I can't tell how moderate you are but the "conservative Muslim" and the "conservative Christian", frame you use, is interesting, and tweaks my own frame or biases. i.e. a conservative Muslim may not be a radical, but a conservative Christian these days in not very telling. On the other hand, I don't mean to let your hope for WWIII go unadmonished unless, you are just being fascitious, and your conclusion a good pun. There. Now, I don't know if I have upheld what the Right expect of the Left, in admonishing perspectives equally(or confusing them), but it was a shot.
Correction: My first use of the word "constitution" should be "Declaration of Independence" to which my second use is intervening to our "American experiment" as even the Right might say. And in terms of words or meaning, the preamble is another intervener or context provider for what follows in word if not in deed, where our principles are laid out, much as Sharia Law (God's Law) is a guide, and then humanity interprets and fights its nature.
Sorry if I missed any reference to Pidgeons, in regard to Doveworld and Terry Jones, but you are falling into the frame of the fringe bigtime. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/imam-feisal-abdul-rauf/what-shariah-law-is-all-a_b_190825.html Sharia Law is no more laws, than the community center a Mosque. In fact in The Law vs. the law, capitalization is important and the crux of our confusion or clarity. "...Laws of Nature and of Nature's God..." is straight from the constitution. The constitution is an intervening document to our laws, but Sharia Law has another structure but is not the laws that nations institute or people even understand or can successfully fulfill. In fact capitalization if further prophetic or non profitable in regard to progress as the whole issue or lack of perspective is "political opportunism"(thanks to an FB friend).
These wackos get way too much coverage. It is almost giving them legitimacy in the minds of stupid people. Let's marginalize them and put them back into the recesses of their made up world.
Let's have conversations about reality and things that matter.
Do you want a better world for everyone? Here are the two practices that are necessary for a better world. Practice the Golden Rule, "Do onto others as you would want them to do onto you!!!" Practice the Eleventh Commandment, "Love one another as I have loved you!!!" - Jesus Christ at the Last Supper
Psychiatrist and Christian writer M. Scott Peck said there are 4 stages of spiritual belief people go through. Fundamentalism is only stage 2.
In stage 3, people become skeptical of religious dogma. In stage 4, people retain their skepticism, but also allow themselves to feel a sense of awe at the universe.
Part of me is actually hoping WWIII turns out to be between conservative Muslims and conservative Christians. That way, maybe the meek really will inherit the earth, or what's left of it.
Republicans would fight it on the grounds that it would make Social Security [even] more redistributive. I say let 'em try. It's high time Democrats called their bluff.
Hi Bernie, I wish someone would say that the FICA tax rate could go down for everyone if the cap is taken off. Wouldn't this be great and how could Republicans fight it? Keep up the great work! Al
Hopefully the spirit of reform runs deep enough to call into question what is perhaps Iceland's biggest suck-up to capitalist ideology: their proprietary DNA database. Ayn Rand accused the British people of trading freedom for free dentures, but the Icelandic people did it in the name of capitalism.
And back in March, Glenn Greenwald went into fantastic detail addressing Assange, Wikileaks, the Iceland factor, and the nature of the Corporate and Political elites arrayed against a global free press: "The war on WikiLeaks and why it matters" - www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/03/27/wikileaks
... and my mispellling of "facitious", a pun from above or below.
I can't tell how moderate you are but the "conservative Muslim" and the "conservative Christian", frame you use, is interesting, and tweaks my own frame or biases. i.e. a conservative Muslim may not be a radical, but a conservative Christian these days in not very telling. On the other hand, I don't mean to let your hope for WWIII go unadmonished unless, you are just being fascitious, and your conclusion a good pun. There. Now, I don't know if I have upheld what the Right expect of the Left, in admonishing perspectives equally(or confusing them), but it was a shot.
Correction: My first use of the word "constitution" should be "Declaration of Independence" to which my second use is intervening to our "American experiment" as even the Right might say. And in terms of words or meaning, the preamble is another intervener or context provider for what follows in word if not in deed, where our principles are laid out, much as Sharia Law (God's Law) is a guide, and then humanity interprets and fights its nature.
