and Ryan, they can claim a mandate exists to enact Ryan's extreme budgets plans immediately and they will. As far as they're concerned they probably wont win anyway, so why not go for the crazy ticket and go for bust. If they win they win big. Plus I'm sure they already are planning some pretty horrific campaign tactics, so who knows, they may get what they want. Reducing the majority of Americans to the Neo-Peasant and Neo-Surf. Think people are dying early now, if the Republicans win this election with their current mind set, kiss health care good-bye, EPA gone, public Education vanish, Social Security something we talk about as having once had, owning a home... not likely, etc, etc.... Debtor prisons will be back in full force. The war on the poor will be over and it will evolve into the subjugation of the poor. No not in a mere 4 or 8 years, but the table will be set, America as we know it will be completely gone in another 30 - 50 years if the Republicans get their way. Unfortunately they not only don't mind playing dirty, they're good at it, and I don't believe the same of the left.
BTW it would be nice if the Daily Topics for the day got posted prior to the last 10 minutes of the show ;)
N
I agree that businesses will just pass the "costs" like taxes along to their customers..just like they do everything else...like being on the losing end of a law suit...or disasters. The system is all screwed up to let these psychopaths live high on the hog and make everyone else suffer and pay. What we have here is a failure of capitalism...or as Michael Moore would put it....Crapitalism. Capitalism (aka: Crapitalism) has finally degenerated into a cesspool of ugly and smelly slime....and unless we clean it up the world will end up an infectious, pustuled carrion of degenerated inbred Crapitalist Emperors (picture Baron Harkonnen of Dune) ruling over the starving and dying masses.
Yes, let's tax the Krap out of these Crapitolists and throw most of them into a dark, dank cell...take away their ill-gotten gains to be given back to the people from whence it was stolen.
A positive spin:
(sarcasm alert) Who would o' thunk it...the market has come up with a way to deal with the long term solvency of the Social Security system. Long unemployment lowers peak lifetime earnings, thus lowering benefit rates and early death reduces the number of years workers will collect. It's a win-win.
David32, corporations are taxed on their profits, not their revenue. So if they don't gouge their customers, they get taxed little, if they do gouge their customers they get taxed more.
I believe most of them are "bonified psychopath/sociopaths"..not to mention "murderers for profit" of their employees. They gamble on the lives of their employees through something called "Dead Peasants Insurance". These gangsters in a suit and tie take out these insurance policies...betting that you will die....so they (not your relatives) can rake in lots of cash. And these gangsters can increase their odds of a pay off (even after you leave the company) by increasing your stress levels (a major killer) when you are in their employ and then further increase stress levels by laying you off...leaving you, perhaps, without medical insurance for you or your family.
And, typically, you can no longer afford keeping up life insurance payments* so you don't have life insurance. These gangsters are in collusion with the medical/health insurance companies because they can monitor the feedback as to your health and likely-hood of dying (especially if you don't have medical care...no insurance..no money...no medical care). So, these gangsters can rig the game so you will lose and your family will lose.
The family members usually don't even know about the "Dead Peasants Insurance" the company has on their employee, or laid off employee, and even if they did, they would not receive a cent from the company.
They want you, or your surviving relatives, to have no claims on the company..no health insurance...no life insurance..but then they hope you will die so that they can collect on the "Dead Peasants Insurance".
Not all companies do this, I suspect, I really don't know, but usually, when you find one company doing it...if there is a profit to be made in it, all companies will do it.
So when you wonder why these companies, your boss, perhaps, is driving your stress levels up just realize that they may actually be trying to kill you so they can profit off your death.
*When you leave your company, they tell you you can continue the same health insurance coverage, for a short while, you had when you were with the company. But, "these premiums are so expensive" they warn you that "you would be better off finding your own health insurance somewhere else".
Trickle down is yellow rain. I wonder how much of the increased risk of dying younger has to do with having been purposely stressed out with the threat of being laid off or fired if the employee doesn't perform the added work of the employees already laid off...and then...laid off or fired anyway..eventually. Then one's stress is increased by worrying even more and then being less active..physically...and mentally would add to the stress. The stress increases as we become less physical and more worrisome of our situation.
And even if you didn't lose your job and are still employed.. There is a possible insidious plot by some companies to drive people to an early grave. They take out "Dead Peasants Insurance" on their employees and cash in on the benefits when they die...and not giving anything to the relatives of the deceased employee. In most cases, the relatives don't even know about the "Dead Peasants Insurance" policies taken out by the company on the employees.
"Dead Peasants Insurance": The company is gambling that you will die so they can collect. They have an interest in making sure you die as soon as possible. So they raise stress levels (one of the biggest killers) by various means (added work, tighter deadlines, threats of cutting costs, reduced benefits, reduced wages, constant threats of downsizing, really nasty attitude bosses*, etc.). And by the time people lose their jobs, they are so stressed out by the pressures of the company that the added stress of losing your job just might finish them off. And, the companies who bought the "Dead Peasants" insurance can still collect after the employee is no longer employed. Most relatives would never even know the company profited from the death of the employee...and even then they wouldn't get any of the money.
A person's health status is monitored by the company in collusion with the medical/insurance establishment...and any sign of problems...the employer may pressure the employee to quit...or die. And the "Dead Peasants" insurance would be kept in the event the no longer employed, and no longer medically insured, dies so that the company would have a good chance of collecting once the employee dies.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/dead-peasant-life-insurance-policies-fair/stor...
