Thom, what that one caller was reciting is a very popular urban myth repeated by ontologically-challenged individuals. The location of the nursing home and cat(s) changes with each telling, but the original story of the supposedly "psychic cat" was debunked when it was tested and determined that it was actually attracted to the heating pads and heating blankets generally given to terminal patients (including nursing homes and hospices), and cuddled with them for the warmth, not out of any perceived divine intervention.
As a test, heating blankets were given to non-terminal patients, and the psychic cat spent an equal amount of time with them as with the non-terminal patients.
In the end, the original story was debunked, but the myth lives on as another Santa Claus story to which many non-rational people cling.
You are correct . . . Calcium is an Alkaline Earth Metal . . . Junior College chemistry was two farging decades ago . . . Sigh, the whole in my head keeps letting the rain flow through. I recommend using:
I believe in the power of prey far more than the power of prayer . . . . As a Jew, prayer is about praising the deity of my people (baruch) and setting one’s self upon the path of repentance (teshuva).
And I have no belief in religion and faith does not define me . . . As a Jew, it is what I do not what I believe; it is what I do and how I act and who I am. I am free to choose to feel belief and I am free to choose to feel spiritual, if I choose. As the practioner of a non-faith-based religion, these concepts do not matter to my relation to my religion. If I fail to act appropriately, I am labeled “Apostate” but remain a Jew.
But I do not want know that this “IT” thingy is that is being forced upon people. If you practice a faith-based religion, you can accept prayer and religion OR you can reject them AND that is peachy keen with me.
I recognize that the reading material I base my understanding of my religion on has been adapted liberally as part of the basis of a wide variety sects of several different religions. The understanding me and mine tend to grok from the texts tend to vary from the understandings folk of differing cultures and backgrounds derive for their variations of these works.
Floride (Halogen) readily forms an extremely strong chemical bonds with Calicum (Rare Earth Metal). This specific ionic (electrovalent) bond requires a significant amount of energy to force a separation of these two elements . . . Hence tougher bones and teeth.
Regarding the christianist who called in a bit ago talking like he was an authority on Sharia Law and Islam, could you ask these folks where they get their information? They always seem to speak with such unshakeable certainty that one would assume that they have taken classes, read in-depth texts, etc.
Regarding the christianist who called in a bit ago talking like he was an authority on Sharia Law and Islam, could you ask these folks where they get their information? They always seem to speak with such unshakeable certainty that one would assume that they have taken classes, read in-depth texts, etc.
It seems to me, If it were not for the Enlightenment, Christianity would still be in the Dark Ages.
Clay Jenkinson of "The Thomas Jefferson Hour" said that if the United States was founded 50 years earlier, or 50 years later, Our form of government would not have been/be sectarian.
@n8chz re: rhetoric That makes a tetrahedron. Have we reached the be all and end all of spin? I mean that there are four traditions of social control, which you have noted and what is next? http://www.augustreview.com/issues/religion/global_religion_for_global_governance_2005071210/Which must be seen in the context of meaning, progress, our evolution and wether we may be reborn as Tea Partiers, as I close with sarcasm or irony as sometimes it is the only way out.
The 'Seal of the Prophets' doctrine and Revelation 22 are basically two manifestations of the same phenomenon. They are sort of a 'no-tamper clause' in the meme complex. Authoritarians of all stripes place a high value on having the last word, the final say, case closed.
Thom: Organized religion is not the problem, following words or people is, not to mention free will. Following it, that is, not that I would change free will, but it is in what we do about and for it.
Thanks Dave A, (and maybe I have added some context on your perspective. And thanks n8chz, sorry to not be able to read and write at the same time... so thanks to rladlof. And the current caller the American Taliban.
As the pro-Israel rhetoric goes, 'it's a tough neighborhood.'
As for the evolution of Old Testament -> New Testament -> Q'uran,
It appears to me to be an adaptive evolution in the 'design' of meme complexes and their means of self-perpetuation as a means of social control. The Protestant Reformation is another major development.
I came to a realization about 6 years ago. After a lifetime of being on the higher end of the income scale, then humbled by fighting for pennies just to eat, (after a spinal injury, "pre-existing scam", losing everything, fighting against & then FOR Disability, and living now on less than $700/mo);
I'd MUCH rather be poor and happy, than wealthy and miserable.
They didn't teach this in my 8 years of post-high school college. It seems that every day, I see more and more evidence of this transformation in others as well. And maybe that's a good thing.
