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HERE IS A FACT! BELIEVE IT OR NOT!
Islam will be the majority religion in the United States of Hell by 2075. We will have over fifty percent of Americans being Muslims.
We must call it tyranny!
http://www.fff.org/comment/com1008d.asp
The enemy inside!
http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2010/08/most-terrifying-of-all-battles-when.html
Dear Thom Listeners,
August 17, 2010
I would like to share with you a Turner Classic Movie that I saw, August 16, 2010. The movie was released in 1940 but the plot commenced in 1933 with Hitler being named Chancellor of Germany. The movie’s title was “The Mortal Storm.” The setting was a small town near the Alps. It was an eerie movie because it reminded me of The George Bush II ascension to the throne in the United States of Mortal Sin on January 20, 2001. The brown shirted, jackboot wearing Third Reich was similar to the brown shirted, jackboot wearing Fourth Reich of the United States of Satan’s Disciples.
Adolph Hitler was admired and loved by the German people in 1933 as was George Warmonger Bush II in 2001. The Fourth Reich of America in 2001 was emulating the Third Reich of Germany in 1933. Yes, history does repeat itself.
Sincerely, Gerald – a Jesus liberal, a pacifist, a progressive, and a mushroom!
P.S. A mushroom is kept in the dark and fed crap by the United States of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Dear Thom,
August 17, 2010
I have some news to share with you. As you know from some of my comments, I was an undercover GOP operative who would go out on search and destroy missions to discombobulate and make dysfunctional Democratic incumbents and candidates for political appointments or political offices.
My friends deep inside the GOP operations have informed me that Barack H. Obama will not seek re-election in 2012. Sources say that Obama knows that he cannot win because the GOP electronic voting machines that leave no paper trail have been finely tuned to flip Democratic votes to Republican votes. Obama has also been informed that he has lost the Independent vote. Obama will announce his plans within the first three or four months of 2012.
Obama and his wife will take their fabulous retirement package from our federal government along with their $150 million dollar trust fund from campaign contributions with the interest from the trust fund and retire to Hawaii for the winter and Tinsley Park, Illinois for the summer where Obama and his wife will write books and make speaking tours around the country and the world. They will make another twenty or thirty million dollars per year. Obama around age sixty will retire again with a plan to teach a college law course.
Thom, I believe that you will be upset at this recent informational news but you must receive this information.
Sincerely, Gerald – a Jesus liberal, a pacifist, a progressive, and a mushroom!
P.S. American Democrats are Numb Nuts. A voter was asked his membership to a political party? His answer was, “I do not belong to any political party; I am a Democrat.”
Personally, children need to be informed of the difference between video war games and real wars. Most wars are not fought from a military base in North Las Vegas were drones are programmed to target certain areas where people are killed. If a person becomes insensitive to real wars, the person will have a real problem.
The right wing is so predictably hypocritical. Most of the 9/11 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia - are we at war with the Saudis? No, Bush II literally kissed up to them begging for cheaper/more oil. The right wingers never seem to be too concerned about real life, just what can by hyped up against Obama.
Hey I got another example of the American Nation being disrespectful. The shrine of democracy smack dab right in the middle of the Sacred Black Hills of the Lakota and other peoples. Those 4 heads remind us indigenous people everyday of reality. The oppression, colonization and genocide wrought on us by the U.S. is unprecedented. In light of this how can anyone complain about a Islamic Center that has a Mosque in it? The muslim people are citizens and fall under the protection of the constitution like any other. Those opposing this Islamic Center should walk for a time in the shoes of the Indigenous people of this continent.
would it make any difference if the proposed building were a mosque, Christian church or cathedral, Buddhist temple, a synagogue, or a shrine to Bacchus?
Another item which comes up frequently on Thom's program is the Supreme Court decision giving personhood to corporations and the expected tons of money which will be unleashed in the November election. It will take years to combat this with a constitutional amendment and it should be attempted. But, if the Democrats have any sense, while they still hold a majority and the White House, they could pass a law reinstituting the Fairness Doctrine for TV and radio broadcasting requiring the station selling time to the corporations to open their airwave to opposing views of the political ads they sell.
Further, the music on the program needs refreshment to something new.