*I suspect that these "really nasty attitude bosses" are really that way not just because they are really nasty attitude normally, although most probably are, but they are actually performing the job they are meant to do...drive you to dying young or quitting. But mostly, to drive up your stress so that you do die young so the companies can cash in on your death through "Dead Peasants Insurance".
The Right Wing canidates are so out of touch with the comon man that they have no concept where the %99 of us are. The never have had food insecurity where we wondered where we will get food for the next meal. They never had to stand in the welfare or unemployment line. They never had to explain to a bill collector that they just dont have the money to pay for that doctor bill right now. This is the reason I think Obama will win. He has lived with catistrophic illness with his mother. He has seen foodstamps putting food on the table. As a comunity activist he saw the pain of the middle and lower classes. Obama isnt perfict.... Wallstreet is doing a good job of buying him, but he is still one of us margomally.
We cannot tolerate the intolerant.
I work for a CEO who is a bonified psychopath/ sociopath.
What does it take to get the point across that corporations and businesses DON'T PAY TAXES, THEIR CUSTOMERS PAY THEM. And who are their customers, WE ARE!!!! Raising taxes, closing loopholes is nothing more than a tax increase on the middle class and poor. Big corporations could care less what their taxes are, they just PASS THEM ON TO THEIR CUSTOMERS. Small mom and pop businesses face the same choice as the rest of us, pay taxes or eat. Please stop misleading us by telling us corporations aren't people and then treat them like people when it comes to taxes.
Thank you
Read exactly how German healthcare works so beautifully (my head's splitting after studying all that, but makes sense!)thomhartmann.com/blog/2012/03/i…
I looked up a few things too. The German system is NOT a socialist system. We shouldn't forget East Germany was communist since WW2 through 1999. And their eastern Government called their system socialistic. Basically government was the only employer, as the only decider to plan and influence the economy. It has clearly shown, this leads to carelessness : nobody feels responsible and motivated. Germans really know what centrally planned economy means. On the other hand, since their Nazi horror, they seem to care more for the weak. The Nazis had felt like only strong people had a right to live, as they had really begun to kill disabled persons. So it looks like the Germans found the middle of the road, after all those bad experiences. It's actually not difficult and means something Ron Paul hates: Government makes rules and watches. It's like, "Okay, you guys may have free market, but you're not allowed to do this and that...." So Congress and government regulate with laws:
You're not allowed to edge grandma out of her health insurance, right after she got cancer
You're not allowed to charge higher premiums from women
You're required to accept and admit everybody who asks you for insurance, ect.
And as I remember now, this was the point where they reformed their system under Merkel: They had had private insurers (above all for freelancers) that where not regulated by government. And those have to follow the rules now too (maybe there's still a difference to 'public' insurers).
The big health insurers, like DAK, are not government enterprises -- they're just regulated by government. I just looked up their term at Wikipedia : "Körperschaft des öffentlichen Rechts mit Selbstverwaltung" -- translated : corporation under public law with autonomous administration.
So there you are. It's not socialist, but it's not libertarian as well. It is free market, regulated by government. This is actually what I had tried to explain to Liberty-First : a free market that is not being regulated goes wrong. Communism and libertarianism both don't work. People tend to cheat and act ruthlessly, so there have to be rules.
So now I have learned, the simple term 'public heathcare' has to be explained. Well, you sound like you already got that point too. As I heard on the radio, parts of Obamacare will come to effect in 2014 and this was supposed to get the private health insurance companies unter public law, without taking away their autonomous administration.
_____________________________________________
All this isn't easily to explain, since common language is so sloppy. It's like calling the piano-forte just "piano". Well, a spinettino is "piano" (silent), while a grand harpsichord is "forte" (loud). The late 1700s invented a keyboard that was able to be played piano and forte, so they called it "piano-forte". But people say just "piano", which actually is nonsense. Wind instruments are messed up too and it's even worse....
So I guess that means, realistically, corporations will be paying NO tax should the "official" rate be lowered.
Why is it that veterans, senior citizens, the poor, the sick, and students are always the ones to suffer? Why not cut the salaries of those in office? Why not cut the monies to unions, environmentalists, and those that can raise their own money?
Some people will blame unique slots for everything when they are just trying to cover up for a corrupt government that is running out of money.
The documentary series 'Planet Earth' first hit both next-gen formats back in April 2007, featuring the series as it was originally broadcast on the BBC. Distributed by Warner Home Video, that edition won high praise for both its content and its exceptional video quality, and went on to break high-def sales records (as of this writing, it remains the highest grossing high-def release of all time).Now, a second version of 'Planet Earth' is debuting on both Blu-ray and HD DVD: the re-edited version that was seen during the series' US television run. This new edition is being released by The Discovery Channel (which aired 'Planet Earth' in the US), although it seems that the cable network's distribution rights to the series are limited to direct sales via its Discovery Channel Store.
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That is the absolute dumbest thing I have ever heard! How do you ignore the fact that Obama ran up more debt that all other presidents COMBINED!!! Come on now! I know its hard to tell the truth when doesn't fit your view. But we are not stupid! We do remember the facts!