The American Way!!!
http://www.zcommunications.org/a-culture-of-violence-by-stephen-lendman
Re: So is stage 4 the final stage?
I don't know. What I do know is that many people get stuck at stage two, and never mature spiritually.
Sorry if I missed any reference to Pidgeons, in regard to Doveworld and Terry Jones, but you are falling into the frame of the fringe bigtime. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/imam-feisal-abdul-rauf/what-shariah-law-is-all-a_b_190825.html Sharia Law is no more laws, than the community center a Mosque. In fact in The Law vs. the law, capitalization is important and the crux of our confusion or clarity. "...Laws of Nature and of Nature's God..." is straight from the constitution. The constitution is an intervening document to our laws, but Sharia Law has another structure but is not the laws that nations institute or people even understand or can successfully fulfill. In fact capitalization if further prophetic or non profitable in regard to progress as the whole issue or lack of perspective is "political opportunism"(thanks to an FB friend).
I believe in the power of pray and in religion but I do not want to force it upon people. You can accept pray and religion or you can reject it.
Where are the commanders who run the Air Force Academy? Picking their nose? Religion is a personal experience and it should not be forced upon people.
These wackos get way too much coverage. It is almost giving them legitimacy in the minds of stupid people. Let's marginalize them and put them back into the recesses of their made up world.
Let's have conversations about reality and things that matter.
And how about a little civility.
Al
Do you want a better world for everyone? Here are the two practices that are necessary for a better world. Practice the Golden Rule, "Do onto others as you would want them to do onto you!!!" Practice the Eleventh Commandment, "Love one another as I have loved you!!!" - Jesus Christ at the Last Supper
So is stage 4 the final stage?
Re: Terry Jones' Fundamentalism
Psychiatrist and Christian writer M. Scott Peck said there are 4 stages of spiritual belief people go through. Fundamentalism is only stage 2.
In stage 3, people become skeptical of religious dogma. In stage 4, people retain their skepticism, but also allow themselves to feel a sense of awe at the universe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._Scott_Peck#The_four_stages
Islam will be the majority religion in the United States of Motal Sin by 2075. Believe it or not!!!
Terry Jones wants to send a "Very Clear Message", and he is, some people are foolish morons who act stupidly out of fear.
N
Part of me is actually hoping WWIII turns out to be between conservative Muslims and conservative Christians. That way, maybe the meek really will inherit the earth, or what's left of it.
True love!
http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2010/06/09/the-most-amazing-dogcat-relationship-ever.aspx
Re: Why are some Christians doing Osama's work for him?
Perhaps it is because they don't know the Christ?
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." -Mahatma Gandhi.
Nobody has the guts to bell the cat.
Re:
How come congress can investigate sports stars...
And not investigate Bush & Company.
Because it's old news (invading a sovereign nation under false pretensions) , the statute of our limitations (short memory) has run out.
Republicans would fight it on the grounds that it would make Social Security [even] more redistributive. I say let 'em try. It's high time Democrats called their bluff.
Hi Bernie, I wish someone would say that the FICA tax rate could go down for everyone if the cap is taken off. Wouldn't this be great and how could Republicans fight it? Keep up the great work! Al
I think it's clear who gets 'member of the day' this time around :)
Hopefully the spirit of reform runs deep enough to call into question what is perhaps Iceland's biggest suck-up to capitalist ideology: their proprietary DNA database. Ayn Rand accused the British people of trading freedom for free dentures, but the Icelandic people did it in the name of capitalism.
The Iceland bill was introduced in February... see "Iceland aims to become an offshore haven for journalists and leakers" (Harvard's Nieman Journalism Lab - www.niemanlab.org/2010/02/iceland-aims-to-become-an-offshore-haven-for-j... )
It passed into law in mid-June... "Iceland rewrites law to create haven for investigative reporting" (The Independent - www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/iceland-rewrites-law-to-create-h... )
And back in March, Glenn Greenwald went into fantastic detail addressing Assange, Wikileaks, the Iceland factor, and the nature of the Corporate and Political elites arrayed against a global free press: "The war on WikiLeaks and why it matters" - www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/03/27/wikileaks
This is encouraging. In crisis is opportunity. Let's not squander ours.