17 or 19 "Crazies"? Is THAT who attacked us? If we don't stand up to the big lie, right here, right now, then it's game over, just stick out that arm and let's have that RFID then, and just say "Zieg Hiel" to the shadow government that overthrew our own on 9/11, say hello to total global domination. It's too bad what happened to those guys back at the beginning of the 21st Century, they were too afraid to stand up to the deceit, too afraid of how they looked in front of the others. It may have been 19 "patsies" on that day, but trust me, not a one of them ever flew a plane into a building. Read my blog on page 2 of August 12th, near the end, for details.
I've listened to the Friday and Saturday Obama statements over and over. I don't hear any backing away or caving in. I agree with Thom that it would be great if the Prez would explain that by supporting the "mosque" Americans are actually sticking a finger in the eye of al Qaeda. Unfortunately he hasn't made that case, as Thom and others have done quite well.
But Obama didn't offer direct support for the project on Friday night, he defended freedom of religion and the constitution. And he didn't change that stance on Saturday, when he was asked for clarification and gave it. It's not like he called in the press to make some competing statement. We shouldn't back away from criticizing the Prez when appropriate. But I don't think it's constructive to go after him on some (mis)interpretation of a nuance.
Thom's response is as predictable as the sunrise and as lame as Tiny Tim. The last time I checked, the president did not move an inch off of his assertion that the 1st Amendment protected Islam the same as any other religion.
Thom, quit aligning yourself with yahoos like Peter King.
As a progressive Christian, I'm just so sorry. So sorry for all of the fucked up rhetoric literally destroying our country, our culture, and the world around us. I am thankful for President Obama's compassion and eloquence in addressing complex issues. I too am disappointed in his "clarifying statements," but they certainly aren't surprising.
I don't have a problem criticizing our president, from the Left, for not being progressive enough. But I believe my job is to try to subvert the homogenous, pseudo-Christian filth spewing from the right, in hopes the principalities and powers of fundamentalist Christian nationalism can be brought down with their own language and paradigms: Jesus of Nazareth did not live and die for a bunch of fear-mongering, corporate-owned assholes.
Someone here posted a comment about Christianity going down. As a Christian, I sort of hope so. No religion maintains ideological or ethical purity once it has access to wealth, weapons, and the intoxication of social dominance.
It is more intriguing to ask why the mosque must be built so close to TWTC? When did we as Americans choose the rights of some over the humanity for others. The rationalization of religious freedom is comparable to owning a slave merely because it was your right. We as American Democrats are often willing to give away the rights of Americans just for the thrill of patting our own backs that we are open minded but really just self righteous pencil heads. We choose the rights of illegal immigrant over the well being of American citizens. Hey Thom, maybe you think we should get rid of "Meagan's Law" because it violates the rights of convicted child molesters??? In America there are words we do not say, things we do not display and actions we do not take, for no other reason than our unwillingness to hurt and offend. The argument is the same. The building of the mosque is not about religious freedom, it is about respecting human pain and not wanting to further inflict.
Thom, Dems better wake up. I am a Dem and am outraged by recent events that have led me to believe that the extreme left is tying to take over. Let us try a little common sense and a lot of compassion.
Lastly, get your facts right. Tim Mcveigh acted out of outrage over Wako, not as a Christian. He hoped to insight a revolt against a "tyrannical federal government."
Living on an Indian Reservation it is evident that there is very little regulation, almost 0 investment of federal dollars coming in. About 90% of it goes out to towns outside the reservation boundaries (needless to say towns like Rapid City SD love "our" money). We have 80% unemployment, mostly government and education jobs very little private sector, which I believe is because of the lack of regulation. Our money comes in gets turned maybe once if we are lucky and then flows out. The government system is a congressionally created system (Indian Reoganization Act of 1934). This is what a libertarian system looks like I believe or a free market capitalistic society when left alone comes to be. I would like to follow in Germany's footsteps here, going green and self sustainable will be great. Not having total local control makes it difficult, however not impossible. Thanks Mr. Hartmann for the success stories, it gives us hope here.
I am outraged by all of the outrage!
Nobody proposed a ban on building churches after Christians Timothy McVey, Terry Nichols, and Michael Fortier bombed the Federal Building in Oklahoma City. Nor was there a similar ban offered in Jasper Texas after the Christian right lynched alleged homosexual James Boyd Jr. What a bunch of self righteous hypocrites!
Wow, Mr. Hartmann. Listening to the show late on my Podcasts. Respectfully, I am not impressed with you telling those who disagree with us that they are not American.
I got a lot of love for ya, Mr. Hartmann, and you always maintaining the high ground is why. The position you took today is reminiscent of the conservative ultimatums demanded by conservatives during the Bush Administration.
