The thing that is wrong about liberalism and socialism is that it champions wealth confiscation from companies and wealthy people and then gives it to the government who immediately spend it into oblivion.

I would rather get cheated by a corporation because I can choose not to deal with them. But if the government is made all powerful, I am forced to obey with no other choice but to be punished if I don’t want to.

And the government is already sold out to corporate America no matter which party is looting the treasury, so “for-get-about-it”

I’m all for Hollywood liberals paying more in taxes. Especially the ones making $20M for a single movie and demand I drive that piece of crap Chevy Volt. Or some sports athlete making enough to buy a third world country. Ya ….. what about those 1%?

And if liberals want to save the world, let them use their own money. I see all these Hollywood liberal blow-hards advocating more taxes to pay for more government waste, but they never seem to just come out and say, “Hey, I’m donating $10M of my own stash to help government pay down the deficit”.

Socialism VS the 1% = Government total control of everyone and everything. It’s a progressive herding of the population into slavery. I would rather be homeless and free, than a slave to a socialist regime.

If republicans claim to represent religious America...... then letting sick Americans die in order to remove one man from political office is how they, the republicans...... represent religious America. Therefore if religious America votes for these avaricious little monkeys in the fall, it's an American religious tragedy as well.

Keiser Report

Britain has cctv cameras everywhere...on streets...in shops...and now they have something called "FaceWatch" where they monitor everything and everybody all the time. Looks like the TV Show "Person of Interest" is not so far fetched...especially in Britain. If, for example, a woman in a shop claims that she was robbed, she can get on the internet and see a video of herself when she was in the shop to see who else might have been in the shop while she was robbed. Sounds like a neat idea, huh? But I suspect it could be problematic from the privacy standpoint..especially for jealous husbands or wives or nosey neighbors..or even stalkers. It may help prevent people, on the lower level of crime, think twice about doing it. But what about the real problem...banksters stealing bigtime...what is to keep them from ripping people off? Ken Livingston, a British Socialist Politician says..."We need to hang a banker a week until they get the message that they are not going to get away with it anymore".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Ex4okWm-M&feature=channel

And now I see on the local bay area news that a local town is getting some military grade high def (35Mpixels) with IR cameras for their downtown area. One local, entering a store, smugly said "Good! It will keep out the Riff Raff!"

we are attack from every direction ....... union economy polution fema camp etc etc etc

So what is Obamacare but a blatant giveaway to the HealthScare insurance companies and a government enforcement strong arm in ensuring that people pay the price set by the Insurance Companies?

If they had only included an optional government insurance along with the private ones...we would have had an "option" and the private insurance companies would have had some real competition and incentive to keep their prices low. As it is they can set any price they want and we will be forced to pay. The insurance companies may not drop people for preconditions but they can sure raise their prices whenever they want...forcing people who can't afford it into an early grave brought on by extreme poverty and stress through having to pay the prices set by the insurance companies.

It is all a criminal scam and the government is part of it because the government is comprised of bought off politicians.

Yes, I know that part of the plan is ostensibly for the government to assist those too poor to buy the insurance themselves but if you have any savings in the bank, or any assets, they will rob you of what you have left in order to comply and then, maybe, you will have government assisted insurance and by then they will have come up with some brilliant "final solution"...Soylent Green most likely.

I know some older people who had saved up a little over their working lifetimes who had many serious life-threatening diseases and in order for them to get assistance through the California Medi-Cal had to deplete their bank account in order to meet the low-income standard. They were not rich to begin with and now must suffer the degradation of poverty just so they can be covered under the Medi-Cal plan. I suspect the Obamacare will be much the same. They will drive us all into poverty by soaking us with exorbitant insurance bills until we are so poor that the government will help out...yeah, right! Insurance and Credit are the two biggest scamsters we have to defeat...the F and the I in F.I.R.E. economy. The Real Estate has already gone bust..

And speaking of Kenosha....and my extreme hatred of insurance Scamsters (the ones that sell it)...I thought the movie "Thin Ice" was very good..(if you liked "Fargo" you will like this one)...I think of most Insurance people as like the one in this movie. It has a great surprise ending. ..ssshhh!

Of course they would let sick people die if it suits their purpose. They are already doing it. A few more bodies won't bother them.Their overriding goal is to keep all their goodies and power for themselves and to defeat Obama.

OK all you liberal Democrats, get a load of this. The state of Illinois is just about bankrupt because of overspending of the Democrats that have been in total control for the last 10 years. It is so bad that even the DEMOCRAT govenor of the state has finally stated that the party is over. This is what happens if the liberals are allowed to run unchecked. Is this what we want?