Speaking of typos, it may be a message to leave. I, it, religion,nation...there are difference, yet some think they choose, (no pun on chosen) and others think they are born into it. (this obtuse or sloppy comment: regards some discussion with a caller as to how religions are passed on, and might be pertinent to the confusion in interpretations and associations, and the seeming spin or unproductiveness of some dialogue and the limits of logic.
The Koran was heavily borrowed from the myths of the Old Testament as well as the New Testament. The Bible as well as the Koran command murder, plunder, rape, torture, slavery, ethnic cleansing and genocide.. If these things are wrong then we should reject these man made books.for what they are. Those who agrue that Christ was moral, why did he promise salvation to those who abandon their wives and children for him. (Matt. 19:29, Mark 10:29-30,Luke 18:29-30). Disciples must hate their their parents, siblings, wives and children (Lule14:26). Genodcide does not happen in the new testament, but they are prophesied. Flooding the earth or maybe burning it up.I guess god will destroy most of the unfaithful again. Same old B.S. Be very afraid. That in a nutshell is what all religion ios all about. I choose to live in the light of reason, free to love all mankind, regardless of their beliefs.
Of course I was being facetious. I wouldn't wish WWIII on anyone, although David Brin's notion of the 'Helvetiam Wars' does bring out a certain nonpacifist tendency in me...
Sorry: My comment "Sorry if I missed any" is prophetic in my not directing it to Thom but I believe I has sufficient context. And now n8chz (his name) gives me context to answer my own quiry/comment in "I can't tell how moderate you.." but I still might not be sure how you interpret Nietzsche but it explains the confusion or your skill. (not ill will intended)
Thom is questioning if he should continue to call himself religious, sounds like he's discovered the land-mine on Road to Damascus.
The "god-cat"
Thom, what that one caller was reciting is a very popular urban myth repeated by ontologically-challenged individuals. The location of the nursing home and cat(s) changes with each telling, but the original story of the supposedly "psychic cat" was debunked when it was tested and determined that it was actually attracted to the heating pads and heating blankets generally given to terminal patients (including nursing homes and hospices), and cuddled with them for the warmth, not out of any perceived divine intervention.
As a test, heating blankets were given to non-terminal patients, and the psychic cat spent an equal amount of time with them as with the non-terminal patients.
In the end, the original story was debunked, but the myth lives on as another Santa Claus story to which many non-rational people cling.
You are correct . . . Calcium is an Alkaline Earth Metal . . . Junior College chemistry was two farging decades ago . . . Sigh, the whole in my head keeps letting the rain flow through. I recommend using:
http://www.ptable.com/
Rather than relying on what is left of my mind and memory.
Francium is radioactive?!? Oh, no! I'd better get to the hospital! She told me it was mono!
Variations on Themes:
I believe in the power of prey far more than the power of prayer . . . . As a Jew, prayer is about praising the deity of my people (baruch) and setting one’s self upon the path of repentance (teshuva).
And I have no belief in religion and faith does not define me . . . As a Jew, it is what I do not what I believe; it is what I do and how I act and who I am. I am free to choose to feel belief and I am free to choose to feel spiritual, if I choose. As the practioner of a non-faith-based religion, these concepts do not matter to my relation to my religion. If I fail to act appropriately, I am labeled “Apostate” but remain a Jew.
But I do not want know that this “IT” thingy is that is being forced upon people. If you practice a faith-based religion, you can accept prayer and religion OR you can reject them AND that is peachy keen with me.
I recognize that the reading material I base my understanding of my religion on has been adapted liberally as part of the basis of a wide variety sects of several different religions. The understanding me and mine tend to grok from the texts tend to vary from the understandings folk of differing cultures and backgrounds derive for their variations of these works.
Calcium is an alkaline-earth metal, not a rare earth. The strongest ionic bond of all is Francium Fluoride. Too bad it's radioactive.
Floride (Halogen) readily forms an extremely strong chemical bonds with Calicum (Rare Earth Metal). This specific ionic (electrovalent) bond requires a significant amount of energy to force a separation of these two elements . . . Hence tougher bones and teeth.
Thom,
Regarding the christianist who called in a bit ago talking like he was an authority on Sharia Law and Islam, could you ask these folks where they get their information? They always seem to speak with such unshakeable certainty that one would assume that they have taken classes, read in-depth texts, etc.