Maybe you were cranky, maybe it was a bad night's rest. Maybe it was that pain in the butt, regular conservative caller, Michael from Long Beach, who broke the last straw. But "doing Bin Laden's work?"
C'mon, Mr. Hartmann, we better than that. And honestly, no one has taught me that better than you.
Frankly, I disagree greatly with these individuals just as you. Spent a lot of this weekend having a Facebook debate on this subject. But do you know where a majority of my arguments came from? Your "Founders Confront Judge Moore" article.
And that brilliant article should be the foundation of our debate, not challenging the opposition's patriotism.
With the utmost respect,
David Walker
To say that the President of the United States is the "head of the Muslim nation" is an insult to all who believe in Islam. That would be like saying that Saddam Hussain is the "head of the Christian Church."
Remember Wounded Knee? 300 mostly Lakota woman and children slaughtered/massacred and buried in a mass grave on what is now the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation (Home of the Oglala Lakota). Well, there is a Christian church 200 feet from the mass grave. Keep in mind the Lakota and other indigenous people were not Christians at the time, although many are now, the U.S. Government working with the quakers came up with a policy to dole out various indian reservations (indian agencies) to various sects of christianity for conversion and "salvations". This is how some are Episcopalian and other are Catholic etc... basically a lottery to win "heathen savage" souls for conversion Where is the outrage?
Thom, I get it.
You believe that, in the face of the "Professional Right" and its media machine, we have to extra vigilant and supply the public support for the progressive agenda we elected him for.
What your hearing people call in and say here is, how is the headline "Obama's base upset with him again over fill in the blank," helping? We can see how that is playing into the Rights agenda, and want to push back against the Professional Right by supporting him, and correctly identifying any obstructionist activities to those responsible. As opposed the false narrative; "Dem's have a majority & cant get anything done, & Obama isn't making congress do his bidding enough!"
If your trying to push back, push back with;
"Obama supports religious freedom, and cites constitutional freedom to practice religion in response to Conservative Cafeteria Constitutionalists critical of religious rights in America."
=^)
Would you beleive these is actually a shinto church two miles from Pearl Harbor.
http://www.e-shrine.org/contact.html
Check out the google map location:
http://maps.google.com/maps?rlz=1C1_____enUS361US361&q=1239+Olomea+StreetHonolulu,+HI+96817-3343+US&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=1239+Olomea+St,+Honolulu,+HI+96817&gl=us&ei=FpFpTKvAJ4GOOImJzbkF&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQ8gEwAA
leave newt and these nut jobs to ignore the FACTs. While the shrine was shutdown during the war it was restored in 1947 less than 2 years after the war.
It was heartening to hear Obama's initial remarks about the community center. What happened the second time around?
Obama waffles so much, I think he takes syrup showers (to caller Jose).
N
Thom,
Regarding the flap over our president's Cordoba statements, I always like to consider the obverse position, to see if it is defensable.
In this case, if president Obama had said effectively, 'The Muslim owners have a right to build anything they want on their commercially zoned property, but I will oppose it on grounds that it violates local, Christian sensibilities.'
JUST THINK of what a malestrom of invective that statement would elicit from the likes of Newt and Rep. Peter King! They would be all over him with accusations of bigotry, etc.
Fred
Maryland
Is that common statement "It took a wheelbarrow of money to buy a loaf of bread in Weimar Germany" even true? As I understand it, its a reference to a dark joke at the time, that a women went to a store with a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf a bread. When she got there she couldn't get the wheelbarrow through the door. She left the wheelbarrow and money outside to get the grocer. When she came out, much to her chagrin, the wheelbarrow had been stolen, but the money was left in pile.
It was basically pointing out the worthlessness of the German Mark at the time, but I wonder if there is actual truth to it. I mean why wouldn't you exchange the single Marks for larger denominations to make your transaction?
N
Every single argument against this Center is based on the ignorant, disrespectful, wrong-headed assertion that Islam and Al-Qaeda are the same thing.
Even those who simply say "maybe it wouldn't be wise" or "it would be disrespectful" or "even if they have the RIGHT to do it, it doesn't mean it should be done" -- these arguments also require the mental association of Islam and 9/11 in a way that punishes Islam as a whole for the action of a few crazy people who were Muslim.
Any level of intellectual thought on the topic leads to the same conclusions I've reached -- the people who are pushing this story are at war with intellect itself.