Here is the article in today's Chicago Tribune: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/clout/chi-quinns-bad-news-budget-our-rendezvous-with-reality-has-arrived-20120222,0,4043044.story

The GOP is bought by Billionaires, which obviously has been organized by the Koch Brothers. The old GOP is not existing anymore. If they talk about their old Christian values, this doesn't change the fact, that it's mainly the Koch Brother's ideas that coin this party and not those of Jesus. They worship the golden calf, that's all.

YouTube--Young Turks: Koch Brothers Caught On Tape

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P.S.: The origin of the word "CAPITAL" is to look up in Latin dictionaries -- it basically comes from the Latin vocabulary CAPUT. I can look in dictionaries of the 16th, 17th and early 18th century too, which is my special field. Furthermore vocabularies about financial management have very much been coined in the late medieval North Italy, where modern banking started. The complete expression during the early modern age was capital sum (in old German "Haubt=Summa"), the main sum of money to be invested. Ergo, "capital" is a short form of "capital sum". I can quote a few parts from old dictionaries if this should help....

The Jonestown Temple tragedy was a political suicide and should be classified as a CIA-aided OP, not the poor result of a fundamentalist belief system.

Let's give credit where credit is due.

When you examine the facts of the case, there is no way the amount of cyanide which was stored at the compound could have slipped past Guyanan agents. It is a substance which must be signed for when imported. There are no records and no records were found, according to the FBI investigation.

There was a strict clause in the Jonestown Cooperative land lease that prohibited the removal of minerals from the land, which was to be used for agriculture only.

A couple years into the lease, Jones and his officers filed an amendment to their corporate Articles allowing a jewelry cleaning operation to be part of the Temple activities. Yet the amounts of cyanide which were shipped into the Port of Guyana on a monthly basis exceeded what would it take to clean the placer gold of an entire mine for a year.

In the Diaries of Edith Roller, a Bechtel employee with a PhD in English, who moved to the community to teach, she writes several times of Jones' rambling on the ounce price of gold at the ongoing community meetings and radio broadcasts.

Though Jones himself was dying of cancer, he was not necessarily the center of the universe to a number of highly educated persons who believed in living a great social experiment.

Much of the group were on social security and this was their retirement plan.

Once Congressman Ryan was killed by unidentified gunfire at the airstrip, Jones had every reason to believe his group would be hunted into the jungle like animals. If they were caught, then what?

Jones was CIA-supported for the interests of INVESCO for whom he worked in Brazil prior to the liberation of Guyana and prior to founding the People's Temple. The shipments of cyanide to Jones began in 1976 when GHW Bush headed the CIA.

There has since been an INVESCO cyanide spill in the Guyanan jungle as well as the Colorado River.

8/2/1995 Cyanide River Disaster in Guyana

by Roy S. Carson

GEORGETOWN, Guyana -- The leaking dam that poisoned a vast river system in central Guyana was plugged August 24th, but only after hundreds of millions of gallons of deadly cyanide-laced slurry drained for five days from a gold mine's tailings pond into a 50-mile stretch of the Essequibo river, killing fish, domestic animals and wildlife by the thousands. The 600-mile Essequibo was polluted with about 825 million gallons of cyanide-treated wastewater from the huge pond. Cyanide is used to separate fine flakes of gold from other materials in the second stage of the mining process. The solid hydrogen cyanide salt used in gold processing is highly toxic, and the Associated Press reported that it can be deadly in concentrations as small as 2 parts per million.

The mine's owners said there was no major damage done to the river and no evidence of loss of animal or aquatic life in the Essequibo, a claim that few took at face value. A report in the English-speaking nation's major daily newspaper, the Guyana Chronicle, and earlier reports carried by the Associated Press, say shoals of dead fish and hogs had floated downstream on the Essequibo to Bartica, a mining village of 15,000 people some 50 miles south of the mine, South America's largest.

On August 21st, Guyana's President Cheddi Jagan declared a 50-mile stretch of the river a national environmental disaster zone and sought unanimous Parliamentary approval for the action. President Jagan told newsmen last week that it wasn't the first leak of cyanide from the tailings pond. Tailings are chemically -treated debris from the mining process that at Omai were contained in a vast pool of contaminated water the size of a small lake.

"I am indeed alarmed at the repeated incidence of a major spillage at the Omai Gold Mine, just three months after the first reported spillage at the same site," the president said in Georgetown.

"Immedediately, the government dispatched a special team to the site to make an independent assessment of the situation."