Love your show and listen when I can. thanks!
lp
Thom,
Regarding the christianist who called in a bit ago talking like he was an authority on Sharia Law and Islam, could you ask these folks where they get their information? They always seem to speak with such unshakeable certainty that one would assume that they have taken classes, read in-depth texts, etc.
Love your show and listen when I can. thanks!
lp
Oh great, more NWO talk
It seems to me, If it were not for the Enlightenment, Christianity would still be in the Dark Ages.
Clay Jenkinson of "The Thomas Jefferson Hour" said that if the United States was founded 50 years earlier, or 50 years later, Our form of government would not have been/be sectarian.
@n8chz re: rhetoric That makes a tetrahedron. Have we reached the be all and end all of spin? I mean that there are four traditions of social control, which you have noted and what is next? http://www.augustreview.com/issues/religion/global_religion_for_global_governance_2005071210/Which must be seen in the context of meaning, progress, our evolution and wether we may be reborn as Tea Partiers, as I close with sarcasm or irony as sometimes it is the only way out.
The 'Seal of the Prophets' doctrine and Revelation 22 are basically two manifestations of the same phenomenon. They are sort of a 'no-tamper clause' in the meme complex. Authoritarians of all stripes place a high value on having the last word, the final say, case closed.
Thom: Organized religion is not the problem, following words or people is, not to mention free will. Following it, that is, not that I would change free will, but it is in what we do about and for it.
Thanks Dave A, (and maybe I have added some context on your perspective. And thanks n8chz, sorry to not be able to read and write at the same time... so thanks to rladlof. And the current caller the American Taliban.
As the pro-Israel rhetoric goes, 'it's a tough neighborhood.'
As for the evolution of Old Testament -> New Testament -> Q'uran,
It appears to me to be an adaptive evolution in the 'design' of meme complexes and their means of self-perpetuation as a means of social control. The Protestant Reformation is another major development.
Realization
I came to a realization about 6 years ago. After a lifetime of being on the higher end of the income scale, then humbled by fighting for pennies just to eat, (after a spinal injury, "pre-existing scam", losing everything, fighting against & then FOR Disability, and living now on less than $700/mo);
I'd MUCH rather be poor and happy, than wealthy and miserable.
They didn't teach this in my 8 years of post-high school college. It seems that every day, I see more and more evidence of this transformation in others as well. And maybe that's a good thing.
elaine/SoloPocono
Everyone have a WONDERFUL weekend!!
Re: The Abrahamic religions; Christianity,Islam & Judaism
There's just something about that ancient Middle Eastern Mindset.
Speaking of typos, it may be a message to leave. I, it, religion,nation...there are difference, yet some think they choose, (no pun on chosen) and others think they are born into it. (this obtuse or sloppy comment: regards some discussion with a caller as to how religions are passed on, and might be pertinent to the confusion in interpretations and associations, and the seeming spin or unproductiveness of some dialogue and the limits of logic.
The Koran was heavily borrowed from the myths of the Old Testament as well as the New Testament. The Bible as well as the Koran command murder, plunder, rape, torture, slavery, ethnic cleansing and genocide.. If these things are wrong then we should reject these man made books.for what they are. Those who agrue that Christ was moral, why did he promise salvation to those who abandon their wives and children for him. (Matt. 19:29, Mark 10:29-30,Luke 18:29-30). Disciples must hate their their parents, siblings, wives and children (Lule14:26). Genodcide does not happen in the new testament, but they are prophesied. Flooding the earth or maybe burning it up.I guess god will destroy most of the unfaithful again. Same old B.S. Be very afraid. That in a nutshell is what all religion ios all about. I choose to live in the light of reason, free to love all mankind, regardless of their beliefs.
Of course I was being facetious. I wouldn't wish WWIII on anyone, although David Brin's notion of the 'Helvetiam Wars' does bring out a certain nonpacifist tendency in me...
Sorry: My comment "Sorry if I missed any" is prophetic in my not directing it to Thom but I believe I has sufficient context. And now n8chz (his name) gives me context to answer my own quiry/comment in "I can't tell how moderate you.." but I still might not be sure how you interpret Nietzsche but it explains the confusion or your skill. (not ill will intended)
Islam is religion based solely on BELIEF PUBLICALY DECLARED BY DECLARER.
Muslims are not a nation.
Muslims are not a people.
Muslims are not a race.
Muslims are not a tribe.
There are no genetic Muslims . . . Never have been.
re: #18: isnt Sharia Law the bailiff on Judge Judy?
re:#19: the final stage is the 3:10 to Yuma.