A special monitoring team which includes regional authorities has been set up and samples of fish and other marine life are being analyzed. The ministry of health has its own teams in the area to prevent the sale and consumption of fish caught in the river at points between Omai and Bartica.

Steps are also being taken to inform native Indians and other communities in the jungle of the disaster and the need to take precautionary measures -- but the authorities say it could take weeks to get through dense jungle.

President Jagan issued a radio appeal not to drink water from the Omai or Essequibo rivers as dangerous levels of cyanide continue to flow downriver.

Prime minister Sam Hinds has met with Omai mine executives with the crucial objective to stop or stem the flow of pollutant into the Omai river which discharges into the Essequibo. Emergency agencies in the area have been instructed to spare no efforts or resources to control the catastrophe.

The Guyanese president explained that the impoverished South American country needs international assistance to deal with the present disaster and his executive are in discussions with international organizations who have given them a favorable response. Guyana's government, overloaded with international debt and already in a state of bankruptcy, does not have the financial or technological means to cope with the cyanide flow, which has already reached the open waters of the Atlantic, potentially causing more damage to rich fishing waters of South America. Most of the cyanide is expected to evaporate, however.

A full parliamentary debate was scheduled to begin when the national assembly met in Georgetown, and opposition parties have been invited to join a national consensus on government measures. Among other things, consultations on an Environmental Act awaitying passage are to be speeded up and mechanisms for environmental protection established swiftly, Jagan said.

President Jagan admitted that many control functions are outside the government's present capacity due to their cost, and will take longer to implement than the present ecological protections.

"Equally, we must protect our rainforests from loggers who are cutting trees down in large-scale operations where we are also faced with massive costs to control what's happening within our territory," he said. He had declared the area a Disaster Zone, saying but it was impossible to give exact boundaries because the disaster is on such a large scale.

Concluding his rare radio broadcast, the president pledged to bring the Omai Gold Mine's Canadian owners to trial. "Omai had the responsibility to take environmental precautions and the government has the responsibility and the commitmehe Guyanese nation."

Guyana's 725,000 inhabitants, spread over 83,000 square miles of South American jungle, are only just beginning to understand the economic dimensions of the disaster, which not only affects the rainforest indians but the whole country's frail economy as well. Meanwhile, the Canadian owners said a design failure caused the catastrophe and have issued statements denying that any negligence on the part of the company.

"There was no disaster," Omai deputy general manager Claude Dumont insists. "The amount of sodium cyanide released into the Omai river was insignificant. When the government began yelling its head off about river pollution, you would have thought we were consciously tipping cyanide concentrate into the river -- it just isn't so.

"By the time the government inspection teams got [to the mine], there were no dead fish in sight -- what happened is peanuts. It was an unfortunate incident. We have to live with, but it doesn't have the dimensions the government are putting on it. And, anyway, Guyana doesn't have a workable environmental protection law or any monitoring mechanism. Nevertheless, I repeat, it was just peanuts."

On-site critics say the Guyanese government saw the international opportunity to earn "big bucks" from a gullible international community when, in fact, negotiations were underway with the government to allow the Omai mine to release 20 times the amount of cyanide tailings into the Essequibo six months earlier than ordinarily planned. The government owns five percent of the mine.

Joshua Ramsammy, a biologist for the private Guyana Monitoring and Conservation Organization, confirmed the mine's analysis and said Prime Minister Sam Hinds' government faces re-election next year and desperately needs money from the mine to cover crippling international debt obligations. The nation pays as much as 80 percent of its tax revenues to foreign lenders on $2.1 billion in foreign debt.

Omai Gold Mines Ltd., a company owned by Canadian-based Cambior, Inc., and the Golden Star Resources Ltd. operating subsidiary of Denver- based Invesco PLC, will be closed for six months as a result of the disaster, sources told the American Reporter news service. It could not be learned if the mine was insured for the disaster.

Invesco PLC runs a number of funds specialized in medium-risk companies in developing nations, and warn investors of the danger of losses. FMR Corp., better known as the Fidelity Funds, was listed with the Security and Exchange Commission as owner 165,000 shares of Golden Star before Sunday's disaster. The mine produced an estimated 88,000 ounces of gold in 1994.

I really must have this insane stuff here in this thread. Insane fundamentalism isn't far -- it's even here on this blog:

Quote mauiman58:FDR is much closer to the Antichrist than he is to Jesus Christ

I'm actually not a stalker, but this crazy nonsense needs to be fought on this blog. I watch that guy, he won't have much rest here.....

Banksters force Population of Greece into SLAVERY - Greek People to work for free and some even pay money back.

http://news.yahoo.com/greeks-might-pay-jobs-152039441.html